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hey just a quick question for the solas fans
do you think he could be bi? I was just thinking about the mages in our party and who to romance
(because I'm planning to do a Mage x Mage Romance has more impact I think)
As a mage I would love to talk with him about the Fade, Mage Templar War etc.
hey just a quick question for the solas fans
do you think he could be bi? I was just thinking about the mages in our party and who to romance
(because I'm planning to do a Mage x Mage Romance has more impact I think)
As a mage I would love to talk with him about the Fade, Mage Templar War etc.
Absolutely. In fact, I hope he is. I should say, there's absolutely nothing to suggest he wouldn't be. 
Celebration, but with consideration. Basically not going 'HAAAAAH. YOU DON'T GET THE ELF!' or anything like that. I saw enough of that in the Cassandra and Sera threads (and both of those ended up locked and cleaned).
I can honestly feel pretty confident when I say that - no matter what kind of romance he is - if he is announced to be a LI, we won't have to worry about reactions like that, not from this thread anyways.
Just popping in from the Varric thread to tell y'all that if Solas get announced, feel free to celebrate! Hell, I'll join you! We'll party hard no matter the outcome, deal?
We will have the best of parties, and it will be even grander if Varric gets an announcement too!
My opinion is still that they very likely wrote another bisexual romance because they're very adamant about making sure everyone gets 2 options and Iron Bull was planned gated until about a month ago. At the time they released his profile, they said they were hinting at gates with the "won't break" line, because they still didn't know if he would be fixed in time. I think they would have had another bisexual male lined up to fill the gates he would have had. If there was only a monosexual male LI, then one side of the equation would not get 2 options in all slots. They would only get Dorian/Cullen, respectively. Based on this, I'm pretty confident that there's another bisexual male option to be announced. Solas makes a lot of sense for that slot, in my opinion, so I think his chances of being a bi option are good.
I would be pretty disappointed that there was such an imbalance if the last two were male LIs. That means lesbians/straight guys only get 2 option and at least one demographic gets 4. I hope Vivienne is an option for equality's sake. Especially lesbians do not deserve that kind of distribution.
I think it is pretty likely he will be either a bisexual LI or not at all. The restriction on romancing him, if any, would be racial. Currently the LI distribution by race is rather uneven. With the exception of Iron Bull the only LIs for a male PC are human, whereas a female PC currently has access to all races (apart from dwarf) but only if they are bisexual. A straight male PC only has the option of human and of course this will not change no matter who the final LIs are. Currently a straight female PC has the option of human or qunari, which is a shame if you are not into big hunking dudes. If Solas is not a LI then this will be the first Dragon Age game where you can only romance an elf if you are a lesbian.
What if, by some magic, both Varric and Solas were LIs?
The party would be immense. Unstoppable, really.
We might just have to make a unified Solas and Varric party thread 
. Lots of Solas and Varric fics/fanarts to be passed around.
Agreed on the hoping that Solas is a bisexual LI. Though I could see them having him be straight, but not gay. That is, both the gay male options being mages would be crummy distribution. But I also have a feeling Dorian and Sera will be the only homosexual LI, I'm hoping that Cullen and Cassandra are the only heterosexual LI and that the last two will be bisexual without race-gating for distributions sake. However, I also imagine that will depend on WHO the LI are.
Solas - bi or straight
Vivienne - bi or straight
Varric - straight possibly race-gated to dwarves (but I have a sad that he won't be an LI at all given his personal history. I actually really respect that, but feel bad for his Varricmancers)
Blackwall - bi or straight
And the main reason I am considering straight instead of bi for Solas and Blackwall is just the fact that the only straight male announced is Cullen, an advisor. Basically I have no idea if distribution was considered from the pov of the characters sexualities or from the player's character's sexuality.
We might just have to make a unified Solas and Varric party thread
That would ROCK
hey just a quick question for the solas fans
do you think he could be bi? I was just thinking about the mages in our party and who to romance
(because I'm planning to do a Mage x Mage Romance has more impact I think)
As a mage I would love to talk with him about the Fade, Mage Templar War etc.
If somebody of remaining companions is more likely to be bi, it's Solas. Just based on his character blurb.
What if, by some magic, both Varric and Solas were LIs?
The party would be immense. Unstoppable, really.
So, we know Solas seems interested in theological and philosophical debate. It makes sense that he'd know about Andrastrianism. Most non-Dalish elves are Andrastrian. We know he has a strong opinion about the Qun, also, though, and clashes with Iron Bull about this. How do you think he learned about the Qunari? You wouldn't think there would be more than vague concepts of them in a small village in the Orlais/Ferelden area that we'll be going through. I doubt he'd see Qunari at any of his ruins as a memory. Do you think he read about Qunari? Do you think it's possible that his village was actually in Rivain or somewhere that has Qunari?
So, we know Solas seems interested in theological and philosophical debate. It makes sense that he'd know about Andrastrianism. Most non-Dalish elves are Andrastrian. We know he has a strong opinion about the Qun, also, though, and clashes with Iron Bull about this. How do you think he learned about the Qunari? You wouldn't think there would be more than vague concepts of them in a small village in the Orlais/Ferelden area that we'll be going through. I doubt he'd see Qunari at any of his ruins as a memory. Do you think he read about Qunari? Do you think it's possible that his village was actually in Rivain or somewhere that has Qunari?
It's possible that he's encountered them before. From what we can tell, Solas has traveled a lot. Nearly 30 years worth of traveling, I'd imagine, considering his age.
So, we know Solas seems interested in theological and philosophical debate. It makes sense that he'd know about Andrastrianism. Most non-Dalish elves are Andrastrian. We know he has a strong opinion about the Qun, also, though, and clashes with Iron Bull about this. How do you think he learned about the Qunari? You wouldn't think there would be more than vague concepts of them in a small village in the Orlais/Ferelden area that we'll be going through. I doubt he'd see Qunari at any of his ruins as a memory. Do you think he read about Qunari? Do you think it's possible that his village was actually in Rivain or somewhere that has Qunari?
I wonder if it's something to do with his childhood. I mean, his parents would have had their own bias's and those should have colored Solas's perspective. A theory I have is that his parents were elves born into the Qun, and they escaped somehow. Thus, they'd have no Andrastrian bias, and that would give Solas a reason to be negative towards the Qun.
Either that, or Solas was abandoned in the woods as a child. 
It's possible that he's encountered them before. From what we can tell, Solas has traveled a lot. Nearly 30 years worth of traveling, I'd imagine, considering his age.
Ah, that makes sense. I hadn't thought of it in the terms that he's just always wandering.
I wonder where we'll be likely to meet him.
I wonder if it's something to do with his childhood. I mean, his parents would have had their own bias's and those should have colored Solas's perspective. A theory I have is that his parents were elves born into the Qun, and they escaped somehow. Thus, they'd have no Andrastrian bias, and that would give Solas a reason to be negative towards the Qun.
Either that, or Solas was abandoned in the woods as a child.
That's also an interesting theory. We know there are elves in the Qun. I found it interesting that his relationship with Iron Bull is described as tense, while his relationship with Cassandra concerning religion is described as respectful. Iron Bull doesn't seem the type to bring up his religion a lot or try to push it on people, so I assume Solas must really not like the Qun. That's just how it seems to me.
So, we know Solas seems interested in theological and philosophical debate. It makes sense that he'd know about Andrastrianism. Most non-Dalish elves are Andrastrian. We know he has a strong opinion about the Qun, also, though, and clashes with Iron Bull about this. How do you think he learned about the Qunari? You wouldn't think there would be more than vague concepts of them in a small village in the Orlais/Ferelden area that we'll be going through. I doubt he'd see Qunari at any of his ruins as a memory. Do you think he read about Qunari? Do you think it's possible that his village was actually in Rivain or somewhere that has Qunari?
Given what little we know about him, at this moment, I'm going to assume he read and/or learns about it from talking with Iron Bull. In fact, maybe a lot of his banters have to do with philosophical and theological debate. (Kind of like Sebastians banters except less Chantry focused) Solas is very much a man about freedom of thought while the qun has a very rigid set of rules. I wouldn't say he'd dislike Iron Bull himself (or qunari or kossith or whatever term ya'll are using these days), just what he holds as tried and true.
edit: It also doesn't take long, when talking to someone, to determine if you're going to clash with their ideals about x,y, and z. I guess what I can think about in modern times are individuals determining if they like or dislike feminism based on what little, or lot, they know about it.
I would be pretty disappointed that there was such an imbalance if the last two were male LIs. That means lesbians/straight guys only get 2 option and at least one demographic gets 4. I hope Vivienne is an option for equality's sake. Especially lesbians do not deserve that kind of distribution.
I have clearly given this too much thought and talked more about romance fall out than I dreamed I would and I agree that from a gender distribution is makes sense.
Would it be more acceptable, if she isn't a romance (something I think is a possibility though unlikely) if one takes into account that the gender imbalance is there because two (and maybe originally three if John wasn't so awesome) of the male love interests are gated by race? Varric for dwarves, Cullen for human/elves both straight, Iron Bull originally for Qunari but now every one and pansexual. Solas as bi could be a way to ensure that every race had a choice, at least one. Thus the imbalance that David mentioned.
Again, pure speculation and unlikely but would that kind of reasoning/restriction make it hurt less if it turns out she isn't a romance? (I hope I made sense of this)
Oh and party if Solas is a LI but sad Varric isn't, happy if Varric is a LI but very sad Solas isn't, will hide in the corner quietly if neither.
Given what little we know about him, at this moment, I'm going to assume he read and/or learns about it from talking with Iron Bull. In fact, maybe a lot of his banters have to do with philosophical and theological debate. (Kind of like Sebastians banters except less Chantry focused) Solas is very much a man about freedom of thought while the qun has a very rigid set of rules. I wouldn't say he'd dislike Iron Bull himself (or qunari or kossith or whatever term ya'll are using these days), just what he holds as tried and true.
edit: It also doesn't take long, when talking to someone, to determine if you're going to clash with their ideals about x,y, and z. I guess what I can think about in modern times are individuals determining if they like or dislike feminism based on what little, or lot, they know about it.
It might also be an attitude thing... Iron Bull strikes me as the 'this is what I believe/this is what the Qun states, and if you don't like it, tough sh!t,' vs. Cassandra, who is more the type to listen and be curious and want to get at the truth of things, which Solas will respect, even if he doesn't necessarily agree with her views.
I can honestly feel pretty confident when I say that - no matter what kind of romance he is - if he is announced to be a LI, we won't have to worry about reactions like that, not from this thread anyways.
Yeah, I know. This theard is one of the most friendly places in the BSN.
I don't think Blackwall will be an LI cause well Sheryl Chee described him as her Father....why would she be writing an LI that makes her think of her Father?
I think what she said was that Mary Kirby kept telling her to stop making Blackwall like her (Mary's) dad, wasn't it? I thought that was the tweet, unless it was something else. It's not a great sign for him, though, yeah.
Back on the topic of romances, I think it's likely that Solas may be a gated bi LI if Vivienne is in, but I don't think it'll be dwarves like some people have guessed. This is the issue with IB that I mentioned. David Gaider has been very clear in multiple places that they are determined to give everyone two options. In the panel, they said they used the chart to make sure everyone would have options, even by race. (The example they used was, "we can't do this, it would totally screw gay male dwarves".) Since IB was planned gated and we can be pretty sure it was against at least dwarves due to rigging, I think we can assume the remaining male wouldn't be gated against dwarves. They needed someone to fill that slot if IB went through gated, as planned. I would assume his gates are likely Qunari in this case.
However, if Vivienne is not a romance, I think Solas will be an ungated bisexual male option and Varric will be a straight gated option with Cullen having the gate(s) as the second gated LI and sort of attempting to make up for the extra straight option. This scenario actually makes a lot of sense for all characters involved, although I do not like the imbalance it creates.
It might also be an attitude thing... Iron Bull strikes me as the 'this is what I believe/this is what the Qun states, and if you don't like it, tough sh!t,' vs. Cassandra, who is more the type to listen and be curious and want to get at the truth of things, which Solas will respect, even if he doesn't necessarily agree with her views.
Solas's interview says they "spar" over Qunari beliefs. The word usage makes me think that it's not a super heated, hateful debate but perhaps more passionate than the ones he has with Cassandra. I'm interested to see how their arguments unfold and whether it makes them dislike each other.
I have clearly given this too much thought and talked more about romance fall out than I dreamed I would and I agree that from a gender distribution is makes sense.
Would it be more acceptable, if she isn't a romance (something I think is a possibility though unlikely) if one takes into account that the gender imbalance is there because two (and maybe originally three if John wasn't so awesome) of the male love interests are gated by race? Varric for dwarves, Cullen for human/elves both straight, Iron Bull originally for Qunari but now every one and pansexual. Solas as bi could be a way to ensure that every race had a choice, at least one. Thus the imbalance that David mentioned.
Again, pure speculation and unlikely but would that kind of reasoning/restriction make it hurt less if it turns out she isn't a romance? (I hope I made sense of this)
Oh and party if Solas is a LI but sad Varric isn't, happy if Varric is a LI but very sad Solas isn't, will hide in the corner quietly if neither.
I was just making a post about that. Haha. I don't really like it, but I think it may happen.
Solas's interview says they "spar" over Qunari beliefs. The word usage makes me think that it's not a super heated, hateful debate but perhaps more passionate than the ones he has with Cassandra. I'm interested to see how their arguments unfold and whether it makes them dislike each other.
Yeah, I didn't necessarily mean it would be super hateful or anything... just that I could see IB being more 'this is how it is' vs. Cassandra's 'this is what I believe,' It could also be that Iron Bull is more the type to egg someone on, and Solas might even reply in kind... where they're sort of intentionally harassing or trolling one another (though I imagine Solas will be a lot more subtle about it). It'll be interesting to hear nevertheless, especially since they share a writer, and both strike me as intelligent despite having such opposing personalities and world views - even if Solas is the more obviously intellectual of the two.
As far as Solas being gated against Qunari... I'm just not seeing it, based on the info we have so far. i could maybe see Cullen (or even Dorian - there has been a war, after all) being gated against Qunari, and that being the imbalance. I know people on the threads have said it would be 'unfair' to race-gate a 'gender-gated' character as well, but as long as they provide a second option for straight female or gay male Qunari (*cough*Solas*cough*) the devs wouldn't necessarily view it as a problem.
It's definitely possible that the other gated option could be a previously gated character. There may be a slightly greater chance that the gated ones are the remaining options, but it's definitely never been confirmed. Cullen seems likely to be gated, to me, based on his negative opinions of other races in the past. Dorian might not like Qunari, as a Tevinter citizen.
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