The combination of fluffy Stoic beards, Solas's chrome dome, and Loghain's piercing gaze is enough temptation to ensnare most.
I am as to a lamb being lead to the slaughter
The combination of fluffy Stoic beards, Solas's chrome dome, and Loghain's piercing gaze is enough temptation to ensnare most.
I am as to a lamb being lead to the slaughter
I am as to a lamb being lead to the slaughter
If you join the Grim and Fatalistic side, you're not allowed to bag on me anymore for feels hellspiralling ![]()
So...anyone else find this REALLY disturbing...
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Why....just why....
If you join the Grim and Fatalistic side, you're not allowed to bag on me anymore for feels hellspiralling
Aysh... I can't miss out on that.
*matadors the Despair demons with Team Optimism banner*
Smut story for those who were interested. Titled No Bloodshed, and is me celebrating once again, my recent commission by RoyalRel, who did a fantastic job
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(If anyone else is interested) Fire and Ice:
https://www.fanficti.../1/Fire-and-Ice
(New) No Bloodshed:
https://www.fanficti...t/s/11038701/1/
If anyone else is interested but don't feel like reading much, here's a summary of what happens in the whole series of posts I'm planning:
https://www.fanficti...background-post
And finally, the commission
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http://ruxandralache...olonel-with-his
RoyalRel mentioned she listened to this while making the art:
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I listened to these while writing No Bloodshed:
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There, for those interested
Sorry to post off topic, but I had requests
There is an elf in it though
Feel free to breeze over if not interested in smut.

Sorry had to be done:
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So...anyone else find this REALLY disturbing...
spoilered for size
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Why....just why....

I definitely laughed longer than I should have at the last picture...
ToP!

I definitely laughed longer than I should have at the last picture...
Imagine if they had a baby. The child would have no hope of growing hair, ever.
Imagine if they had a baby. The child would have no hope of growing hair, ever.
Or instead of male/female-pattern baldness, it would be Fade-pattern baldness. ![]()
Hello heartbroken unicorns!
I meant to post half a hundred years ago but it's taken me a month of concerted effort to make it to page 1272, so ...
Somebody way back in the wild blue yonder posed a question as to Solas's MBTI type and I've spent way too much time mulling over it since then. So, a month too late, here's my suggestion for consideration.
I've seen him typed variously as INTJ, INTP, and INFJ. I'm going to (lengthily) support INTP.
So, for quick overview, here are the type functions of the these three proposed types:
INTJ: Ni/Te/Fi/Se (dominant perceiver)
INTP: Ti/Ne/Si/Fe (dominant judger)
INFJ: Ni/Fe/Ti/Se (dominant perceiver)
TMI re: functions: The J/P was not something used by Jung and was added by Meyers-Briggs. Being a J doesn't mean one is Judgy McJudgerson, just that one's dominant extroverted function prefers closure to possibilities. It refers to the first extroverted function in a stacking (not the first function!) and is therefore a little skewed when dealing with introverts. For example, an ENTJ is a dominant 'judger' because their lead extroverted function (also their first function, as is the case with all extroverts) is Te, which is a judging function (it prefers closure). In the case of an INTP, the P refers to their first extroverted function (Ne), which is a perceiving function (it prefers possibilities); however, they are dominant judgers because their leading function, Ti, is a judging function that prefers closure.
TMI: re: TMI: As their name suggests, extroverted functions are essentially the 'face' one shows to the world while introverted functions are the stuff that's happening internally. That's why introverts are introverts. Their primary stuff is going on in their heads and is not being directly shown to the outside world.
So much for the boring, convoluted stuff. Now Solas!
Solas and Ti
What is Ti?
Briefly, it's logical analysis and reasoning that delights in breaking things down to their essentials. It delights in careful speech, selecting words for maximum effectiveness in conveying meaning. It looks for inconsistencies and focuses on creating elegant systems. When there are problems, it examines them from multiple angles and finds solutions that maintain the essence of the system. When paired with Se, the result could be thought of as a skilled architect able to build elegant palaces or engineer a plan to keep the Tower of Pisa from collapsing. When paired with Ne, it creates an architect of ideas.
And this, I think, is Solas at his core. An architect of ideas.
* Solas is extremely particular about his words. And I mean beyond poetical eloquence. Consider the case of Solas 'lying' to Lavellan, betraying or otherwise hoodwinking her. I'd suggest that to Ti he did not do these things. He was very careful not to, sometimes putting more meaning in what was not said than what was. He uses words to wiggle out of situations that would either require complete truth (which he's not in a good position to offer) or an outright lie (which I don't think he wants to do, cf. his respect for Cassandra's straightforwardness).
Blackwall: It's a simple yes or no question!
Solas: Nothing about the fade is simple, especially not that.
Blackwall: Aha! So you do have experience in these matters!
Solas: I did not say that.
Cassandra: You must not have been far away.
Solas: I was not. I had come to hear of the Conclave, but I did not want to get close.
Cole: You're different, Solas. Sharper. You're in both places.
Solas: I visit the Fade regularly. Perhaps you are sensing traces of it.
In none of these examples (among many) is he lying. He's choosing his words very carefully so that he can mean what he says. Or say things without definitively saying something. Like with Blackwall, he doesn't say it isn't true, either, he just sidesteps the question. He tells Cassandra the truth, but does volunteer any further information or give away his true purpose. Hear what of the Conclave, Solas, dear? Likewise with Cole, he's telling the truth but not volunteering any further information. He comes close to a lie in the 'sensing traces' bit; surely Solas knows exactly why he feels that way to Cole, and it isn't likely Fade residue. But maybe there's a 5% possibility that that's the case, so he couches it in a 'perhaps' and thus is technically telling the truth. Note that this isn't the same as being completely open/volunteering information, but I think part of Solas's unhappiness lies in his perceived inability to do that in his current situation.
So, to Ti there is a world of difference between saying "I visit the Fade regularly. You are sensing traces of it." and "I visit the Fade regularly. Perhaps you are sensing traces of it." In other words, I don't think Solas cynically chose that phrasing to allow himself an out later on: "Ah, but I didn't lie!". Rather, he sees them as two completely different things, one true and the other not true. Let's artificially limit him to three options: 1) You are sensing traces of it. 2) Perhaps you are sensing traces of it. 3) I'm one of the Elvhen gods, so I feel weird. Of these, I suspect Solas's first inclination would be option 3, but for obvious reasons he can't say it. He then chooses option 2, because it is true, and rejects option 1 because it is false. I suppose this is why I find accusing Solas of lying to Lavellan a little harsh. He wasn't, technically. And to Ti, that 'technically' is of huge importance.
*Ti breaking things (especially ideas) down into their constituent parts or their foundations. Creating 'theories' that underpin everything. Contrast this to Te, the thinking function of the INTJ. Te likes plans, it organizes ideas and the physical world, it loves efficiency.
Cassandra: You also heard the voices at the Temple - is it so surprising that I listened to them?
Solas: Sadly, yes. Too few invested with authority posses the courage to alter their course.
Solas: They fear the appearance of weakness.
Solas has created an internal theory of power and authority that he reveals on occasion. Here is part of it. He abstracts; he is not talking about Cassandra's reactions, but of the reactions, methods, and reasoning of all persons in authority. Ti, as a judging function, has created its theory (that persons in authority will not alter course for fear of appearing weak), checks what he is observing against that theory and is surprised that the two don't line up. Solas is drawing a judgement against his ideal of authority and finding observed reality wanting; thus, he notes "sadly" that Cassandra is an exception to the rule.
Solas: The Wardens see themselves as the World's defense against the Blight, do they not?
Blackwall: Yes ... why do you sound so skeptical? Doesn't everyone know this?
Solas: When an Archdemon rises, they slay it. What will they do when all the Archdemons are slain?
Blackwall: Uh ... retire?
Solas: Without Archdemons there can be no Blights, is that the reasoning?
Blackwall: Right. Where are you going with this?
Solas: Nowhere. I hope they are correct.
Solas takes the concept of the Grey Wardens and breaks it down until he finds its fundamental tenent. He even says he's going "nowhere" with the idea, whereas results-oriented Te generally doesn't bother with trains to nowhere. Also note his bit of word trickery (again): "I hope they are correct." True, he probably hopes so. He doesn't say he thinks it likely, however. Or (as may be the case) that it will result in Epic Disaster Time. But he hopes it won't!
Iron Bull: So I'm not hoping it happens. There! You happy?
Solas: Happy? No, quite the opposite.
Iron Bull: Oh, come on. I said I didn't want us to invade you!
Solas: No. You said this world would be brighter if all thinking individuals were stripped of individuality.
Solas: You only lack the will to get more blood on your hands.
Solas: It is easier for people to believe they were tricked into making terrible decisions.
Solas: Competition brings passion, Cole, and passion lets people attach import to trivial things.
Solas: Even the lowliest peasant may find freedom in the safety of her thoughts.
Solas: ... Freedom is preferable to mindless obedience ...

Yeah, like Cass dies or something. Heh. Sorry Kill.
I like to see him suffer just as much as you do but it's still Cass... ![]()
Its going to be hard not to romance Cullen though...
Not that I would ever do such a thing, but you could flirt with both, start a relationship with Blackwall, run with it for as long as you like, dump him maybe in his personal quest (not sure where his lock in point is and you cannot break up with him in normal conversations) and then go speak to Cullen. Just a very hypothetical idea.
This is why I like you.
Oh my god, that London punk attitude and the prohibited sign in the back!
I wouldn't mind him follow me around applauding me for whatever I do (with the sign, if possible).
On a side not, this guy shows up in my courtyard. He is wearing some serious Ancient Elven armour. Does he appear for everyone? Have I gained myself an ancient elf? Did he instead steal the gear from Abelas when he wasn't looking? I'm confused.
In Skyhold? Where is he? When does he show up? Can I kill him and loot the armor?
Not sure if this was posted already today.. but Gareth David Lloyd did another one of those paid video messages things. http://www.celebvm.com/video/tjgzfN
I pity that poor man for having to sell his body. BioWare, you monster, can't you pay your voice actors enough to keep them off the streets?
How much is that anyway, if you want a video like that? The site does not tell and I am curious (serious question).
There's a Codex entry in Here Lies the Abyss, 'The Scholar', that implies that the Wardens were well aware that Dumat seemed immortal before they even formed the Order. ...
Thank you for clearing this up. And if you could answer my second big question I'd be much obliged. So: The OGS will jump into the body of Morrigan's baby because it is... what, youngest? Hence, strongest? If there were two Wardens, say Duncan and Alistair, would that not mean that the OGS jumps into Alistair, no matter who lands the killing blow? Why does this not work? Because the guiding Warden (I cannot remember his name!) said beforehand he would sacrifice himself but it might not come to that. So how exactly does the OGS decide where to go?
I'll probably need build help then. Since I normally play on the lower levels, I don't pay any attention to tactics or gear stats, beyond dps numbers.
I haven't used tactics at all so far, and I auto-level my companions. (I can already hear your *disgusted noise*).
I am playing another archer.
Well, in the first place it will mean not deciding your armor based on color. (I only make Siha look good, the others can look like rag bags.) Even if one metal or cloth looks bad it might still be better. And I tend to craft my armor after the most difficult foes I will meet. Say you have a problem with rage demons, invest in fire resistance. I actually only really craft and plan for dragons, but on the first run it's not bad to consider extra protections against others, too.
I have a very different opinion about (rogue and) warrior approaches than the Colonel, but you can go with his and I'll just fix it if his advice (as we must assume will happen) messes up your game.
So I will just add some general ideas:
You can beat any difficulty, at least if you start micromanaging. Use tactical camera, tell every character what to do, let time elapse a few seconds, then repeat. You play Xbox so it will be good. I love the tactical camera. And this way you control everything and it will work out fine. Maybe turn off friendly fire.
I strongly advise not to let a 2-handed warrior (Bull) run around alone. He tends to get himself dead easily. It's safer to give him a sword and shield instead. I only play 2-handed myself, the others are always shielded. (Or micromanage.)
If an enemy is too difficult for one character, move him out of range. If you have trouble securing weaker companions, let them run around the battlefield constantly while your warriors (or some mage out of sigh) attack the enemies. Not the nicest approach but will work. Only take care to switch roles in case the demons notice and just start focusing on another one.
You know you cannot map many skills, so consider upgrading passive skills first. They are usually very important.
And I don't use anything but health and regeneration potion. I would not waste one of my two slots on a bomb or such, they don't do enough damage to sacrifice a companion (my opinion). I played my first playthrough with bombs, but only take potions ever since.
Oh, and when you see you cannot win because everyone is dead and only Varric is left with minimum health... run.
Same here. I like DAI, but after three and a half playthroughs I'm getting a little burned out. I just fired up Neverwinter Nights and plan to replay the two expansions, Shadows of the Undertide and Hordes of the Underdark. (It occurred to me that I've never finished these games, despite starting many playthroughs over the years.) Hopefully spending some time away from DAI will rekindle my enthusiasm for it by the time the DLC come out.
Oh man I definitely have to play Neverwinter Nights. I'm starting with BG and make my way to that. Those are great games, they almost feel foreign to me because I'm used to these modern gaming mechanics which I love but they're pretty rough when you try to go back and play older games.
And yeah pretty much my plan. I think I need to step away from the game, play other things and when I come back there'll be some juicy DLC for us.
I've got Pokemon Sapphire to get started on....
I have a toooon of games I still have to play and Pokemon Sapphire is on the list. I love my 3DS.
If you made it through all that .... thank you. And I'm sorry.
Actually read all of it, but I'm out of likes. Very interesting analysis imo.
Solas cuts IB's argument down to its ultimate point, and one that IB doesn't refute. I'd also suggest that this bit of dialogue is one of the stronger pieces of evidence for not having a feeling function high on Solas's list. Solas gives IB's emotion-based hope little weighting, and even flips it on him. He's not pleased that IB gives a crap about the people who would die. I would argue that, in an abstract way, Solas doesn't give a great deal of craps about the people who would die. Solas is more interested in ideological purity, in this case that of individual freedom. I think Solas's thinking lies along these lines: If IB's ideal of the Qun is correct but the means of achieving the ideal is not something IB can accept, then IB needs to reconsider his ideal. His phrasing is troubling, though. It suggests that Bull's lack of will to kill to achieve the ideal is a problem to Solas's mind. Perhaps meaning that Solas would be quite willing to wander into mass murder territory to achieve his ideal state of freedom (and the irony of that is delicious). Not that he wouldn't feel bad, but according to Solas in this dialogue, if I'm reading it right, his feeling bad about it is ultimately irrelevant and shouldn't stop him.
Solas... has a dangerous edge to him, hasn't he? It's his drive, his passion, his idealism and desire to do things "for the greater good". I'm an idealist myself (INFP type, "raging perfectionist" according to tvtropes), so I can understand how it goes. Sort of. You start off by thinking about people. You try to help them in a way that does not put anyone in danger. But it's not enough. It's never enough. Bad things still happen all around you. And then a moment comes when your emotions take over and you think: "Screw this! I'm going to change everything!" In this moment, ironically, you are not really thinking about people; the idea of "greater good" becomes separate and more important than anything else. You basically become detached from reality, with a pretty picture in your head obscuring everything. And if no one brings you down from the clouds, you'll go on like this. But the real world will never be as pretty as the picture in your head. Whatever you do, it'll never be enough. And you either learn to accept the world, imperfect as it is - or you keep trying, never quite getting there.
The way I see it, in the Tower card, it's basically his negative emotions - guilt, bitterness, etc. - consuming him to the point where his only reason to live on is his decision to "set things right" no matter what. But he knows the cost, and he's miserable.
<Awed silence.>
You. I like you.
(I need a drill sergeant unicorn picture here.)
So, yeah...I think that works for Solas's personality type.
I especially loved the analysis of Bull and Solas's conversation.
And don't apologize for sharing Zah Knowledge.
We stone people for that here. Don't get started on what Madrar would do to you if you held back. ![]()
Siha: I think it's because the Archdemon has a small amount of control over where its soul goes. It has to be nearbyish, apparently. There's a tainted Grey Warden right there on its face stabbing it in the eye, and there's a small, tainted, largely unformed thing over there. *shrug* I would guess that it goes for something close to an empty vessel like the darkspawn, but then why wouldn't it just jump to one of the nearby darkspawn? Does it have to be the Old God baby-daddy to strike the killing blow? I don't think so. No, no, you can leave Alistair behind as a Female Warden. So what in blazes is going on there?
I'm not quite burned out on Inquisition myself. It's not the feverish need I had the first month or so, but I still look forward to wandering the Emerald Graves with Solas and desperately fleeing the horde of giants on my beloved Deth-Nug.
Um...I play a lot of games and tend to jump quickly between them in no particular order. So:
Rome II: Total War: Does this surprise anyone?
Europa Universalis IV: My daily rage-quits over France's doomy stacks of doom aside, I enjoy struggling to survive in the Early Modern Period.
Currently I'm trying to have Brandenburg>Prussia>Germany to test out the new Art of War expansion, because it includes the Thirty Years' War. And I apparently hate myself.
Crusader Kings II: I will have vengeance on the Pope, in this life or the next. William the Conqueror didn't deserve excommunication, dude! Why should the Pope have a say in who becomes a bishop? That's clearly the king's job!
Shadows of Mordor: A very good action game. It's bizarrely entertaining to coax a scrawny, weak, cowardly Uruk to the top of the food chain. It's even better when you stumble across the most badass Uruk of them all, and he's at the bottom of it for some inexplicable reason. Then it's less coaxing and more pointing out who he should overthrow next.
Baldur's Gate: The Enhanced Edition, since I didn't know about the existence of GOG.com at the time. I, um...I really, really suck. But I enjoy it. It's just that the, er, kobolds of Nashkel are a little too much for me at the moment...
Knights of the Old Republic: Nostalgia, lightsabers, HK-47, and the Ebon Hawk. It's interesting going back to see how my opinions have changed. I used to swing between mild dislike and mild affection for Carth. Now he's one of my favorites.
Star Wars: Empire at War: I just rediscovered this disc in my pile. The space battles are glorious. I've been told that making nothing but Star Destroyers isn't necessarily the best idea, but it's mostly worked so far.
The land battles are occasionally...questionable.
I am also currently rocking back in forth in excitement over The Witcher 3: The Wild Hunt and Attila: Total War. I will of course be playing as the Romans/Ostrogoths, but I'm tempted to try out the Huns and set out destroy every empire and call the savefile ColonelKillabee in his honor.
You have a fantastic taste in games and we have quite a bit in common. This list is nearly perfect for me. I spent a good chunk of my life before DA:I playing Crusader Kings II. I can't recommend it enough though I feel as if I haven't put in the time I wish into it. Knights of the Old Republic is another one I'd like to replay. The nostalgia is strong in this one. I'm also playing the Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition and it's pretty cool. It runs a lot better I think that when I tried to work it out with an older BG copy I had.
Emerald Graves is still my favorite map in Inquisition I think. I never know when I'm gonna wrestle with a bear or play with twin giants. lol
Does it have to be the Old God baby-daddy to strike the killing blow? I don't think so. No, no, you can leave Alistair behind as a Female Warden. So what in blazes is going on there?
Taken from the Origins Wiki:
"She claims to know a blood ritual that will allow the Warden who kills the archdemon to avoid his/her fate. This dark ritual will ensure that the essence of the archdemon is lured into an unborn child bearing the taint rather than the Grey Warden slaying the archdemon. Morrigan believes that the child will survive and possess the soul of an Old God, freed of its darkspawn corruption. This ritual, Morrigan claims, is the reason Flemeth rescued the Wardens and the reason Morrigan had to accompany them. Flemeth's reasons for this are unknown."
Not sure how, but the action of luring the soul is what ensures the rituals success.
They only need it at first, until they can learn to draw sustenance from the Fade. Solas might have had friends or followers at first, or he was beyond that, the orb helping to sustain him. Maybe the reason he was so weak when he woke up is that he didn't have slaves like others. Not sure.Hm... if that's true, who kept Solas alive for the past thousand years? (Please don't say Felassan and his ancestors)
Siha: I think it's because the Archdemon has a small amount of control over where its soul goes. It has to be nearbyish, apparently. There's a tainted Grey Warden right there on its face stabbing it in the eye, and there's a small, tainted, largely unformed thing over there. *shrug* I would guess that it goes for something close to an empty vessel like the darkspawn, but then why wouldn't it just jump to one of the nearby darkspawn? Does it have to be the Old God baby-daddy to strike the killing blow? I don't think so. No, no, you can leave Alistair behind as a Female Warden. So what in blazes is going on there?
So do I understand correctly that you... don't know either?
Btw, while we're talking, I am curious about your Architect/Corypheus fascination. Would you care to explain?
Taken from the Origins Wiki:
"She claims to know a blood ritual that will allow the Warden who kills the archdemon to avoid his/her fate. This dark ritual will ensure that the essence of the archdemon is lured into an unborn child bearing the taint rather than the Grey Warden slaying the archdemon. Morrigan believes that the child will survive and possess the soul of an Old God, freed of its darkspawn corruption. This ritual, Morrigan claims, is the reason Flemeth rescued the Wardens and the reason Morrigan had to accompany them. Flemeth's reasons for this are unknown."
Not sure how, but the action of luring the soul is what ensures the rituals success.
I accept the child. I assume it is just stronger, potentially will have a longer lifespan for being born that way. But I don't understand the archdemon's choice in case there's only Wardens and no child. I'd still go for the one who's been tainted for a shorter time...
I actually agree with this. I've written about this many-many pages back; will try to find it.Aand here it is:Also:...great, now I'm at the point when I'm quoting myself instead of writing new posts
Yes! Really, though, you said it perfectly the first time, so why try to change it? ![]()
I think you hit the nail on the head (what I was dancing around and never quite managing to say). He's basically detached from reality. It clicks in on occasion, when the suffering is staring him right in the face, usually literally. Like when he approves of helping the folks of the Hinterlands (who are staring him in the face). Yep, yep. It's become all about the ideal for him and I do think he'd be willing to go full-on wicked in order to accomplish it. I think he does notice, and it does cause him pain (like leaving Lavellan), but he's almost masochistically relishing it - like it's his penance for having screwed up.
Also! Another INFP over here! Does Solas attract them or something? Sneaky little beggar.
So do I understand correctly that you... don't know either?
Btw, while we're talking, I am curious about your Architect/Corypheus fascination. Would you care to explain?
I accept the child. I assume it is just stronger, potentially will have a longer lifespan for being born that way. But I don't understand the archdemon's choice in case there's only Wardens and no child. I'd still go for the one who's been tainted for a shorter time...
I bolded for context.
But what I got from what Morrigan tells you is that the ritual will somehow force the archdemon's soul into the child. Whether it is tricking it into thinking it chooses the child or if it really goes against the archdemon's will to rather jump into the nearest darkspawn it doesn't say.
Also if there is no child, I have no idea. Never gone that route.
On a side not, this guy shows up in my courtyard. He is wearing some serious Ancient Elven armour. Does he appear for everyone? Have I gained myself an ancient elf? Did he instead steal the gear from Abelas when he wasn't looking? I'm confused.
Tuvok!
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I think I need to read up more on M&B personality types to get this completely, but this is great, and I'd love to read your analysis on other characters if you have them