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[Meer]

It belongs us in a Solavellan Dating Sim and you just gave us one of the bad endings. Right after that image, the credit scene rolls and you have to try again to get a better ending LOL

Does Gareth David-Lloyd get an image song to perform during these endings? Because I could get behind that. Some of the ones in DRAMAtical Murder were awesome. 

[TanisLave]

I know this has been mentioned before, but It's really weird how many comments/the underlying theme of DA:I seems to be challenging your interpretation of godhood/how everything in the main-story line seems to point at how *large* your inquisitor is becoming. And Corphygish's comment about who'd make a better god at the end.

 

Just thinking on that since I finished my third playthrough. Really hope we get to play as the Inky again sometime. 

[panamakira]

Does Gareth David-Lloyd get an image song to perform during these endings? Because I could get behind that. Some of the ones in DRAMAtical Murder were awesome. 

OMG yes, GDL totally gets an awesome secret CGI with his music in the background.

 

Talking about DMMD, I saw the most horrific ending with Clear the other day. Traumatized doesn't even cover it. You never know what you're gonna get with Nitro+CHiRAL lol

 

Sometimes I feel like Bioware is gonna give us one of those super bad endings, and my heart bleeds for Lavellan (Aoba) lol

[nikki-tikki]

On a brighter note, Maria13 wrote a very sweet and hot NSFW Solavellan story.

 

Yes the cakes!! Such a cute beginning

[Meer]

OMG yes, GDL totally gets an awesome secret CGI with his music in the background.

 

Talking about DMMD, I saw the most horrific ending with Clear the other day. Traumatized doesn't even cover it. You never know what you're gonna get with Nitro+CHiRAL lol

 

Sometimes I feel like Bioware is gonna give us one of those super bad endings, and my heart bleeds for Lavellan (Aoba) lol

You speak the truth. The first time I played, I got Mink's bad ending. That was...yes, traumatizing. It gave me mortified-hiccups, haha.
Let's just be glad that Bioware aren't quite that evil; they offer a more wholesome heartbreak.  

[panamakira]

You speak the truth. The first time I played, I got Mink's bad ending. That was...yes, traumatizing. It gave me mortified-hiccups, haha.
Let's just be glad that Bioware aren't quite that evil; they offer a more wholesome heartbreak.  

Oh God Mink. I have played all routes but with good endings. Just recently, I have started getting the bad endings to finally see them all and it's just....

But I keep going back for more, lol so I clearly have a problem.

 

I don't think Bioware would be that cruel but I'd like to believe my training with Nitro+CHiRAL games will prepare me for the worst with Solas.

Surprisingly, I'm still team Positive, I just have a grim and fatalistic way of showing it. 

 

My side benefit: Solas.

[NightSymphony]

http://whalemale.dev...ellan-513965343

[Siha]

My contribution to this holiday, written while waiting for my hair dye to set:

 
I promised and I will stick to my word:
 
 
Vhenan,

It has been only a few weeks since that day that I first laid eyes on you on the Solas discussion thread. But the memory is still fresh in my mind and every time I relive the moment, a small smile starts to spread out along my lips.
Remembering your fanfiction; the skillful way you beat the other girls to the bride's bouquet* tie words to sentences; all memories only leading me back to you, ma sa'lath.

I know I should probably be telling you all these deep, heartfelt feelings of mine face to face, over a romantic dinner, but here I am - in the written word.
A part of me just felt I would rather get it out right, in your eyes, just once, rather than appear a bumbling mess of nerves when all my thoughts were seemingly locked in my heart and mind. Maker's breath, I am sure with you in front of me for such a baring of my soul, that my nerves would have gotten the better of me and I wouldn't have been able to say even one sentence of all the feelings that I feel for you.

Will you marry me, vhenan'ara?

In love now and always,
Siha
 
 
 
*Who posted that picture of Frank N. Furter? How is one to concentrate!
 
(Text written only by me alone. And maybe by staring at this page - without reading any of it!)

[Meer]

I don't think Bioware would be that cruel but I'd like to believe my training with Nitro+CHiRAL games will prepare me for the worst with Solas.

Surprisingly, I'm still team Positive, I just have a grim and fatalistic way of showing it. 

 

My side benefit: Solas.

Nothing will prepare one for bad endings more than a Japanese visual novel. It's been several years since I first played Animamundi, for instance, and I'm still not over some of those bad endings. And there were many,oh yes. My favorites are the ones that force you to see the bad endings first.   
...Team Grim and Fatalistic is terribly appealing though. Just look at the name, it's awesome.

[Sister Squish]

Dragon Age is helping me so much with my studies \o/

 

Hegel and The Fade

Spoiler

  In the aftermath of the American and French Revolutions, among the philosophical battles largely encompassing the argument between relativism and absolutism, Hegel published his Phenomenology of Spirit. In this work he outlines his "theory of truth" in an attempt to understand the world from a larger, even "divine" point of view in reference to "true" knowledge. Hegel begins by rejecting key metaphors which had ruled philosophy for centuries. Specifically, those referring to the idea that "truth" was something static and objective and separate from our individual consciousness. 

 

"It is a natural assumption in philosophy, before we start to deal with its proper subject matter... the actual cognition of what truly is, one must first of all come to an understanding about cognition, which is regarded either as the instrument to get hold of the Absolute, or as the medium through which one discovers it. A certain uneasiness seems justified - partly because there are different types of cognition, and one of them might be more appropriate than another for the attainment of this goal, so that we could made a bad choice of means; and partly because cognition is a faculty of a definite kind of scope, and thus, without a more precise definition of its nature, we might grasp clouds of error instead of the heaven of truth."

 

  The "correspondence" metaphors he refers to which I find directly relates to the subject of the DA Fade is his deliberate distancing from the division between: 

a. the world in itself (the "Absolute") 

b. our knowledge (beliefs, "utterances", cognitive processes) 

  And between these two realms he refers to "some distorting filter [our senses] or that which is actively altered by the machinery of our understanding". 

 

Ding ding, seems to correspond with this World of Thedas codex on the Veil: 

The Veil is an Idea.

  I detest this notion that the Veil is some manner of invisible "curtain" that seperates the world of the living from the world of the spirits (whether it be called the Fade or the Beyond is a matter of racial politics I refuge to indulge in at the moment). There is no "this side" and "that side" when it comes to the Veil. One cannot think of it as a physical thing or a barrier or even a "shimmering wall of holy light" (thank you very much for that image, Your Perfection). 

  Think of the Veil instead, as opening one's eyes. 

Before you opened them, you saw our world as you see it now: static, solid, unchanging. Now that they are open, you see our world as the spirits see it: chaotic, ever changing, a realm where the imagined and the remembered have as much substance as that which is real - more, in fact. A spirit sees everything as defined by will and memory, and this is why they are so very lost when they cross the Veil. In our world, imagination has no substance. Objects exist independently of how we remember them or what emotions we associate with them. Mages alone possess the power to change the world with their minds, and perhaps this forms the nature of a demon's attraction to them - who can say? 

  Regardless, the act of passing through the Veil is much more about changing one's perceptions than a physical transition. The Veil is an idea, it is the act of transition itself, and it is only the fact that both living beings and spirits find the transition difficult that gives the Veil any credence as a physical barrier at all. 

 - From A Dissertation on the Fade as a Physical Manifestation, by Mareno, senior enchanter of the Minrathous Circle of Magi, 6:55 Steel

 

 Note that Hegel does not suggest the moving of one absolute "truth" to another "truth" - he attempts to change the way we think about "truth" by challenging how we already think of it - this transition between ideas - is the moving through the Veil. 

 

  This sounds absurd when applied to the real world so far, but stay with me, I'll try to explain. Hegel provides a selection of examples, from the most primitive sensory perception to the most sophisticated views of the Enlightenment, evidencing how we may all think differently - various "forms" of consciousness - and how one person's reality is not that of the next's. He likens this to seeing a beam of light, refracted into a spectrum through a crystal. 

 

  This "beam of light" truth, he says, is not found outside of ourselves. Nor is not found inside our individual self-enclosed "self" - which he refers to as an "instrument" which one can attempt to capture the truth with but will inevitably mold and distort it's shape in doing so. Hegel suggests the truth "is a whole" - the unity of all our consciousnesses . Reality, in this way, is a product of the mind - not individual minds, but a cosmic mind.  

 

SOUNDS LIKE THE FADE RIGHT

 

  A variety of forms of consciousness does not by itself mean there is no "correct way" of knowing. Forms of consciousness, Hegel suggests, can emerge by way of improvement or opposition. Take for example, a subject like physics. Long-accepted theories regarding the way the world works are often challenged - and through this challenging, improvements are made (or even overturned). Hegel argues that this is a necessary sense that these theories are all moving toward some final end - leading up to something - a viewpoint that is not relative to any particular viewpoint or perspective. This is the standpoint he calls "absolute knowing". 

 

  This idea that various forms of consciousness emerge one from another and lead us eventually to the absolute is perhaps Hegel's most exciting philosophical contribution to Western thinking. For the first time philosophy and humanity are provided with a historical perspective. Knowledge is not about what is apart from our knowledge of it. Truth develops as the human mind develops. Truth is not about the static being, but about the becoming. 

 

  This applies to DA in several ways: 

1> we are seeing this "cosmic mind" in the form of the Fade - unlikely to be in a state of "absolute knowing" with how demon-infested it currently is... but this gives the races of Thedas goals to work towards; to better themselves for the sake of all - past, present and future. Optimism \o/

2> Importance of historical events in shaping the nature of the Fade e.g. the widely held belief that the simple contact with mortality in humans was enough to produce that idea in the Fade and in turn affect the Elvhen (drawing from that collected consciousness of the Fade). 

3> I believe the idea of conflict shaping improvement supports madrars eternal Triad theory and that of Solas' (or an equivalent figure) role in history

 

  Hegel suggests a holistic world view in which consciousness and the world are not separate but inseparably integrated. There is no world, no reality in itself, apart from consciousness. One may take this view of our world (other philosophers argue that we cannot in fact be certain of anything at all apart from the one certainty that we are "thinking things"), but in DA, even if we agree that there is no veil and that our self-enclosed consciousness moves between a "physical" body and a "Fade" body simply when we alter our perceptions, we still must make the distinction between the two ideas. 

 

  So I believe we must refute Hegel's suggestion that both world and consciousness are integrated. UNLESS this is precisely what Solas is referring to when he speaks of a time when the Fade and the Physical world were united... which may lead us to speculate as to whether it was only the Veil which is a manufactured construct - and not the entire Fade itself? 

 

  At first, Solas may seem like a contradiction when reflecting on all of this. A synthesizing of all consciousness? But doesn't he value individuality and freedom above all else? Yet the value of these things is not lost here. It is more important for those with freedom to think critically, to use individual reasoning, for growth and change, to come to their own conclusions on knowledge in order to improve the whole. And yet, the world itself can develop and change so that virtues and truths of one generation may well become inadequate to the next. 

 

  It is not relativism in the crude sense (meaning, it is not that a truth can only be true for a particular person). "Absolute knowledge" in this theory is not subjective - it can theoretically be found, just... not in the minds of individuals. 

 

  Arguably the most important of Hegel's notions is that of his all-embracing overview of "Spirit" - a concept which embraces all of humanity, all of history, and all of nature as well. Freedom, he says, is the purpose developing through history and humanity. 

  [Solas Approves]. 

From Hegel's Reason in History 

  The question of the means whereby Freedom develops itself into a world leads us directly to the phenomenon of history. Although Freedom as such is primarily an internal idea, the means it uses are the external phenomena which in history present themselves directly before our eyes. The first glance at history convinces us that the actions of men spring from their needs, their passions, their interests, their characters, and their talents. Indeed, it appears as if in this drama of activities these needs, passions and interests are the sole springs of action and the main efficient cause. It is true that this drama involves also universal purposes, benevolence, or noble patriotism. But such virtues and aims are insignificant on the broad canvas of history. We may, perhaps, see the ideal of Reason actualized in those who adopt such aims and in the spheres of their influence; but their number is small in proportion to the mass of the human race and their influence accordingly limited. Passions, private aims, and the satisfaction of selfish desires are, on the contrary, tremendous springs of action. Their power lies in the fact that they respect none of the limitations which law and morality would impose on them; and that these natural impulses are closer to the core of human nature than the artificial and troublesome discipline that tends toward order, self-restraint, law and morality. 

  When we contemplate this display of passions and the consequences of their violence, the unreason which is associated not only with them, but even - rather we might say especially - with good designs and righteous aims; when we see arising therefrom evil, the vice, the ruin that has befallen the most flourishing kingdoms which the mind of man ever created, we can hardly avoid being filled with sorrow at this universal taint of corruption. And since this decay is not the work of mere nature, but of human will, our reflections may well lead us to a moral sadness, a revolt of good will (spirit) - if indeed it has a place within us...

[more gloomy talk]

   ...From here one usually proceeds to the starting point of our investigation: the events which make up this picture of gloomy emotion and thoughtful reflection are only the means for realizing the essential destiny, the absolute and final purpose, or, what amounts to the same thing, the true result of world history.

 

  This all sounds a bit familiar. This next, final bit is Hegel bringing together his ideas of Spirit, cosmic consciousness, and purpose - reminding me again of madrar's Soul and Fade Shadow theory: 

....abstract nature of what we call principle, final purpose, destiny, or the nature and concept of Spirit. A principle, a law is something implicit, which as such, however true in itself, is not completely real (actual). Purposes, principles and the like, are at first in our thoughts, our inner intention. They are not yet in reality. That which is in itself is a possibility, a faculty. It has not yet emerged out of its implicitness into existence. A second element must be added for it to become reality, namely, activity, actualization. The principle of this is the will, man's activity in general. It is only through this activity that the concept and its implicit ("being-in-themselves") determinations can be realised, actualised; for of themselves they have no immediate efficacy.   The activity which puts them in operation and in existence is the need, the instinct, the inclination, and passion of man. When I have an idea I am greatly interested in transforming it into action, into actuality. In its realisation through my participation I want to find my own satisfaction. A purpose for which I shall be active must in some way be my own purpose; I must thereby satisfy my own desires, even though it may have ever so many aspects which do not concern me. This is the infinite right of the individual to find itself satisfied in its activity and labour.

<snip>

Though the precise mechanism is not yet fully understood, we know from observation that the application of a lyrium brand during the rite of Tranquility acts to block the connection between an entity’s physical body and her fade-shadow.  (Or “soul”- the two terms are interchangeable.)  This conduit has its physical source in the forehead of sentient beings- a drastically simplified mirror of modern Cognitive Science’s understanding of the forebrain as the biological locus for formation of intent, or Choice.  In the simplified mirror of the DA universe, this is the critical intersection between an individuals “soul” and her physical body.

 

Given what we believe we know about the nature of magic in Dragon Age, the effect of sealing that conduit is a logical extension.  With that conduit blocked, the mage is prevented from to drawing on the Fade, a critical component required for all magic, and thus is rendered a non-threat as a caster.

 

On a deeper ‘meta-magic’ level, we know from observation that while a mage made tranquil is cut off from emotion, their desire for purpose (the original “fire” in their blood) remains.  They retain the capacity to do, to create- but require an external source to direct that impulse.  Indeed, we also know that tranquil mages do not possess the ability to refuse command.  They are literally cut off from the world of Option, and thus can no longer create independent Choice.  

<snip>

 

  If subscribing to Hegel's viewpoint, we can theorise that the Fade could potentially exist for our world, too. The only difference seeming to be the existence of those who can not only "actualise" their "purpose", but have that purpose actualised in the form of fire, ice and electricity...

Edit: oops this is a giant post, sorry!! 

[Taelaa]

Hot damn.

 

 

Seriously, the artists just did such an amazing job on Solas (among other characters), he almost looks real sometimes. Goodbye uncanny valley, hello smokin' hot elvhen god!

 

I'll just be over here in the corner slavering.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

. 

[Sister Squish]

That's a keeper...

All of it? Just for Valentine's day?

He loves you, doesn't he...

Ohhh, he's a keeper!

I think he may have found your sweet spot... But good for him... And you!

 

Yup, somebody got laid tonight 

[Giton]

 
I promised and I will stick to my word:
 
 
Vhenan,

It has been only a few weeks since that day that I first laid eyes on you on the Solas discussion thread. But the memory is still fresh in my mind and every time I relive the moment, a small smile starts to spread out along my lips.
Remembering your fanfiction; the skillful way you beat the other girls to the bride's bouquet* tie words to sentences; all memories only leading me back to you, ma sa'lath.

I know I should probably be telling you all these deep, heartfelt feelings of mine face to face, over a romantic dinner, but here I am - in the written word.
A part of me just felt I would rather get it out right, in your eyes, just once, rather than appear a bumbling mess of nerves when all my thoughts were seemingly locked in my heart and mind. Maker's breath, I am sure with you in front of me for such a baring of my soul, that my nerves would have gotten the better of me and I wouldn't have been able to say even one sentence of all the feelings that I feel for you.

Will you marry me, vhenan'ara?

In love now and always,
Siha
 
 
 
*Who posted that picture of Frank N. Furter? How is one to concentrate!
 
(Text written only by me alone. And maybe by staring at this page - without reading any of it!)

Vehnan,

 

[Meer]

Okay, I have to share these comics with you guys, they're too fun:

Spoiler

http://databunny.tum...st-a-fastidious

And one for you Corypheus x Heels vhenans, with a splash of Vivienne:

Spoiler

http://databunny.tum...-know-she-would

[Elven_Glory]

I will post my Valentine's Day contribution once again in case anyone who wanted to read it missed the link I posted many hours ago.

https://docs.google....dit?usp=sharing

 

And for those who have, a Solas (plus Cole) so that I may also be contributing something new (hopefully). 

http://www.deviantar...solas-513801586

[Giton]

Dragon Age is helping me so much with my studies \o/

 

Hegel and The Fade

Spoiler

  In the aftermath of the American and French Revolutions, among the philosophical battles largely encompassing the argument between relativism and absolutism, Hegel published his Phenomenology of Spirit. In this work he outlines his "theory of truth" in an attempt to understand the world from a larger, even "divine" point of view in reference to "true" knowledge. Hegel begins by rejecting key metaphors which had ruled philosophy for centuries. Specifically, those referring to the idea that "truth" was something static and objective and separate from our individual consciousness. 

 

 

  The "correspondence" metaphors he refers to which I find directly relates to the subject of the DA Fade is his deliberate distancing from the division between: 

a. the world in itself (the "Absolute") 

b. our knowledge (beliefs, "utterances", cognitive processes) 

  And between these two realms he refers to "some distorting filter [our senses] or actively altered by the machinery of our understanding". 

 

Ding ding, seems to correspond with this World of Thedas codex on the Veil: 

 

 Note that Hegel does not suggest the moving of one absolute "truth" to another "truth" - he attempts to change the way we think about "truth" by challenging how we already think of it - this transition between ideas - is the moving through the Veil. 

 

  This sounds absurd when applied to the real world so far, but stay with me, I'll try to explain. Hegel provides a selection of examples, from the most primitive sensory perception to the most sophisticated views of the Enlightenment, evidencing how we may all think differently - various "forms" of consciousness - and how one person's reality is not that of the next's. He likens this to seeing a beam of light, refracted into a spectrum through a crystal. 

 

  This "beam of light" truth, he says, is not found outside of ourselves. Nor is not found inside our individual self-enclosed "self" - which he refers to as an "instrument" which one can attempt to capture the truth with but will inevitably mold and distort it's shape in doing so. Hegel suggests the truth "is a whole" - the unity of all our consciousnesses . Reality, in this way, is a product of the mind - not individual minds, but a cosmic mind.  

 

SOUNDS LIKE THE FADE RIGHT

 

  A variety of forms of consciousness does not by itself mean there is no "correct way" of knowing. Forms of consciousness, Hegel suggests, can emerge by way of improvement or opposition. Take for example, a subject like physics. Long-accepted theories regarding the way the world works are often challenged - and through this challenging, improvements are made (or even overturned). Hegel argues that this is a necessary sense that these theories are all moving toward some final end - leading up to something - a viewpoint that is not relative to any particular viewpoint or perspective. This is the standpoint he calls "absolute knowing". 

 

  This idea that various forms of consciousness emerge one from another and lead us eventually to the absolute is perhaps Hegel's most exciting philosophical contribution to Western thinking. For the first time philosophy and humanity are provided with a historical perspective. Knowledge is not about what is apart from our knowledge of it. Truth develops as the human mind develops. Truth is not about the static being, but about the becoming. 

 

  This applies to DA in several ways: 

1> we are seeing this "cosmic mind" in the form of the Fade - unlikely to be in a state of "absolute knowing" with how demon-infested it currently is... but this gives the races of Thedas goals to work towards; to better themselves for the sake of all - past, present and future. Optimism \o/

2> Importance of historical events in shaping the nature of the Fade e.g. the widely held belief that the simple contact with mortality in humans was enough to produce that idea in the Fade and in turn affect the Elvhen (drawing from that collected consciousness of the Fade). 

3> I believe the idea of conflict shaping improvement supports madrars eternal Triad theory and that of Solas' (or an equivalent figure) role in history

 

  Hegel suggests a holistic world view in which consciousness and the world are not separate but inseparably integrated. There is no world, no reality in itself, apart from consciousness. One may take this view of our world (other philosophers argue that we cannot in fact be certain of anything at all apart from the one certainty that we are "thinking things"), but in DA, even if we agree that there is no veil and that our self-enclosed consciousness moves between a "physical" body and a "Fade" body simply when we alter our perceptions, we still must make the distinction between the two ideas. 

 

  So I believe we must refute Hegel's suggestion that both world and consciousness are integrated. UNLESS this is precisely what Solas is referring to when he speaks of a time when the Fade and the Physical world were united... which may lead us to speculate as to whether it was only the Veil which is a manufactured construct - and not the entire Fade itself? 

 

  At first, Solas may seem like a contradiction when reflecting on all of this. A synthesizing of all consciousness? But doesn't he value individuality and freedom above all else? Yet the value of these things is not lost here. It is more important for those with freedom to think critically, to use individual reasoning, for growth and change, to come to their own conclusions on knowledge in order to improve the whole. And yet, the world itself can develop and change so that virtues and truths of one generation may well become inadequate to the next. 

 

  It is not relativism in the crude sense (meaning, it is not that a truth can only be true for a particular person). "Absolute knowledge" in this theory is not subjective - it can theoretically be found, just... not in the minds of individuals. 

 

  Arguably the most important of Hegel's notions is that of his all-embracing overview of "Spirit" - a concept which embraces all of humanity, all of history, and all of nature as well. Freedom, he says, is the purpose developing through history and humanity. 

  [Solas Approves]. 

 

  This all sounds a bit familiar. This next, final bit is Hegel bringing together his ideas of Spirit, cosmic consciousness, and purpose - reminding me again of madrar's Soul and Fade Shadow theory: 

 

 

  If subscribing to Hegel's viewpoint, we can theorise that the Fade could potentially exist for our world, too. The only difference seeming to be the existence of those who can not only "actualise" their "purpose", but have that purpose actualised in the form of fire, ice and electricity...

Edit: oops this is a giant post, sorry!! 

I Kant with Hegel.

 

(Sorry, I am awful.)

[Meer]

Vehnan,

 

But I asked first--...no, no this is for the best. You'll be happier with Siha. *Dabs eyes in an exaggerated manner.* I will admire your unique and marvelous writing from afar. In another world, vhenan. In another world. 

[Giton]

But I asked first--...no, no this is for the best. You'll be happier with Siha. *Dabs eyes in an exaggerated manner.* I will admire your unique and marvelous writing from afar. In another world, vhenan. In another world. 

There ys but one thyng to do: Ich propose a joust or a clashe of armes!

[Kappa Neko]

I spent the past 5 hours playing the ME3 multiplayer... I thought I buried that disgusting obsession. Apparently not. I found a few 48h coupons from ages ago.

Been two years. Didn't think there were people still playing it. Unfortunately, there are...

 

I'll go sit in a corner wearing my shame hat...

[Maria13]

 

 

 

 

 

Yup, somebody got laid tonight 

 

 

[Best Solas voice]: I am glad to hear it...

[Rabbitonfire]

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[Siha]

There ys but one thyng to do: Ich propose a joust or a clashe of armes!

 

I should not have mentioned my willingness to duel.

I have my bright moments; this was not one of them.

[Dr. Doctor]

Here's a thought, Andruil's codex entry talks about her journeys to the Abyss where she hunted the Forgotten Ones. The entry goes on to say how she returned to our world filled with a little more madness each time. One of the Ancient Elven Texts mentions "The Pillars of the Earth".

What if the Black City isn't actually a city, but the link in the Eluvian network that connects to the Void? Maybe Solas, or some other members of the Elven Pantheon purposely sealed it off to prevent the strange properties of that realm (the Blight) from entering our plane of existence? When Corypheus opened the city's doors he was exposed to the Void and transformed into the first Darkspawn.

The codex entry for the cult known as the Empty Ones:

It is unknown what passed then, but over time, the Empty Ones grew to believe that the blight was to be the tools by with the Maker would end all of creation. They preached that it came from the Void, a place of nothing, and that returning to the Void was something to be celebrated because it meant an end to all pain and all suffering.

[Giton]

I should not have mentioned my willingness to duel.

I have my bright moments; this was not one of them.

How about competitive sudoku?

 

For:

Ne nevir shall Ich given thee uppe,

Ne nevir shall Ich letten thee doune,

Ne nevir shal Ich wandren fer and leave thee yn the Hissing Wastes a wyvern nest.