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[BoscoBread]

Have any of you guys read the comic series "Fables?" I imagine if Lavellan got pregnant from Solas, she would have 7 wolf-like babies (a litter!) like in Fables

That brood is just one tragedy after the other. Ugh babes in toy land killed me.

[Meer]

That brood is just one tragedy after the other. Ugh babes in toy land killed me.

Oh, god, right? The conclusion for that arc was just so...

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Ouch, Darien.

[flabbadence]

*still waiting for the duel for true love*

 

And this:

 

Dragon Age is helping me so much with my studies \o/

 

Hegel and The Fade

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  In the aftermath of the American and French Revolutions, among the philosophical battles largely encompassing the argument between relativism and absolutism, Hegel published his Phenomenology of Spirit. In this work he outlines his "theory of truth" in an attempt to understand the world from a larger, even "divine" point of view in reference to "true" knowledge. Hegel begins by rejecting key metaphors which had ruled philosophy for centuries. Specifically, those referring to the idea that "truth" was something static and objective and separate from our individual consciousness. 

 

 

  The "correspondence" metaphors he refers to which I find directly relates to the subject of the DA Fade is his deliberate distancing from the division between: 

a. the world in itself (the "Absolute") 

b. our knowledge (beliefs, "utterances", cognitive processes) 

  And between these two realms he refers to "some distorting filter [our senses] or that which is actively altered by the machinery of our understanding". 

 

Ding ding, seems to correspond with this World of Thedas codex on the Veil: 

 

 Note that Hegel does not suggest the moving of one absolute "truth" to another "truth" - he attempts to change the way we think about "truth" by challenging how we already think of it - this transition between ideas - is the moving through the Veil. 

 

  This sounds absurd when applied to the real world so far, but stay with me, I'll try to explain. Hegel provides a selection of examples, from the most primitive sensory perception to the most sophisticated views of the Enlightenment, evidencing how we may all think differently - various "forms" of consciousness - and how one person's reality is not that of the next's. He likens this to seeing a beam of light, refracted into a spectrum through a crystal. 

 

  This "beam of light" truth, he says, is not found outside of ourselves. Nor is not found inside our individual self-enclosed "self" - which he refers to as an "instrument" which one can attempt to capture the truth with but will inevitably mold and distort it's shape in doing so. Hegel suggests the truth "is a whole" - the unity of all our consciousnesses . Reality, in this way, is a product of the mind - not individual minds, but a cosmic mind.  

 

SOUNDS LIKE THE FADE RIGHT

 

  A variety of forms of consciousness does not by itself mean there is no "correct way" of knowing. Forms of consciousness, Hegel suggests, can emerge by way of improvement or opposition. Take for example, a subject like physics. Long-accepted theories regarding the way the world works are often challenged - and through this challenging, improvements are made (or even overturned). Hegel argues that this is a necessary sense that these theories are all moving toward some final end - leading up to something - a viewpoint that is not relative to any particular viewpoint or perspective. This is the standpoint he calls "absolute knowing". 

 

  This idea that various forms of consciousness emerge one from another and lead us eventually to the absolute is perhaps Hegel's most exciting philosophical contribution to Western thinking. For the first time philosophy and humanity are provided with a historical perspective. Knowledge is not about what is apart from our knowledge of it. Truth develops as the human mind develops. Truth is not about the static being, but about the becoming. 

 

  This applies to DA in several ways: 

1> we are seeing this "cosmic mind" in the form of the Fade - unlikely to be in a state of "absolute knowing" with how demon-infested it currently is... but this gives the races of Thedas goals to work towards; to better themselves for the sake of all - past, present and future. Optimism \o/

2> Importance of historical events in shaping the nature of the Fade e.g. the widely held belief that the simple contact with mortality in humans was enough to produce that idea in the Fade and in turn affect the Elvhen (drawing from that collected consciousness of the Fade). 

3> I believe the idea of conflict shaping improvement supports madrars eternal Triad theory and that of Solas' (or an equivalent figure) role in history

 

  Hegel suggests a holistic world view in which consciousness and the world are not separate but inseparably integrated. There is no world, no reality in itself, apart from consciousness. One may take this view of our world (other philosophers argue that we cannot in fact be certain of anything at all apart from the one certainty that we are "thinking things"), but in DA, even if we agree that there is no veil and that our self-enclosed consciousness moves between a "physical" body and a "Fade" body simply when we alter our perceptions, we still must make the distinction between the two ideas. 

 

  So I believe we must refute Hegel's suggestion that both world and consciousness are integrated. UNLESS this is precisely what Solas is referring to when he speaks of a time when the Fade and the Physical world were united... which may lead us to speculate as to whether it was only the Veil which is a manufactured construct - and not the entire Fade itself? 

 

  At first, Solas may seem like a contradiction when reflecting on all of this. A synthesizing of all consciousness? But doesn't he value individuality and freedom above all else? Yet the value of these things is not lost here. It is more important for those with freedom to think critically, to use individual reasoning, for growth and change, to come to their own conclusions on knowledge in order to improve the whole. And yet, the world itself can develop and change so that virtues and truths of one generation may well become inadequate to the next. 

 

  It is not relativism in the crude sense (meaning, it is not that a truth can only be true for a particular person). "Absolute knowledge" in this theory is not subjective - it can theoretically be found, just... not in the minds of individuals. 

 

  Arguably the most important of Hegel's notions is that of his all-embracing overview of "Spirit" - a concept which embraces all of humanity, all of history, and all of nature as well. Freedom, he says, is the purpose developing through history and humanity. 

  [Solas Approves]. 

 

  This all sounds a bit familiar. This next, final bit is Hegel bringing together his ideas of Spirit, cosmic consciousness, and purpose - reminding me again of madrar's Soul and Fade Shadow theory: 

 

 

  If subscribing to Hegel's viewpoint, we can theorise that the Fade could potentially exist for our world, too. The only difference seeming to be the existence of those who can not only "actualise" their "purpose", but have that purpose actualised in the form of fire, ice and electricity...

Edit: oops this is a giant post, sorry!! 

 

[InkQuest]

Are you referring to the temple in the middle of a lake?

 

Terribly sorry for such a late reply, but I'd feel bad not to answer!

The concept arts I was referring to doesn't seem to be online anywhere, which is a shame, so I took some pictures of them. Sorry for the phone quality!

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In the header image for "What Pride had Wrought" you can vaguely see the same Mythal statue in the background, which is what leads me to believe it was just concept art that wasn't shown.

[Janic99]

Speaking of Fables/The Wolf Among Us, I'm still waiting to see fanart of Solas dressed like Bigby. It must be done. 

I can do it for you HAHA XD

but omg I could imagine Lavellan telling to Solas being pregnant like this:



Ross = Solas
Rachel = Lavellan

[Raeona]

Why is AO3 perpetually in beta-mode? Or, is it really still very new?

 

It's been like that for years. I honestly have no idea what's taking them so long but it seems to work well enough most of the time. 

[jawsisinmywc]

...Did I hear someone say a few pages back that Killabee was banned??? Can't find the post, but...

 

 

lol.

 

...You know, I think I'm actually going to miss him while he's gone. (NO ONE DARE TELL HIM I SAID THAT)

Killabee or Colonelkillerbee?

[Elven_Glory]

I want to write another thing, but I'm not sure which direction to take it. It occurs after --ahem-- the thing I don't talk about... Where Solas is talking to Lavellan about her recent erratic behavior (she almost got herself killed) and I could potentially make it a very angry and dramatic scene where Lavellan cusses him out and then learns the hard lesson that he still loves her OR... I could potentially make it very silly where she is highly medicated at the time and basically sort of makes fun of him the whole time he's trying to talk to her and then she doesn't realize until days later that he still loves her because she can't remember most of what happened since she had been pumped full of painkillers.

Should I just write both and then see which one I like better when I'm done? Or do you think that's a waste of time?
edit: ToP Solas

Source: http://ar-lath-ma-vh...re-is-a-smiling

[Siha]

I want to write another thing, ...  I could potentially make it a very angry and dramatic scene where Lavellan cusses him out and then learns the hard lesson that he still loves her ... where she is highly medicated ...

 

Wait... is this going to be smut? And you bring up "angry and learning the hard way" in combination with "highly medicated"? That's... bold on a public forum, I give you that!

(Seriously though, is this going to be smut?)

[Elven_Glory]

Wait... is this going to be smut? And you bring up "angry and learning the hard way" in combination with "highly medicated"? That's... bold on a public forum, I give you that!
(Seriously though, is this going to be smut?)

No, this particular one will not be smut, but I do have some after Adamant smut planned for the future, if that is any consolation.

Edit: and it's angry OR medicated. Although, combining them may be interesting as well.

[Siha]

No, this particular one will not be smut, but I do have some after Adamant smut planned for the future, if that is any consolation.

 

I'd go with angry. Just not make her look weak or bitchy.

[Elven_Glory]

I'd go with angry. Just not make her look weak or bitchy.

Well, she won't look weak, that's for sure. I can't guarantee against bitchy because I don't know how she'll come across, I'm still sort of new to writing for other people to read, but I will tell you it is not my intention to make her so, and if she comes across that way, I would definitely want to fix it.

[Moirin]

I want to write another thing, but I'm not sure which direction to take it. It occurs after --ahem-- the thing I don't talk about... Where Solas is talking to Lavellan about her recent erratic behavior (she almost got herself killed) and I could potentially make it a very angry and dramatic scene where Lavellan cusses him out and then learns the hard lesson that he still loves her OR... I could potentially make it very silly where she is highly medicated at the time and basically sort of makes fun of him the whole time he's trying to talk to her and then she doesn't realize until days later that he still loves her because she can't remember most of what happened since she had been pumped full of painkillers.

Should I just write both and then see which one I like better when I'm done? Or do you think that's a waste of time?

 

I lack that gif meme thing that says both is good, but yes, both is good.

[nikki-tikki]

I lack that gif meme thing that says both is good, but yes, both is good.

[Mims]

Well, I am a failure because this is not valentines day anymore.

 

 

All the awesome valentines gifs had me wanting to try to make one. Only to remember I haven't made a gif in five years. So, behold ye ancient technologies hard at work!

 

I also have a WIP for that other drawing I am working on, of my Lavellan:

 

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[WildSky214]

I also have a WIP for that other drawing I am working on, of my Lavellan:
 

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That's really good! Now all I can think is why he didn't jawbone as goodbye gift. It would have been something!

[Mims]

Too much of a Morrigan move, probably! Mostly I just thought it would be cool to have in the picture. But, it would be like my Lavellan to steal it. Maybe she snatched it one night and replaced it with one of her earrings hidden somewhere in his things. 

[WildSky214]

Too much of a Morrigan move, probably! Mostly I just thought it would be cool to have in the picture. But, it would be like my Lavellan to steal it. Maybe she snatched it one night and replaced it with one of her earrings hidden somewhere in his things.

I always cheated by looking up the proper dialogue for approval points and plowing through the dialogue, and of course spamming gifts, so I could usually get the ring scene while still in Lothering. (:

[Ajna]

If anybody feels the need to see Gideon Emery in nothing but a pair of boxers I suggest watching Friday's episode of Grimm.

[Avejajed]

Killabee will kill me but I don't really like playing a Warrior. It feels clunky. Of course I'm still early level, so maybe it gets better.

[Siha]

Killabee will kill me but I don't really like playing a Warrior.

 

By the time he is back this post will be buried under hundreds of.... I will miss you.

[flabbadence]

Well, I am a failure because this is not valentines day anymore.

 

 

All the awesome valentines gifs had me wanting to try to make one. Only to remember I haven't made a gif in five years. So, behold ye ancient technologies hard at work!

 

I also have a WIP for that other drawing I am working on, of my Lavellan:

 

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Your Lavellan WIP's amazing Mims 

 

And the gif's adorable 

[CapricornSun]

Killabee will kill me but I don't really like playing a Warrior. It feels clunky. Of course I'm still early level, so maybe it gets better.

 

It does feel rather clunky. My Trev is a 2H warrior and I found it a bit of a hassle trying to catch up to the baddies in battle (especially that darn Despair Demon). I prefer playing as a ranged fighter in DAI but I did eventually get used to the warrior after a while. Maybe you will too?

[flabbadence]

That's really good! Now all I can think is why he didn't jawbone as goodbye gift. It would have been something!

 

Just found this on Tumblr:

 

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http://prismavore.tu...ce-calls-in-the

[coldwetn0se]

Killabee will kill me but I don't really like playing a Warrior. It feels clunky. Of course I'm still early level, so maybe it gets better.

It really does get better. Be sure you have Charging Bull and Shield Bash, for smashing/shattering/ramming goodness.