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[Avejajed]

*widens his eyes with fear and surprise*
*settles into his comfy chair*

I swear to Andraste, Caddius. I don't care how smart you are!

[Aroihkin]

Honestly the Warden and Hawke aren't even ridiculously powerful.  I mean, yeah they've done some amazing things.  Well .. the Warden killed an Archdemon, which has happened before.  And Hawke ... ok, Hawke killed the Arishok?  Hmmm.  But let's face it, the Inquisitor is the only one of the protagonists that has a truly unique ability that absolutely no one else has.

 

In terms of resources and political power, the Inquisitor -- of course -- stomps a Warden-Commander into the dirt, even one with the connections* the Warden has. But that's not really what I meant. There's a reason the Inquisitor is who reaches out to the Warden for help and not the other way around, IMO.

 

Hawke... I was indifferent to as a character, I think in part because they didn't... do much. My feelings on Hawke (or lack thereof) tends to be an unpopular opinion in the circles I run in, though.

 

(*The Fereldan crown, the Stenishok, potentially one of/the leader of the Crows/at least someone the Crows fear, potentially the Divine, potentially god!Morrigan if Flemythal managed to pass that on, etc -- your old party has gone places. But no, the Warden doesn't actually have an army, even though -- with the Origins/Awakening magic systems -- a mage!Warden may as well be the Hulk. I had to take my Warden's magic from him so that I could have a bloody plot in my smut series. Which, come to think of it, may be part of why we won't get to play the Warden again. Potentially waaaay too OP.)

[Caddius]

I swear to Andraste, Caddius. I don't care how smart you are!

Where is your Maker, now?

My guess is that Kinzie was just the woman in the GIF, who is presumably from a film or TV show?

(Let's see if she buys it, everyone.  )

[Aroihkin]

Now I'm imaging using Cole as a hunting hound.

 

You practically could since he's the only one who seems to be able to home in on people like that. XD

 

I know.  I'm really dreading DA4 if a new protagonist will be the only one to confront Solas or whatever.  I feel like there's a lot more to do with the Inquisitor too and the Inquisition.

 

Yeeeeah, I'm dreading that too. Or the "oh they met and talked it out off camera" lame approach.

 

My one solace (ha, get it, dreading, solace, I'll... see myself out) is that Solas seems popular enough with the fans and with the devs that I actually doubt we're going to get that much of a lame 'end'.

 

...Tentatively doubt, anyway. I am a stout Zevranite, after all; I've been on the bad side of DA's budget constraints more than once, now.

[Satsumi]

I've been writing a post-epilogue baby-fic for my solvellan and now I'm incredibly depressed.  I need some Solas.

[Colonelkillabee]

Where is your Maker, now?

My guess is that Kinzie was just the woman in the GIF, who is presumably from a film or TV show?

(Let's see if she buys it, everyone.  )

Maybe we'll tell her if she gets on her knees and begs for the forgiveness of Dumat, the Sweet Silence.

[Mims]

I hope we have another game or expansion with the Inquisitor. If only because it feels like we might need a breather of sorts. A lot of each game is spent retreading similar information and characters. It would be nice to have a moment to just tackle the plot and what is going on. Then once the stage is set, move on to a place like Tevinter.

 

I also feel like the game would lose something if the Inquisitor was not the one to come into conflict with Solas [or whatever the overarching plot with the orb is.] We'd have to sit and explain all of that stuff to a new character. 

[Colonelkillabee]

I hope we have another game or expansion with the Inquisitor. If only because it feels like we might need a breather of sorts. A lot of each game is spent retreading similar information and characters. It would be nice to have a moment to just tackle the plot and what is going on. Then once the stage is set, move on to a place like Tevinter.

 

I also feel like the game would lose something if the Inquisitor was not the one to come into conflict with Solas [or whatever the overarching plot with the orb is.] We'd have to sit and explain all of that stuff to a new character. 

I'm so tired of new protags... Inquistor needs to come back at least one more time if you ask me.

[Elessara]

In terms of resources and political power, the Inquisitor -- of course -- stomps a Warden-Commander into the dirt, even one with the connections* the Warden has. But that's not really what I meant. There's a reason the Inquisitor is who reaches out to the Warden for help and not the other way around, IMO.

 

Hawke... I was indifferent to as a character, I think in part because they didn't... do much. My feelings on Hawke (or lack thereof) tends to be an unpopular opinion in the circles I run in, though.

 

(*The Fereldan crown, the Stenishok, potentially one of/the leader of the Crows/at least someone the Crows fear, potentially the Divine, potentially god!Morrigan if Flemythal managed to pass that on, etc -- your old party has gone places. But no, the Warden doesn't actually have an army, even though -- with the Origins/Awakening magic systems -- a mage!Warden may as well be the Hulk. I had to take my Warden's magic from him so that I could have a bloody plot in my smut series. Which, come to think of it, may be part of why we won't get to play the Warden again. Potentially waaaay too OP.)

 

If you're talking in terms of game mechanics, then with the mechanics of Origins/Awakenings (especially with the new specializations) then yeah the Warden is ridiculously powerful.  But if you're talking in general terms .. the Warden is just a warden.  Ok, the Warden is Warden-Commander of Ferelden yeah but still, you're just a warden.  There is nothing really unique about the Warden.  You have Warden abilities and you're a fighter/mage/rogue.  Hawke is .. well let's not go there.  Still, nothing really unique about Hawke either.  The Inquisitor has the Anchor and possibly the Well of Sorrows that are tied directly to the character (i.e. not an item that can be taken away).  Which is what I mean really.  In terms of lore and comparatively speaking to the Warden and Hawke, the Inquisitor is different.

[Leiou]

I know.  I'm really dreading DA4 if a new protagonist will be the only one to confront Solas or whatever.  I feel like there's a lot more to do with the Inquisitor too and the Inquisition.

Right? The Inquisitor's story just doesn't feel finished to me either. I mean I know we closed the breach and all, but... I wonder if people who didn't romance Solas have this same feeling? Like my Lavellan's story just doesn't feel done what with the lack of closure with Solas. And there's also the whole question of what will the inquisition do now?

[Elessara]

What if the Inquisitor brought along Cole, who was arguably the other person in Inquisiton he was closest too? (Kind of like how the Warden could search for Morrigan with Dog.)

 

I kind of meant, if the Inquisitor doesn't get to confront Solas themselves, then if we have a new antagonist in the next game.  Having that new character confront Solas would lose a lot of the impact/drama that the Inquisitor would feel given the history Solas and the Inquisitor had.

 

It would be like having Hawke hunt down Morrigan in Witch Hunt instead of the Warden.

[Colonelkillabee]

I kind of meant, if the Inquisitor doesn't get to confront Solas themselves, then if we have a new antagonist in the next game.  Having that new character confront Solas would lose a lot of the impact/drama that the Inquisitor would feel given the history Solas and the Inquisitor had.

 

It would be like having Hawke hunt down Morrigan in Witch Hunt instead of the Warden.

Or Alistair making the Swooping is Bad joke with us... it's just sad.

[SnowPeaShooter]

I kind of meant, if the Inquisitor doesn't get to confront Solas themselves, then if we have a new antagonist in the next game.  Having that new character confront Solas would lose a lot of the impact/drama that the Inquisitor would feel given the history Solas and the Inquisitor had.

 

It would be like having Hawke hunt down Morrigan in Witch Hunt instead of the Warden.

 

Exactly. If Solas becomes the main antagonist in DA4 and inquisitor Lavellan (or other inquisitors) are not there to confront him then the entire Solas thing will feel like a hugh war table mission.

 

But would Bioware really do such a thing? That will make the next game seriously lack of substance.

[Avejajed]

You guys all suck. A lot.

[Aroihkin]

Speaking of the reunion, though, I guess I could post this:

 

 

Only six hours of work on it though, so be gentle. Also my brain seems to have decided to start spitting out sequentials again, so this is probably just going to be a single panel in a... four? page comic. Probably. (It's because I took the hour and installed my old comic fonts on this new machine the other day, I swear, I cursed myself.)

 

If we do get a reunion/some kind of closure in canon, I'll probably roll with what they give us (unless it sucks) as "what happened". This is just... to give my brain something to gnaw on in the meanwhile. A backup plan, if you will.

 

 

If you're talking in terms of game mechanics, then with the mechanics of Origins/Awakenings (especially with the new specializations) then yeah the Warden is ridiculously powerful.  But if you're talking in general terms .. the Warden is just a warden.  Ok, the Warden is Warden-Commander of Ferelden yeah but still, you're just a warden.  There is nothing really unique about the Warden.  You have Warden abilities and you're a fighter/mage/rogue.  Hawke is .. well let's not go there.  Still, nothing really unique about Hawke either.  The Inquisitor has the Anchor and possibly the Well of Sorrows that are tied directly to the character (i.e. not an item that can be taken away).  Which is what I mean really.  In terms of lore and comparatively speaking to the Warden and Hawke, the Inquisitor is different.

 

 

True, I guess the Anchor just doesn't feel that relevant outside of dealing with rifts, to me. As an attack, it's not much different than regular spells, and they certainly can't risk throwing themselves and others into the Fade again without another "do or die" moment.

 

I suppose the Well is more significant, but I personally rolled with the fact that Solas is supposed to have 'begged' you not to drink it, and let Morrigan have it in my 'canon' game despite not getting the actual dialogue out of him.

 

Most of what the Inquisitor always has, no matter the origin or choices made, is a whole heck of a lot of loyal followers. Like I said, the Warden certainly doesn't have an army. Let alone one that could most likely conquer all of Thedas. Skyhold is basically its own nation, by the end, because "who is going to argue".

[Leiou]

Oooh this is some really cool fan art!

Spoiler

SOURCE: http://paperwick.tum...songs-i-have-in

 

10 more pages to 3k! Go Solas thread!

[Elessara]

Exactly. If Solas becomes the main antagonist in DA4 and inquisitor Lavellan (or other inquisitors) are not there to confront him then the entire Solas thing will feel like a hugh war table mission.

 

But would Bioware really do such a thing? That will make the next game seriously lack of substance.

 

Agreed.

 

Also, if the next game is set in Tevinter, which is what many people want, I can still see the Inquisition being relevant.  As of now, the Inquisition has very little presence in Tevinter.  What if it, as an organization, is invited there?  Maybe there are difficulties with red lyrium which is suddenly appearing all over the place thanks to Cornflakes spreading it around.  As a side issue, there could be a Qunari invasion.  I say side issue because so far, political intrigues seem to be side missions.  The main issues seem to be pointing towards more ... hmm ... spiritual/magical/mystical/esoteric ? ... searching for the right word ... 

 

Anyway, in DAO dealing with Loghain wasn't the main issue - the Blight was.  And let's skip over DA2  =p .... and in DAI the mage/templar conflict and the Orlesian Civil war also were not main issues.

 

At any rate, what I was getting at, is I can see the Inquisition still being relevant even if the setting itself moves to Tevinter or the Anderfels in the next game.

[Elessara]

Speaking of the reunion, though, I guess I could post this:

 

 

Only six hours of work on it though, so be gentle. Also my brain seems to have decided to start spitting out sequentials again, so this is probably just going to be a single panel in a... four? page comic. Probably. (It's because I took the hour and installed my old comic fonts on this new machine the other day, I swear, I cursed myself.)

 

If we do get a reunion/some kind of closure in canon, I'll probably roll with what they give us (unless it sucks) as "what happened". This is just... to give my brain something to gnaw on in the meanwhile. A backup plan, if you will.

 

 

 

 

True, I guess the Anchor just doesn't feel that relevant outside of dealing with rifts, to me. As an attack, it's not much different than regular spells, and they certainly can't risk throwing themselves and others into the Fade again without another "do or die" moment.

 

I suppose the Well is more significant, but I personally rolled with the fact that Solas is supposed to have 'begged' you not to drink it, and let Morrigan have it in my 'canon' game despite not getting the actual dialogue out of him.

 

Most of what the Inquisitor always has, no matter the origin or choices made, is a whole heck of a lot of loyal followers. Like I said, the Warden certainly doesn't have an army. Let alone one that could most likely conquer all of Thedas. Skyhold is basically its own nation, by the end, because "who is going to argue".

 

You're thinking of the Anchor in terms of game mechanics.  Yeah it deals with rifts and there's the Mark of the Rift attack.  But what is it in terms of lore?  It's a way to go physically into the Fade.  Now, from what Cole has said and from what we can gather from other game sources, there is something in the Black City that wants out.  And the Inquisitor is walking around with a door to the Fade stuck on their hand (basically).  Whatever is in the Black City that wants out is going to be really interested in the Inquisitor.  Also, any mage ... probably insane magisters in Tevinter ... who ever wanted to walk physically in the Fade are also going to be really interested in the Inquisitor.

[Aroihkin]

Thinking of how to put it, what I mean by "too many powerful people roaming around" is "look at all these spare Player Characters that we're not letting you play again". At this rate, they're going to have to form a club. Maybe build a treehouse. I'm starting to find it a little ridiculous, especially since they all have titles (Hero of Ferelden, Champion of Kirkwall, Inquisitor) and are thus of some renown. They're gonna start tripping over each other at this rate.

 

I really want to keep playing the Inquisitor. They built up the Inquisition and Skyhold and etc etc so high and so hard, dropping that into the pile and starting over with yet another strangely-magnetic (look at all these followers!) character would... eh. I'd just rather not. The Inquisition could easily get tangled in the rumored Wardens vs Wardens war, depending on how you handled the Wardens. There's the Qunari and Tevinter, of course. And I can't believe I'm saying it, but there's politics to be handled. DAI made me interested in that, for once.

 

And that's not even touching on the Solas issue, which is a thing even if you didn't romance him. I mean, even an Inquisitor that didn't get along with him? Whatever he's off doing is going to be a thing.

[Elessara]

You guys all suck. A lot.

 

What did I do?  =(

[TanisLave]

DA:4 play as solas and fight a new antagonist and your only companion is dog

[Aroihkin]

You're thinking of the Anchor in terms of game mechanics.  Yeah it deals with rifts and there's the Mark of the Rift attack.  But what is it in terms of lore?  It's a way to go physically into the Fade.  Now, from what Cole has said and from what we can gather from other game sources, there is something in the Black City that wants out.  And the Inquisitor is walking around with a door to the Fade stuck on their hand (basically).  Whatever is in the Black City that wants out is going to be really interested in the Inquisitor.  Also, any mage ... probably insane magisters in Tevinter ... who ever wanted to walk physically in the Fade are also going to be really interested in the Inquisitor.

 

True, it all depends on what the plot decides to do with it.

[Dr. Doctor]

After realizing that Solas' ball is officially called the Orb of Destruction I can only picture him pushing around a giant sphere Katamari-style.

[Avejajed]

I still dislike all of you, but I think if we go to Tevinter, that won't be in an expansion, that will be another game completely, unless the idea is we go to Arlathan or whatever. If we keep the inquisitor I think it more likely we go west toward Weisshaupt and Serault.