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[flabbadence]

So apparently when I'm already tired caffeine just makes my thoughts largely verbal, as opposed to the usual late-night game of floating clouds of syllables, images, and the occasional bit of cartographic erotica  neon signs.

From what I've been told, giving me coffee in the morning is the equivalent of injecting an obnoxious cocktail of heroin into a drunken Martin Freeman's eye. With gesticulating and managing to draw out precise maps in half the usual time.

Not those exact words, obviously, but you get the gist.

This week should be the week I actually take the time to begin writing the DA fanfiction. It's morphed into a series of one-shots that focus on the villains and the Inquisition as a whole, I think. We'll see. My stories are either meticulously constructed, and have multiple layers of history, mythology, and hidden machinations that the reader only puts together many pages later, or they're written and re-written en masse in between paragraphs.

How does this "be-ta read-er' thing work, anyhow? Do I just throw darts and whoever gets an unsightly scar gets thrown to the Word document, or is it more of a raffle?

 

I can feel your caffeine high from all the way over here.

 

I've never had a beta reader either, so I don't know exactly how it works. But I'd always assumed you just ask someone if they're willing to beta for you, and if they agree, then they're your beta. The threat of darts can help you persuade them though, if you want to go about it that way.

[Maria13]

Everytime anyone proposes to have Merrill be involved in Solas stuff I feel it's requisite to include Vivienne to maximize that Torchwood reunion.

 

Now if only Varric was voiced by John Barrowman...

 

I didn't know Indira Varma was in Torchwood...

[Ajna]

I didn't know Indira Varma was in Torchwood...

 

She's Suzie, in the first season.

[RoyalRel]

Hi guys. Here to rain on the Solas train. And rekindle the Abelas muscle car racing track than I have designated "Abellan" (totes made that a tag on Tumblr ladies. TOTES.)



I DO WHAT I WAAAAANT.

And Killabee, I did you some Lavellan. I can make her wear less clothes next time.

 

I just saw this on your tumblr and just about died. Liz, you are the ****!

Also, I imagine something similar happened behind that tent, yes? Please say yes.

[Cheese of Borg]

Well this is as close to page 3k I get before I go to bed!  

[Maria13]

Which is why I don't subscribe to this theory. He may think the world's pretty awful now, but while he's nostalgic for the past, I don't think he considers it better than the present. On the contrary, he even tells Dorian to stuff it when he tries to romanticize Arlathan, and I bet the Dalish doing exactly that is one of his main reasons for disliking them.

 

Edit: And holy crap, my 3k tribute is not ready

 

I did the Green Knights tomb this weekend and at one point, looking at one of the murals Solas says something along the lines of: "There they are the green knights according to the elves the noble defenders of their culture... But according to the chantry bloodthirsty murderers... The truth probably lies somewhere in between..."  So I agree with you. I think he has a very realistic approach to the past.

[Siha]

Lol, I've been pretty busy lately with my Cullen 5k celebration fic and then I am in the process of updating my Solavellan fic. So my free time is rather dismal. Although when it comes to Conan, I can assure you that our conversations are gold.

 

I was wondering what you all thought Lavellan meant to Solas. Please feel free to be as short or as detailed as you want. I am pretty curious as to what different interpretations/feelings everyone has.

 

No problem. Just drop in once in a while, drop something gorgeous like those Bull style lines previously, and make sure to link your fiction, that's fine.

 

I suppose Solas felt something for her? He does seem genuine when being around her (from what the constant gifs and screenshots here make me believe). And she was important enough to shake his beliefs in the Dalish. Though that hardly counts because he also says that about my Lavellan (no romance). However, the mission comes first, right? If she will have a long-term effect on him I really don't know. I would assume not, I personally find that out of character for somebody so focused and driven as him. But I rather wouldn't speculate.

 

 

Hi guys. Here to rain on the Solas train. And rekindle the Abelas muscle car racing track than I have designated "Abellan" (totes made that a tag on Tumblr ladies. TOTES.)



I DO WHAT I WAAAAANT.

And Killabee, I did you some Lavellan. I can make her wear less clothes next time.

 

This is amazing. “Did my heart love till now? forswear it, sight! For I ne'er saw true beauty till this night.”

 

 

[Caddius]

Does the Sera=Andruil theory have anything to do with the Painted Box in First Enchanter Irving's Pimp Pad/Headmaster's office? I mean, the apparently unusually callous Red Jennies of Denerim threatened people over it, and it was in the same room as (an admittedly unknown at the time) artifact of the elven goddess Mythal.

Painted Box as a horcrux/fragment of Andruil's essence?

I'm just practicing my dart throwing here, don't mind me. 

[Maria13]

She's Suzie, in the first season.

 

Oh yeah! Thanks.

[Maria13]

 

I suppose Solas felt something for her? He does seem genuine when being around her (from what the constant gifs and screenshots here make me believe). And she was important enough to shake his beliefs in the Dalish. Though that hardly counts because he also says that about my Lavellan (no romance). However, the mission comes first, right? If she will have a long-term effect on him I really don't know. I would assume not, I personally find that out of character for somebody so focused and driven as him. But I rather wouldn't speculate.

 

 

But he drops everything, and potentially risks exposure, to go to the rescue of his spirit friend in All New Faded for Her my headcanon is that he would do no less for the inquisitor... 

[Nightspirit]

Hello Solas thread! I've been 50+ pages behind every day for weeks now and finally I managed to claw myself to the surface. And just in time for page 3000. Nice.

 

On another note, is it just me or are pride demons really adorable?

 

 

Just look at those little fangs! 

[Vorathrad]

Wow, we're almost at the 3,000 mark! Let me offer you a song for the Solavellan playlist (btw, someone made a YouTube playlist with some of them, but I'm unable to find it. I'll give you my eternal love and likes if someone has the link)

 

 

Lyrics remind me of Solas and his unavoidable mission:

 

Spoiler

This is why events unnerve me
They find it all, a different story
Notice whom for wheels are turning
Turn again and turn towards this time
All she asks is the strength to hold me
Then again the same old story
Word will travel oh so quickly
Travel first and lean towards this time

I'll break them all, no mercy shown
Heaven knows, it's got to be this time
Watching her, these things she said
The times she cried
Too frail to wake this time

I'll take them down, no mercy shown
Heaven knows, it's got to be this time
Avenues all lined with trees
Picture me and then you start watching
Watching forever, forever
Watching love grow, forever
Let it be known, forever

 

 

[Siha]

But he drops everything, and potentially risks exposure, to go to the rescue of his spirit friend in All New Faded for Her my headcanon is that he would do no less for the inquisitor... 

 

And? Possible that he would save her life were she endangered. I said nothing to the contrary. However, he did not risk anything. Maybe the spirit didn't even know his identity.

 

Besides, I have a hard time taking that quest seriously. It is meant to show us what he is capable of but it makes no sense on its own. Why does he ask the inquisitor for help in the first place? He could have done that himself. Even if not, he did not even check it out prior to asking. That quest seems almost as odd to me as Bull's quest.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Caddius]

And? Possible that he would save her life were she endangered. I said nothing to the contrary. However, he did not risk anything. Maybe the spirit didn't even know his identity.

 

Besides, I have a hard time taking that quest seriously. It is meant to show us what he is capable of but it makes no sense on its own. Why does he ask the inquisitor for help in the first place? He could have done that himself. Even if not, he did not even check it out prior to asking. That quest seems almost as odd to me as Bull's quest.

I'm fairly certain that Wisdom knew his identity. They speak elven to each other, and she asks him to oversee her journey into death, which is what I would totally do if I had an ancient god handy when I kicked the bucket. Cole's viewings of her thoughts on him just seems like she knows his backstory and feels like his wisdom was ignored by the others.

This was not in any way influenced by that same Wisdom spirit being present in Crystal White. *innocent whistling*

I think he asked for help because he had no idea what was going on with Wisdom, just that she was in danger. And he's depowered, and needs to stay close to the Inquisitor to keep an eye on things. (Admittedly, he does head off for a while after this quest, but he was angsty, dammit! And Blackwall was hogging all the broody vibes at Skyhold!) Instead of being a gaggle of Pride demons with a battalion of flamethrower Uruk-Hai and a particularly feisty Forgotten One, it turned out to be a couple of mages that were doofuses even for Kirkwall. *shrug*

Obligatory Roman side-note, which is a bit disgusting: It's said that when the Emperor Vespasian was dying, after a particularly bad bout of diarrhea as part of the dying process, he dryly noted to his attendants, "Oh, dammit, I am becoming a god!" (The Romans liked to deify their emperors to add a little jazz to their parties and political gatherings. But posthumously, so their heads didn't get to big. After failing the mortal coil, they get promoted upstairs, I guess. Some emperors were worshiped during their lifetimes in the provinces, to maintain imperial dignitas and increase loyalty. This was typically avoided in the city of Rome. They're the unimpressed hometown folding their arms and judging everything.) Later, as he was actually seconds from dying, he had a friend drag him out of bed and hold him up so that it could be said Emperor Vespasian died standing.

[Caddius]

SO... Do you want to know how this all began!?




I have named the ship. NOW LET US SAIL IT.

WE SHALL SAIL INTO THE WEST AND FIND THESE MYSTERIOUS ELVEN TERRITORIES AND CREATE A BROOD OF BROODY THIGH-MASTER BABIES TO TAKE OVER ORLAIS WITH.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Maria13]

I'm fairly certain that Wisdom knew his identity. They speak elven to each other, and she asks him to oversee her journey into death, which is what I would totally do if I had an ancient god handy when I kicked the bucket. Cole's viewings of her thoughts on him just seems like she knows his backstory and feels like his wisdom was ignored by the others.

This was not in any way influenced by that same Wisdom spirit being present in Crystal White. *innocent whistling*

I think he asked for help because he had no idea what was going on with Wisdom, just that she was in danger. And he's depowered, and needs to stay close to the Inquisitor to keep an eye on things. 

 

[Cut some quite interesting musings on Roman eccentricity and attitudes to godhood]

 

This.

 

Clearly wisdom knew him and he knew her.

[Avejajed]

Hey I didn't miss page 3000! I want to go back to bed. Screw Monday.

[Rabbitonfire]

...Ouch. More hellspiral art, this time with Solas:

Spoiler

http://powersimon.tu...ugs-inquisitior

I want to add that he does sometimes post progess pics on how he made it.

 

[Avejajed]

Aww
And I so would have told you what that... Ken...thingy is. If only I had known. But I'm too old and far too indifferent to know things like that. I actually only watch Doctor Who. And only on Netflix. And only to drool over David Tennant. I have no idea what that series is actually about. Something like Emergency Room, I assume.


And how well she did it even, take an example! Though, that Conan gif was a nice start. (Highlander next time.)


That's superior! I wish I had been here to applaud you for it and use it as the proverbial stick to poke the Colonel. Argh.
And I hope I can remember these to use at any appropriate occasion.

I think you're becoming my favorite person on this thread.

But it's early and it's pre-coffee.

[Caddius]

You ever have that moment where you're simultaneously reading this thread, reading up on Genghis Khan's rise to power, looking at the puerty pictures of Constantinople in Attila: Total War, having an existential crisis because you were in awe of how many stars there were on the screen in Space Engine, but they were actually all galaxies, drafting Coryflora fanfiction, trying to balance in your old comfy chair, and wondering if Dejajave is still pissed at you for pretending like you had any idea who Kenzi was, and debating with yourself whether this all means that you're awesome at multi-tasking or really awful at it?

I'm determined to get to page 3000 because I'm tired and I missed page 2000. 

[Siha]

I have a balcony scene incoming.

 

I shiver in anticccccccipation.

 

Spoiler

 

I think he asked for help because he had no idea what was going on with Wisdom, just that she was in danger. And he's depowered, and needs to stay close to the Inquisitor to keep an eye on things. (Admittedly, he does head off for a while after this quest, but he was angsty, dammit! And Blackwall was hogging all the broody vibes at Skyhold!) Instead of being a gaggle of Pride demons with a battalion of flamethrower Uruk-Hai and a particularly feisty Forgotten One, it turned out to be a couple of mages that were doofuses even for Kirkwall. *shrug*

 

So we are trying to find excuses now? Really, I don't mind the quests. But BW did not quite go out of their way to make these quests sensible considering the character. As I said, Solas' quest is not as bad as Bulls (why the heck do we not just walk those five steps over to his guys (who are only outmatched 1:2 anyway) and help them?) but it is also not really convincing. He could have gone there to see what is going on. Besides, how long have those mages waited around the Plains already, immobile and frightened to death on that open, unprotected, and completely indefensible space, before we finally arrive and see what's going on?

[procutemeister]

Hey, just got home and caught up to the thread! And just in time for 3000 pages (I hope!)

 

Lol, I've been pretty busy lately with my Cullen 5k celebration fic and then I am in the process of updating my Solavellan fic. So my free time is rather dismal. Although when it comes to Conan, I can assure you that our conversations are gold.

 

I was wondering what you all thought Lavellan meant to Solas. Please feel free to be as short or as detailed as you want. I am pretty curious as to what different interpretations/feelings everyone has.

 

I think she did mean something to him, something important. In the Crestwood scene (before he breaks up with her) he says that he wants to be able to show her what she means to him. To me that seems like an indicator, at least. He also seems to be more genuine and less distant (than he usually is anyway) when he and Lavellan are alone together. 

 

Afterwards, I think that she'll still hold a very special place in his heart even though he leaves to go and do his own thing. Maybe he'll come back to her, maybe he won't, but he'll always remember her since she made an impact on his life.

 

i'm sorry this is sounding really cheesy aah

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Maria13]

So we are trying to find excuses now? Really, I don't mind the quests. But BW did not quite go out of their way to make these quests sensible considering the character. As I said, Solas' quest is not as bad as Bulls (why the heck do we not just walk those five steps over to his guys (who are only outmatched 1:2 anyway) and help them?) but it is also not really convincing. He could have gone there to see what is going on. Besides, how long have those mages waited around the Plains already, immobile and frightened to death on that open, unprotected, and completely indefensible space, before we finally arrive and see what's going on?

 

I imagine you are aware that All New Faded etc is an anagram for Fen'Harel dread wolf? I think the quest whatever its incongruencies aims to tell us something very fundamental about Solas and this is that he would never abandon a friend in need whatever his grandiose plans may be.

 

PS and you can henceforward call me Ms Fluffbunny Softiekins.

Modifié par Maria13, 16 février 2015 - 01:07 .