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@Siha and @ColonelKillabee: You asked for a nude Lavellan. YOU ARE GETTING AN ART HISTORY LESSON.

NSFW Lavellan if art history offends you.

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Gatsi has a great explanation of this piece for you:

 

When Inquisitor Lavellan liberated the slaves of Tevinter and made Dorian Pavus Archon, he commissioned a portrait of her and the head of her elite ancient elvhen forces, Abelas. It now hangs in glory at 20 feet in height in the grand hall of the Magisterium.
 
The Odalisque style was chosen by Lavellan herself specifically for the irony - odalisque paintings typically represent the lowest members of society on display for the spectator. Her choice highlights the paradox of Tevinter’s fall to an army led by the very race it subjugated for years and claimed to have destroyed. Moreover, it was a deliberate act to negate the claims that the Inquisitor/ Herald of Andraste was the sweet, virginal bride of the Maker in one fell swoop. 
 
As an art historian, I can state with absolute certainty this was meant as an incredibly unsubtle “**** you” to both her enemies and the Chantry cult that formed around her. Likewise, it was meant to crush any attempts at manipulating the Inquisitor into a political marriage after the war. If you can’t pick up on the reasons why, well, maybe you’re just blind.
 
——— Gatsi, 9:51 Dragon 

 

This is amazing. The colors look great. Look at the beautiful elves! The explanation is amazing. Art Historian Gatsi is my new favorite - 10/10 would take seminar again.


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I'm taking a break to share this quote, it seemed apropos to previously held apotheosis discussions. And I just like it. A lot.
 
"Myths are stories about people who become too big for their lives temporarily, so that they crash into other lives or brush against the Gods. In crisis, their souls are visible."
 
Ann Carson, from her essay "Tragedy: A Curious Art Form"--(it's about Euripides)

Nice and very appropriate.

I was going to say, for those who like Crusader Kings and that kind of dynastic politics, the European show Borgia (not the Showtime one, this is only on Netflix in the US) is very good. Gets better in later seasons.

The only thing I'm still trying to decide is whether Solas only becomes the dread wolf after the last battle. By this I mean was he an elf in the service of Fen'Harel and therefore had a lot of knowledge without actually knowing everything (like Felassen) so when he says he doesn't know certain facts, he is telling the truth? Or was he always the Dread Wolf from the beginning and thus constantly equivocating and evading in order to conceal the truth? I prefer the former explanation but suspect the latter.

I'm 99% sure it's the latter, and I only say 1% because you can never be totally sure of anything.

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NOOOO! He is and always will be the best Peter Parker. idegaf

He will NEVER be forgiven for Spiderman 3.  Let me paint you a picture.  A boring Friday night in college(a rarity).  My two friends and I drove an hour from the hickville town where my school was to the other hickville town with the closest theatre. We had heard "Hot Fuzz" was amazing.  You know what happened when we got there? They had cancelled it. For more Spiderman 3.  So we saw it...what a travesty. The horror only amplified when we finally got to see "Hot Fuzz".  HOW COULD THEY? 


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I....I miss my kitty....she lived well...

 

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RIP Buttons.

Are we sharing pictures of our pets now? Awesome!

 

This is my cat. She died a few days before Christmas a year ago. She was 17 years old. It still hurts. These are among the last pictures of her I took the summer before she died.

 

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I'm still haunted by the death of my dog over four years ago...

Pictures of him can be found on the website of the animal shelter I got him from when he was already ten years old. He lived another 4 years and 4 months:

http://www.tierheim-...hund-im-glueck/

 

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#75405
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He will NEVER be forgiven for Spiderman 3. Let me paint you a picture. A boring Friday night in college(a rarity). My two friends and I drove an hour from the hickville town where my school was to the other hickville town with the closest theatre. We had heard "Hot Fuzz" was amazing. You know what happened when we got there? They had cancelled it. For more Spiderman 3. So we saw it...what a travesty. The horror only amplified when we finally got to see "Hot Fuzz". HOW COULD THEY?


Oh that's kind of unforgiveable, I agree.

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I am kinda ... creeped out now.  My cat looks almost exactly like your cat.  She is 17 yrs old this year.  She's having kidney problems and I don't expect her to last much longer.

Oh, do you have pictures? I'm not surprised though. My cat was no fancy breed. I've seen a dozen cats who looked like her over the years. I got her together with her brother (striped with white legs) from one of my mom's clients, but we had to give him away because of our neighbors, they resented him messing up their garden...

 

My cat had kidney problems too but that wasn't what killed her. She had trouble breathing. X-rays revealed that her lugs were full of water, in fact her entire body was that way, the organs were barely visible anymore on the pictures. She was suffocating to death...

(Oh wait, that was caused by kidney failure, I think. Still, doesn't mean it always has to end that way.)

 

I had no idea, but knew she was dying because she didn't eat much anymore for weeks. She was so thin and slept all day.

I've seen so many pets die, I'm a bit traumatized by it all...

 

Best wishes for your cat. Cherish what little time you have left.



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Good MORRRRRRRRRRRRRNINGGGGGGGGGGG.

 

Some people have quite some nerve.

 

Again:

 

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Ok, I just got to the scene where Morrigan shows the Inquisitor the Crossroads and Morrigan says it is a basically a pocket within the Fade, which is why she theorizes that Cornflakes want to get in there. The Inquisitor notes (I think you have to be a mage, but I'm not sure) that the Crossroads is deteriorating. I am assuming that the elven gods are in a place of similar nature or in a place that is only accessible by the Crossroads. Either way when the Crossroads are gone there is no way to get the gods out or they will just die. This makes me think that there is some sort of time limit on Solas getting them out. Any thoughts?



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Some people have quite some nerve.

 

Again:

 

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I agree but I've had three cups of coffee, four cookies, one piece of chocolate and a 20 oz of coke. It's 9:35 a.m. 

 

 

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Ok, I just got to the scene where Morrigan shows the Inquisitor the Crossroads and Morrigan says it is a basically a pocket within the Fade, which is why she theorizes that Cornflakes want to get in there. The Inquisitor notes (I think you have to be a mage, but I'm not sure) that the Crossroads is deteriorating. I am assuming that the elven gods are in a place of similar nature or in a place that is only accessible by the Crossroads. Either way when the Crossroads are gone there is no way to get the gods out or they will just die. This makes me think that there is some sort of time limit on Solas getting them out. Any thoughts?

 

I thought the Inquisitor was just talking about how the Crossroads wasn't being maintained anymore ever since the elves stopped using them, not that the place was eroding or anything. Though that could be a possibility, especially if we consider blighted eluvians.



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This makes me think that there is some sort of time limit on Solas getting them out. Any thoughts?

 

A time limit would definitely be a potential reasoning for Solas to give the orb to Corypheus and take fairly risky actions. It seems pretty clear that he didn't intend to kill the elven gods. He trapped them to 'save' them. So if the trap was now threatening their lives, maybe he feels the only alternative is to release them and repeat the job all over again if they are still crazy.


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For everyone who lost a pet I feel for you. My mom had to put our last family dog down this past Friday and I was just heartbroken. He was pretty old and was suffering from lung cancer. I feel like my childhood is really done now.

Here is a picture of Tristan when he was younger.

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Ok, I just got to the scene where Morrigan shows the Inquisitor the Crossroads and Morrigan says it is a basically a pocket within the Fade, which is why she theorizes that Cornflakes want to get in there. The Inquisitor notes (I think you have to be a mage, but I'm not sure) that the Crossroads is deteriorating. I am assuming that the elven gods are in a place of similar nature or in a place that is only accessible by the Crossroads. Either way when the Crossroads are gone there is no way to get the gods out or they will just die. This makes me think that there is some sort of time limit on Solas getting them out. Any thoughts?

Hrmm.  I was always a bit confused by his urgency but that's a good point.  It may be more than just his overwhelming guilt, he may have to get them out now or lose the ability to do so completely.  I don't know if they will die. They sound like they'll be stuck in the nega-zone for eternity.  Kind of like Cloris Leachman's character in the seminal Olson twins film "double double toil and trouble". 



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For everyone who lost a pet I feel for you. My mom had to put our last family dog down this past Friday and I was just heartbroken. He was pretty old and was suffering from lung cancer. I feel like my childhood is really done now.

Here is a picture of Tristan when he was younger.

10176029_10152516324437202_1512518439660

 

What kind of dog was he? What a beauty.



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I thought the Inquisitor was just talking about how the Crossroads wasn't being maintained anymore ever since the elves stopped using them, not that the place was eroding or anything. Though that could be a possibility, especially if we consider blighted eluvians.

Btw now that you mention blighted eluvians...does this mean eluvians are alive as well?



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I agree but I've had three cups of coffee, four cookies, one piece of chocolate and a 20 oz of coke. It's 9:35 a.m. 

 

Siha wants cookie.

 

NOOOO! He is and always will be the best Peter Parker. idegaf

 

That does not actually contradict the "pathetic" label. I agree, he's made for being Peter Parker. As it is I just can't stand Peter Parker much. :ph34r: He has his moments, I guess, but he's got that one major flaw: he's not Batman.

 

I thought the Inquisitor was just talking about how the Crossroads wasn't being maintained anymore ever since the elves stopped using them, not that the place was eroding or anything. Though that could be a possibility, especially if we consider blighted eluvians.

 

Did they go on about the eroding part? I thought they just meant that the keys had been lost, so they couldn't be used anymore. Then again, jawsi said oyu needed to be a mage so maybe I just never heard that.

 

What do you think, why did Corypheus need to access the Fade/Crossroads at all? What did he need the old gods for? (Assuming he wanted to get to them.)



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A time limit would definitely be a potential reasoning for Solas to give the orb to Corypheus and take fairly risky actions. It seems pretty clear that he didn't intend to kill the elven gods. He trapped them to 'save' them. So if the trap was now threatening their lives, maybe he feels the only alternative is to release them and repeat the job all over again if they are still crazy.


Why did this speculation suddenly make me feel very anxious?

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Why did this speculation suddenly make me feel very anxious?

 

Probably because the likelihood of Solas derping into another catastrophe is extremely high. And the potential for the other elven gods to be future villains is also high. 

 

I am almost willing to bet money that Solas accidentally/intentionally releases one of them and this does not go well for anyone. 


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What kind of dog was he? What a beauty.

He was a Silken Wind Hound. It's basically a long-haired whippet. He was so sweet..a bit dumb, but so so sweet.


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Btw now that you mention blighted eluvians...does this mean eluvians are alive as well?

 

That's my theory, I posted about it earlier in the thread. Either the Eluvians are alive or a part of them is at least.



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*has panic attack*

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Probably because the likelihood of Solas derping into another catastrophe is extremely high. And the potential for the other elven gods to be future villains is also high. 

 

I am almost willing to bet money that Solas accidentally/intentionally releases one of them and this does not go well for anyone. 

 

*has panic attack*

 

Solas screws up...again??? What a surprise!!!!  --- things nobody has ever said


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Probably because the likelihood of Solas derping into another catastrophe is extremely high. And the potential for the other elven gods to be future villains is also high. 

 

I am almost willing to bet money that Solas accidentally/intentionally releases one of them and this does not go well for anyone. 

 

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Bioware actually pushed through with this idea... :(


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Solas screws up...again??? What a surprise!!!! --- things nobody has ever said


It's been said so many times, but for some reason when I read Alli's crossroads eroding speculation it filled me with utter dread.

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Siha wants cookie.

 

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