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I don't want the inquisitor back. She's a doormat to me. I liked my kind diplomatic Hawke best. Much better voice acting too. I was almost shocked how much I prefer femHawke when I saw her again in DAI. Of course she doesn't look anything like she did in DA2, but just that voice... made me all smiles and nostalgic.
 
Bioware should stick to the formula of introducing a new protagonist each game. Makes sense for Dragon Age. Comes at the expense of character development. But I prefer consistency.
 
Quite frankly, I don't care about any of the DA protagonists much though. It's the companions that get me emotionally invested.


Different player perspectives are always interesting. I'm a bit of the opposite . . . I connected much more with my Warden and Inquisitor than Hawke because Hawke felt more like Bioware's character than mine. I had more room to develop the other protagonists with my imagination. I'm a fiction writer, though, so that just ties into the way my brain works.

As for being attached to the NPC's, I am to an extent. To Solas, certainly, and Dorian, Cassandra, and Cole. But I've never been that interested in Morrigan or Leliana, the favored characters who get most of the narrative focus. So . . . for me, a lot is riding on this elven god plotline (and/or possible Tevinter stuff). I would have totally skipped playing DA2 if I hadn't liked DAI so much (and I'm glad I didn't, because DA2 was much better than I'd expected).
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I don't want the inquisitor back. She's a doormat to me. I liked my kind diplomatic Hawke best. Much better voice acting too. I was almost shocked how much I prefer femHawke when I saw her again in DAI. Of course she doesn't look anything like she did in DA2, but just that voice... made me all smiles and nostalgic.

 

I think with DA:I they were trying to respond to some of the complaints about Shepard in ME3 and Hawke in DA2.  Quizzy is generally more neutral in tone to prevent situations like, say, the fall of Thessia where Shep always responds really strongly even if the player feels it was out of place.  Of course, like the pre-VA games, that means it's up to the player to read into quizzy's words and fill in the blanks.  Honestly, I'm fine with the DA2 or DA:I approach toward the VAs; they each have strengths and weaknesses.

 

I'm one of those people who comes up with ridiculous detail for my PCs, though.  And I love all three of my PCs, but quizzy is quickly becoming my favorite.


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I don't want the inquisitor back. She's a doormat to me. I liked my kind diplomatic Hawke best. Much better voice acting too. I was almost shocked how much I prefer femHawke when I saw her again in DAI. Of course she doesn't look anything like she did in DA2, but just that voice... made me all smiles and nostalgic.

Bioware should stick to the formula of introducing a new protagonist each game. Makes sense for Dragon Age. Comes at the expense of character development. But I prefer consistency.

Quite frankly, I don't care about any of the DA protagonists much though. It's the companions that get me emotionally invested.


I am always kind of shocked that people ever played Hawke other than sarcastically. She is just everything amazing in this world.
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I think I could sacrifice my Inquisitor to have my Warden back...


Haha you and every single person in every single Bioware sucks! thread.

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I don't want the inquisitor back. She's a doormat to me. I liked my kind diplomatic Hawke best. Much better voice acting too. I was almost shocked how much I prefer femHawke when I saw her again in DAI. Of course she doesn't look anything like she did in DA2, but just that voice... made me all smiles and nostalgic.

 

Bioware should stick to the formula of introducing a new protagonist each game. Makes sense for Dragon Age. Comes at the expense of character development. But I prefer consistency.

 

Quite frankly, I don't care about any of the DA protagonists much though. It's the companions that get me emotionally invested.

 

I can't got back to my Hawke after Inquisition. I love Alix's voice acting too much (and I think it's better). XD

 

I love the Warden and the Inquisitor more because I got to build up their personality and background more than Hawke's. Hawke felt like BioWare's character - which, you know, is fine. That story needed to be told to build up to other events. But I couldn't build on anything other than personality. I still love my Hawkes, but yeah. XD

 

But I do agree that a new protagonist is preferred since that is the formula they started with. I love my Lavellan so much, and I'll miss her more than all the others, but I look forward to the companions the most as well as the romances.

 

 

Haha you and every single person in every single Bioware sucks! thread.

 

I actually don't care what happens to my Warden at this point. 


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I am always kind of shocked that people ever played Hawke other than sarcastically. She is just everything amazing in this world.

I can't stand sarcastic female Hawke :)



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Mh, I'm torn on this.
 

It's nice to get to know new characters. But with all this character jumping it feels (at least to me) that their stories never end. For example the Hero of Ferelden, I kinda miss her. I would like to play her again, but I know that is not going to happen, if anything she will just be an NPC in the next game the way Hawke was in DAI.

If they can resolve Solas' story in a DLC then maybe I would be okay with changing protagonist.. 
But I really doubt it can all be solved in just a DLC..? And I don't want them to rush everything. Witch Hunt was very short.. Unless it ends tragically so there is nothing to carry over (God no!) and they can just make a new character D:

And it's not just about the Inquisitor.. If the Inquisition ends up, what will happen to everyone? "And they all went their ways, and were never seen again"?
Maybe it's because the game is relatively new still, but I don't feel ready to say goodbye to the characters yet :(

Edit: ToP Suspicious/Creepy Solas :P

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I am always kind of shocked that people ever played Hawke other than sarcastically. She is just everything amazing in this world.

I personally tend to play fem!Hawke as diplomatic and dude!Hawke as sarcastic. The way Nicholas Boulton delivers some of those lines is just priceless.  :lol:


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I can't stand sarcastic female Hawke :)


I guess I shouldn't be suprised. I loved her because she said everything I was thinking. Sarcastic Hawke is me. But mostly I am a terrible person so I should not project that on other people. lol.
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I think with DA:I they were trying to respond to some of the complaints about Shepard in ME3 and Hawke in DA2.  Quizzy is generally more neutral in tone to prevent situations like, say, the fall of Thessia where Shep always responds really strongly even if the player feels it was out of place.  Of course, like the pre-VA games, that means it's up to the player to read into quizzy's words and fill in the blanks.  Honestly, I'm fine with the DA2 or DA:I approach toward the VAs; they each have strengths and weaknesses.

 

I'm one of those people who comes up with ridiculous detail for my PCs, though.  And I love all three of my PCs, but quizzy is quickly becoming my favorite.

My main issue with the Quizzy - and this was partially VA - is that she came off robotic at points when asking questions or talking about lore.   I know they were necessary so the player could actually get that information without having to read codexes but still...

 

RoboQuisitor 3000 - "What is a Mythal?"

RoboQuisitor 3000 - "Solas, why is the Fade?"

 

I do love my Quizzy most right now. Mostly because her personal history has gotten ridiculously detailed and out of control.  My Warden is in close second though.


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My main issue with the Quizzy - and this was partially VA - is that she came off robotic at points when asking questions or talking about lore. I know they were necessary so the player could actually get that information without having to read codexes but still...

RoboQuisitor 3000 - "What is a Mythal?"
RoboQuisitor 3000 - "Solas, why is the Fade?"

I do love my Quizzy most right now. Mostly because her personal history has gotten ridiculously detailed and out of control. My Warden is in close second though.

This I wholeheartedly agree with, and blame more than a little on VA. Alix fell flat for me compared to Jo.
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I guess I shouldn't be suprised. I loved her because she said everything I was thinking. Sarcastic Hawke is me. But mostly I am a terrible person so I should not project that on other people. lol.

There is no real Hawke but sarcastic Hawke. All the other Hawkes are imposters.

Never felt closer to any BW protagonist before or since (because there have been so many since).


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I think my Warden will always be my favorite, but I like my other PCs too.

 

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There is no real Hawke but sarcastic Hawke. All the other Hawkes are imposters.
Never felt closer to any BW protagonist before or since (because there have been so many since).


The reasons behind why we both love sarcastic Hawke should be fairly obvious by now.
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This I wholeheartedly agree with, and blame morw than a little on VA. Alix fell flat for me compared to Jo.

 

I absolutely love Alix Wilton Regan's voice acting. IMO she was pretty good at shouting in some scenes (intervening in Varric and Cassandra's dispute is the one that comes to mind, as well as the Coryflakes scene in Haven) and she pulls off the emotion in The Breakup really well. I was momentarily distracted by it and not quite as sad from it just because I noted how well she did. x) I can't imagine playing another F!Inquisitor without her, but I hate using the English accent for a character that isn't an elf. x) (Kind of weird since all elves seemed to be American in Origins at least, but there you go).

 

A bunch of editing because clearly I can't see spelling/grammar mistakes until I post.


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I thought Alix was great for dramatic/emotional scenes, but her questioning was pretty robotic. I don't prefer Jo over her or vice versa, though. I enjoyed them both.

As for my Warden . . . I kind of want Bioware to leave her alone, ha. She had all of Origins and Awakening devoted to her, and I have fought really hard to keep her romance with Alistair afloat. If people keep pushing Bioware to do more Warden stuff, I have a bad feeling she'll meet some tragic end.
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This I wholeheartedly agree with, and blame morw than a little on VA. Alix fell flat for me compared to Jo.

I'm normally all about Jo...very partial to the agent class in SWTOR because of it.  She's usually so on-point but I felt like when she showed up again here, she was a bit off.  Disappointed in her performance. 

 

Alix delivered amazingly when she had to act.  Like in The Thing. She sold that relationship for me just as much as GDL's performance did. She sounded so earnest in her affections.(same could be said for the Cullen-mance).  As more of a PC-avatar, she was just not as good as Jo was.  Jo sold a lot of the small lines and sort of embodied Hawke a lot better.



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Here for all solasmancers is my youtube account where I am doing solas romance and other stuff fan vids.. for those who have not seen and would like to see:

https://www.youtube....wCQ7qW1OTk_1Upw

I also do some videos by requests when I have time!!



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This I wholeheartedly agree with, and blame more than a little on VA. Alix fell flat for me compared to Jo.

 

 

My main issue with the Quizzy - and this was partially VA - is that she came off robotic at points when asking questions or talking about lore.   I know they were necessary so the player could actually get that information without having to read codexes but still...

 

RoboQuisitor 3000 - "What is a Mythal?"

RoboQuisitor 3000 - "Solas, why is the Fade?"

 

I do love my Quizzy most right now. Mostly because her personal history has gotten ridiculously detailed and out of control.  My Warden is in close second though.

 

This however may not be an issue with AWR herself more with the direction she was being given. If she was told to keep her voice as neutral as possible then of course it’s going to come across as dull and lifeless.


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I can't stand sarcastic female Hawke :)

Though I never played female hawke, sarcastic hawke was deliciously cheesy. Expectations of being the champion of kirkwall and finding out their deeds do not embody their personality. Sometimes it's cringing but it makes them out as a dork.


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I'm normally all about Jo...very partial to the agent class in SWTOR because of it. She's usually so on-point but I felt like when she showed up again here, she was a bit off. Disappointed in her performance.

Alix delivered amazingly when she had to act. Like in The Thing. She sold that relationship for me just as much as GDL's performance did. She sounded so earnest in her affections.(same could be said for the Cullen-mance). As more of a PC-avatar, she was just not as good as Jo was. Jo sold a lot of the small lines and sort of embodied Hawke a lot better.


I'm disappointed Hawke wasn't very...sarcastic. I don't know if it was Jo or the lines. Probably both.

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I'm normally all about Jo...very partial to the agent class in SWTOR because of it.  She's usually so on-point but I felt like when she showed up again here, she was a bit off.  Disappointed in her performance. 

 

Alix delivered amazingly when she had to act.  Like in The Thing. She sold that relationship for me just as much as GDL's performance did. She sounded so earnest in her affections.(same could be said for the Cullen-mance).  As more of a PC-avatar, she was just not as good as Jo was.  Jo sold a lot of the small lines and sort of embodied Hawke a lot better.

I haven't a clue how I got this far without realizing my agent had the same voice as Hawke.  :ph34r: I was pretty wrapped up with Vector at the time, but still.


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I guess I shouldn't be suprised. I loved her because she said everything I was thinking. Sarcastic Hawke is me. But mostly I am a terrible person so I should not project that on other people. lol.

I have never thought that any of my PCs are like me. Usually I can relate to them quite well maybe because they have some of my personality traits and some have more than others. However I'm not sure how much it affects that english is not my native language.



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This however may not be an issue with AWR herself more with the direction she was being given. If she was told to keep her voice as neutral as possible then of course it’s going to come across as dull and lifeless.

 

I think this is probably what happened, she shows herself very capable with other lines so the direction was probably to have no inflection on the questions so the player can ask them in any order and they work for different origins and POVs.  



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I'm disappointed Hawke wasn't very...sarcastic. I don't know if it was Jo or the lines. Probably both.

 

For a while I thought I accidentally picked Diplomatic. :\

 

 

I think this is probably what happened, she shows herself very capable with other lines so the direction was probably to have no inflection on the questions so the player can ask them in any order and they work for different origins and POVs.  

 

 

BioWare did say they wanted to keep "neutral" dialogue options...well...neutral. But she did deliver when there was emotion involved, which I loved.


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