Gaider said that the scene in question had to do with the envy demon questline and had NOTHING to do with any of the romances or any LI scenes. IIRC, it had something to do with being able to flirt with Leliana, but then finding out that she wasn't Leliana, or something to that effect. It was on Gaider's tumblr but since he's taken that down I can't find the post for the exact details.
Don't you ever do that. First thing I remember you saying to me was "No."
And don't you ever dare change.
If it's you're talking about the scene Gaider talked about before the game came out, it's nothing to do with Solas. It refers to an older version of Champions of the Just.
Yep you and Zambixi are correct. Champions of the Just in it's first version played out completely different. You were tricked into thinking you were successful and Leliana was actually the Envy demon. You are able to attempt to seduce her, and can be successful in said seduction. It brought about all kinds of ickiness on Leliana's behalf. They ended up scrapping it entirely and changing direction. I am totally paraphrasing what Gaider said about it.
Season 6 was my favourite season because Buffy was very, very clear that she would have been happier dead, that was her true perfection, her pinnacle... Everything else after that was always going to be stale... Including the affair with Spike... Which was great and dark in its way...
I don't mind some tragedy for characters but I'm a sucker for one of those Care Bear, happy Disney endings. No sadness! Just happy!
Yep you and Zambixi are correct. Champions of the Just in it's first version played out completely different. You were tricked into thinking you were successful and Leliana was actually the Envy demon. You are able to attempt to seduce her, and can be successful in said seduction. It brought about all kinds of ickiness on Leliana's behalf. They ended up scrapping it entirely and changing direction. I am totally paraphrasing what Gaider said about it.
*points to a few posts above*
ninja'd you.
Welcome to the thread!
Have some pre-emptive cuddles, you'll need them once you've gotten through the Solas romance:
And now you have made me feel horribly, horribly guilty for all of those cute fennecs I've accidentally killed in DAI. *sobs*
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I think it goes without saying, with where I'm posting, who it is I plan to romance. He wasn't my original plan, actually. I had intended to go with Cullen as my first playthrough. But, well... I heard some things about him, investigated his character, accidentally learned a few spoilers, and then...it was all downhill from there. He's stolen Alistair's place as my favorite video game love interest, and I haven't even played the game yet... Goodness, I'm ridiculous. Sorry. Rambling is a habit of mine.
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First of all, welcome!
Second, I think Solas was a major surprise for a lot of people. I've probably said it already, but when I saw Solas for the first time (on AJS' review of the game) my reaction was pretty much, "Really? A bald elf? Oooookay!"
I created an elf myself and decided I was either romancing Cullen or Sera, but when I saw the flirt options for Solas I said, "Alright, let's see what you've got", the first flirt banter got me interested, and same as you I did some research and spoiled myself to what happens. I decided I wanted some tragic drama, and after coming from awesome romances like Alister and Garrus from ME, I was ready for something that wouldn't end so well. Solasmancing has flew straight passed Alister's, and I'm still debating whether or not it's better (in terms of story) than Garrus' romance.
Just a fair warning, you may think you'll be okay because you know what to expect, but... you won't be. x)
Welcome again!
I was active back when the game first came out and haven't been able to get back to the thread until just now, basically. The people I used to chat with are gone and it definitely doesn't feel like I'm part of the group anymore. The atmosphere has changed. But what can you do? Best thing is to make new friends with the new people and spread the Solas joy
I thought about that too, and Solas' situation would go beyond that if he was actually able to control Lavellan, which hasn't been confirmed yet.
That's why a lot of people think what he said in the fade was true. That it wasn't right, and that this was wrong. Though it could be a lot of things.
And like I said, the devs mentioned they skipped out on a scene because they thought it would be taken very negatively.
WHAAAAAA!!!! Did the devs mention what KIND of scene... 
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ninja'd you.
You bugger! I need to type faster. Or makes less mistakes I have to correct before I post. Orrrr I should just not care about said mistakes! 
Welcome to the thread!
Have some pre-emptive cuddles, you'll need them once you've gotten through the Solas romance:
Aww, thank you! See, this is what I mean. You're all so darn friendly, I love it. *Whispers* Some forums look absolutely terrifying. It makes me glad that there are ones like this.
Gaider said that the scene in question had to do with the envy demon questline and had NOTHING to do with any of the romances or any LI scenes. IIRC, it had something to do with being able to flirt with Leliana, but then finding out that she wasn't Leliana, or something to that effect. It was on Gaider's tumblr but since he's taken that down I can't find the post for the exact details.
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If it's you're talking about the scene Gaider talked about before the game came out, it's nothing to do with Solas. It refers to an older version of Champions of the Just.
I wasn't, I'm pretty sure the mention was about Solas specifically, but since I can't pull up the comment, as I don't know where it is, it doesn't really matter.
My point though is the same, in reference to Solas' possible influence over your mind trumping Blackwall's deception by a mile. And as _Lucinia said, you get to approach and talk to Blackwall about it. You never get that chance with Solas.
Again, stating my opinion, not saying anyone is factually wrong.
Hehehe, that's the one
He seemed like a pushover from what I remember of that show... saw it a loong time ago. No offense, but it was mainly because it was the only decent thing on early in the morning, and I'm always an early riser
Did you know FF was born thanks to Buffy? A true classic.
Guys, how exactly does it work with the beta? I "signed up" yesterday and it says it may take 24 hrs etc, well they have passed, but I can't access the post linked on the thread.
How do you know if you are successful? Was I supposed to receive an email? And since I didn't get it it means I didn't get in?
Anybody got in and cares to clarify?
In my case, the beta appeared in Origin so I could download it, like... 5-10 minutes ago? I didn't even get email confirmation I was in, just the download option.
Did you know FF was born thanks to Buffy? A true classic.
Oh I know. I remember a family friend - back when it first came on the scene - furiously writing Drusilla/Spike FF. It was appropriately sexy and gothy. She was so excited she had a place to post it. I MISS 90'S ERA INTERNET.
Did you know FF was born thanks to Buffy? A true classic.
The whole website started from buffy fanfics? No lol I had no idea
I'm sure people would be happy to see any art you produce or writings you write! I love seeing all the drawings, particularly from people who say they don't draw much otherwise. I know people can get a bit self conscious about technical skills and all that- but it is so cool to see people like something so much that they express it through art! That is what art is there for.
Thank you! That means a lot. I definitely intend to do something at some point. It's just a matter of actually doing it. Procrastination is such a meanie. But I will try! I shall. I really want to do something.
First of all, welcome!
Second, I think Solas was a major surprise for a lot of people. I've probably said it already, but when I saw Solas for the first time (on AJS' review of the game) my reaction was pretty much, "Really? A bald elf? Oooookay!"
I created an elf myself and decided I was either romancing Cullen or Sera, but when I saw the flirt options for Solas I said, "Alright, let's see what you've got", the first flirt banter got me interested, and same as you I did some research and spoiled myself to what happens. I decided I wanted some tragic drama, and after coming from awesome romances like Alister and Garrus from ME, I was ready for something that wouldn't end so well. Solasmancing has flew straight passed Alister's, and I'm still debating whether or not it's better (in terms of story) than Garrus' romance.
Just a fair warning, you may think you'll be okay because you know what to expect, but... you won't be. x)
Welcome again!
Thank you for the welcome! Goodness, my replies are going to be so slow while I get used to the forum. It moves fast. But I like that about it. It's active. Activity is fantastic.
Oh, I know I won't be okay. No matter how much feel-inducing things I experience, I have yet to build up adequate protection against it. I've just resigned myself to the fate of forever being emotionally wrecked by characters. I wouldn't have it any other way, though. That's part of what makes them so lovable!
Throwing my input on the current debate, I'm glad it was left to us to decide whether Solas and Levallan do bunk. Personally, I prefer to think they do, but sex scenes in video games make me feel terribly uncomfortable. It usually looks awkward as hell, and while it might look hot to some all I can think of is some poor bugger had to sit there and animate it. It's part of what drew me to the Garrus romance, knowing he gets a fade to black and nothing else, and I appreciate they did the same for Inquisition's romances. I still have to hide my face on the Origins scenes.
Kiss scenes, on the other hand, never bother me. Clever camera angles are a treasure. ^^
The whole website started from buffy fanfics? No lol I had no idea
Silly me, I saw FF and immediately went "wait a second, Firefly is also Whedon, but I don't see how it's because of Buffy specifically."
OOHHHH Fan Fiction. Heh.
Guest_Faerunner_*
There was never any commentary from a writer/dev about avoiding a romance scene with Solas. His writer just wanted that to be left up to the player. Possibly he didn't want people to feel uncomfortable if there was a definite scene and then Solas did his Thing. Or keeping it ambiguous allows asexuals to have a romance and not feel the pressure of a sex scene. I'm glad they left it so either way, because while I'm sure my Lavellan was enjoying side benefits with Solas it didn't feel necessary to the romance. If Solas and another Lavellan just never approached a physically intimate relationship, it wouldn't have lessened the emotional and spiritual impact of the relationship.
*wipes tear* That entire post was beautiful. =')
On the bolded, I was actually just talking about this with a friend the other day. It can feel a little alienating for asexuals that enjoy BioWare/video game romances but resent the forced sex scenes. (Much like in real life. Asexuals make up only an estimated 1% of the population, so the odds of us finding another asexual or demisexual who is romantically compatible in terms of personality, life goals, moral values, personal beliefs, etc. is very low, so we kind of have to turn to the sexual crowd for romantic attachment, which causes guessable frustrations.)
Not for nothing Solas has a sizable asexual fanbase (self included), since here's a romance where asexuals can enjoy fantasizing about a sweet romantic relationship without a mandatory sex scene (*cough* all DA2 romances sans Sebastian), or feel like our characters were eventually pressured to have sex to placate their partner. (Yeah, you can politely turn down Dorian or the DAO companion who invites you into their tent, but they're pretty disappointed, so you know your character will have to give in eventually. While all relationships require compromise, many romantic asexuals deal with it enough in real life they don't necessarily like having to deal with it in their romantic fantasies.)
The whole website started from buffy fanfics? No lol I had no idea
So did TV Tropes.
Crazy nekkid dancing around the statue of an old elven god? I'm in.
*rams the banner of Team Lipgloss into the ground*
*gives everyone fresh lipgloss*
*starts to do the wyvern mating dance*
Wait wait wait. Naked dancing?
Well, if you insist.
So did TV Tropes.
Wow I thought tv tropes would have started from comics and anime, since that's what I see referenced here so often from people on forums.
There is a tiny bit of duality with Flemythal. Flemeth seems to be the primary personality. She refers to Mythal as "she" and "her" when talking to the Quiz in the Fade. If Mythal were the dominant personality, I imagine she'd be referring to Flemeth as "she" and "her" when talking about when they were separate. Whether this is intentional, or a quirk of the story (Flemeth is dominant because we know her, and it would be confusing if suddenly she switched to being Mythal-dominant), I can't say and it doesn't really matter. I do think one of the reasons Flemythal are so inseparable is because they had similar goals and personalities. Whereas Anders and Justice were not quite aligned in ideals and thus could not completely join.
SO if Solas and Mythal are sharing souls and not just power, I think we'll see something more like the Anders/Justice situation.
Frankly, though, I think Anders/Justice exhausted that particular narrative theme. We've discussed here whether once upon a time Fen 'Harel merged with a Solas or whether FH and Solas have always been the same person. To me, that really doesn't matter because when we meet him he is one and the same and I pretty much believe he will continue to be like that until... Whatever happens, happens... They have taken too much care to build up his personality, I think it would be wholly counterproductive to undermine that.
Wow I thought tv tropes would have started from comics and anime, since that's what I see referenced here so often from people on forums.
Urgh, don't talk to me about TV Tropes, I'll find myself still sitting my computer 7 hours later wondering what happened to my life. T_T
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