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[panamakira]

It means that if he wants to see the girl again, kill the other daughter so there's another funeral and he'll see her again. 

Ahh lol. This dude. I probably shouldn't find it funny. Gracias!

[phaonica]

re: Fadewalking physically

 

Does that mean Feynriel learned how to do that after we helped him in DA2? Or did he just portal himself out of dreaming and back into his regular body? The dialogue at the end of the quest when talking to Arianni/Marethari suggests that he physically disappeared if you let him leave.

 

Maybe it's more.. where the sleeping mind travels, the body will follow (teleport to the relevant physical location) after it awakens? That could be a weird loophole, but I'm pretty sure Gaider or Weekes or someone said that there is no way to teleport via magic in this setting.

 

Ferynriel doesn't go to the Raw Fade, though, does he? I thought he was just lucid in the Dream Fade.

[Colonelkillabee]

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if he was lying via creative phrasing.  I am probably remembering some of the dialogue wrong.  Wasn't it said something about "why this particular part of the fade?" and then he said his line about never being their physically?  So assuming he's lying, he's being truthful in that he's never physically been in this specific part of the fade?  If I am remembering the dialogue incorrectly just completely disregard me! 

The implication for me is for all the body switching talk. That fenharel might've had a different body once. (very long time ago of course).

[phaonica]

I think I'm the only person here who thinks Solas straight up lies about things. Not everything. But lots of things. He might feel guilty about it but he's still a lying liar who lies. Still want to bang.

 

Same.

[RogueBait]

Ha! This was me too. I only got the nerve up today because I'm wearing my dread wolf Tshirt. Tower power!

 

I wonder if when they'll release The Hierophant version. I've been camping the store for that for months, hoping. I'd buy The Hermit version, too. And then Solas could be on my boobs 3/7 days of the week.

 

C'mon Bioware, release the t-shirts. Let me give you more money.

[Taelaa]

I'm not too worried about spoilers, honestly. I've ruined enough for myself already. I did the same with Doctor Who, and Sherlock, and KotOR... I've done it with a lot of things, and I'm used to it. Besides... I get the advantage of being a bit more prepared for emotional trauma. xD

 

Oh honey, no...nothing can prepare you for the emotional trauma of Solas leaving you. I knew going into my second playthrough all about the zinger after the credits and the breakup and none of that prepared me for the gaping hole he left. Fortunately we have the blanket fort and you are welcome.

[Avejajed]

Same.

Finalllly.

[_Lucinia]

Solas and his "the faaaaaade" makes me think of Dalish in the Chargers and her "it's a booooooooow".

[Vorathrad]

You're the only other person I've heard of who listens to all of those bands.   

 

I listen to Faun, too

[Cecilia]

By the way this reminds me. I never really understood Fen'Harel's answer in this story. Would someone care to shed the light on this one?

 

Oh this is actually Bioware stealing an old riddle.

 

The original goes: A woman meets a man at her mother's funeral and she falls in love with him, but knows nothing else about him. Two weeks later, she kills her sister. Why?

 

Explanation under spoiler

 

Spoiler

So she could see the man again. The one known quantity here about the person you meet at the funeral is that you know they will attend the funeral of a member of your family, so the most certain course of action you have given complete lack of any other means through which to divine their identity is to replicate the circumstances of the original encounter

 

/Edit I really love riddles/stories with holes so I know a lot of really twisted dark stuff like this haha~ there's also the seaweed in the lake one and the blind man on a train one fufufu

[Elira]

Oh honey, no...nothing can prepare you for the emotional trauma of Solas leaving you. I knew going into my second playthrough all about the zinger after the credits and the breakup and none of that prepared me for the gaping hole he left. Fortunately we have the blanket fort and you are welcome.

 

Oh, I didn't mean I'd be wholly prepared. Just a teeny weeny, itty bitty bit. Then again, it's quite likely I'm being overly optimistic and I won't even be that. From what I've witnessed, there really is no way to prepare oneself for Solas' hellspiral. Onward to emotional trauma, heartache, and tears, then. I shall face it head on! ...and then break. Horribly. I'm even more thankful for the blanket fort now.

[Avejajed]

Oh, I didn't mean I'd be wholly prepared. Just a teeny weeny, itty bitty bit. Then again, it's quite likely I'm being overly optimistic and I won't even be that. From what I've witnessed, there really is no way to prepare oneself for Solas' hellspiral. Onward to emotional trauma, heartache, and tears, then. I shall face it head on! ...and then break. Horribly. I'm even more thankful for the blanket fort now.

I was totally spoiled for it, romanced Cullen twice, and took two months to get around to going to the Arbor wilds With my Lavellan. Basically sobbed all night.

[_Lucinia]

Oh, I didn't mean I'd be wholly prepared. Just a teeny weeny, itty bitty bit. Then again, it's quite likely I'm being overly optimistic and I won't even be that. From what I've witnessed, there really is no way to prepare oneself for Solas' hellspiral. Onward to emotional trauma, heartache, and tears, then. I shall face it head on! ...and then break. Horribly. I'm even more thankful for the blanket fort now.

I envy you a bit that you can brace yourself before it happens because you know.  I went into it spoiler free.  Oh boy I was a mess.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Oh honey, no...nothing can prepare you for the emotional trauma of Solas leaving you. I knew going into my second playthrough all about the zinger after the credits and the breakup and none of that prepared me for the gaping hole he left. Fortunately we have the blanket fort and you are welcome.

 

Yeah, spoilers are only an emotional anesthetic up to a point.  Being spoiled for Solas leaving was like trying to take OTC painkillers for breaking a bone.  Still so, so very painful.

 

On an unrelated note, I'm pleasantly surprised by all the little differences I'm seeing between my Lavellan playthrough and my current Adaar playthrough.  Both characters were very friendly with Solas, but the friendship dynamic is so different from the romance one, and there's a surprising amount of warmth and complexity to it.  Solas and my Adaar are really different people, but still capable of having tons of respect for each other.

 

Even when I pick dialogues that disagree with Solas, as long as Adaar isn't an ass I only get "slightly disapproves," and some of their arguments are fascinating. Though Adaar did pull a purple!Hawke and say "Well...sh*t!" like an idiot after Wisdom died.  I'm still kind of surprised I didn't get an approval ding for that 

[Caddius]

Because I find it hard to believe a couple that plays grab ass and talks about "side benefits" isn't doing the mattress tango... that's why for me personally, it's naive.

 

 

*cough* I find it quite easy to believe.   Just because you're too shy and gentlemanly to do that before treating them to a 'dance' doesn't mean everyone else is.

I mean for Mythal's sake, I was friends with a Mormon who kept to the 'not before marriage' thing, but didn't exactly keep his hands to himself.

...to be clear, the Mormon was an actual friend. I have not been groped by Mormons.* 

So my dear Colonel, just as you think a lot of the 'Solas and Lavellan did not make make the elf with two backs' crowd are projecting their own values, you're doing the same thing.

Which is exactly what Weekes intended.

As for the 'Bioware pulling their punches', to some extent, I'd agree.

But when it comes to lovers lying about who they are and taking advantage, Blackwall does sleep with the Inquisitor, and then leave them naked in the barn in the morning while he goes off to his execution, yes?

 

*Okay that's a lie but he was dared to at a dance.**

**While no actor, a lot of my friends are. 

[Avejajed]

Do I want to kill bears tonight or attempt mp?

[Elira]

I was totally spoiled for it, romanced Cullen twice, and took two months to get around to going to the Arbor wilds With my Lavellan. Basically sobbed all night.

 

Welp, then I'm doomed. I'm going to be a puddle of tears, agonized feels, and a hurt broken  heart. ...But Solas is worth it. ....Right? I don't think I'll be able to regret loving the egghead, despite the possibility of a bad, bad ending that I refuse to believe in. Team Optimism, I commit to you with all my being. 

[electricfish]

I envy you a bit that you can brace yourself before it happens because you know.  I went into it spoiler free.  Oh boy I was a mess.

 

That was me. Even though I finished the game with a character (nonromanced), I tried to spam Esc to get through the credits, then abandoned it partway through because it wasn't working. So I missed the important part and got to see that on the second playthrough where I did romance Solas.

[phaonica]

I knew about the breakup going in, and I almost never replay choices to "get it just right" ... and yet there I was playing it over and over, trying to get it right.

I finally settled on the choices I had made the first time, going on instinct.

 

I didn't get super emotionally invested in it, but I definitely was more moved than I expected to be.

[Avejajed]

*cough* I find it quite easy to believe. Just because you're too shy and gentlemanly to do that before treating them to a 'dance' doesn't mean everyone else is.
I mean for Mythal's sake, I was friends with a Mormon who kept to the 'not before marriage' thing, but didn't exactly keep his hands to himself.
...to be clear, the Mormon was an actual friend. I have not been groped by Mormons.*
So my dear Colonel, just as you think a lot of the 'Solas and Lavellan did not make make the elf with two backs' crowd are projecting their own values, you're doing the same thing.
Which is exactly what Weekes intended.
As for the 'Bioware pulling their punches', to some extent, I'd agree.
But when it comes to lovers lying about who they are and taking advantage, Blackwall does sleep with the Inquisitor, and then leave them naked in the barn in the morning while he goes off to his execution, yes?

*Okay that's a lie but he was dared to at a dance.**
**While no actor, a lot of my friends are.

Awww I missed you and your reasonableness today! Xox

[Vorathrad]

I envy you a bit that you can brace yourself before it happens because you know.  I went into it spoiler free.  Oh boy I was a mess.

 

I'm thankful I knew about this thread and had read everything about the romance, if it had been my first playthrough... I'd probably have one ps4 and one bf less.

 

And still, that delivery, and my poor Lavellan's face... ok I don't want to frighten you, enjoy your romance! 

[Avejajed]

Welp, then I'm doomed. I'm going to be a puddle of tears, agonized feels, and a hurt broken heart. ...But Solas is worth it. ....Right? I don't think I'll be able to regret loving the egghead, despite the possibility of a bad, bad ending that I refuse to believe in. Team Optimism, I commit to you with all my being.

Worth every second, though I'm glad i got Cullen romanced before Solas.

[faeofthefellwood]

I'm a few pages late to the Solas/Lavellan intimacy conversation, but I really appreciated that it was left ambiguous. Another demisexual here (I didn't even know there was a term for this until last month). Even though I headcanon that my Lavellan and Solas did have sex (she thought she might die at any time, so might as well, ha), I really appreciated it being left to the player. I'm all for more asexual and demisexual-friendly romances in the future.

[RogueBait]

Here's a random Solavellan playlist contribution that makes me think of an angry, post break-up Lavellan every time.

 

"Careless" - Royal Blood:

Spoiler

 

Lyrics:

Spoiler

I'm tired of kidding myself

Another pill, no good for my health

I wish I could make this disappear

So I sit and smoke on my own

Think about you baby, are you feeling alone?

Cause I'd die just thinking that you'd forget

But I guess you won't

 

I wish I cared less, but I'm afraid I don't

You couldn't care less, so I guess you won't

Change your mind again

 

I can't stop dreaming of you

It does me no good and it's turning into

A splinter that I can't find under my skin

So I'll make another hole in the wall

Think about the times I didn't love you at all

Cause I just can't make myself again

So I guess I won't

 

I wish I cared less, but I'm afraid I don't

You couldn't care less, so I guess you won't

Change your mind again

 

I've tried to right myself

But our love came crashing down

Like a tidal wave, a tidal wave

I'm fighting with my hands

And I hope you know we're digging our own graves

For your mistakes

 

I wish I cared less, but I'm afraid I don't

You couldn't care less, so I guess you won't

Change your mind again

 

I've tried to right myself

But our love came crashing down like a tidal wave

I'm fighting with my hands

And I hope you know we're digging our own graves

 

 

[Sable Rhapsody]

Welp, then I'm doomed. I'm going to be a puddle of tears, agonized feels, and a hurt broken  heart. ...But Solas is worth it. ....Right? I don't think I'll be able to regret loving the egghead, despite the possibility of a bad, bad ending that I refuse to believe in. Team Optimism, I commit to you with all my being.

 
*waves Team Optimism flag*
 
Join us brothers and sisters. Join us in the sunshine where we merrily frolic. Join us as we carry the standard of joy and happiness. And should you despair, know that there is hot chocolate. And that one day, we shall join you in the blanket fort."