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[Delphine]

 

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About Briala/Celene/Gaspard, I chose to make Celene & Briala rule together, reunited.

Keep in mind that the three of them are complete sorry excuses for human beings, and that you're not choosing someone to trust or like, because they can't be, but rather, the lesser "evil" towards your long term goal.

Having role-played as an elf mage, Gaspard was just a complete no-no choice for me. The guy seemed racist, arrogant, power hungry, and eager to declare war and conquer new kingdoms. I couldn't just let him on the throne, given that my long-term goal was more freedom for mages and elves, and he certainly wouldn't have made any decisions towards that.

Putting him on the throne with Briala as a puppet master, was a no-no choice as well, as Gaspard being blackmailed by Briala can only work for some time, until Gaspard finds a way to get rid of her, and cast a public shadow on her, and all improvements for elves would then go back down to hell.

Celene alone on the thrown would have worked, and I had it on my first playthrough, but not progressive enough for me.

In the end, I like the Celene+Briala, because Briala is given a noble title, which is a total first for an elf, and has proper status at the court, but Celene is here to maintain a certain power, reassuring those afraid of Briala's decisions.

On my epilogue, it stated that it worked pretty well, and that mages and elves were granted unprecedented freedom and acceptance toward Thedas, so I was quite pleased about that. Though, how long will it ever last, I do not know.

 

I don't remember Solas disapproving my choice to reunite Celene & Briala, so I can't comment on that. Whatever it was, it wasn't enough for him to dislike me, and he never brought it up.

 

I chose to play Rift Mage, because I'm a DPS type of person, and I enjoyed it a lot. Solas commented on it by being pleased someone was taking the same specialization as him. Nothing else to mention, though, or maybe I've forgotten.

 

And about Customization, except for lip shine down to 0, I guess do whatever you feel most comfortable with. You can't quite predict what differences it'll make once ingame, so I guess it's mostly a matter of creating a char, load game, see how they look ingame, and if not pleased recreate another char.

On my first quizzie, I was mostly disappointed at the mouth, and how some words were distorting her lower face to the point of ridiculousness. But I managed to fix it on my second and third quizzie.

[Colonelkillabee]

I really wish mage had been an option for Dalish characters in DAO.  I've used the Dalish Mage Mod but it just never feels right and I can't get into the playthrough.

I never knew you couldn't be a dalish mage... wtf.

[BoscoBread]

 

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1. Wicked Hearts - Probably the most stable choice for Orlais is reunion between Briala/Celene and Gaspard's execution.  HOWEVER,  Orlais sucks so it depends on whether or not you should care if they are stable.  I personally think Briala is a just the worst- admirable goals but just terrible at the execution. Celene is worthless on her own.  My close second is Gaspard ruling alone but I don't know how that plays out for Ferelden/Orlais in the long run.  Solas greatly approves of the reunion. He mostly approves of all the peaceful options, mostly because he admires if you can take someone(Florianne) down by beating them at their own game...non-violently.  I wouldn't worry about pleasing Solas.  You more than make up for it by being a decent person out in the world and doing his side-quests. I mean if you ****** him off on every major quest...then I think you're donezo but if you recruit the wardens and drink from the well, I still think you'll be fine.  I know a fair few people on here did that and all was well.  As long as you've done the balcony scene the relationship is pretty much on course.

 

2. He comments on all mage specializations.  I prefer the rift mage spec because ranged, but KE is practically a tank.   I do miss the true Arcane Warrior from DA:O, though.

 

3. The lighting they used in the CC is terribly inaccurate for most of the game. So you won't get a true sense of what your gal/guy looks like until you're through the prison scene.  Lip shine is wonky - turn it down to almost zero.  I would default to getting rid of all make up - under eye, eye liner, turn down lip color and just adjust it how you want it. Definitely turn down the intensity of your vallaslin just to see what they look like without it...since Solas may remove it for you.  This way you get a sense of what they'll look like without it. 

[scintilla]

 

All right, so... I have a few questions concerning, for the most part, Solas. 

 

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I don't recall him disapproving of any set up. I made them work together my first playthrough, which is fine in the short term but not good for Orlais in the long run. For stability's sake, either Gaspard or Celene has to go. I like Celene better. Gaspard starts more fights after coming out of a brutal civil war and the fight with Corypheus's forces. It's not good for the people. Which may be how you want to play things if you hate Orlais.    As someone noted earlier, however, choosing to reunite Celene and Briala means your Lavellan won't get a dialogue with Solas. So that may factor into your decision. (Unless the reason they got it on their human is a bug fix in one of the patches?)

 

There is one specific dialogue that's Rift Mage only in his second personal quest, All New, Faded for Her. You can take the Arcane Knowledge perk and get a different option there too but that's the only place specialization changes things. I went Rift Mage, it suited my play style much, much better and having two Rift Mages wasn't a problem for me. (minor edit: I don't know if this bug is still around but for a lot of people, he won't comment on spec unless you get your specialization before doing All New.)

 

I think the make up question has been answered pretty well. I'd just note that despite BioWare's claims to trying to give us decent lighting for the CC, they didn't and you will probably make mistakes. I wanted to have a character with the reddest of red lips (but not clownishly so) and I had to set the color all the way up to get it (I set it down at first, thinking the colors would be as intense as the eye makeup or the blush but they aren't - so the point here is that eye and blush make up will be darker than you think but lip makeup is weird).

[Siha]

All right, so... I have a few questions concerning, for the most part, Solas.

 

1. He approves of Briala, whatever you do. He will like if you boost her. It's not about that, it's about the killing of Celene. He will especially approve if you stop the Duchess instead of letting her attack. I am not sure you actually net disapproval for letting her die though.

However, Avejajed is right. Besides you can never put her in charge alone, only with G. in the front. I pick Gaspard because (1) Celene has clearly failed; she might be skilled at the game but she has started a war over a family feud and that has to end; (2) Briala I don't trust; she betrays anyone to further her goals and history has shown where that leads; (3) Gaspard might be a brute but he is the most honest of the lot; you will buy as seen.

 

2. You do get a rift mage dialogue with Solas, I do not know about KE. I prefer rift as support (I do not play mages, only played half a run with a rift mag) because Pull of the Abyss is badass and spirit is the only power every foe in DAI is vulverable to. I know little of KE.

 

3. Yes, CC looks different from in game but I cannot pinpoint. I just uploaded a few screenshots if you care to see the difference. It also looks different from scene to scene. It is really difficult to say for me.

 

4. In general: It is fairly easy to get on Solas' good side. I even did everything to annoy him on purpose after having started the romance; he just would not dump me. Do what you wish and just gather approval in dialogues (he likes if you ask questions but not question him). That + flirting is enough to get him. Just... stay away from Blackwall. His romance will lock in if you flirt with him on the battlements in Skyhold and you can't get rid of the guy anymore till the next cutscene. If you are locked in on someone else you may not speak with Solas. Because that would kill your romance. Break up with the other one first and then speak to Solas, this way you keep your chances open.

[vertigomez]

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Oooh, that's lovely.

[Riot Inducer]

I think I'll probably roll with Knight Enchanter, then, because I fully intend to drag Solas with my everywhere. Along with Cole. And I'll probably alternate between Dorian, Varric, and Cassandra. *Grumbles about companion limit.* I get why they do it, and I don't want them to change the limit because of those reasons. But...but... I want to take everybody with me!

That's what I did with my first character, although my choice of Knight Enchanter was more to do with my disgust that the other two specializations weren't specializations in my eye, just a collection of spells from previous games they couldn't or didn't want to fit into the regular skill trees. But I digress.

 

KE is an amazing spec though, gives you massive tactical freedom, you can go full on battlemage and get in the thick of things with the warriors or hang back and be a standard spell slinger when it requires it. Also Solas quite approves of Knight Enchanter all in all, and as Lavellan  you can even comment that you think the ancient Arcane Warriors would be glad to see one of their ancestors continuing their discipline, and Solas agrees.

[Illyria]

I never knew you couldn't be a dalish mage... wtf.

 

There's a mod but for some reason all the mage dialouge is connected to the Circle Mage origin, not the mage class so you end up getting wrong dialouge during Broken Circle.

 

I get the feeling that the mage class was planned to be part of the Dalish origin at some point because it's mentioned that your mother was a hunter and your father the Keeper, so Mathariel has the potenial to be a mage.

[Illyria]

I think I'll probably roll with Knight Enchanter, then, because I fully intend to drag Solas with my everywhere. Along with Cole. And I'll probably alternate between Dorian, Varric, and Cassandra. *Grumbles about companion limit.* I get why they do it, and I don't want them to change the limit because of those reasons. But...but... I want to take everybody with me!

 

I love my Lavellan and Solas both being Rift Mages because I can headcanon them training together and spending hours researching with each other.  Plus, it's handy to have two Rift Mages because, well, you know.

[Delphine]

I love my Lavellan and Solas both being Rift Mages because I can headcanon them training together and spending hours researching with each other.  Plus, it's handy to have two Rift Mages because, well, you know.

 

Ahah, same! Was always closest to him in combats, because same range and all.

The downside being : seeing Solas casting Firestorm on the tiniest enemies that only needed three normal hits to die.

Like, wow, thank you Solas. You tried.

(and of course, he never casts it on big bosses ever, because that'd be too clever!)

[Elira]

As much as I hold a personal disgust for many aspects of the Orlais, I'd see myself as a horrible person if I screwed them over. At the end of the day, Orlesians will be Orlesians, but they're still people. For the most part. My Lavellan is already going to be dragged into politics, which she dislikes, so she might as well make things as best as she can for everyone. Even if inwardly she's lecturing them passionately for their idiocy.

 

My Lavellan, as she will be a self-insert character (unlike my HoF and Hawke), is pro-mage. As for pro-elf, that's...complicated. If I had to be honest, she's not really. Let's see...how to explain without this turning into an essay. She cares dearly for her people. Upon being appointed to First to her Keeper, she made her responsibility to take care of them, not unlike a mother. That, however, does not excuse the fact she sees flaws in their logic and actions, as well as their mistakes, shortcomings, and the like, well before Solas came into the picture. She wants to do what's ultimately best for her clan, as well as for the remainder of her Dalish elves, but she doesn't see them as always and eternally right on everything; she not partial solely to them. She won't elevate her clan at the cost of others lives and freedom, I guess to sum it up. 

 

To those who gave me advice for the CC, thank you, also, very much! I fully expect to restart at least a few times because of dissatisfaction with my character's appearance. It happens every time, no matter the game, and no matter how many times I've played with the character creator. Perfectionist tendencies, why. But I have no doubt your advice will help me downsize the number. x3 So thank you!

 

And as for the specialization, everyone raised very good points, most of which I agree with, and I think I'll just have to mull over it all until I come to the decision point in-game. Honestly, that will probably happen even if I declare I've made a decision beforehand... Everything, even the smallest, insignificant detail, requires a generous dose of thought and consideration from me. Bloody brain...

 

As a whole, though, again, thank you all ever so much for your replies. It makes me happy that there's wonderful people like you willing to answer questions and give advice to newbies like me. I am extremely grateful.

[Siha]

I am extremely grateful.

 

Donuts are a good way to express gratefulness.

[Meer]

I greatly approve of this most dashing art:

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[BoscoBread]

I greatly approve of this most dashing art:

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So does your icon!  I love Solas' resigned frowning. Varric and Bull would totally be game! 

[Meer]

So does your icon!  I love Solas' resigned frowning. Varric and Bull would totally be game! 

Quick, call the templars! I suspect there's a Tevine mustache spirit possessing me today.    
I can't stop laughing at Blackwall either. Is the mustache hiding beneath the first beard, or the second? 

[Elira]

Donuts are a good way to express gratefulness.

 

I would be more than happy to feed you all donuts. However, I fear shipping them would result in stale, melted disasters that would hardly resemble a true donut's ooey-gooey glory. It just wouldn't be fair to you, or the donuts. 

[AryBoBary]

I greatly approve of this most dashing art:

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Sera Greatly Approves

 

Relevant: Anyone up for some PRIDE cookies? Get it? GET IT? 

[laurelinvanyar]

Quick, call the templars! I suspect there's a Tevine mustache spirit possessing me today.    
I can't stop laughing at Blackwall either. Is the mustache hiding beneath the first beard, or the second? 

Wha? Beard-ception????

[AryBoBary]

Wha? Beard-ception????

 

[Addai]

I never knew you couldn't be a dalish mage... wtf.

It's a mod.
 

My close second is Gaspard ruling alone but I don't know how that plays out for Ferelden/Orlais in the long run.

I just did this and didn't get anything in the epilogue about Ferelden and Orlais having problems, but I also did the quest at the war table where the Inquisition facilitates peace negotiations between them, so I'm not sure if that played a role or not. I was intending to set Briala up as the puppetmaster, but somehow I failed to get the dirt on Gaspard so that didn't work out.

I'm sort of done with Celene, so I think Gaspard is my canon choice, even though I don't like having to assassinate a ruler to get him in power. Seems a bad precedent. As far as Solas, I think his main thing is that he approves if you find a resolution that isn't violent. Whereas IIRC Cole gives you a frowny face for not killing the bad people, lol. If I could, I'd explain to him that that would require dousing the whole palace in oil and setting it alight with every person inside. Starting with that little witch that calls you "rabbit" in the courtyard.

[BoscoBread]

It's a mod.
 
I just did this and didn't get anything in the epilogue about Ferelden and Orlais having problems, but I also did the quest at the war table where the Inquisition facilitates peace negotiations between them, so I'm not sure if that played a role or not. I was intending to set Briala up as the puppetmaster, but somehow I failed to get the dirt on Gaspard so that didn't work out.

I'm sort of done with Celene, so I think Gaspard is my canon choice, even though I don't like having to assassinate a ruler to get him in power. Seems a bad precedent. As far as Solas, I think his main thing is that he approves if you find a resolution that isn't violent. Whereas IIRC Cole gives you a frowny face for not killing the bad people, lol. If I could, I'd explain to him that that would require dousing the whole palace in oil and setting it alight with every person inside. Starting with that little witch that calls you "rabbit" in the courtyard.

I did the war table mission as well, I was mostly referring to future games. I'm interested to see how Gaspard will be.  I'm pretty anti-expansionist so I wasn't too keen on him for that reason. I will likely have a world state with him in power though just because it could be interesting politically, but for my canon - I think declawing Oralais is my preferred option.   Frankly I just kind of want to put that whole country on the backburner and never hear from them again except for a card at Wintersend. 

[TanisLave]

My background being that super High-def sneering Solas is starting to get distracting when I stare at my monitor to think.

[Illyria]

I did the war table mission as well, I was mostly referring to future games. I'm interested to see how Gaspard will be.  I'm pretty anti-expansionist so I wasn't too keen on him for that reason. I will likely have a world state with him in power though just because it could be interesting politically, but for my canon - I think declawing Oralais is my preferred option.   Frankly I just kind of want to put that whole country on the backburner and never hear from them again except for a card at Wintersend. 

 

I think that's why Celene+Briala is the best ending.  Celene gets to continue being the peacemaker and Briala can help the elves.  However, this ending is relying on them not to have another lovers tiff that results in a civil war.

[Colonelkillabee]

It's a mod.

Lol I know that now I meant before now I didn't know they couldn't be mages. Never saw the mod before in the first place, I just assumed dalish mage was there in the game.

[panamakira]

I have decided that none of you deserve Solas. I am taking him away and will only return with him once his harem has returned to their senses.

 

Oh wait, he already left XD

 

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Hahaaha so this is what I walk into...