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[Meer]

Squeaking. Definitely squeaking.  He refuses to take them off and continues the rest of his glorious quest in squeaky slippers.  Even better if he's in the clownish Keeper robes.

 

Solas: Falon'Din, kill me if you must! But your bloodthirsty reign terror ENDS NOW *squeak squeak squeak*

Falon'Din:....omg i cannot take you seriously rite nao.

I sincerely hope this includes Velvet Goldmine Falon'Din, because nothing could make this scene more perfect.

[Colonelkillabee]

Finally everyone can pat his bald head.
http://nexusmods.com...sition/mods/381

Your avatar, where is that original work at? The source I mean.

 

edit: Can't find something new for ToP, sorry.

Modifié par Colonelkillabee, 23 février 2015 - 07:54 .

[coldwetn0se]

By the time this posts, the convo will have probably changed.

I have all sorts of gripes and defensive qualifiers, when it comes to Solas. @Avejejed, brought up the real world aspect of the ex-mobster boyfriend, as a comparison, even when real world comparisons often don't completely fit. This was not a bad illustration though, and one that does give food for thought.

The main issue I personally have when analyzing a character like this, is the limitations that the game mechanics have, when doing so. Because BW games are more story heavy, and the story does have a mostly linear path, we have time constraints built in to the game. The game is not a reflection of a "neverending story"; it has limits. I can play Dragon's Dogma and Skyrim for more hours than I should ever admit to, and not finish the story. The game appeals to many different types of game play. But a BW game, tries to steer you back to the story. A story that will ultimately conclude (well, to a certain degree).

So what is my point to this rambling. I suppose it is simply that unlike real life, where we can continue to pursue and pester for answers, the game says "here are all the questions your character is allowed to ask. And these are all the answers we are willing to give you." (at least at this time). How many times have you talked to your monitor or TV screen as questions flash in your head? How many instances have you yelled, "BUT!........"? More than likely, many times more than the game allows you to act upon.

Now with that aimless train of thought concluded, I will add two of my own personal analyses.

First, the "humanizing" of Solas. (putting the word in quotes, since we the game has other races, but I think everyone gets the idea ). Banters among the companions and Solas, seem to start one way, and alter as time goes on. Not in all cases, mind you, but in many. Take the ongoing discussion between Varric and Solas, regarding the lone man on an island, living his life, drinking his "fermented fruit juice". By the conclusion of that exchange, Solas somewhat concedes to Varric's reasoning. Regardless of whether he would feel the same way as the man on the island, Solas now can fathom how one could still find a life of meaning or at least contentment, because it IS life. Living.

The reactions of Sera to Solas' suggestions, could be considered another good example. Unfortunately, I have not had all them fire (and it has been some time since I played the YT of those banters). But, I still take from that that he begins to see once again, from Sera's perspective it is about living. Being alive. Enjoying the simple things. He may believe she is missing the bigger picture, but to her, he is missing the little things that make life worth living.

When we finally get to IB's convos with Solas, if your PC had him save the chargers, we nearly see these lessons in action. Yes, Solas is revealing other aspects of himself (or what we may assume his former self was, or things he intends to do.....??), during such things as the chess match, but I also see him apply some of the elements he has taken to heart through his interactions with the rest of the "pack". What the writers intend to do with all of this potential "humanizing" is yet to be revealed. Hopefully something amazing.

My second line of thought, is in regards to how he views his plans. Whatever they were or are to become. This may end up sounding incongruous to what I stated above regarding lessons he may have learned, but bear with me.

I don't claim to have any real idea on what he had hoped would happen before taking his nap, nor his plans now. But one thing that strikes me, is that he does have a somewhat fatalistic view about "what must be done". I can not but help thinking of The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor) in Serenity. When Mal questions this "ideal" universe that The Operative is doing his part to help create, he states that he would not live in such a world. There is no place for a man such as him. He has reduced himself to a necessary evil, a tool, and accepts that. This may be the very thing that Solas sees of himself, hence why dying alone appears to be his biggest fear. Even if one accepts such a role, doesn't mean it makes them happy, or without fears. Their goals just outweigh them (though, I would say that The Operative is in fact a sociopath of great intelligence, and therefore in a much better position to put aside his own fears/feelings, if he has them). Solas clearly does have fears and feelings though. And now with his time in the Inquisition, he may have new viewpoints to consider (this is where the humanizing may have influence...again, so I hope).

It is quite possible that I have read into things incorrectly, or am seeing more than I should. I still get amazed at how many bits and pieces of dialogue, banter amongst the companions, and codices I missed in previous play throughs, only to discover later. By the time DLC comes out, it will be interesting if some of my ideas on these matters will change. I'm always willing to amend my thoughts and ideas, as new information is revealed.

TL;DR

Blah, blah, yada-yada.....game limitations, humanizing, not fit to live in this perceived utopia.

[R2s Muse]

Hi Solas thread! *waves*
 
I still haven't fully finished my Solasmance so I'm still trying to avoid some final spoilers before I can fully bask in the tragic elven glory with y'all.  But, he has now crept into my stories, so I thought I would share what I'm affectionately calling my "jealous Solas" story from the Page 5000 Cullen thread celebration. It's my first time writing Solas, so be kind!  
 
TTFN!

People Will Talk by R2sMuse

 
Del Lavellan has an awkward encounter with Cullen that reveals some lingering issues from his time in Kirkwall, but also complicates her relationships with both the Commander and Solas. Set during DA:I, mid-game. F!Lavellan/Solas, F!Lavellan/Cullen. 
 
Rated: M

[almasy87]

But this time I decide to keep the Wardens, and Solas just ****** sighs. Don't you sigh at me, young man!... Old man... You! I'll Greatly Disapprove your behind in a minute!

Oooh yes.

I approve of this.
 

[nikki-tikki]

Heeeeey ladies. Feast your eyes on my latest masterpiece.

Spoiler

PS: I'm sorry I finished it before your nap ended, Liz.

Omggggg THIS IS AMAZINGGG!!!!!

[Colonelkillabee]

Omggggg THIS IS AMAZINGGG!!!!!

Aww my ToP Solas faaaaiiiled. Oh well.

[Elven_Glory]

It's especially obvious when you see the scene with flycam.  Once she kisses him, there's no hesitation, not until after he's kissed the hell out of her  You don't kiss someone with *that* much gusto without having thought about it before.

I fully agree with this. I am of the opinion that he basically kissed the crap out of her because she had taken all the pressure off of him to "do the responsible thing." In a way, I kind of think of it as similar to being on a specialized diet, where Lavellan is a frilly cake and Solas is not supposed to eat refined sugar. Granted, a cake cannot shove itself into your mouth, as we see Lavellan doing with Solas... hehe... But once that initial bite has been eaten, often times, person on diet will just be like "**** it. All bets are off, I've already screwed up, might as well finish the whole thing."

Maybe better akin to an addiction... not that I believe that Solas is addicted to Lavellan... then again, pheromones are failry easy to get addicted to, to my understanding... I'm rambling again, though. Basically, train of thought as follows:

Solas: I want to kiss her, but I probably shouldn't... too risky.
Lavellan: I'm kissing you now... for I know nothing of your future plans and have no clue about what kind of ****ery this could bring.
Solas: Oh. Well... okay then...
Lavellan: I'm walking away for some reason.
Solas: The hell you are. I know I'm going to regret this in the morning, but since you started it, you have unshackled me from all my responsibility as the more informed person in this situation.
Lavellan: Hm. I think maybe he likes me just a little more than I had originally anticipated.
Solas: No.... we can't do this. I still have to be a semi-responsible adult. Dammit.
Lavellan: Or maybe he doesn't like me at all. Wait... where the hell are we?

That's how I see it going, anyway.

[Delphine]

On both my playthrough, having not finished DA:O & DA2 yet, my world-state was the basic one. On my first playthrough, I decided to save Hawke, because he seemed like the most favored one, but I was so disappointed that he disappeared just after saving his ass, and did nothing for the Wardens, that I saved Stroud on my second and canon playthrough.

 

And now, I regret nothing, because the mustache needs more love, the mustache is a national treasure, and the mustache deserves to be saved.

TEAM SAVE THE MUSTACHE.

[Siha]

that I saved Stroud on my second and canon playthrough.

TEAM SAVE THE MUSTACHE.

 

How can you have a canon if you haven't played DAO and DA2 yet? Your whole world will change when you're through with them.

 

And now I had to laugh. So anti-beard but pro-mustache?

[KarateKats]

I'm bored so going to stream on Picarto for a bit if anyone wants to hang out. You'll probably want to mute my music though. Link is in my sig.

[Delphine]

How can you have a canon if you haven't played DAO and DA2 yet? Your whole world will change when you're through with them.

 

And now I had to laugh. So anti-beard but pro-mustache?

 

It's the state of the world that I want now, given that I haven't yet finished the other two. It might change then, but how BIG will be the change, besides me choosing between Alistair/Loghain/Hawke in the Fade, hum? Not sure I'll redo a playthrough for such a minor change, but maybe I will, who knows.

 

As for team mustache, it's not that I find Stroud attractive, not really. It's that I found the mustache so big, fabulous and unique, that I think it deserves preserving. It's like seeing something so out of the ordinary, that you know you wanna keep it around. Hawke's unshaved beard just sucked, compared to that.

 

I made a decision of life and death solely based on the facial pilosity of two people. Heh, not bad.

[laurelinvanyar]

Zombies are up there for me too, mainly necromorphs from deadspace. I had a dream where I was fighting a giant one with tentacles in the ocean trying to suck me into one of its wormy appendages. It was pretty epic though, like God of War stuff, but it freaked me out because it was a very lucid and very realistic dream, and I just escaped a house full of necromorphs already. That was the only dream I can think of where I actually died in it.

 

Then there's one I had as a kid where I was eaten by a worm and I saw myself being swallowed up in its transparent body. Then somehow I was eating the worm. Really gross.

 

In SC, we have roaches bad, so orkin is a must. Those big ones we call "Palmetto Bugs" are ninjas...

*hug* Zombies are the wooorrrst. 

My two greatest fears are zombies and disease. You can imagine how I felt about the Fallow Mire Q.Q

[blaidfiste]

Speaking of banter, I thought I had heard it all but I was listening to the end of the famous chess match between bull and Solas and at the very end Sera pipes up and goes "KING ME!" and it was basically the funniest thing ever.

Here's the match

[Mims]

Juust a few more hours of work. Then, I will be free for a few days to do only fanart. I am sitting on a metric ton of thumbnail sketches. 

[Elven_Glory]

All of this discussion of fan art made me remember the picture I drew in my human development class today (instead of listening to my fellow classmates presentations on teratogens) it's a Solas.

Not a very good one, but decent I guess in comparison to what I'm actually capable of (ie: not much). I keep telling myself that one day I'm actually going to learn how to draw, but it hasn't happened yet. Spoilered for size.

Spoiler

[Mims]

All it takes is practice! Art is a learned skill like any other. If you keep at it, you will absolutely see improvement. It is really cool to see all the art people have been creating. 

[Elven_Glory]

All it takes is practice! Art is a learned skill like any other. If you keep at it, you will absolutely see improvement. It is really cool to see all the art people have been creating.

I have to admit, I like my style, but I would like to refine it more. As long as I've actually been drawing, though, you would think I would be better at it, but I feel like I plateaued around age 16. I want to take some actual art classes at some point, but right now, with my Physical Therapy classes plus job and child, I feel like I really don't have the time. Maybe once I graduate (only 2 years left!) I can take some actual 'me time' classes.

I think Solas would approve. He likes it when people choose to educate themselves. And art.

[NightSymphony]

Delphine...your talk of "The Mustache" made me think of this The Tick episode.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=X9iN3wiLM8o

[Taelaa]

I have to admit, I like my style, but I would like to refine it more. As long as I've actually been drawing, though, you would think I would be better at it, but I feel like I plateaued around age 16. I want to take some actual art classes at some point, but right now, with my Physical Therapy classes plus job and child, I feel like I really don't have the time. Maybe once I graduate (only 2 years left!) I can take some actual 'me time' classes.

I think Solas would approve. He likes it when people choose to educate themselves. And art.

 

There's a great book I found several years back that really helped me a lot along the path of being self-taught. You can find the PDF here or order it on Amazon. I found it a great way to learn.

[coldwetn0se]

Sort of noticed that my previous post, may have sounded somewhat ambivalent, regarding Solas.

Truth is,


Really do hope for the best for him.

Still on Team Disill___er Optimism!

[Avejajed]

Sort of noticed that my previous post, may have sounded somewhat ambivalent, regarding Solas.

Truth is,


Really do hope for the best for him.

Still on Team Disill___er Optimism!

 

Same. I don't want anyone to think I dislike Solas. I know we have very protective people here and I'd hate to be forced to the Abelas thread like Liz was. I just want to know the facts before I make any hasty judgments on his character or intent. I don't think he's as blameless and pure as the rose-colored glasses of this thread make him out to be.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I fully agree with this. I am of the opinion that he basically kissed the crap out of her because she had taken all the pressure off of him to "do the responsible thing." In a way, I kind of think of it as similar to being on a specialized diet, where Lavellan is a frilly cake and Solas is not supposed to eat refined sugar. Granted, a cake cannot shove itself into your mouth, as we see Lavellan doing with Solas... hehe... But once that initial bite has been eaten, often times, person on diet will just be like "**** it. All bets are off, I've already screwed up, might as well finish the whole thing."

 

I wish Cole would comment on the Solavellan romance *before* they've broken up.  Kind of like the stuff he says about Iron Bull and quizzy.  Hmm...

 

From Solas's perspective: We shouldn't.  But her lips are warm and sweet and a few tendrils of her hair tickle his face.  She's too real even here, and when she pulls back, hesitant and wondering, it suddenly isn't enough.  We shouldn't, but he can't hear the warning, drowned out in this moment of "I want."

 

From Lavellan's perspective: She knows it was a dream, but she feels the weight of his body, the taste of his lips. There's sunlight and wind and color, bursting from him into her. Wake up, he whispers, but she doesn't want to. Not now, not so soon. Is this what it's like for him too?

[Delphine]

Delphine...your talk of "The Mustache" made me think of this The Tick episode.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=X9iN3wiLM8o

 

That... That was glorious.

[Colonelkillabee]

*hug* Zombies are the wooorrrst. 

My two greatest fears are zombies and disease. You can imagine how I felt about the Fallow Mire Q.Q

You should play dead space

 

Fallow Mire's not so bad, the zombies here aren't scary. This is all making me want to play Left 4 Dead again. Or deadspace multiplayer. I was such a dick on left 4 dead, I loved tricking people into trusting me, then abandoning them at the most inopportune time so I could escape   I am Sean from Walking Dead basically.