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[BoscoBread]

I think he'd be kind of horrified TBH if anyone tried to worship him, let alone Lavellan.  Mine wouldn't.  Between Corypheus and Mythal and all the Herald of Andraste malarkey, she's pretty much over the whole "god" thing.

Yeah. Now what I know what she meant though, then I DON'T think he would mind...ahem. But mine still would laugh in his face. That kind of "worship" ain't free. 

 

But I agree with you on the serious side.  I think he would be pretty appalled if people did worship him. That's why I have hard time believing he did have a cult of followers....unless he was like the fan-fic Fen'Harels I read about.

[Elven_Glory]

I was thinking about something this morning while I was plotting my next solavellan fan fiction. When would you say your Lavellan started to suspect that Solas may not be exactly who he says he is. I know that by the time they got to the well and Abelas referred to her as Shem and to Solas as Elvhen, she was completely convinced (and I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't an option to discuss that with Solas because I feel like, of all people, another elf would have noticed.) but I haven't placed exactly when she started to suspect. Was it right off, or what series of events happened before Lavellan was like "hmm... Wait... Things don't quite add up..."

[Elista]

There is. It's called the "Ardent Blossom".
 
If you're on a PC there's a way to do it via Cheat Engine: http://prismavore.tu...er-crown-helmet

Too bad I am not on PC ! This is... lovely ! But... I suppose I would use it for fun, that doesn't fit with the outfits we have on the battlefield. Cassie with this crown AND the Wedge of destiny would look glorious. Or maybe I would give it to Cole.

[Maria13]

Imagery of bees and honeycomb are pretty potent erotic signifiers in a lot of poetry. So . . . not too off-topic.

 

Come slowly, Eden

Emily Dickinson

Come slowly—Eden
Lips unused to thee—
Bashful—sip thy jasmines—
As the fainting bee—

Reaching late his flower,
Round her chamber hums—
Counts his nectars—alights—
And is lost in balms!

 

Since we're on the subject of poetry & Emily Dickinson to be precise, I find this one very apt:

 

“He fumbles at your spirit
As players at the keys
Before they drop full music on;
He stuns you by degrees.

Prepares your brittle substance
For the ethereal blow
by fainter hammers, further heard,
Then nearer, then so slow

Your breath has time to straighten
Your brain to bubble cool,-
Deals one imperial thunderbolt
That scalps your naked soul.” 
― Emily Dickinson, The Complete Poems

[Mims]

It is possible Solas could have a cult of followers without necessarily wanting or asking for them. Similar to the Herald. You have a certain amount of power, and people flock to you. 

 

I don't think he actively cultivates or hangs around with any such groups, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some Forgotten One cultists or even the obscure Dalish tribe that worshipped him. 

[Sable Rhapsody]

I was thinking about something this morning while I was plotting my next solavellan fan fiction. When would you say your Lavellan started to suspect that Solas may not be exactly who he says he is. I know that by the time they got to the well and Abelas referred to her as Shem and to Solas as Elvhen, she was completely convinced (and I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't an option to discuss that with Solas because I feel like, of all people, another elf would have noticed.) but I haven't placed exactly when she started to suspect. Was it right off, or what series of events happened before Lavellan was like "hmm... Wait... Things don't quite add up..."

 

My Lavellan started to get an inkling after Halamshiral, specifically his little slip when he talks about court intrigue, then the weird conversation about the elves not being "his people."  As a player, I wish we'd gotten the opportunity to question him, but as a character I can see her holding her tongue.  She's got a million things on her plate, and she knows Solas has trouble opening up to people.  I think my Lavellan just figured he'd tell her the truth when he was ready.

 

THAT WORKED OUT GREAT DIDN'T IT.  STUPID EGGHEAD 

 

Seriously, if they do cross paths again, she's going to take the "yell at idiot god" approach since being patient and kind clearly didn't work out for her.

[Augeia]

I was thinking about something this morning while I was plotting my next solavellan fan fiction. When would you say your Lavellan started to suspect that Solas may not be exactly who he says he is. I know that by the time they got to the well and Abelas referred to her as Shem and to Solas as Elvhen, she was completely convinced (and I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't an option to discuss that with Solas because I feel like, of all people, another elf would have noticed.) but I haven't placed exactly when she started to suspect. Was it right off, or what series of events happened before Lavellan was like "hmm... Wait... Things don't quite add up..."

Well, if you'd like to relate in to conversations in game, what about the conversation after the Winter Palace? You ask him when he's ever been at court and he stammers a bit and sort of over explains (I'm an apostate, that wouldn't make any sense at all!). This is the only question that you can ask him that I know of that he actually disapproves of.

[Elven_Glory]

My Lavellan started to get an inkling after Halamshiral, specifically his little slip when he talks about court intrigue, then the weird conversation about the elves not being "his people." As a player, I wish we'd gotten the opportunity to question him, but as a character I can see her holding her tongue. She's got a million things on her plate, and she knows Solas has trouble opening up to people. I think my Lavellan just figured he'd tell her the truth when he was ready.

THAT WORKED OUT GREAT DIDN'T IT. STUPID EGGHEAD

Seriously, if they do cross paths again, she's going to take the "yell at idiot god" approach since being patient and kind clearly didn't work out for her.

Haha mine will be taking the "give him the cold shoulder until your friends force you to confront him and then yell at idiot god" approach. That's actually the fanfic I'm working out right now.
Edit: I should say, more or less, they trick her into confronting him... Because she would be content to just ignore him for the rest of her life and never admit her residual feelings.

[Augeia]

I was thinking about something this morning while I was plotting my next solavellan fan fiction. When would you say your Lavellan started to suspect that Solas may not be exactly who he says he is. I know that by the time they got to the well and Abelas referred to her as Shem and to Solas as Elvhen, she was completely convinced (and I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't an option to discuss that with Solas because I feel like, of all people, another elf would have noticed.) but I haven't placed exactly when she started to suspect. Was it right off, or what series of events happened before Lavellan was like "hmm... Wait... Things don't quite add up..."

btw, your name is glorious! 

[Giton]

I was thinking about something this morning while I was plotting my next solavellan fan fiction. When would you say your Lavellan started to suspect that Solas may not be exactly who he says he is. I know that by the time they got to the well and Abelas referred to her as Shem and to Solas as Elvhen, she was completely convinced (and I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't an option to discuss that with Solas because I feel like, of all people, another elf would have noticed.) but I haven't placed exactly when she started to suspect. Was it right off, or what series of events happened before Lavellan was like "hmm... Wait... Things don't quite add up..."

 As soon as she found this in his room:

 

http://dragonage.wik..._and_the_Fresco

 

Coupled with the whole "I totally miss aristocratic intrigue because FADE. No, it's not weird to hang out at balls in the Fade. Whatever. You just don't know, because I am the Fade expert. Also, I never talk about my family, unlike almost every other companion. So."  

[nikki-tikki]

Okay, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but when Abellas tells you that Fen'Harel didn't kill Mythal, would that mean that he was alive during the Elven Pantheon, and if so wouldn't he recognize Solas as Fen'Harel? 

 

And if not does that mean that Fen'Harel could be possessing a body sort of like Mythal?

[Sable Rhapsody]

Okay, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but when Abellas tells you that Fen'Harel didn't kill Mythal, would that mean that he was alive during the Elven Pantheon, and if so wouldn't he recognize Solas as Fen'Harel? 

 

He might not recognize Solas.  It's been thousands of years, and Solas is without his orb and a lot of the trappings one might expect from a god.  Abelas also says something about how each time they awaken, more of their memories of the past slip away.  He might remember what Fen'Harel did, but not what he looks like.

 

My personal headcanon is that he does recognize the Dread Wolf (hence him instantly exonerating Fen'Harel of Mythal's murder) but just doesn't say anything.  Either because there are shemlen about, or he assumes the party already knew.  But that's just me.  For teh dramaz 

[Maria13]

It is possible Solas could have a cult of followers without necessarily wanting or asking for them. Similar to the Herald. You have a certain amount of power, and people flock to you. 

 

I don't think he actively cultivates or hangs around with any such groups, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some Forgotten One cultists or even the obscure Dalish tribe that worshipped him. 

 

I'm sure he would find that hilarious:

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=plZRe1kPWZw

[BoscoBread]

I was thinking about something this morning while I was plotting my next solavellan fan fiction. When would you say your Lavellan started to suspect that Solas may not be exactly who he says he is. I know that by the time they got to the well and Abelas referred to her as Shem and to Solas as Elvhen, she was completely convinced (and I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't an option to discuss that with Solas because I feel like, of all people, another elf would have noticed.) but I haven't placed exactly when she started to suspect. Was it right off, or what series of events happened before Lavellan was like "hmm... Wait... Things don't quite add up..."

The fresco, comments made by Vivienne "no personal history", Cole's weird comments, Bull's.  Pretty much right after they got to Skyhold she thought something was really up. After Halamshiral - definitely.  She left it alone, though, because the past is the past. He would tell her when he was ready.  She never thought once that his feelings weren't real so it didn't really bother her.  Also their relationship is so "in the present", that it didn't bother her too much. But after the ToM - it started to really click that he was something very different but then she was pretty blindsided by the breakup that she kind of just let the whole thing go.

[Elven_Glory]

btw, your name is glorious!

Thank you! originally I meant it as a joke, but it's kind of grown on me.
At least I know Solas will be shouting my name during sex... At least according to Sera. Lol

[Armdin]

Okay, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but when Abellas tells you that Fen'Harel didn't kill Mythal, would that mean that he was alive during the Elven Pantheon, and if so wouldn't he recognize Solas as Fen'Harel? 

 

And if not does that mean that Fen'Harel could be possessing a body sort of like Mythal?

 

I like it! Guess who's outta likes again.

 

Also I wanted to mention when that when Solas stops Abelas and says something along the lines of "Your people aren't entirely gone" or something, Abelas seems to give Solas a look, like Solas was saying more than his words and he understood. Perhaps there was a certain about of recognition there.

I dunno.
 

[Mims]

 When would you say your Lavellan started to suspect that Solas may not be exactly who he says he is. 

 

I imagine that my Lavellan kind of knew something was off from the get go- but her first assumption was completely different from reality. 

 

She is a very curious and overbearing person. She wouldn't have been satisfied with vague answers...but I don't think she would have necessarily pushed them, either. Elves have hard lives in Dragon Age. A lot can happen to them. I think her first feeling was that something rather awful had happened to Solas somewhere along the line, and that was what he didn't want to talk about. At first she probably thought shem were to blame. That he might have had a family at some point. But over time and hearing his ambivalence towards the Dalish, I think she came to the conclusion that he might have ran off from an alienage, attempted to join the Dalish, and was rejected. With some sort of trauma happening somewhere in between. 

 

So she never really pushed it, thinking that he'd eventually tell her at some point. 

 

It was only around the temple of Mythal that she actually started thinking about the ancient elves. Once she knew they were alive, then I think she determined pretty quickly that he was likely one of them. But then the drama between them went down, and Corypheus attacks shortly after- so she never quite got to get her proper confrontation. 

 

Now that he's gone though, she's pretty certain that she was wrong to be so careless. She's worried, both for him, and for what she might have done by not pursuing the matter in her usual style. 

[Giton]

Okay, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but when Abellas tells you that Fen'Harel didn't kill Mythal, would that mean that he was alive during the Elven Pantheon, and if so wouldn't he recognize Solas as Fen'Harel? 

 

And if not does that mean that Fen'Harel could be possessing a body sort of like Mythal?

The Dread Wolf was missing his signature glorious elvhen mane, so Abelas didn't recognize him. Elves often employ shaving their hair as a means of very effective disguise . . . it's the elven equivalent of superhero "Clark Kent" glasses.

[Mims]

Okay, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but when Abellas tells you that Fen'Harel didn't kill Mythal, would that mean that he was alive during the Elven Pantheon, and if so wouldn't he recognize Solas as Fen'Harel? 

 

And if not does that mean that Fen'Harel could be possessing a body sort of like Mythal?

 

Given how there are [almost] zero depictions of Fen'Harel as a non-wolf, I'm guessing that most ancient elves didn't really see him on a day to day basis.

 

That said, Abelas knew he was an ancient elf judging by his comments. So either ancient elves have some sort of ancient elf radar, or he did actually recognize him and knew not to bother with whatever Fen'Harel's plans were. 

[Elista]

I was thinking about something this morning while I was plotting my next solavellan fan fiction. When would you say your Lavellan started to suspect that Solas may not be exactly who he says he is. I know that by the time they got to the well and Abelas referred to her as Shem and to Solas as Elvhen, she was completely convinced (and I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't an option to discuss that with Solas because I feel like, of all people, another elf would have noticed.) but I haven't placed exactly when she started to suspect. Was it right off, or what series of events happened before Lavellan was like "hmm... Wait... Things don't quite add up..."

I had hints but never understood what was going on... I was always wondering, since the begininning, how he could speak old even so fluently, in a very spontaneous way... and why he would say "my people" when talking about the creators of the artifacts but not the modern elves... THAT. I wanted to ask him "Oh, elves are your people NOW ? Have you changed your mind ?"

[Sable Rhapsody]

That said, Abelas knew he was an ancient elf judging by his comments. So either ancient elves have some sort of ancient elf radar, or he did actually recognize him and knew not to bother with whatever Fen'Harel's plans were. 

 

I'm inclined toward the latter.  Abelas does, after all, bear vallaslin, and unlike the Dalish the original meaning of the slave markings holds true for him.  From the bits of codex we get on him if quizzy drinks from the Well, it sounds like his service to Mythal was something he valued.  It may even have been voluntary.  He might still see himself as the gods' servant, and decide it's not his place to interfere with Fen'Harel.

[nikki-tikki]

Given how there are [almost] zero depictions of Fen'Harel as a non-wolf, I'm guessing that most ancient elves didn't really see him on a day to day basis.

 

That said, Abelas knew he was an ancient elf judging by his comments. So either ancient elves have some sort of ancient elf radar, or he did actually recognize him and knew not to bother with whatever Fen'Harel's plans were. 

 

It just kinda makes me sad thinking that Abellas and co. have dedicated their entire lives to protecting, what they think is, the remnants of Mythal, when in reality she is alive and well and doesn't care about them too much.  

[Mims]

I'm inclined toward the latter.  Abelas does, after all, bear vallaslin, and unlike the Dalish the original meaning of the slave markings holds true for him.  From the bits of codex we get on him if quizzy drinks from the Well, it sounds like his service to Mythal was something he valued.  It may even have been voluntary.  He might still see himself as the gods' servant, and decide it's not his place to interfere with Fen'Harel.

 

He's also rather quick to say that Fen'Harel wasn't responsible when it came up. Even though there's no real reason he would need to phrase it so directly. 

 

There's really no way Abelas could have revealed who Solas was and not potentially caused trouble. You know Fen'Harel isn't the one who betrayed your goddess. You just woke up and you don't know why he's mucking around with a bunch of shemlen, but best to give him the benefit of the doubt and not heckle someone who was [presumably] an ally. 

[BoscoBread]

I'm inclined toward the latter.  Abelas does, after all, bear vallaslin, and unlike the Dalish the original meaning of the slave markings holds true for him.  From the bits of codex we get on him if quizzy drinks from the Well, it sounds like his service to Mythal was something he valued.  It may even have been voluntary.  He might still see himself as the gods' servant, and decide it's not his place to interfere with Fen'Harel.

Also, given that we know the gods were incredibly fickle and...uh...shitty...it may have been a bit of self-preservation on his part.  There is likely a darker side of Solas that we don't really see and may never see.  He seems to have navigated the politics of that time pretty deftly and from what we know they were nuts. So Abelas may either know of him directly or from rumor and was like 'nope. not getting involved. my life is already a mess'.