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I was in a coffee shop today, and I looked over and saw Solas.  Well, not really, but the dude was a dead enough ringer that I asked his permission to take his photo to post on the Bioware forum and explained why. Turns out he'd played DA 1 and knew what I was talking about, but hadn't followed the franchise since and had no idea that he looked like one of the characters. He knows now, and I'm imagining his face when he first encounters his doppleganger in the game.

 

Image is here: http://s647.photobuc...rary/Dragon Age

Wow he does look like Solas!

 

And the  voice ? Nice ? 

 

Did you tell him he might have like 1,000 wannabe girlfriends on BSN ? 

 

Poor guy might want to run away while he can :P


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I was in a coffee shop today, and I looked over and saw Solas.  Well, not really, but the dude was a dead enough ringer that I asked his permission to take his photo to post on the Bioware forum and explained why. Turns out he'd played DA 1 and knew what I was talking about, but hadn't followed the franchise since and had no idea that he looked like one of the characters. He knows now, and I'm imagining his face when he first encounters his doppleganger in the game.

 

Image is here: http://s647.photobuc...rary/Dragon Age

Clearly you are in the beginning of a romantic comedy.

Hopefully the third act misunderstanding is one of the dumb ones, rather than the "Distraction" talk. :(


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Can we have a solavellan porn drawing party some day? Is that a thing we could do? o_o

 

Still catching up... I just want to say, I approve of this! planningplz.gif


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Wow he does look like Solas!

 

And the  voice ? Nice ? 

 

Did you tell him he might have like 1,000 wannabe girlfriends on BSN ? 

 

Poor guy might want to run away while he can :P

 

Yikes. I didn't actually think about that part. I respect his privacy and am not going to share any of his details (not that I have much) so that it doesn't get uncomfortable for him. Let's be respectful of this nice gentleman who gave permission for his likeness to a video game character to be posted.


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Still catching up... I just want to say, I approve of this! planningplz.gif

 

I second this motion!



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Just woke up and this is one of the first things I saw. This is.... amazing. xD (The added audio... *snickers*)

 

I <3 you guys!

 

Anyway, back to catching up to the thread. :P

Just woke up bleary eyed, hoping it was at least five. It wasn't.

 

Then my eyes cleared around this post and I see you bring this back but it's waaaaay funnier and just...

 

thank you.



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Just woke up bleary eyed, hoping it was at least five. It wasn't.

 

Then my eyes cleared around this post and I see you bring this back but it's waaaaay funnier and just...

 

thank you.

I still have no likes, but I intended on liking this.

Good morning Colonel.

 

I am going to bed. 


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Art time.  :wizard:

 

"Whatever happens... know that what we had was real." ;__;

 

Spoiler

http://princessalist...we-had-was-real

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Solavellan comic with a Lavellan named 'Andruil' who then changes her name.

 

Spoiler

http://q-u-i-n-n-m.t...fool-i-named-my

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And Solas.

 

Spoiler

http://morriganlelia...ere-all-of-them

 

 

Edit: I'd post more but all the other latest artworks I've seen on Tumblr were already posted here by others already. :D

That and my laptop seems to be dying everytime I browse the tags on Tumblr lately.  :wacko: 


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YES I GOT MY LIKES BACK. Celebrate with me.

 

Spoiler

 

Night night, Solas-lovers.

 

SFwx2rc.jpg

 

I don't know, I'm so tired. 

 

 


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I still have no likes, but I intended on liking this.

Good morning Colonel.

 

I am going to bed. 

Morning :) It's a little too early in the morning though, so I'll be sleeping again as well.

 

Just wanted to stop in and see what art was posted. Thank you Capricorn for providing some goodies.

 

Oh and the one you posted with Solas and lavellan turning heads, Elven_Glory, lol.


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Harsh? Hatred? Haha, not quite. but if that's how you wanna interpret it, go ahead.

I just feel there's no part in the DA universe where some people, as a culture, have no gods at all, or are not gnostic in any way. Everybody HAS to believe in something, whatever that might be.

I think DA should to have a race/culture that goes against that. It sometimes all feels like whether it be Andraste, the Maker, the elven gods, the Qun, or Tevinter gods, you HAVE to believe in something. Maybe the Dwarves are the closest to that, I guess, though I don't know their lore as much, but it feels they're still kind of gnostic in a way.

But you're right, I'm still discovering a lot (even though I spoiled myself a lot because I read way too much and don't care about spoiling myself either).

It is not so much aversion than a "it'll be great to witness it/initiate it" moment, on an anthropological and social level. But again, feel free to interpret is as you wish.

 

I am not religious. Call me agnostic, if you like, or even atheistic. This is not the point, so I will not go into this further or reply to any of what might have been said about the existence of a god in general or in Thedas in particular. I do not even "care" if there is a Maker, elven gods, the Stone or anything.

What this is merely about is how I do not like your attitude, or the way you express it, regarding two points, as follows:

 

1.) I know religious people. And while I do not agree with their beliefs they are still people I like. So now you say you would take cheerful joy if seeing people confronted with the revelation how there is no deity or what form ever. I picture a person who has believed in a particular god all her life, assume one of my friends, has taken strength from that and lived her life trying to be a good person. And this is taken away, revealed that there is no such thing as a god. Her actions were still genuine and "good", but everything she had believed in is scattered and tainted. And then there is Delphine, clapping her hands and cheering in bloody pleasure. I am sorry, but that's a picture I do not like. It shocked me to read you. You may make fun of me, I really don't care. I'm just not good at not speaking my mind; birth defect.

 

2.) What really bugs me is how you don't have a clue. You haven't played DAO, the extensions, or DA2 + DLC. You know nothing of the alienages and how people live there, you don't know about the Blights, about the Werewolves, about the Kirkwall Chantry, about the different demons you encountered, about Feynriel or anything. You don't see the different forms of belief, agnostic world views, rationality, realism, hope, scattered dreams. Not everybody in Thedas has to or does believe, and you as the protagonist can express atheism as much as you wish. But despite you not knowing all this you dare judge. And you judge without drawing parallels to our world even. In medieval times religion was the common life. I won't go into this now, too off-topic, but I guess we can agree religion was much more important, maybe even needed, than today. And this is also the setting in Thedas, which we must compare to.

What about France, what is it most famous for? What would France, today's France, be without religion? How would it have developed? What would the architecture look like or the food, or even the mentality? All we know is that it would be a completely different place. Yet you go around and play petty little devil who cannot simply accept religion but must see it destroyed and its followers humiliated.

 

That last bit, that is my issue. You taking joy in seeing others humiliated. But not for something they did, but only for how they were brought up to believe in. And if you call this interpretation, alright. But I think you worked to make me get this impression from your words, so I'd call it even. You may even be like that if you deem it necessary. And I may dislike it.

 

Edit: I don't intend to say any more about the topic later, so I will add something to make it more clear: I strongly oppose discrimination or looking down on people for whatever reasons. Religion, gender, race, sexual orientation, and so on. I don't like if people take joy in seeing any of these fundamental things humiliated. My issue is not with this being about religion, it is with this being about human dignity. I don't like any way of deliberately violating it, no matter what my personal opinion about one of these.

 

The warning was specifically issued as "Spamming in Profile." I was informed that the post containing the art was removed for "non-constructive/Trolling content." Which... it wasn't. It was art. Which means someone specifically flagged the post, not a moderator.

 

You know, we could simply randomly report posts here. So the moderators get really confused and no longer know what to take seriously or not. The boy who cried wolf, basically.

(Ah, wolf! You see? Damn, I'm so good.)


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Guys, is it okay if I plug something?  :blush:

My sister is currently accepting painted bust commissions and I thought I'd help her out and promote it.  :wizard:

Her art is pretty good. Here are some of her works:

 

 

There's more of her work on her Tumblr. And here's her commission details page: http://shellysoneja....r-painted-busts

 

So, if anyone is interested or knows someone who is interested, feel free to shoot her an email. :)

 

That is all!

 

*bows*


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Actually I DO want to know the answer to this question. Especially if a clothed bust can earn a person a warning while a bathing Solas did not. Legitimately want to know - no sarcasm in this statement.

 

Technically speaking it would be dependent on the rules applicable to the workplace where the person viewing the content is based... Not helpful for posters I know, but if anyone here has any doubts... You need to look up your workplace rules!

 

But here are the site rules: http://forum.bioware...c/3-site-rules/


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Technically speaking it would be dependent on the rules applicable to the workplace where the person viewing the content is based... Not helpful for posters I know, but if anyone here has any doubts... You need to look up your workplace rules!

 

But here are the site rules: http://forum.bioware...c/3-site-rules/

So apparently I should hook up with Mon Mothma and just outright join the Alliance.  :lol:



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So, since we've been seeing a lot of Falon'din love, I thought I'd start with him now that I've gone through every codex in game. 

http://dragonage.wik...Dead,_the_Guide

http://dragonage.wik...ng_to_Falon'Din

 

In both of these codexes, Falon'din is referred to as "Lethanavir", which seems significant. First some context before I attempt to translate:

 

"O Falon'Din

Lethanavir—Friend to the Dead
Guide my feet, calm my soul,
Lead me to my rest." (from Falon'din, Friend to the Dead)

 

"The People swore their lives to Falon'Din
Who mastered the dark that lies.
Whose shadows hunger
Whose faithful sing
Whose wings of death surround him
Thick as night.


Lethanavir, master-scryer, be our guide, 

Through shapeless worlds and airless skies." (from Song to Falon'Din)

 

Ok, now the translation:

 

Leth- We have no direct translation in the lexicon. The closest we have is Lethallin meaning "kinsman", in which only -lin is translatable as "blood". My best guess as to the translation of leth- is something like "same" or "similar" ("same blood" = kinsman). 

 

-An is translated as "place"

 

Na- is translated as "your"

 

-Vir is translated as "path" or "way"

 

An-Na can be combined as Ana in the same way Felas-assan can be combined as Felassan. 

 

So Lethanavir is literally translated to "same place your path". 

 

When you look at it in context the word is used in conjunction with his role as a guide for the dead, so I think it can be translated as something closer to "all paths lead to death"   :devil:

 

Thoughts?

 

Pathfinder?  Or our pathfinder?



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So apparently I should hook up with Mon Mothma and just outright join the Alliance.  :lol:

 

Errrrrrrr, you mean your mum? As we say in these parts...



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Errrrrrrr, you mean your mum? As we say in these parts...

:huh: http://starwars.wiki...wiki/Mon_Mothma

I'm so confused!  :lol:

I just have a weakness for rebels who also happen to be excellent administrators, and here you go bringing back around to the Oedipus discussion!  :lol:



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Harsh? Hatred? Haha, not quite. but if that's how you wanna interpret it, go ahead.

I just feel there's no part in the DA universe where some people, as a culture, have no gods at all, or are not gnostic in any way. Everybody HAS to believe in something, whatever that might be.

I think DA should to have a race/culture that goes against that. It sometimes all feels like whether it be Andraste, the Maker, the elven gods, the Qun, or Tevinter gods, you HAVE to believe in something. Maybe the Dwarves are the closest to that, I guess, though I don't know their lore as much, but it feels they're still kind of gnostic in a way.

But you're right, I'm still discovering a lot (even though I spoiled myself a lot because I read way too much and don't care about spoiling myself either).

It is not so much aversion than a "it'll be great to witness it/initiate it" moment, on an anthropological and social level. But again, feel free to interpret is as you wish.

 

It has Solas, when Cassandra asks what he believes in his reply is: Cause and effect. Wisdom as its own reward, and the inherent right of all free willed people to exist

 

That is pretty much an atheist's creed.


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:huh: http://starwars.wiki...wiki/Mon_Mothma

I'm so confused!  :lol:

I just have a weakness for rebels who also happen to be excellent administrators, and here you go bringing back around to the Oedipus discussion!  :lol:

 

Vader and Motha... You know that isn't a coincidence right? 

 

But yeah, I was doing my evening class on psychoanalytic film interpretation yesterday...

 

Fascinating stuff.



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Vader and Motha... You know that isn't a coincidence right? 

 

But yeah, I was doing my evening class on psychoanalytic film interpretation yesterday...

 

Fascinating stuff.

:P 

I think Vader is just a coincidence, or perhaps providence. Whatever old George claims, Vader being the father was not in the original scripts.

It sounding like father, and Darth Vader apparently sounding like the Dutch (and English, for that matter) Dark Father' is just coincidence!  :lol:

I love psychoanalytic film interpretations. And literature. And game.



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It has Solas, when Cassandra asks what he believes in his reply is: Cause and effect. Wisdom as its own reward, and the inherent right of all free willed people to exist

 

That is pretty much an atheist's creed.

Can I get that on a T-shirt? :D

It also has Morrigan. Kinda. I'm not sure.  :huh: Gaider has stated she isn't an atheist, but she seems to dismiss the Maker, and hold the Chantry in contempt, and also thinks that if the elven gods were ever real, they're long dead. So does she believe something similar to Solas, or am I missing something here?

There's also several characters throughout the series that seem agnostic or atheist outside of the Qun. We can role-play our DA PC's as being one, many question the Chantry, Avernus sneers at the idea of a man-made god holding back his PROGRESS FOR SCIENCE! MAGIC QUACKERY, and so on.

Again, an example of Bioware's excellent writing, portraying the Chantry and religion as complex, with many characters having different views on it. Leliana and Cassandra were the lieutenants of the Divine, but had very different views from each other. (Leliana is kind of a heretic. :D )



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Are they that uncommunicative? I only moderated large minecraft server so fast responses are expected of you. Maybe i find it odd that for a slow paced social medium like a forum, it would be just as fast response too. Hmm then again.. people talk alot more.

 

They are the true gods, the lost ones, the ancient ones...



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-Snip-

 

1/ To much your surprise, I know religious people as well. I've been raised surrounded by such people. And I love them with all my heart. Though, still wondering how they'll fare in the face of such news and how they'll react is something that interests me, because people only ever grow in the face of crisis. They change when they have to, and I wonder what this particular setting might bring to the world. Me wanting to see people having to introspect at length the things that define themselves to the core, is just something that I believe would bring good to this world. Introspection can bring people to understand why they are the way they are, what shaped them, how they are conditioned into living their life according imposed tiny sections of possibilities inside the bigger spectrum of self-expression. Nobody should have to be genuine and good because a religion told them so, but because they know it's the best way to treat each other, and live with each other. If anything, religion can teach one thing and its contrary, based on how people wanna interpret it. The good and the bad are all in there, intertwined in multiple shades of grey, and people can be led to think they are "good and genuine" while they're really not at all. I have too many examples of that surrounding me, sadly.

The vision you described is definitely your interpretation only, but if you need it to make me a villain lacking nuance and empathy, go ahead.

 

2/ I have never denied I don't know everything there is to know about DA:O and DA2 at the moment, but like I said before, I read a big deal about it, and I've talked at length about it with my boyfriend who played them both several times, expansions & DLC included. It gets me a rough idea of how things are in the DA lore, but granted, one that will probably change when I'll finish these particular playthoughs. My opinion is most definitely incomplete, but nowhere have I said it's a definitive one. In a sense, you could also say people who haven't read all DA books and played all DLC/side games have an incomplete opinion as well. I believe everybody has, since we're not the creators of this Universe, but that's not the point. The point is : what I've seen so far didn't lead me to think such thing as common or even existing. And yes, the excuse of it being comparable to our medieval times is one that can only last so long, after all, even IF based on that time period, this is a creation of fantasy, and as such, writers can take liberties and introduce concepts in it, in whatever way they see fit. They have done so with a lot of them, actually, so I don't see how this particular matter would be any different.

 

And please, don't act as if I didn't know the implication and repercussions of religions in a society, much less mine. You're free to judge me on whether I'm a horrible person based on what I say, even thought that judgment will always be incomplete, but don't assume for one moment that my vision is a short-sighted and simplified one in which religions have contributed and amounted to nothing of value in whatever society they exist. You don't know me, and even though thinking such would help you putting me in a tiny little box of your choosing that you'll then feel free to judge in however way you see fit, let me tell you right here : I don't fit in your box.

 

You can judge me based on the fact I can have little understanding for people who never try to wonder how they turn out to be the person they are, and how they have the moral compass and values they hold dear, be it religious, political and social ones. People that are not good at introspection frustrates me greatly, because I see no possibilities of self-growth for them, and I find that to be quite a hopeless thought, one that goes against everything I stand for.

 

And like I said to Colonel, I can't deny the cynicism and arrogance in myself, even though I work towards reducing their existence, I won't make the intellectual insult to anyone, and much less myself, to pretend otherwise. Feel free to judge, or dislike it, but know that I won't take offense about it, and that I'll be open to talk about it, if it still upsets you.

 

 

It has Solas, when Cassandra asks what he believes in his reply is: Cause and effect. Wisdom as its own reward, and the inherent right of all free willed people to exist

 

That is pretty much an atheist's creed.

 

You're right. That's probably one of the reasons why he's my favorite character, I suppose.


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They are the true gods, the lost ones, the ancient ones...

Eh, I think the Moderator Pantheon are just normal people with access to strange artifacts that gives them power over the common man.

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:P

I think Vader is just a coincidence, or perhaps providence. Whatever old George claims, Vader being the father was not in the original scripts.

It sounding like father, and Darth Vader apparently sounding like the Dutch (and English, for that matter) Dark Father' is just coincidence!  :lol:

I love psychoanalytic film interpretations. And literature. And game.

 

No it isn't. Vader, Vater, pater, padre, father... Nope.

 

I'm sure you'll agree that with SW George Lucas set out to write a primal story arc... The Dark Father, whether intentionally or subconsciously, named just fits right in there, Freud would say there is no such thing as coincidence...