Harsh? Hatred? Haha, not quite. but if that's how you wanna interpret it, go ahead.
I just feel there's no part in the DA universe where some people, as a culture, have no gods at all, or are not gnostic in any way. Everybody HAS to believe in something, whatever that might be.
I think DA should to have a race/culture that goes against that. It sometimes all feels like whether it be Andraste, the Maker, the elven gods, the Qun, or Tevinter gods, you HAVE to believe in something. Maybe the Dwarves are the closest to that, I guess, though I don't know their lore as much, but it feels they're still kind of gnostic in a way.
But you're right, I'm still discovering a lot (even though I spoiled myself a lot because I read way too much and don't care about spoiling myself either).
It is not so much aversion than a "it'll be great to witness it/initiate it" moment, on an anthropological and social level. But again, feel free to interpret is as you wish.
I am not religious. Call me agnostic, if you like, or even atheistic. This is not the point, so I will not go into this further or reply to any of what might have been said about the existence of a god in general or in Thedas in particular. I do not even "care" if there is a Maker, elven gods, the Stone or anything.
What this is merely about is how I do not like your attitude, or the way you express it, regarding two points, as follows:
1.) I know religious people. And while I do not agree with their beliefs they are still people I like. So now you say you would take cheerful joy if seeing people confronted with the revelation how there is no deity or what form ever. I picture a person who has believed in a particular god all her life, assume one of my friends, has taken strength from that and lived her life trying to be a good person. And this is taken away, revealed that there is no such thing as a god. Her actions were still genuine and "good", but everything she had believed in is scattered and tainted. And then there is Delphine, clapping her hands and cheering in bloody pleasure. I am sorry, but that's a picture I do not like. It shocked me to read you. You may make fun of me, I really don't care. I'm just not good at not speaking my mind; birth defect.
2.) What really bugs me is how you don't have a clue. You haven't played DAO, the extensions, or DA2 + DLC. You know nothing of the alienages and how people live there, you don't know about the Blights, about the Werewolves, about the Kirkwall Chantry, about the different demons you encountered, about Feynriel or anything. You don't see the different forms of belief, agnostic world views, rationality, realism, hope, scattered dreams. Not everybody in Thedas has to or does believe, and you as the protagonist can express atheism as much as you wish. But despite you not knowing all this you dare judge. And you judge without drawing parallels to our world even. In medieval times religion was the common life. I won't go into this now, too off-topic, but I guess we can agree religion was much more important, maybe even needed, than today. And this is also the setting in Thedas, which we must compare to.
What about France, what is it most famous for? What would France, today's France, be without religion? How would it have developed? What would the architecture look like or the food, or even the mentality? All we know is that it would be a completely different place. Yet you go around and play petty little devil who cannot simply accept religion but must see it destroyed and its followers humiliated.
That last bit, that is my issue. You taking joy in seeing others humiliated. But not for something they did, but only for how they were brought up to believe in. And if you call this interpretation, alright. But I think you worked to make me get this impression from your words, so I'd call it even. You may even be like that if you deem it necessary. And I may dislike it.
Edit: I don't intend to say any more about the topic later, so I will add something to make it more clear: I strongly oppose discrimination or looking down on people for whatever reasons. Religion, gender, race, sexual orientation, and so on. I don't like if people take joy in seeing any of these fundamental things humiliated. My issue is not with this being about religion, it is with this being about human dignity. I don't like any way of deliberately violating it, no matter what my personal opinion about one of these.
The warning was specifically issued as "Spamming in Profile." I was informed that the post containing the art was removed for "non-constructive/Trolling content." Which... it wasn't. It was art. Which means someone specifically flagged the post, not a moderator.
You know, we could simply randomly report posts here. So the moderators get really confused and no longer know what to take seriously or not. The boy who cried wolf, basically.
(Ah, wolf! You see? Damn, I'm so good.)
Modifié par Siha, 26 février 2015 - 09:27 .