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Colonelkillabee

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I think the more powerful the spirit, the more complex they are and it's more possible for them to become like a mortal.  However, that is simply my own opinion and I have nothing to back it up with.

Sounds like Hallows on Bleach. Grimmjow Jaggerjack.



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Pictured Behind Lavellan: The ghosts of girlfriends past. The chain to which she has become a link.

For some reason i'm thinking Solas was a pimp. Taking the girls (and it) to the tattoo salon, asking the tattoo artist to tat his name on the girls (and it). The artist is skeptical on why they would want his name on them. So he pulls them aside, ask if they want the tattoo. They shake their head "no". The jig is up, Solas, worst pimp ever.

 

I'm loving this discussion, guys. xD

 

I'm never going to get Awakening done!

I personally prefer the weird nights of silliness and nsfw material. I have simple needs. 



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I just realized that we're essentially arguing whether or not a spirit and a person can have a compatible and real and fulfilling romance and I'm just like, this is what Dragon Age does. In all other media where spirits exist, this would probably be a non-argument.  :lol:

 

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Colonelkillabee

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You do have a point. There was the one codex entry about a man who loved a spirit above any woman. And he basically turned her into a desire demon. 

Ooh, lol, that's uh, that sucks for him, lol.



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I am remembering a fic where the Inquisitor gets it on with Skyhold.



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I doubt a spirit and a human could realistically love each other anymore than you could love the wind, or it could love you. Love doesn't even mean the same thing it would for us, I'd imagine. Romantic love anyway. I'm sure most of you realize that, surely.

 

At best, you'd end up with something that fully embodies the concept of love and is thoroughly obsessed with you to the point that it becomes everything to that spirit, which... is lol, unhealthy for a relationship unless you like being stalked 24/7 by a spirit that might switch to a spirit of envy or jealous rage if you slip once.

 

Why am I even going through this, lol. It wouldn't work. I don't obviously know for a fact, but I'd bet my bottom dollar and both testes. Better off shipping Solas with Bull.

Someday, when i'm done with all my other drawing plans, I will pm you a picture of solas and ironbull. 


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But that's the man's fault, not the spirit's. I think Solas is better than this man.

Lololololol, good one Liza :P



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Madam, I love you. You have given me the freedom to be. The freedom to fly. Without clipping your own wings in the process. May BSN remember this day in gilded glory. High five.

 

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Someday, when i'm done with all my other drawing plans, I will pm you a picture of solas and ironbull. 

XD Well, I can't stop you, do what you wish. Don't be offended if I barf, it's all apart of the critiquing process.



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I AM SORRY. But I couldn't hold in my Wynne+Spirit headcanon feels ANY LONGER. And what's amazing about.. SPOILERS

Spoiler

 

 

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I've seen Solas/Iron Bull art around. I considered it for a moment, pondered it, and ultimately decided I was cool with it. Their conversations when Iron Bull is Tal-Vashoth my have influenced that a little.


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Why am I even going through this, lol. It wouldn't work. I don't obviously know for a fact, but I'd bet my bottom dollar and both testes. Better off shipping Solas with Bull.

 

Uhm...Solas can be a red head... Bull have a weakness for red heads...uhmmm...


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Solas is a lying liar who lies.

 

Everyone lies. Everyone who says differently is lying.

 

In the game though, we see that Solas merely omits his true age and identity, and what he knows about how Corypheus got the orb. Both for a specific reason; letting you know who he is and how he helped create the current crisis would prevent him from being able to help you fix the mess and be free to move on after the current crisis is averted.

 

He makes it clear though that he loves spirits, and wants mortals to understand spirits, so I doubt he'd lie about that. Just because he lied about one thing doesn't mean he lies about everything.

 

Although your point about Cole being an exception is true, the point I'm making is that the fact that it's possible at all rules out simplicity in general. They obviously have layers that even a being a thousand years old has yet to uncover.

 

And yet it took thousands of years for an immortal being who spends the vast majority of his time wandering the Fadeand interact with spirits to encounter one example in one spirit. That doesn't mean there are a whole bunch of them floating around, or that all, most, or even many have the capacity that Cole has. Or that there are enough floating around that Solas could find a soulmate (get it?) in the form of a spirit.

 

Even with his complexity, Cole is not exempt from the "complexity can corrupt spirits into demons" rule, since it's implied that the complexity he developed when he first left the Fade turned him into a demon, and he could still become a demon today. (That's why, during his personal quest, no one will let him kill the Templar out of revenge, since it's implied it could have turned him into a full-blown demon had they allowed it.)


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Sounds like Hallows on Bleach. Grimmjow Jaggerjack.

 

I have no idea what this means.  And I'm ok with that.  I still like you Colonel.

 

lol



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I doubt a spirit and a human could realistically love each other anymore than you could love the wind, or it could love you. Love doesn't even mean the same thing it would for us, I'd imagine. Romantic love anyway. I'm sure most of you realize that, surely.

 

At best, you'd end up with something that fully embodies the concept of love and is thoroughly obsessed with you to the point that it becomes everything to that spirit, which... is lol, unhealthy for a relationship unless you like being stalked 24/7 by a spirit that might switch to a spirit of envy or jealous rage if you slip once.

 

Why am I even going through this, lol. It wouldn't work. I don't obviously know for a fact, but I'd bet my bottom dollar and both testes. Better off shipping Solas with Bull.

 

Out of likes, blame Rynj. Have a heart. <3



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You do have a point. There was the one codex entry about a man who loved a spirit above any woman. And he basically turned her into a desire demon. 

 

Edit: But then Solas had sex with spirits. Confirmed by Blackwall and Sera.

 

Just in case people didn't see. 



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I wonder if there are loopholes.

 

What if the thing I desire most is to kill demons? 

 

The Desire Demon would kill Cole.



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Because for someone like Solas who is all about freedom there would be a big difference between the slumber he freely chose to undergo and the forced confinement of a prison-like sentence. He didn't have to presumably lock away the gods and go into his uthenera, but he freely chose to do so because it was right. Cole mentions how he did it to save them (if his conversation is really about them). And that freedom of choice shaped his thoughts, emotions and future plans obviously. It seems like it was a worthy cause, something while difficult to do was for the greater good.  Being locked away against his will would shape his feelings quite differently I think. If the confinement was imposed because of a mistake he makes.. such as releasing blighted old gods or something it would really give him something to think about. In confinement he wouldn't be able to wander like he did during uthenara. And not being able to watch the outside world move around him he wouldn't be able to focus all his thoughts on ways to change it when free.

I don't see Wisdom as an entity that would feed him the correct answers, but would instead help guide him towards those positive life choices. She would help him see that it's okay to be happy.  I totally subscribe to the theory that the reason he hooks up with you right after Wisdom dies in the game is because she had been pointing him towards you the entire time, subtly telling him to go get his own happiness. And her death sparked that need to finally listen, to take a break and heed the advice of Wisdom for once.

And again, I think spirits are MUCH more complex than other people are giving them credit for. Who is to say if Wisdom could grapple with complex emotions or not.


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The Desire Demon would kill Cole.

 

Don't you dare!

 

No one touches my baby Cole.


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XD Well, I can't stop you, do what you wish. Don't be offended if I barf, it's all apart of the critiquing process.

Of all the weird things I posted, you didn't think I crave reactionary responses? I welcome any critique.

 

Maybe Wisdom pulled a Patrick Swayze, possessed us without our knowledge and we are the Whoppi Goldberg in this ancient elvhen + spirit sandwich.

If I'm whoppi Goldberg, then the spirit who possesses me is really weird. What's that spirit? You want me to draw a Broodmother body pillow? NOOOooooo!


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Actually, I totally meant that. :|

 

In which case I retract the gif, be free little bird spread your wings a fly, there are no limits bar those of which your imagination conjures.   


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