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There was debate but a lot of us think he's INTP. I'm 99% sure.

 

Interesting. What are your main reasons for leaning so strongly towards perceiving rather than judging? There's a page that has a pretty good comparison of the two traits that, in my mind, lends further support for Solas as judging, here: http://www.myersbrig...-perceiving.htm

 

Somebody needs to ask Patrick Weekes to take the test as Solas.



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I strongly believe in personal freedom and autonomy. I do not understand your argument.

We're talking about the MBTI personality assessment RogueBait brought up.
 
T= Thinker, F= Feeler - refers to how you base your decisions, on facts and principles (T) or considering circumstance and subjective factors (F)
 
J= Judger, P= Perceiver- refers to whether you prefer things scheduled and structured (J) or open-ended and spontaneous (P)

Interesting. What are your main reasons for leaning so strongly towards perceiving rather than judging? There's a page that has a pretty good comparison of the two traits that, in my mind, lends further support for Solas as judging, here: http://www.myersbrig...-perceiving.htm

Somebody needs to ask Patrick Weekes to take the test as Solas.

Mainly what I said about him being an explorer, and about his emphasis on freedom, autonomy and choice. The main reason I strongly think he's INTP is considering the lineup of his Dominant, Secondary and Tertiary. Everything lines up perfectly. INTJ just doesnt fit as well.

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We're talking about the MBTI personality assessment RogueBait brought up.

 

T= Thinker, F= Feeler - refers to how you base your decisions, on facts and principles (T) or considering circumstance and subjective factors (F)

 

J= Judger, P= Perceiver- refers to whether you prefer things scheduled and structured (J) or open-ended and spontaneous (P)

 

She knows, and since she's INTJ, that's why she answered the way she did.


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I think what you're seeing there is T. T/F is one's basis for making decisions. Solas prefers to act according to principles, and he's not swayed by mitigating circumstances. I really don't see him as a J. The way he talks about exploring the Fade, for example, or just his emphasis in general on personal freedom and autonomy.

P and J, from what I read anyway, also effect how one thinks about the natural world around them. Ps think open endedly, are spontaneous and like to do things in the moment. They don't plan things much. And they also don't settle on ideas as much as a J would, who like things neat and tidy, to be classified and decided on quickly.

 

In relation to people, that means he judges and settles on an opinion of someone and sticks to it, which we see with the qunari, and how he interacts with Dorian. Me being a P is partly why I'm not as unforgiving as someone like him. As much as I say I dislike Sera for instance, I occasionally find my opinion changing. A lot, actually. Not that I'm indecisive, I just think too much. That's also why I thought Solas might have a bit of a P in him, since thinking more than doing according to him is a problem with him. But he's not spontaneous though. Or is he? The decision to leave Lavellan at the end was spontaneous.



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She knows, and since she's INTJ, that's why she answered the way she did.

And Addai didn't know that, so cool your jets there.



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And Addai didn't know that, so cool your jets there.

 

And... I know that? That's exactly why I thought he needed the precision, and I made it. It's Siha who wasn't precise in her answer to begin with, not Addai who couldn't "read her mind".



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And Addai didn't know that, so cool your jets there.

 

I don't think Delphine was trying to be hostile. At least, it didn't come across as such when I read it.

 

Edit:  :ph34r: 'd. Let's carry on! Lavellan personality types, anyone?



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And... I know that? That's exactly why I thought he needed the precision, and I made it. It's Siha who wasn't precise in her answer to begin with, not Addai who couldn't "read her mind".

Addai's a woman, and it sure didn't seem like it. Either way, Siha's a big girl and can explain herself.



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P and J, from what I read anyway, also effect how one thinks about the natural world around them. Ps think open endedly, are spontaneous and like to do things in the moment.


Yeah, hence when he talks about exploring the Fade and wanting to be surprised at new things. I also get the sense he loses track of time.

Here's the thread where this was originally discussed.



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I've have the same urge when I've been writing. But I've managed to control myself in keeping it nondescript when it comes to Lavellan as I type it out, but vividly imagine it being my Tala while crafting it. I mean, I know it's about my Lavellan, really. In my head, that's what it all is. But I know that it's nice for others to insert their Lavellan into fics they read--I certainly tend to do the same when reading other people's stuff. So I try to keep it open, even though it's painful and I wanna be like "and then Solas loved Tala and only Tala, and this is exactly how she looked, and she was just the best". The struggle is real.

 

 

See, I don't really have this impulse... Yes, I wrote one Solas/Lav fic and it was fine... But I want to write as Solas... I want to get under his skin, see what makes him tick and above all what he feels... Even though he might not know he's actually feeling it...

 

Strange thing is, IRL, I'm a feminist, yes, a nerd a gamer but I've never felt uncomfortable being a female, women rock! But when it comes to writing I always want to grasp the male POV...

 

I know not why.



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Yeah, hence when he talks about exploring the Fade and wanting to be surprised at new things. I also get the sense he loses track of time.
 

Right, which again's why I thought he could switch ;) being a INTP myself though makes me think he's more judgy. Hence why he was so amazed that a human could be so wise or whatever as he put it. It goes against what he thought he already had neatly noted and categorized.



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Colonel if I made you a Canadian Bacon Sandwich would you eat it


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Yeah, hence when he talks about exploring the Fade and wanting to be surprised at new things. I also get the sense he loses track of time.

Here's the thread where this was originally discussed.

 

It's pretty intriguing how Solas is the only one people can't seem to fully decide on. Oh, that complex fellow. <3



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We're talking about the MBTI personality assessment RogueBait brought up.
 
T= Thinker, F= Feeler - refers to how you base your decisions, on facts and principles (T) or considering circumstance and subjective factors (F)
 
J= Judger, P= Perceiver- refers to whether you prefer things scheduled and structured (J) or open-ended and spontaneous (P)

Mainly what I said about him being an explorer, and about his emphasis on freedom, autonomy and choice. The main reason I strongly think he's INTP is considering the lineup of his Dominant, Secondary and Tertiary. Everything lines up perfectly. INTJ just doesnt fit as well.

 

Yes. I did not say I was stupid. I said I do not understand how a strong belief in freedom and autonomy and choice would be an argument against him being INTJ. I have been classified INTJ multiple times and my heart beats for all these things.

I do not see how Solas is so unstructured and unscheduled. What about that chess game or the whole plan to begin with? Solas did not strike me as spontaneity incarnate.


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Colonel if I made you a Canadian Bacon Sandwich would you eat it

Bacon is one thing Americans can't deny canadians make well... **** yes I'd eat that ****. Might even hum "Oh Canada."

 

Just kidding on that last part. ;)


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Yes. I did not say I was stupid. I said I do not understand how a strong belief in freedom and autonomy and choice would be an argument against him being INTJ. I have been classified INTJ multiple times and my heart beats for all these things.

I do not see how Solas is so unstructured and unscheduled. What about that chess game or the whole plan to begin with? Solas did not strike me as spontaneity incarnate.

I assumed you were asking for information. Not everyone is aware of MB gibberish. No offense meant.

 

Anyway, like I said, it's more obvious to me in the lineup of the Dominant, Auxiliary etc. There's a thorough explanation in that thread I linked to.



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And Addai didn't know that, so cool your jets there.

 

And... I know that? That's exactly why I thought he needed the precision, and I made it. It's Siha who wasn't precise in her answer to begin with, not Addai who couldn't "read her mind".

 

Addai's a woman, and it sure didn't seem like it. Either way, Siha's a big girl and can explain herself.

 

Right. I'm a grown up, so is Addai. I appreciate Delphine to explain [+5] (and then point out how it was my mistake to begin with [-5]) and Colonel to defend Addai; I'd say we're even.

 

On topic: I don't know. I don't even see how this question is so interesting that it is brought up so often. But I do think Solas is quite the strategist, so I do see him rather as a J. People seem to think J-types are some sociopathic, emotionless shipwrecks. It's sad, really. You shouldn't always judge others based on my bad example.


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I don't think Delphine was trying to be hostile. At least, it didn't come across as such when I read it.

 

It really wasn't, thanks for interpreting it the way I thought everyone would.

 

Addai's a woman, and it sure didn't seem like it. Either way, Siha's a big girl and can explain herself.

 

Well, sorry if that's how you took it, it wasn't intended as such, at all. I saw an important piece of information Addai didn't have, and Siha didn't provide, and I filled in. Without that piece of information, Addai's answer could only be impartial and inaccurate, against her will. But we can agree on the fact she's a big girl and can explain herself.

 

Either way, let's move on.


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See, I don't really have this impulse... Yes, I wrote one Solas/Lav fic and it was fine... But I want to write as Solas... I want to get under his skin, see what makes him tick and above all what he feels... Even though he might not know he's actually feeling it...

 

Strange thing is, IRL, I'm a feminist, yes, a nerd a gamer but I've never felt uncomfortable being a female, women rock! But when it comes to writing I always want to grasp the male POV...

 

I know not why.

 

I don't think that's weird at all. :) Grasping a variety of POVs is interesting to me as well, regardless of gender (or race, or cultural background, or species). I love finding out what makes people/creatures tick, and being able to climb into someone's brain and scribble notes as I divulge the secrets to the way it works is something I would very much enjoy. (Why isn't real life like The Magic Schoolbus? I want to invade a brain.)

 

To clarify my post in case it was unclear: I didn't mean I wouldn't want to write fics from Solas' POV; only that when I write Solavellan, I'm tempted to insert my Lavellan, specifically, cuz' I wuv her so much. However, I do find writing as Solas daunting, because he's so complex, and already has such a clear voice that the idea of getting it wrong is horrifying to me. But that's just me and my paralyzing self-criticisms. ;3

 

Edit: Solas.

 

Spoiler


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I'm an ENTJ, though that should surprise absolutely no one.
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Hey guys, sorry to interrupt the current discussion, I've got an off topic question, but it is DA and elves related so... Alright, it's about Fenris so... I'll just spoiler it for those who aren't interested to freely ignore:

 

Spoiler



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On topic: I don't know. I don't even see how this question is so interesting that it is brought up so often. But I do think Solas is quite the strategist, so I do see him rather as a J. People seem to think J-types are some sociopathic, emotionless shipwrecks. It's sad, really. You shouldn't always judge others based on my bad example.

They do? lol I think P's get characterized as space cadets. Anyway, mature people are balanced, not extreme, and Solas has had many years to develop.

 

It's as interesting or boring as any other analysis of characters, I guess.


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Right. I'm a grown up, so is Addai. I appreciate Delphine to explain [+5] (and then point out how it was my mistake to begin with [-5]) and Colonel to defend Addai; I'd say we're even.

 

On topic: I don't know. I don't even see how this question is so interesting that it is brought up so often. But I do think Solas is quite the strategist, so I do see him rather as a J. People seem to think J-types are some sociopathic, emotionless shipwrecks. It's sad, really. You shouldn't always judge others based on my bad example.

 

In my defense for re-hashing an over-hashed topic, I was curious specifically about other people's Solasmancing Lavellans' personality types, to get an idea of how their interactions with Solas might have gone.

 

INFJ, here. \o/ I'm an emotional sociopath.

 

Edit: Grammar.



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Hey guys, sorry to interrupt the current discussion, I've got an off topic question, but it is DA and elves related so... Alright, it's about Fenris so... I'll just spoiler it for those who aren't interested to freely ignore:

 

Spoiler

 

Fenris always leaves you in act 2 after the night spent together. If the romance is locked in and you did not accidentally break up, he will return in Act 3 and ask you for a second chance.

 

Anyway, mature people are balanced, not extreme, and Solas has had many years to develop.

 

So he could also be J.



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(and then point out how it was my mistake to begin with [-5])

 

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INFJ, here. \o/ I'm an emotional sociopath.

 

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