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[Kestrel]

I'm kicking all of you Fenris haters out of the "elf lovers club." Then I will sit on my trash throne and be the president. 

[phaonica]

Heh. See I brought up the mechanic of Leliana being softened or hardened as an example of how players seem to want to have total control over their gameplay only to start a discussion of how specifically people prefer to control Leliana's fate.

 

I've never purposefully chosen a Divine for any of my playthroughs. I just roleplayed my character and discovered after the fact how my choices have influenced the appointment of the Divine. Whatever will be, will be.

[Armdin]

As for companions... I'm gonna spoiler it since I'm gonna ramble/rant a bit...

 

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I wanted to throw most of them off a cliff to be honest. xD The only ones I did like were Varric, Aveline, Carver (baby bro! ), and Bethany (even though I found her boring). I tolerated Sebastian mainly because I found him pretty to look at (and I nearly went with him as my canon romance until I heard his romance was rather, 'meh'). Anders I have mixed feelings for because I really liked him in Awakening and was so disappointed on how much he's changed in DA2. Yet, I romanced him partially because his change made him rather... interesting? I don't know, I can't explain it. (I still wanted to slap him from time to time). Merrill I had a love-hate thing for obvious reasons, but I couldn't completely hate her because she was my Mahariel's clanmate. Isabela I didn't care about at all so she ran off with the tome. Aaaand Fenris? I'm gonna get flayed alive for this since I know a lot of people on this thread love him, but I really, really, didn't like him. I'm sorry, but he annoyed the hell out of me which is why I didn't romance him. ^__^;

 

And while we're still talking about DA2, I really didn't like Tallis in the Mark of the Assassin DLC (did you play that, btw?). All her talk about how the Qun is so much better (if I remember correctly) made me want to tell her to shut up. Sadly, we can't really argue with her on it so I had to put up with that. 

 

So yeah, ME3's ending and DA2 put Bioware in a bad light for me for a period of time. Then when DAI was still in the works and heard that the protagonist was going to be human-only, I decided I wasn't going to follow the news on it's development because Bioware disappointed me yet again. xD Good thing they changed their minds later on and added multiple races for your Inquisitor because that's one of the reasons that made me interested in the DA series again.

 

On-topic: Could you imagine Solas done in the DA2 style elves? Him with big anime eyes? *shudders*

 

I tried Archer for a bit in DA2 and put it down. It was better done in Origins, but daggers overall feel stronger in both games. If I ever do go back to Origins it'll be as a Warrior, sword and shield, it was fun and I found myself running around as Alistair quite a lot. x)

 

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Oh, when I was watching my partner play it I wanted to throw the companions off a cliff too! My opinion on them at the time was: Varric, where's your beard? You look weird. Isabela, Jack Sparrow with a thong, NEXT! Anders, still on about mages, gawd! Aveline, boring. Merrill, sweet but boring. Fenris, #~@$ emo! Why are your eyebrows black? I forget, were you a slave? I LIED I DIDN'T FORGET BECAUSE YOU DON'T SHUT UP ABOUT THAT AND YOUR HATRED FOR MAGES FOR 10SECONDS!

 

I don't know what changed in the intervening years, but I like almost all of them. And don't worry I'll withhold the assassin regarding Fenris. xD... Maybe. In all seriousness though I don't think I would've liked Fenris half as much as I do now if it wasn't for his romance. I love the drama of it all, and I want to applaud his VA for how his voice breaks when he says "I can't,". I probably just like having my heart broken. ;_; At least he comes back though (and oh! how satisfying it is!).

 

For the rest, I love Varric because how he turns out in Inquisition, my bro for 2 games in a row? Yes please! I could use another Garrus! Merrill I'm conflicted on right now, mainly because I don't like how she's agreeable to demons (I don't care what she or Solas says, there's a difference between Spirits and Demons and that's that!), but at the same time she's so innocent and bit slow on the uptake and I kind of see a bit of myself in her. Aveline's personal quests warmed me up to her quite a lot.

 

Isabela has remained almost unchanged in opinion, but at least I can mod some pants onto her now, and Anders I like less in Awakening (/bricked) because despite how funny he was, he still went on about Mages too freaking much. At least in DA2 he was more about helping other Mages rather than whining about his own persecution.

 

Neither of us experienced Sebastion, since I paid £4.99 for DA2 and all DLC is still £6.99... Yeah I had to be a bit picky on what DLC I pick. Sadly Sebastion didn't make the cut. So... anyway, no opinion on him. x) Although I suspect he would have gotten along with my Cousland since she's a proper little Andrastian.

 

As for Hawke... Sarcastic Hawke slays me. x) I don't think I'd like her any other way though.

[nikki-tikki]

I'm kicking all of you Fenris haters out of the "elf lovers club." Then I will sit on my trash throne and be the president. 

 

Where are they....I will destroy them all. 

[Siha]

Where are they....I will destroy them all. 

 

There is no such thing as a Fenris hater. There are only those who love him too much to admit how much they miss him. Say-no-mean-yes thingy. You know.

[nikki-tikki]

There is no such thing as a Fenris hater. There are only those who love him too much to admit how much they miss him. Say-no-mean-yes thingy. You know.

 

Okay good. Cause I was about to bring out my bat. With the nails in it.

[Armdin]

If that is your motivation, why not pick Vivienne? She even more wants to stick to the status quo and introduce only slight modifications.

 

A couple of reasons, first I don't trust Vivienne in the slightest; she's the least explored companion, and her personal quest was short and fell on its face, so I can only see her as someone looking out for her own gain while holding a bubbled view on Mages and refusing to look outside her own experiences. Secondly, the fact she can be made Divine in the first place completely throws me, I still don't know how that decision came into the picture at all.

 

Without going into a rant, I trust Cassandra more than Vivienne, and Leliana throws too much to the wind. IMO.

[Siha]

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So you do have more reasons than only wanting something close to the status quo for better blending over.

[Meer]

Okay good. Cause I was about to bring out my bat. With the nails in it.

[CapricornSun]

I tried Archer for a bit in DA2 and put it down. It was better done in Origins, but daggers overall feel stronger in both games. If I ever do go back to Origins it'll be as a Warrior, sword and shield, it was fun and I found myself running around as Alistair quite a lot. x)

 

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Oh, when I was watching my partner play it I wanted to throw the companions off a cliff too! My opinion on them at the time was: Varric, where's your beard? You look weird. Isabela, Jack Sparrow with a thong, NEXT! Anders, still on about mages, gawd! Aveline, boring. Merrill, sweet but boring. Fenris, #~@$ emo! Why are your eyebrows black? I forget, were you a slave? I LIED I DIDN'T FORGET BECAUSE YOU DON'T SHUT UP ABOUT THAT AND YOUR HATRED FOR MAGES FOR 10SECONDS!

 

I don't know what changed in the intervening years, but I like almost all of them. And don't worry I'll withhold the assassin regarding Fenris. xD... Maybe. In all seriousness though I don't think I would've liked Fenris half as much as I do now if it wasn't for his romance. I love the drama of it all, and I want to applaud his VA for how his voice breaks when he says "I can't,". I probably just like having my heart broken. ;_; At least he comes back though (and oh! how satisfying it is!).

 

For the rest, I love Varric because how he turns out in Inquisition, my bro for 2 games in a row? Yes please! I could use another Garrus! Merrill I'm conflicted on right now, mainly because I don't like how she's agreeable to demons (I don't care what she or Solas says, there's a difference between Spirits and Demons and that's that!), but at the same time she's so innocent and bit slow on the uptake and I kind of see a bit of myself in her. Aveline's personal quests warmed me up to her quite a lot.

 

Isabela has remained almost unchanged in opinion, but at least I can mod some pants onto her now, and Anders I like less in Awakening (/bricked) because despite how funny he was, he still went on about Mages too freaking much. At least in DA2 he was more about helping other Mages rather than whining about his own persecution.

 

Neither of us experienced Sebastion, since I paid £4.99 for DA2 and all DLC is still £6.99... Yeah I had to be a bit picky on what DLC I pick. Sadly Sebastion didn't make the cut. So... anyway, no opinion on him. x) Although I suspect he would have gotten along with my Cousland since she's a proper little Andrastian.

 

As for Hawke... Sarcastic Hawke slays me. x) I don't think I'd like her any other way though.

 

Oh you liked the Archer class in DAO? xD Okay then, hehe. My Mahariel was a sword and shield warrior too and it was pretty fun shield bashing enemies while trying to protect your squishier companions. xD

 

It's been a while since I've played DA2 so I don't know if my opinions on the DA2 companions will change. I really should pick it up and play it again but I'm afraid it's only going to elicit a negative reaction from me again. 

 

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And I was wondering when the reactions from Fenris fans on this thread was going to appear. Apparently it's okay to talk crap about other characters but saying you don't like Fenris is a big no-no.   I get it now...

[nikki-tikki]

 

 

And I was wondering when the reactions from Fenris fans on this thread was going to appear. Apparently it's okay to talk crap about other characters but saying you don't like Fenris is a big no-no.   I get it now...

 

Yeah I'm the biggest hypocrite when it comes to talking about characters. I run my mouth about Anders all the time, but you start saying **** about my Fenris then **** is going down....

[Armdin]

Oh you liked the Archer class in DAO? xD Okay then, hehe. My Mahariel was a sword and shield warrior too and it was pretty fun shield bashing enemies while trying to protect your squishier companions. xD

 

It's been a while since I've played DA2 so I don't know if my opinions on the DA2 companions will change. I really should pick it up and play it again but I'm afraid it's only going to elicit a negative reaction from me again. 

 

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And I was wondering when the reactions from Fenris fans on this thread was going to appear. Apparently it's okay to talk crap about other characters but saying you don't like Fenris is a big no-no.   I get it now...

 

Well, the way I saw it, Archer gave me time to despair over the combat and weep into my keyboard while I waited for everything to come off cooldown. xD I had to give it up to fight Loghain since it was impossible even on the Normal difficulty, and I enjoyed the daggers, but I missed twanging bits of woods at people.

 

I think people are just joking. I hope so anyway. x)

 

Oh, I'd also say DA2 is good to me because of the community! I've been following a few Solas tumblrs (to fill the void! Urgh! *drama*) and one of them in particular seems to have warm fuzzies about DA2s companions, especially Fenris, and I think that rubbed off on me, quite a bit.

[Maria13]

There is no such thing as a Fenris hater. There are only those who love him too much to admit how much they miss him. Say-no-mean-yes thingy. You know.

 

But can we not be indifferent to Fenris? Frankly, I never cared that much for the guy...

[BoscoBread]

A couple of reasons, first I don't trust Vivienne in the slightest; she's the least explored companion, and her personal quest was short and fell on its face, so I can only see her as someone looking out for her own gain while holding a bubbled view on Mages and refusing to look outside her own experiences. Secondly, the fact she can be made Divine in the first place completely throws me, I still don't know how that decision came into the picture at all.

 

Without going into a rant, I trust Cassandra more than Vivienne, and Leliana throws too much to the wind. IMO.

I think that's on purpose. I actually really adore Viv's character but she's been playing the game her whole life and does not hide the fact that, at the end of the day, SHE is #1.  So that's how think when I deal with her, but I do believe - if you're friends with her - she is sincere. She really does like you and does respect you.  I do agree though - I trust Cassandra more than Vivienne - but I hate discounting her because her opinion on mages makes me annoyed.  

[Armdin]

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http://miyku.tumblr....st/112353651702

 

Oh look I'm on topic!

[MoonDrummer]

Where are they....I will destroy them all. 

Calm down, I only sold him to Danarius twice... 

[nikki-tikki]

But can we not be indifferent to Fenris? Frankly, I never cared that much for the guy...

 

I will suffer indifference...but nothing more.

[nikki-tikki]

Calm down, I only sold him to Danarius twice... 

 

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[Siha]

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I thought you said you were looking for this

 

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[Armdin]

I think that's on purpose. I actually really adore Viv's character but she's been playing the game her whole life and does not hide the fact that, at the end of the day, SHE is #1.  So that's how think when I deal with her, but I do believe - if you're friends with her - she is sincere. She really does like you and does respect you.  I do agree though - I trust Cassandra more than Vivienne - but I hate discounting her because her opinion on mages makes me annoyed.  

 

I'm willing to like Vivenne's character, but we don't get so really explore it at all. . It doesn't offer you the chance to see inside her character except at her lover's death, and even then it's so short and cold I can't help but think she's just putting on a show for me, perhaps not necessarily for any malicious reasons. I want to like her. I like how she calls everyone "darling" and "dear", and I love her interactions with Bull, but... meh. Maybe Wicked Hearts would have been a good place to explore it, or taking her to the Fade.

 

Hell, even her biggest fear "Irrelevance" just makes me [disgusted noise] so hard. T_T

[drake2511]

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http://miyku.tumblr....st/112353651702

 

Oh look I'm on topic!

Lol, Solas looks so tired of our ****.
"Ahaha that's a good one, Vhenan!" Thinking: "I'm so dumping her."

 

Edit: ToP baldie angel

[MoonDrummer]

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Never been so glad for the existence of the Atlantic ocean... 

[nikki-tikki]

I thought you said you were looking for this

 

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Thank you Siha. I thought I had misplaced it. 

 

[Illyria]

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And I was wondering when the reactions from Fenris fans on this thread was going to appear. Apparently it's okay to talk crap about other characters but saying you don't like Fenris is a big no-no.   I get it now...

 

I'd have the same reaction to people taking crap about Cole or Carver.  Although I had to give up on the 'defending Carver' thing.  People just love to talk crap about my precious baby brother.

[Armdin]

[Desperately Trying To Be On-Topic So Sharing Some Tumblr Explorations] Mode Activated.

 

Blow is a lot of text, but makes me laugh so much:

http://femharel.tumb...ers-because-its

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I cherish Solas romancers, because it’s like—imagine you get to go on a dating show. You’re sitting in the hot seat and—assuming you make a female Lavellan—you have six contestants you can choose from. Not three like on normal dating shows; you get six. 

Now, let’s say you ask these contestants your first question. Say, you ask them to describe their ideal date.

• Contestant #1 talks about how they like pulling pranks, and afterwards, they’ll take you to a rooftop to eat cookies.
• Contestant #2 is a hopeless romantic who wants to snuggle by the fire and have you spin them around in the air.
• Contestant #3 has had a more troubled past, but they adore you—and anything you want to do, they are game for; they are submissive and ready to serve.
• Contestant #4 is anything but submissive, they counter; their ideal date is all about danger: dragon-hunting and deadly sport. 
• Contestant #5 seems the intellectual; they want to play chess with you, all the while marvelling that someone as amazing as you wants to spend time with them. 
• Then there’s Contestant #6, who answers that they’ll tell you all about the boring dreams they had, insult your tattoos, touch your butt, and then dump you. That is their ideal date.

“That one,” the Solasmancer says. “I want that one.”

“Are you certain?” The host is concerned—because these contestants aren’t even behind doors like on normal dating shows. You can see exactly what they look like. No tricks. No deception. You can like what you hear and what you see, and then decide to date them.

• Contestant #1 is a puckish rogue with a mischievous smile, button nose, and a face full of freckles.
• Contestant #2 bears a beautiful aquiline nose, with full dark hair and dangerous eyes.
• Contestant #3 has that hot older man thing going for him, with grey in his beard, and firm strong hands from wood-working.
• Contestant #4 has an eyepatch and the horns of a powerful animal, with a thick muscled torso like a tree trunk.
• Contestant #5 looks like a prince out of a childhood fairy-tale fantasy, with golden-spun hair and a lion-like cloak.
• Then there’s Contestant #6 again, whose head has been aptly compared to an over-boiled egg, who wears pyjamas as day clothes, and refuses to wear shoes like an actual person.

“That one,” the Solasmancer whispers again. “I choose him forever.”

Bless you, Solas romancers. I will always love you, as Solas does. Maybe. Probably. (Just wait to confirm in the DLC.)