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[Armdin]

It begins. /drowns in shirts

 

 

Also I may or may not be dying of the flu. Please send waffles. 

 

I could send you a song about waffles? *pats from a distance*

 

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[Uirebhiril]

But did Solas break it off to "protect" Lavellan? That's the cliche crap you usually see that's supposed to be all noble and romantic, but what I took away from it was that he couldn't bring himself to tell her the truth for whatever reason - and then couldn't continue on with her while being dishonest. It was his choice to make, so good for him... but I don't get the "I left you to protect you" crap. He left her to stay true to himself and his goals.

[Mims]

But did Solas break it off to "protect" Lavellan? That's the cliche crap you usually see that's supposed to be all noble and romantic, but what I took away from it was that he couldn't bring himself to tell her the truth for whatever reason - and then couldn't continue on with her while being dishonest. It was his choice to make, so good for him... but I don't get the "I left you to protect you" crap. He left her to stay true to himself and his goals.

 

Hard to say, until we know what his goals are. He doesn't say anything about Lavellan, but he wiped Cole's mind because he didn't want to involve him. 

 

Personally I'd say its a bit of both. He clearly thinks whatever he's doing is going to lead to suffering, hence why he wouldn't wish it on an enemy. 

[Solas]

But did Solas break it off to "protect" Lavellan? That's the cliche crap you usually see that's supposed to be all noble and romantic, but what I took away from it was that he couldn't bring himself to tell her the truth for whatever reason - and then couldn't continue on with her while being dishonest. It was his choice to make, so good for him... but I don't get the "I left you to protect you" crap. He left her to stay true to himself and his goals.

I agree but also with mims in it being a bit of both

 

Part of it as well for me is, she's too real. It's harder for him to go ahead with his plans if the present time that he lives in is real - and she makes it real. If it's real it changes everything

but it can't.

[Armdin]

Hard to say, until we know what his goals are. He doesn't say anything about Lavellan, but he wiped Cole's mind because he didn't want to involve him. 

 

Personally I'd say its a bit of both. He clearly thinks whatever he's doing is going to lead to suffering, hence why he wouldn't wish it on an enemy. 

 

About that, do we know if Cole's forgotten Solas entirely, or just what he learned about him? I want to hope for the latter, but Cole never tells us about Solas's past or anything so I can't see how he'd find it a danger, aside from Cole wanting to go and help him from whatever this suffering he's heading towards.

 

If his intention is to free the Pantheon (and possibly the Forgotten Ones as a result), I can't imagine they'll forgive him. They'll want to kill him, and perhaps not too quickly.

 

Urgh, I feel awful now. ;_; In answer to Solas (OP)'s question, if the above happens she'd definitely go to protect him, answers or no. Actively help him, though? I don't think Solas would let her, regardless of whether she wants to or not.

[Avejajed]

"I left you to protect you" are usually said by a coward.

[Mims]

Weekes has said that he only forgot Solas's plans, not Solas himself. So not too bad! 

[AryBoBary]

But did Solas break it off to "protect" Lavellan? That's the cliche crap you usually see that's supposed to be all noble and romantic, but what I took away from it was that he couldn't bring himself to tell her the truth for whatever reason - and then couldn't continue on with her while being dishonest. It was his choice to make, so good for him... but I don't get the "I left you to protect you" crap. He left her to stay true to himself and his goals.

 

I agree, he set out on a path long ago, and can't be deterred.

 

That being said...

 

I think he also broke it off because, well, she's kind of mortal, and he's not.  Not that the two can't have true feelings, but it seems cruel in the long run, it's not like she can't go riding off into the eternal sunset with him.

 

Unless the mark makes her immortal! OOOooooOOOOHHHHHHhhhhh! 

[Cee]

I tend to think he just made Cole forget certain details, as well as shut him out of his head entirely because Solas could avoid Leliana's agents, but Cole could find him. He doesn't want to be found so he cut off the loose end.

 

I hope that's the extent of it, anyhow.

[Armdin]

Weekes has said that he only forgot Solas's plans, not Solas himself. So not too bad! 

*breathes a bit easier*

[Arlee]

But did Solas break it off to "protect" Lavellan? That's the cliche crap you usually see that's supposed to be all noble and romantic, but what I took away from it was that he couldn't bring himself to tell her the truth for whatever reason - and then couldn't continue on with her while being dishonest. It was his choice to make, so good for him... but I don't get the "I left you to protect you" crap. He left her to stay true to himself and his goals.

 

I thought Patrick Weeks had confirmed that was the deal awhile ago?

[Cee]

I agree, he set out on a path long ago, and can't be deterred.

 

That being said...

 

I think he also broke it off because, well, she's kind of mortal, and he's not.  Not that the two can't have true feelings, but it seems cruel in the long run, it's not like she can't go riding off into the eternal sunset with him.

 

Unless the mark makes her immortal! OOOooooOOOOHHHHHHhhhhh! 

 

 

Well if one of the things he's trying to restore is elven immortality and magic....

 

Speculation but his talk hints at the Veil possibly blocking that connection, about certain things potentially still being innate in the elven people, even if they can no longer access it and are mortal...

 

We'll see, I guess. Still, I don't think that she's mortal is an automatic end things factor even if she's always going to be mortal.

[Uirebhiril]

I agree but also with mims in it being a bit of both

 

Part of it as well for me is, she's too real. It's harder for him to go ahead with his plans if the present time that he lives in is real - and she makes it real. If it's real it changes everything

but it can't.

 

Yes, exactly. She's making it hard on him, distracting him from his duty or goal. He might not want her to get involved with it, but I don't see it as meant to "keep her safe." For heck's sake, she's been in and out of danger and trouble up until that point. She can clearly hold her own. He's not going to slap the back of his hand to her forehead with some woe and angst idea that he must "protect" her. My Lavellan would offer him a rude gesture for the overly dramatic notion.

 

Naturally, god-level stuff might be a bit beyond Lavellan's abilities even so, but I just don't see that as the reason he dropped her and ran. Not when other things, most especially Patrick's interview, point to it being something else entirely.

[Armdin]

I agree, he set out on a path long ago, and can't be deterred.

 

That being said...

 

I think he also broke it off because, well, she's kind of mortal, and he's not.  Not that the two can't have true feelings, but it seems cruel in the long run, it's not like she can't go riding off into the eternal sunset with him.

 

Unless the mark makes her immortal! OOOooooOOOOHHHHHHhhhhh! 

 

OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!! I like it!

[RynJ]

But did Solas break it off to "protect" Lavellan? That's the cliche crap you usually see that's supposed to be all noble and romantic, but what I took away from it was that he couldn't bring himself to tell her the truth for whatever reason - and then couldn't continue on with her while being dishonest. It was his choice to make, so good for him... but I don't get the "I left you to protect you" crap. He left her to stay true to himself and his goals.

 

It's mostly that he left to stay true to himself and his goals. It may also have been partially that he knows his plans might sound bad on paper (or would actually be bad for a modern Thedas citizen) and the Inquisitor might be inclined to stop him.

 

I think it might partially have been to "protect" her, or at least keep her from having to walk a dark path with him. I don't get as up in arms about this possibility as some seem to. Not wanting someone to follow you down a crappy road doesn't automatically mean you think they're weak. Someone could be 10x stronger than me and I still wouldn't want them to follow me into pain and misery if I could help it. Solas obviously knows Lavellan is capable, since he supported her going up against Corypheus and helped facilitate their eventual showdown. I don't jump to the conclusion that leaving her to "protect her" means he thinks she's weak. 

 

But mostly I think it's about him and his goals and his trying his hardest to obtain some kind of purity of purpose a la the spirits he admires so much. And believing that Lavellan can distract him from that. The tragedy of this is that he can never do that, no matter how much he wants to. I think that's the meaning behind Cole's "it changes everything, but it can't" that he read from Solas' mind. It's actually that conversation that makes me think that whatever he's planning isn't necessarily good for modern Thedosians or will cause some measure of destruction.

 

On another note, what do you think we'd find out if there was ever a Wolf Hunt DLC? Obviously not everything, kind of like Witch Hunt left more questions than answers. I imagine we wouldn't find out Solas' exact plans, but the Inquisitor might find out that he's Fen'Harel and I think we would get filled in on what happened between Solas waking up and Solas showing up to help the Inquisitor. Including how exactly Corypheus got hold of that orb. 

[Solas]

I don't subscribe to the her being mortal/him being immortal (if he truly is) being an issue thing

 

it worked fine for aragorn and arwen i mean yeah she died of a broken heart but after a happy life and having children with the dude she loved

mortal-mortal pairings end in "someone died of a broken heart when the other died" all the time anyway.

[SerendipitousElf]

Every ending I envision for solas involves my lavellan having to kill him ahaha

 

Let's talk about a hypothetical scenario for a moment.

 

I sometimes see people saying they hope their Lavellans can help Solas with his plans. If his plans are indeed to release the rest of the elven "gods" (that's the assumption for the scenario).. can anyone in this position explain to me why they [their Lavellans] would do that? Is it for love? Releasing the gods seems like a terrible idea to me lol.

 

Didn't we have enough of Anders?  I am totally opposed to the idea of repeating this old stereotypical ending we had in the previous two games.

It is time to move on to something more refreshing.

 

I want to be the villain Lavellan and join forces with Solas this time to make the shemlen pay for the 1000 years slavery of elves and for making them mortal.  If it involves opening up the heavens with the mark - even better. Bring in the music and let the elven gods dance.

[Abelas Forever!]

But did Solas break it off to "protect" Lavellan? That's the cliche crap you usually see that's supposed to be all noble and romantic, but what I took away from it was that he couldn't bring himself to tell her the truth for whatever reason - and then couldn't continue on with her while being dishonest. It was his choice to make, so good for him... but I don't get the "I left you to protect you" crap. He left her to stay true to himself and his goals.

I believe that he left Lavellan because his mission was more important to him than their relationship and I don't think he did it to protect her. However I think he truly loves her but he can't abandon his mission. Besides it would have been a huge risk to tell her everything because she might not have understood and what if she would have tried to stop him? That would have been a disaster.

[RoraM]

Let's talk about a hypothetical scenario for a moment.

 

I sometimes see people saying they hope their Lavellans can help Solas with his plans. If his plans are indeed to release the rest of the elven "gods" (that's the assumption for the scenario).. can anyone in this position explain to me why they [their Lavellans] would do that? Is it for love? Releasing the gods seems like a terrible idea to me lol.

 

I know, especially Falon'Din.  I don't think anyone can put a positive spin on "the blood of those who wouldn't bow low filled lakes as wide as oceans".   There's a reason Fen'Harel imprisoned but did not kill Falon'Din:  "One does not lightly kill a god, Inquisitor.  Even in legend."  Now, June, I wouldn't mind, as I'm all about the crafting.  Dirthamen, only if he promised not to try to free his twin Falon'Din, but, then again, I don't know if I would trust him to keep that promise.  So, perhaps ixnay on the od-gay of ecrets-say.  As for Andruil, she sounds all kinds of crazy and perhaps would be best left where she is.  Ditto for Elgar'nan.  Ghilan'nain I'm still on the fence about, but Sylaise sounds like the kind of god who would fix you a cup of tea, or perhaps cocoa with lots of teeny-tiny marshmallows floating in it, and feed you sandwiches with the crusts cut off by the fireside.  I could easily worship a god like that.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I don't subscribe to the her being mortal/him being immortal (if he truly is) being an issue thing

 

If there was nothing else going on, I think it could be an issue.  But as it is, there are so many other problems in the Solavellan relationship that I think lifespan is the least of anyone's worries.  They can start with the whole "lying jerkface god who keeps too many secrets" thing and work their way down from there 

[Mims]

I think it might partially have been to "protect" her, or at least keep her from having to walk a dark path with him. I don't get as up in arms about this possibility as some seem to. Not wanting someone to follow you down a crappy road doesn't automatically mean you think they're weak. Someone could be 10x stronger than me and I still wouldn't want them to follow me into pain and misery if I could help it. Solas obviously knows Lavellan is capable, since he supported her going up against Corypheus and helped facilitate their eventual showdown. I don't jump to the conclusion that leaving her to "protect her" means he thinks she's weak. 

 

 

Yeah, this is definitely more along what I mean. It isn't that he doesn't think Lavellan is strong, its more like: "Do I really want someone I love to come with me on this one way trip off a cliff?" 

[Delphine]

Don't judge me. 

 

 

I'm not, I've watched 3 or 4 seasons of both, until I dropped them because of too many plot holes shenanigans and inexistent scenarios, especially for PLL. If anything, I'm amazed people are still watching these shows.

 

[MoonDrummer]

I know, especially Falon'Din.  I don't think anyone can put a positive spin on "the blood of those who wouldn't bow low filled lakes as wide as oceans".   There's a reason Fen'Harel imprisoned but did not kill Falon'Din:  "One does not lightly kill a god, Inquisitor.  Even in legend."  Now, June, I wouldn't mind, as I'm all about the crafting.  Dirthamen, only if he promised not to try to free his twin Falon'Din, but, then again, I don't know if I would trust him to keep that promise.  So, perhaps ixnay on the od-gay of ecrets-say.  As for Andruil, she sounds all kinds of crazy and perhaps would be best left where she is.  Ditto for Elgar'nan.  Ghilan'nain I'm still on the fence about, but Sylaise sounds like the kind of god who would fix you a cup of tea, or perhaps cocoa with lots of teeny-tiny marshmallows floating in it, and feed you sandwiches with the crusts cut off by the fireside.  I could easily worship a god like that.

lol I could imagine Solas trying to convince me to free Falon'Din

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[RoraM]

[Maria13]

A bunch of art

 

Solas and Lavellan

http://yuhime.devian...prize-520577103

 

Dang that's a lot of hair

http://voxxvi.devian...hiral-520563615

 

Monk Solas

http://zielle.devian...ation-520543035

 

Sketches

http://tamarandom.de...rtoon-520524021

 

I love this one

http://aimo.devianta...Solas-520501077

 

What kind of healer hates tea?

http://reaperclamp.d...Solas-520497994

 

Elves in Black 2

http://aroihkin.devi...ck-II-520487373

 

And some Samson love (I know there are a few of you in here)

http://sheepboi.devi...shing-520557957

http://sheepboi.devi...amson-520517666

http://sheepboi.devi...-time-520513355

 

Thank you! I like the Aimo one so much I've just bought the T shirt...