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[DarthEmpress]

Scenario #1: DA4 with new protagonist.  Solas dies alone (either killed by new protagonist, killed defending new protagonist, or self-sacrifice to save blah blah blah).  Lavellan doesn't know.  She's barely mentioned except in the final moments of his last breath.  Woo.

 

Scenario #2:  Solas dies in Lavellan's arms.  Either she had to kill him, he was killed by blah booty blah, or he did self-sacrifice.

 

Scenario #3:  Solas kills Lavellan for her mark in DLC or at the start of DA4.  New protagonist comes in and repeat Scenario #1.

 

Scenario #4:  Lavellan sacrifices herself for Solas.  She dies in his arms.  He like probably tries to send her spirit into the Fade or whatever so she can live on and he can eventually join her.

 

Scenario #5:  Lavellan and Solas die together.  How and why, no clue.  But they're dead.  At the same time.  Hoo yah no dying alone.

 

Scenario #6:  Lavellan saves Solas and together they go into Uthenera once their business is complete.

 

[KarateKats]

Found it. It is in the first room in Redcliffe, that has a Rift in it.

Go to timestamp 46:29.

Very cool. I could definitely see the heap of bodies piled in the middle it looks like. I wonder what the orientation of all the specific details are. I think I'm going to hop into game and give that quest a go. Thank you for this! Makes me curious where else it might pop up.

[Avejajed]

Scenario #1: DA4 with new protagonist. Solas dies alone (either killed by new protagonist, killed defending new protagonist, or self-sacrifice to save blah blah blah). Lavellan doesn't know. She's barely mentioned except in the final moments of his last breath. Woo.

Scenario #2: Solas dies in Lavellan's arms. Either she had to kill him, he was killed by blah booty blah, or he did self-sacrifice.

Scenario #3: Solas kills Lavellan for her mark in DLC or at the start of DA4. New protagonist comes in and repeat Scenario #1.

Scenario #4: Lavellan sacrifices herself for Solas. She dies in his arms. He like probably tries to send her spirit into the Fade or whatever so she can live on and he can eventually join her.

Scenario #5: Lavellan and Solas die together. How and why, no clue. But they're dead. At the same time. Hoo yah no dying alone.

Scenario #6: Lavellan saves Solas and together they go into Uthenera once their business is complete.

I see you there JT!

Anyway, senario #7: Solas and Revas bring back the nice old gods and rule together, smiting all who dare ruin their reign.

[Delphine]

Scenario #1: DA4 with new protagonist.  Solas dies alone (either killed by new protagonist, killed defending new protagonist, or self-sacrifice to save blah blah blah).  Lavellan doesn't know.  She's barely mentioned except in the final moments of his last breath.  Woo.

 

Scenario #2:  Solas dies in Lavellan's arms.  Either she had to kill him, he was killed by blah booty blah, or he did self-sacrifice.

 

Scenario #3:  Solas kills Lavellan for her mark in DLC or at the start of DA4.  New protagonist comes in and repeat Scenario #1.

 

Scenario #4:  Lavellan sacrifices herself for Solas.  She dies in his arms.  He like probably tries to send her spirit into the Fade or whatever so she can live on and he can eventually join her.

 

Scenario #5:  Lavellan and Solas die together.  How and why, no clue.  But they're dead.  At the same time.  Hoo yah no dying alone.

 

Scenario #6:  Lavellan saves Solas and together they go into Uthenera once their business is complete.

 

Well, aren't we a bundle of joy tonight?

 

[RoraM]

Question about the orb:

Spoiler

When the Inquisitor takes the orb from Corypheus and closes the Breach, does anyone else find it significant that it clunks to the ground seemingly emptied of power? Solas admits he was "too weak to unlock it after [his] slumber", implying that what it contained required release. When Solas finds the shattered orb, it would not be unreasonable for him to have missed the part where it was emptied prior to its destruction (regardless of whether he was part of your team or with the others on the ground, fighting demons). I wonder if that power was then transferred to the Inquisitor. If so, perhaps the upcoming DLC/game will feature Solas trying to retake what he lost...

[Meer]

Elgar'nan [something/rage? we don't know what corrupts into rage. maybe valor]

Dirthamen ??

Sylaise ??

June ??

Sylaise might have been compassion to start, since fire often represents comfort and warmth. As for June, he might have become sloth, since he's basically the god of enterprise to start with.

[RynJ]

I just think people are...well I'm not going to say delusional about Solas, because YMMV, right, but let's get real.

We don't know anything . All we know is that he cared for us truly, and we don't even know that's true from Solas himself because he dumped us, we only know that because his writer told us so.

But the rest? Speculation.

 

Isn't the extent of his lying also speculation? 

 

I also think that when we speculate about the future of Solas in regards to the Inquisitor, we should think about all Inquisitors and not just a romanced Lavellan. I doubt there will be any enormous deviation in the story depending on if you romanced him or not, especially since he's kind of a small romance. But hey, BioWare could surprise me!

[Sable Rhapsody]

Scenario 8: Solas and Lavellan say "F*** DAT THEDAS" and ride off to some happier universe on an interdimensional unicorn.

[coldwetn0se]

My one hope, regardless of how things turn out overall, is that Solas continues to exist. I can only speak for myself, but I find his potential story scope to be quite wide, extensive. Like Flemythal, he has existed in the mythos of these games/books, longer than just this single entry. To have him die (killed or otherwise), just seems...anticlimactic. A limited resource, when he could be more.

Not saying he will be, simply hoping.

[Armdin]

I've also been thinking... Solas says he doesn't believe the ancient elven gods were gods, but maybe they were mages, or spirits or something we've never seen.

 

Taking the idea that they were all spirits (or spirits in some form, such as spirits joined with mortals like Anders and Justice) and running with it... 

 

I think it could go a long way to explaining the two sides most of the gods seem to have. Think about it. Spirits and demons. Demons are the corrupted aspect of a spirit.

 

You've got Fen'Harel, who is clearly Wisdom - Pride.

Then there's Mythal, who seems to be Justice - Vengeance.

Falon'Din... Purpose (see his purpose in guiding the dead, similar to how Solas says spirits of Purpose have helped him search the Fade) - Desire (see his adulation for worship).

 

Wisdom/Pride, Justice/Vengeance and Purpose/Desire are known corruptions. tho it should be noted gaider once said faith can also corrupt into pride.

 

Elgar'nan... [spirit] - Rage. The corruption of Valor perhaps?

 

and so on

 

See where I'm going here?

 

I love this, I liked the comment but take a heart too.

 

That said, I don't entirely subscribe to the idea of Solas being a spirit hybrid. I thought perhaps Falon'Din and his twin brother/soul were of the Anders/Justice type relationship, and it's not such a stretch to consider the rest as such too. I only seperate Solas/Fen'Harel because I don't believe he was a god in the same way the others of the pantheon were. He definitely seems like an outsider to me. At the very least, I think he was uplifted in a similar manner as Ghilthingy (Halla-mother), perhaps by Mythal?

[Delphine]

Question about the orb:

Spoiler

When the Inquisitor takes the orb from Corypheus and closes the Breach, does anyone else find it significant that it clunks to the ground seemingly emptied of power? Solas admits he was "too weak to unlock it after [his] slumber", implying that what it contained required release. When Solas finds the shattered orb, it would not be unreasonable for him to have missed the part where it was emptied prior to its destruction (either as part of your team or with the others on the ground, fighting demons). I wonder if that power was then transferred to the Inquisitor. If so, perhaps the upcoming DLC/game will feature Solas trying to retake his lost power...

 

It's a regular theory that Solas might come back for the mark on the Inquisitor's hand, that now might contain the power of the entire orb. If the orb was used to seal the gods away, it can also undo it, and now, by all logic, that power lies within the Inquisitor.

 

Scenario 8: Solas and Lavellan say "F*** DAT THEDAS" and ride off to some happier universe on an interdimensional unicorn.

 

This is now headcanon.

[KarateKats]

Question about the orb:

Spoiler

When the Inquisitor takes the orb from Corypheus and closes the Breach, does anyone else find it significant that it clunks to the ground seemingly emptied of power? Solas admits he was "too weak to unlock it after [his] slumber", implying that what it contained required release. When Solas finds the shattered orb, it would not be unreasonable for him to have missed the part where it was emptied prior to its destruction (either as part of your team or with the others on the ground, fighting demons). I wonder if that power was then transferred to the Inquisitor. If so, perhaps the upcoming DLC/game will feature Solas trying to retake his lost power...

I think this is an idea that a few of us have tossed around... especially after those teasing tweets by PW. It would make sense that the reason it broke was because it was empty and therefore had no magic protecting it. Is it Dagna that calls the anchor both a key and a lock? I think whatever Solas wants to do he's going to do it and it'll be our choice to either help him or not with the anchor in the DLC.

[Solas]

I love this, I liked the comment but take a heart too.

 

That said, I don't entirely subscribe to the idea of Solas being a spirit hybrid. I thought perhaps Falon'Din and his twin brother/soul were of the Anders/Justice type relationship, and it's not such a stretch to consider the rest as such too. I only seperate Solas/Fen'Harel because I don't believe he was a god in the same way the others of the pantheon were. He definitely seems like an outsider to me. At the very least, I think he was uplifted in a similar manner as Ghilthingy (Halla-mother), perhaps by Mythal?

 

in this you have Falon'Din/Dirthamen, Andruil/Sylaise and Elgar'nan/Mythal.. what of June?

[Solas]

Sylaise might have been compassion to start, since fire often represents comfort and warmth. As for June, he might have become sloth, since he's basically the god of enterprise to start with.

Neat! I love especially Sylaise as compassion. maybe that corrupts into rage.. her heat is said to rival elgar'nan's light and rage demons are on fire..

[Armdin]

Isn't the extent of his lying also speculation? 

 

I also think that when we speculate about the future of Solas in regards to the Inquisitor, we should think about all Inquisitors and not just a romanced Lavellan. I doubt there will be any enormous deviation in the story depending on if you romanced him or not, especially since he's kind of a small romance. But hey, BioWare could surprise me!

 

This is why we need Wolf Hunt! Although playing that DLC for the first time last week with a character who didn't romance her, or want to kill her... It felt a bit flat. I was confused as to why I was even going after her in the first place. I trusted her to keep her word to keep her OG-baby to herself, and to not try and contend for the throne. At the very least I was worried about her as a friend, but there was no way I'd be willing to traipse through a magic mirror with her and leave Alistair behind so... What was the point?

 

If we do get Wolf Hunt, I could see Inquisitor's who didn't romance Solas feeling the same way. I hope if they do let us go after him, they'll make it worthwhile for all Quizzys. 

[KarateKats]

 

in this you have Falon'Din/Dirthamen, Andruil/Sylaise and Elgar'nan/Mythal.. what of June?

Pretty sure June is a glamour toad and / or a dwarf.

[RoraM]

We don't know anything . All we know is that he cared for us truly, and we don't even know that's true from Solas himself because he dumped us, we only know that because his writer told us so.

But the rest? Speculation.

 

If one's premise is that Solas is a liar and never tells the truth, then him saying, "No matter what comes, I want you to know what we had was real" (00:47) will not be evidence of his love and the only proof one will accept will be that of his writer.

 

If, however, one holds the premise that Solas usually tells the truth, but omits vital information in the process, that makes his character less black and white and it would be safe to believe that he did care for the Inquisitor.

[Meer]

Pretty sure June is a glamour toad and / or a dwarf.

Have I ever told you guys the first time I heard the term "glamour toad," I thought we were talking about this guy:

Spoiler

but bedazzled.

[Dark_Rogue]

I find myself bored and lurking, so I'm trying to work out the Dirthamen in the whole spirit/demon theory

 

From the story of being separated from his brother and not being able to follow him, I want to say...possessiveness?  Perhaps even Envy?  There's not much else I can think of for a God that represents secrets (unless "Gossip is a sin")

[Armdin]

Question about the orb:

Spoiler

When the Inquisitor takes the orb from Corypheus and closes the Breach, does anyone else find it significant that it clunks to the ground seemingly emptied of power? Solas admits he was "too weak to unlock it after [his] slumber", implying that what it contained required release. When Solas finds the shattered orb, it would not be unreasonable for him to have missed the part where it was emptied prior to its destruction (regardless of whether he was part of your team or with the others on the ground, fighting demons). I wonder if that power was then transferred to the Inquisitor. If so, perhaps the upcoming DLC/game will feature Solas trying to retake what he lost...

 

I thought it was sort of obvious the rest of the Orb's power transferred to the Inquisitor. The first time we closed the Breach, we needed the Templars/Mages to support us, the second time the Breach is even bigger than before with a buttload of the Fade falling out of it, AND the remainders of the Temple being lifted in the air, we required no aid whatsoever. I'm looking forward to seeing what we'll be able to do with the Anchor in future DLCs, gameplay-wise.

 

I would suspect that he'd come back to take the power, but from what Corypheus says it can't be removed without the Inquisitor's death... Chilling. ;_;

[Patchwork]

Fen'Harel - wisdom/pride [obvious imo. this is a confirmed corruption]

Mythal - justice/vengeance [obvious imo. confirmed corruption]

Falon'din - purpose/desire [my best guess, see previous post for why. a confirmed corruption]

Andruil - survival/hunger [my best guess. hunting for survival, eventually hungered to hunt more challenging prey in the void, hunger-sacrifice link etc. a confirmed corruption]

 

note corruptions are not always linear; pride can also be a corruption of faith for example

 

we need to map the rest 

 

Elgar'nan [something/rage? we don't know what corrupts into rage. maybe valor]

Dirthamen ??

Sylaise ??

June ??

 

Elgar'nan- command/rage?

Dirthamen - wisdom/despair -I know Solas' friend went Pride but it makes sense to me that knowledge can lead to despair plus it fits in nicely with his ravens Fear and Deceit. 

Sylaise-  compassion/fear -her role is caretaker healing, feeding, shelter etc but a lot of things can go wrong hence fear.

June- purpose/sloth - I know you used purpose already but he's such an industrial dwarf god and even on the wiki it say "the elves wandered the forests without purpose" 

[BoscoBread]

This is why we need Wolf Hunt! Although playing that DLC for the first time last week with a character who didn't romance her, or want to kill her... It felt a bit flat. I was confused as to why I was even going after her in the first place. I trusted her to keep her word to keep her OG-baby to herself, and to not try and contend for the throne. At the very least I was worried about her as a friend, but there was no way I'd be willing to traipse through a magic mirror with her and leave Alistair behind so... What was the point?

 

If we do get Wolf Hunt, I could see Inquisitor's who didn't romance Solas feeling the same way. I hope if they do let us go after him, they'll make it worthwhile for all Quizzys. 

Seriously. I thought it was really kind of poignant. I mean - yeah - the reason you go after her is super thin but other than that...sad. You're saying good bye. She was my Warden's bff.   I was sad for my warden.

[DarthEmpress]

Scenario 8: Solas and Lavellan say "F*** DAT THEDAS" and ride off to some happier universe on an interdimensional unicorn.

 

Weekes would never allow this scenario unless we promise him all our first borns.  Think Rumpelstiltskin but with the power to break hearts instead of spin straw into gold.

 

Scenario #9: Solas and Lavellan rule the new Arlathan as King and Queen 8)

[Armdin]

 

in this you have Falon'Din/Dirthamen, Andruil/Sylaise and Elgar'nan/Mythal.. what of June?

 

June has no one!

 

I didn't actually mean the rest of the pantheon as being "merged" in the same way as Falon'Din/Dirthamen, I see Falon/Dirth as a singular exception to that, and I was agreeing with the rest of your speculation, but looking back at my comment I can see I wasn't too clear about that. My apologies.

[Solas]

June has no one!

time to start shipping DA4 PC with June LOL holla