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That's why I'm preparing my feels for when we do Wolf Hunt, having everything she thought she'd dealt with being dragged back up once she sees him again :(

 

Oh, that is not going to be one of my Lavellan's finest moments, I can already tell.

 

I did Vivienne's companion quest where Bastien dies just before the Temple of Mythal, and I was impressed by how she holds it together like a boss, despite it being clear (at least IMO) that it hit her pretty hard.  So while Dorian and Cole and the others are there for my Lavellan, it's Vivienne who teaches her how to compose herself in front of others.  It was Vivienne who taught her to play the Great Game.  Solas is going to be in for a nasty surprise when they see each other again, and my Lavellan shows him nothing at all.


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Satan: Aren't divine creator figures so passe. 

 

I will cheers to that. *clinks glass* (We are now in a pub rather than a coffee shop.)

 

Also, when am I going to get my damn likes back, forum. When.



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This too. I have always appreciated Dragon Age always letting me play a woman who actually seems to have had sex before.

I  liked this as well.   I think only Hawke came off sort of like "I can't tell but have you even flirted before? I mean...what the hell is wrong with you?"  But the Warden and the Inquisitor both can be played as experienced, especially in the Solasmance.  My Lavellan is near 30...so you know...she had sex life prior to Solas. She had fallen in love prior to Solas.  I wouldn't say it was the dominating force of their relationship, but it was certainly a thing that happened.  In my game at least.


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Awww....this is sort of cute. It's like that one 2 week period Liz had TEH FEELZ. 

she always has strong feels, just that the feels change to various men. Currently it's fairbanks. I'm interesting in a future codex of the romance novel josephine promoted about him after wartable mission.

 

Also curious of potential feels that may or may not be found in DLC.


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I  liked this as well.   I think only Hawke came off sort of like "I can't tell but have you even flirted before? I mean...what the hell is wrong with you?"  But the Warden and the Inquisitor both can be played as experienced, especially in the Solasmance.  My Lavellan is near 30...so you know...she had sex life prior to Solas. She had fallen in love prior to Solas.  I wouldn't say it was the dominating force of their relationship, but it was certainly a thing that happened.  In my game at least.

 

Even in Origins, it was clear my Cousland wasn't inexperienced. Alistair was the sheltered virgin, and that was a kind of refreshing thing.


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I  liked this as well.   I think only Hawke came off sort of like "I can't tell but have you even flirted before? I mean...what the hell is wrong with you?"  

 

It kind of worked for the Andersmance IMO.  The two of them can be crazy and flirt badly together.  Though as a player, there were definitely moments of me sitting there going, "Do you people know what you're ACTUALLY SAYING?!"  :blink:


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I don't know what it says about me but I never thought this was some chaste sort of romance. Especially with her making the first real move and him being so physical. Especially given the timeline of the game takes place over like, a year.  I can understand how asexuals might headcanon it that way (same as Josephine's romance), and respect that (I have asexual friends), but to me...nope.

 

The body language shift over time also says to me that there's a lot of physical intimacy (which can, yes, happen without sex - my ace friends are all about the cuddling)  between them. From the first Fade scene they're apart then everything happens. Second scene, she grabs him and then they're all over one another. Balcony at the palace, his hand is on her back....that's not someone unfamiliar with her body, IMO.

 

And final scene of course he's pretty much constantly touching her (as verified by flycam). Even the vallaslin removal is super intimate, IMO.

 

I may have watched and/or overanalyzed all of this entirely too much.

This is why I love forums like this, comparing and sharing ideas.  I'll admit, it was never something that I thought of pretty much because there never was a real "fade to black" scene going on where sex was implied.  That was why I came to the conclusion of physical intimacy and that was it (pretty silly since, you know, elves have urges too...) Flycam seems handy to have in that respect, I didn't realise just how deep their relationship progressed over the year. I think we may need those references to verify the verify  ;)

 

Overanalyzing is never a bad thing, I find it interesting to hear how other people interpret things :D

 

I was always worried over the female flirt options (I'm a typical stereotyper, like to have the man sweep the woman off her feet and all that) so I was preparing for some super cringy and clumsy flirts from Lavellan ala Hawke-style, but instead I was pleasantly surprised.  Especially when she grabbed him in the first scene, I was unprepared for that one, even more so when he went with it XD


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I will cheers to that. *clinks glass* (We are now in a pub rather than a coffee shop.)

 

Also, when am I going to get my damn likes back, forum. When.

Absolutely normal for places to be breakfast/lunch cafes in the daytime and bars at night.

 

Sometimes I goto these places with kids I babysit and completely forgotten they have different menus but I go with it and order them burgers while surrounded by white-collared drunk people.



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This too. I have always appreciated Dragon Age always letting me play a woman who actually seems to have had sex before.

 

Yep. If you want the character to be young and inexperienced, you can. If you want her to be older, or experienced, or otherwise have had a life before ending up the hero of the tale, you can do that too. She isn't there to be a silly girl who has no idea how the world works, or a damsel in need of rescuing, or the reward for the hero who saves her or the world. She can be her own damn person and there's no shame against her for being so. Sexually or otherwise. It's refreshing.


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she always has strong feels, just that the feels change to various men. Currently it's fairbanks. I'm interesting in a future codex of the romance novel josephine promoted about him after wartable mission.

 

Also curious of potential feels that may or may not be found in DLC.

What romance novel? Never had that conversation in my game



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It kind of worked for the Andersmance IMO.  The two of them can be crazy and flirt badly together.  Though as a player, there were definitely moments of me sitting there going, "Do you people know what you're ACTUALLY SAYING?!"  :blink:

It is so awkward to play through. Hawke - "It's so sexy that you're mentally ill and tortured!!!", Anders - "I will kill myself, you and everybody in this entire godforsaken city to keep us together...*runs screaming naked through the streets*".  Hawke - "OMG SWOONING. YOU'RE LIKE THE BEST NOT CLINGY BF EVAR!"

 

I think that's one of the main reasons I could never do it again...that and the mic-eating kiss. Also he sucks. 


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What romance novel? Never had that conversation in my game

So if you recruit Faribanks for the nobility, Josephine spins his in experience and pretty much turns him into Robin Hood in the courts. The Ladiez love dem some Sexy trash robin hood!


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What romance novel? Never had that conversation in my game

 

If you restore Fairbanks to nobility, you get a war table mission. If you choose to use Josephine for it, she basically makes Fairbanks into a romance novel character to appeal to Orlesian female nobility. 


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What romance novel? Never had that conversation in my game

Doesn't mention what medium but from wartable "Capitalize on Alliance with Fairbanks", if you pick Josephine option you get:

 

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I took pity on poor man and went Cullen route. I respect his privacy. Kind of.


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Theory time! It's a little messy, but I'm very open for collaborations
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I like all of this, but by far my favorite bit is 'Eldest of the Sun'. The Creators' basically being Elgar'nan and his children quarreling with their uncle Forgotten Ones is all kinds of amazing and makes perfect sense.

I'm in agreement with much of the Tyrdda stuff. I thought that Kirkwall was set up to summon the Forbidden Ones, Imshael and co., as it was constructed centuries before the Black City Assault, and from the Codexes, it sounds like Kirkwall/Emerius was built from the ground up for that purpose. *shrug* I'm a little rusty on that area, though. It's not clear to me if the Alamarri ever seized Emerius, or if they conquered the territory around it. They got much of the Free Marches and advanced into Tevinter, but I think Nevarra was as far north as they ever occupied.

I like the added addition of Andraste being driven by a Dreamer in a similar fashion to Dirthamen and Tyrdda. Especially because, whether they were aiming for Minrathous or Arlathan, the Alamarri failed. Goddammit, Tevinter.  :lol:


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Oh yah, I personally kept his heritage secret, but for the thing that Liz/Giton/a few others are cooking up, I believe they're going to restore Fairbanks to nobility. For plot purposes. 



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It is so awkward to play through. Hawke - "It's so sexy that you're mentally ill and tortured!!!", Anders - "I will kill myself, you and everybody in this entire godforsaken city to keep us together...*runs screaming naked through the streets*".  Hawke - "OMG SWOONING. YOU'RE LIKE THE BEST NOT CLINGY BF EVAR!"

 

I think that's one of the main reasons I could never do it again...that and the mic-eating kiss. Also he sucks. 

 

LOL, I love that whole hot mess.  It's so bad, but it's SO GOOD.  And at least in my experience with nutty Resolutionist Hawke, they're too deluded to even realize how nuts they are.  "Varric, when did I ever give you the impression I was turned off by crazy?"  Priceless.


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I  liked this as well.   I think only Hawke came off sort of like "I can't tell but have you even flirted before? I mean...what the hell is wrong with you?"  But the Warden and the Inquisitor both can be played as experienced, especially in the Solasmance.  My Lavellan is near 30...so you know...she had sex life prior to Solas. She had fallen in love prior to Solas.  I wouldn't say it was the dominating force of their relationship, but it was certainly a thing that happened.  In my game at least.

 

Agreed. Mine has loved before, and had this entire life before, which is one reason why she was chosen to go off to the Conclave in the first place. Love with Solas is different, and impacts her in a very deep, unique way, but I don't think of their relationship as entered in any way unequally. Yes, HE knows he has much he's hiding but at the same time he's not treating her differently or beneath any of it because of who he is. This is why some of the teacher-student depictions bother me, honestly (I mean not to dismiss anyone's headcanon but it doesn't work for me personally). Yes, he does teach her and he can be a sort of mentor but I think of them as having a relationship on the level. Even with his secrets and hesitation, he treats her as an equal, he admires her, he respects her.


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I chose to keep Fairbanks' identity private, but maybe in this current playthrough, just to see.

 

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*snip*

 

Everytime a story or a game has the Sun as an important plot role I always think about this.

 


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Soooo.. where are these flycams you speak of? I'd really like to "overanalyze" that scene too. :P

 

I'll try and find them. There's also a photo series on Tumblr that illustrates the consistent touching. Probably easier to find.



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Oh yah, I personally kept his heritage secret, but for the thing that Liz/Giton/a few others are cooking up, I believe they're going to restore Fairbanks to nobility. For plot purposes. 

Lizasaurus made a portrayal of Fairbanks:

 

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http://slayerofkilla...rque-sexy-trash

 

A nicer depiction of him than the actual model but then how is it different from Cullen's transformation from tight curled ramon haired terrified templar to stylished moosed hair of a soft mother hen.


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read the angry chapter then. https://archiveofour...g/works/3563240

 

cass isn't really in it, but i'm doing her chapter next. I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. 

Just got back and started reading. Had to ask, how does one hate Halla? LOL :P

 

Then again, I hate... no, no I don't hate any cute animals really :P


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Oh, that is not going to be one of my Lavellan's finest moments, I can already tell.

 

I did Vivienne's companion quest where Bastien dies just before the Temple of Mythal, and I was impressed by how she holds it together like a boss, despite it being clear (at least IMO) that it hit her pretty hard.  So while Dorian and Cole and the others are there for my Lavellan, it's Vivienne who teaches her how to compose herself in front of others.  It was Vivienne who taught her to play the Great Game.  Solas is going to be in for a nasty surprise when they see each other again, and my Lavellan shows him nothing at all.

 

Oh I don't know, you don't think the dread wolf will see through a few feeble Orleisian feints?

 

He's gone toe to toe with a pantheon of deities after all...


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