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[coldwetn0se]

I'm looking through this thread, but I wonder if I asked via twitter to..whoever, one of the guys, they could provide me with a clearer picture of one of them?

Maybe. Highly doubt they would be offended for being asked. Worst case scenario is, they just don't reply.

As a note, one of the regular posters here who has beautiful screenarchery shots, has a handful of spell/staff sigils, in her repertoire. I, unfortunately, did not take my brain to work today, and cannot remember her avatar name, to save my life.

(and I really feel I need more commas in my life )

[Cee]

I think one of the heavy issues with regards to Cole is that he's essentially at the level of a child. I love Cole to bits but that would be the issue. Though Cole is as close to asexual as anyone has probably ever been. He feels none of that sexual desire, as he mentions when Solas asks if he's had any interest at all in women. (Another thing pointing to Solas as not).

[Sable Rhapsody]

Also, slightly on-topic in terms of this discussion, but reading back on the PAX romance talk, what did they mean by Anders ninjamancing Hawke? It was in the same paragraph as the reason more NPCs don't initiate the romance, but I can't remember my Hawke ever being approached by Anders in terms of interest? (Unless he did and I'm really dim and didn't take it as him trying to initiate romance)

 

If you're consistently friendly to Anders during the conversation post-Karl, he shows some interest in Hawke.  Which leads to a dialogue choice from Hawke that's either heart options (encourage the romance) or broken heart (cut off the romance), with no neutral options.  It only happens that once, and only if Hawke has constantly picked the friendly/diplomatic options.

 

IMO it wasn't that big of a deal, and I do like the idea that NPCs would approach the PC since it does make sense.  But I can see why they got rid of it.

[Avejajed]

Maybe. Highly doubt they would be offended for being asked. Worst case scenario is, they just don't reply.

As a note, one of the regular posters here who has beautiful screenarchery shots, has a handful of spell/staff sigils, in her repertoire. I, unfortunately, did not take my brain to work today, and cannot remember her avatar name, to save my life.

(and I really feel I need more commas in my life )

 

So who has twitter??? 

 

Of, course, I, would, have, deleted, mine, just, when, I, need, it.

 

This thread you linked is really beautiful. lol.

[Moirin]

Also, slightly on-topic in terms of this discussion, but reading back on the PAX romance talk, what did they mean by Anders ninjamancing Hawke? It was in the same paragraph as the reason more NPCs don't initiate the romance, but I can't remember my Hawke ever being approached by Anders in terms of interest? (Unless he did and I'm really dim and didn't take it as him trying to initiate romance)

 

If you hit all the diplomatic answers to Anders in the first conversation with him after you recruit him then he'll sort of hit on you. Sadly, after this there is no way to turn him down without sounding like a jerk, which is what I think was the thing that bugged people most about it.

 

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[Rabbitonfire]

I follow a few ace blogs and never had issues with what they post. Like Hidden, I welcome several points of view. Also during valentines, the best solas cards were from an ace I follow .

 

I don't get why more aces fix on Cole. Cole is truly assexual, in canon.

 

 

Solas talks about sex and enjoyable side benefits. Calling him a sexy egg is in character. Is truly odd that you would rant on someone for that, when the character himself gets told he is being grim and fatalistic in the hopes of getting Lavellan to bed, and Solas answers it is a BENEFIT, not an insult. Those crazy people are making themselves a new Solas that was not on the game.

 

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edit4: nah, i rather drop it. PM me if you like to discuss.

[Dark_Rogue]

I never really considered Solas as an asexual...it's pretty clear from his banter that he's no stranger to sex, surely? I mean, just look at the Blackwall banter he has with the "spirit" talk

 

During my first playthrough and his "considerations" to get involved with Lavellan I assumed he had a wife who died or something...

 

I agree with HiddenStrike and Renmiri for that, if there ever was an asexual companion, Cole would fit the bill more than anyone else (it also slightly worries me that people wanted to romance Cole...wat).

 

 

I follow a few ace blogs and never had issues with what they post. Like Hidden, I welcome several points of view. Also during valentines, the best solas cards were from an ace I follow  .

 

I don't get why more aces fix on Cole. Cole is truly assexual, in canon.

 

 

Solas talks about sex and enjoyable side benefits. Calling him a sexy egg is in character. Is truly odd that you would rant on someone for that, when the character himself gets told he is being grim and fatalistic in the hopes of getting Lavellan to bed, and Solas answers it is a BENEFIT, not an insult. Those crazy people are making themselves a new Solas that was not on the game.

 

I saw this dialogue on YT but I never managed to get it in my game, so I think that was also a reason why I personally didn't see the whole sex between them both happening.

 

Damn you! Now I need to replay my game!

Modifié par Dark_Rogue, 18 mars 2015 - 05:59 .

[coldwetn0se]

Also, slightly on-topic in terms of this discussion, but reading back on the PAX romance talk, what did they mean by Anders ninjamancing Hawke? It was in the same paragraph as the reason more NPCs don't initiate the romance, but I can't remember my Hawke ever being approached by Anders in terms of interest? (Unless he did and I'm really dim and didn't take it as him trying to initiate romance)

If you took a particular dialogue path with Anders, after returning from your encounter with Karl, he can hit on your character. At that point you can respond in kind (even if you don't end up romancing him.....no lock in, since it is Act 1), or you can turn him aside, in two different manners. If shun his advances, you get rivaly points. This had a negative reaction from some of the fandom.

Personally, it never bothered me. AND, I rarely got the dialogue tree for it, since my previous choices in the conversation, won't trigger that tree to begin with.

[Armdin]

Thanks for the replies. I went sarcastic/charming all the way through, so that's why I didn't see it. x) Thanks gang!

 

I guess I know I'll be going the diplomatic route with Hawke for my Andersmance.

[coldwetn0se]

So who has twitter??? 
 
Of, course, I, would, have, deleted, mine, just, when, I, need, it.
 
This thread you linked is really beautiful. lol.

a thing of beauty.

[Illyria]

This is what I was going to say. I would still not bother Mr. Weekes with trying to get a confirmation though, people can headcanon what they like and I don't see any reason to drag this on further and get Mr. Weekes involved.

 

Agreed.

 

Sorry everyone if I sounded rude earlier.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Thanks for the replies. I went sarcastic/charming all the way through, so that's why I didn't see it. x) Thanks gang!

 

I guess I know I'll be going the diplomatic route with Hawke for my Andersmance.

 

I miss Anders, and all of his glorious crazy.  IMO it made sense for him to come on a little strong, and be touchy about rejection; he's got a head full of issues, and some serious insecurity problems.  But I can kind of see where people are coming from on the ninjamance thing; I ran into some DA:O weirdness where Leliana thought I was romancing her despite me never picking anything I thought was flirty.  And I think Liara flirts if you're remotely friendly toward her.

 

ME1, DA:O, and DA2 to some extent didn't always make it clear when/if the PC was going to trigger romantic content, and not everyone wants to play romances at all, let alone with that specific character.  If the content is optional, it should be clear when you're about to initiate that option, like picking up a sidequest.

 

So it got a little more game-y in DA:I, but also much more clear with the big honking dialogue options that say "START A ROMANCE YOU DWEEB"

[BoscoBread]

I don't think we need to tweet anyone about this.They already said it was left ambiguous. Leave it there.
 
If you are a reasonable person, you don't care about other's headcannons. Because, whatever. Who cares if I want to headcannon Solas as a half-raptor, pansexual, god from transsexual Transylvania? No one should.
 
It becomes a problem when people freak out about their character to the point of ridiculous hyperbole.

This. When tumblr fandoms start imploding over bullshit head canons it's best to back away and not draw the attention of the writers.

[coldwetn0se]

AH-HA!

The screenarcher I was not remembering is @drake2511! I think she may be in a 9-10 hour time zone difference though. (well, in relation to my PNW location. PST to for me.)



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("grumble"....can't gif properly. )

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 18 mars 2015 - 06:21 .

[RynJ]

This is what I was going to say. I would still not bother Mr. Weekes with trying to get a confirmation though, people can headcanon what they like and I don't see any reason to drag this on further and get Mr. Weekes involved.

 

I'd bet you a lot of money that he's already gotten multiple messages asking about this from those fans really involved in their headcanons about Solas' sexuality. He probably just wouldn't answer because it'd cause more harm than good.

[Armdin]

I miss Anders, and all of his glorious crazy.  IMO it made sense for him to come on a little strong, and be touchy about rejection; he's got a head full of issues, and some serious insecurity problems.  But I can kind of see where people are coming from on the ninjamance thing; I ran into some DA:O weirdness where Leliana thought I was romancing her despite me never picking anything I thought was flirty.  And I think Liara flirts if you're remotely friendly toward her.

 

ME1, DA:O, and DA2 to some extent didn't always make it clear when/if the PC was going to trigger romantic content, and not everyone wants to play romances at all, let alone with that specific character.  If the content is optional, it should be clear when you're about to initiate that option, like picking up a sidequest.

 

So it got a little more game-y in DA:I, but also much more clear with the big honking dialogue options that say "START A ROMANCE YOU DWEEB"

 

I'm out of likes, but the last line made me laugh. xD

 

I like how they handled it with Zevran, he mentions finding the Warden attractive (something along the lines of "Would it be okay to say I fancy you as well?"), and you had the option to play it off, go with it, or stomp your foot on it. That kind of forwardness is nice, and he handles it well if you reject him. But then again, that is Zevran's personality. xD

 

I'm looking forward to seeing Ander's. But, yes, I can understand why people didn't like it.

[Avejajed]

a thing of beauty.

 

I'm basically obsessed now with the idea of a spell sigil, if I can get a clear picture of one and have it drawn up, I'm pretty sure that's what I'm going to do. Best idea.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I'd bet you a lot of money that he's already gotten multiple messages asking about this from those fans really involved in their headcanons about Solas' sexuality. He probably just wouldn't answer because it'd cause more harm than good.

 

Same reason David Gaider refused to get involved in the fandom fights over skin color.  What's Izzy's saying?  "It's like a bar brawl.  People are pulled continuously into the fray, and nobody remembers why it started."

 

The wisdom of Isabela, Pirate Queen of Great Sexy Glory.  *nods sagely*

[Cee]

I miss Anders, and all of his glorious crazy.  IMO it made sense for him to come on a little strong, and be touchy about rejection; he's got a head full of issues, and some serious insecurity problems.  But I can kind of see where people are coming from on the ninjamance thing; I ran into some DA:O weirdness where Leliana thought I was romancing her despite me never picking anything I thought was flirty.  And I think Liara flirts if you're remotely friendly toward her.

 

 

 

I didn't experience that with Liara, but I did with Kaidan. I said something nice to him, then suddenly I think it was getting flirty.

 

I decided my Shepard would pursue Liara, and Kaidan kind of suddenly got all love triangle-y and inquisitive. I had to tell him yes, I am interested in Liara and barley talked to him the rest of the game.

 

Edit: Barely...though barley talking to him just conjured up a weird mental image.

[AryBoBary]

Ya know, all of this talk about personal head canons, which direction a character's sexual orientation swings (if it swings at all, or a lot), the way in which a romance develops, the content of said romance, or even the content of the character's story... it all just boils down to how we, as readers, as gamers, as artists, as PEOPLE bring that information into ourselves, and interpret it.

 

It's all very personal, and to take your very PERSONAL opinion, may it be that opinion is an "educated" one, it should never give you rights to shove that thinking into someone else's head space, and tell them their take on things is wrong, and don't even get me started on taking that opposition to degrading or demoralizing depths.  We all gather, ruminate, and come to varying conclusions, based on like a million different factors that are often times completely based off personal experiences.

 

If you want to imagine Solas being ace, then go for it.  Is he that way in game?  Clearly he favors the female elves, just in the same way that Blackwall has a big bushy beard that may or may not house a colony of smurfs, we can see it plainly, because that's the hard information being given to us.  But to tell someone their fantasies, their crazy-train dumpster theories, or what gets them hot for a character is invalid or wrong (and then resort to insults) is simply not okay.  You've made their headcanons YOUR personal issue, and that speaks more about the bully and their laundry list of unresolved personal matters, than the person with the desire to see Cullen be bi, or have an illicit long-term love affair with Sampson...

 

It reminds of when the writers were getting hounded for the IB/Dorian romance being an abusive relationship, and how they weren't sensitive to their fans who had been victims of abuse (or currently are), and that the whole relationship triggered them emotionally... The writers write about real human things, the dirty underbelly of society that affects us the most emotionally, because they want you to CARE about the characters they create, and about the world they are in.  The same is true for any other artist out there writing fan fiction or making art, they have this burning inspiration inside of them to make something, to take a story like Dragon Age, and it's various characters and expand on the enjoyment of their gaming experience, and then share it freely with others.  Interpretation is just one part of the creative process, and that means taking what is considered vanilla, and altering to challenge the way we see people and the complicated thing we call "relationships".  It makes us think "what if?" and in a small way, it translates into our real lives.  

 

I don't believe in looking at things so black and white.  So long as things don't cross into the land of morally-devastating and harmful/EVIL-evil, then I enjoy seeing perspectives that differ from my own.  It makes me go "WHY do I not think Solas could be asexual?  Is it just because I don't like it?  Or is it because I don't think the writers indended him that way?  In that case, what harm is it for an AU fic?"  Really, in my opinion, none, unless I make it a me-issue.

 

And HOLY CRAP, I did it again.

 

/end scene.

 

Um...

 

Hey guys. *blinks*

 

Have some Solas...

 

(spoilered for ya know, because ... spoilers?)

 

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Source: Me!

[Armdin]

People complaining there's no asexual characters in game, should maybe be introduced to Cole?

I mean, sure, he's also aromantic, but doesn't mean asexuals doesn't get representation. Now, for sure, a romantic asexual might be more interesting for aces.

 

Anyway, headcanon it like you please.

I'm personally headcanoning Solas as Demisexual because he needs to be amazeballs by my stunning personality before having the hots for me. And also because I am demisexual. Ain't anything wrong about that. And other people can headcanon it in any way they see fit. Everything's valid either way.

 

Forgive my ignorance, but what's demisexual?

 

I swear I can't keep up. ;_;

[Moirin]

Agreed.

 

Sorry everyone if I sounded rude earlier.

 

I don't think you sounded rude at all.

 

In reality you make a good point, but in reality I think a lot of the writers hesitate to confirm or deny things like this because it doesn't help much. There will always be people who are going to argue their headcanon is true no matter what the writers say about it, and when the writers get involved all it does is point this headcanon vitriol at the writers instead. I can understand why they would prefer to avoid the topic.

 

Forgive my ignorance, but what's demisexual?

 

Yes please someone explain this because I've never heard of it either. Sorry.

[Dark_Rogue]

@AryBoBary

 

Damn, I ran out of likes! So have some hearts, because if I could like your post more than once, I would       

 

Also, dat Solas art. You are seriously talented!

 

I find it funny how people can actually argue with the writers over the canons.  These people created the entire thing and now you are dictating to them? I seriously don't get it.

[Armdin]

-snippity-do-da-snippity-eh-

 

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Source: Me!

 

Long ass post, but well said! Take a heart.

Question; Why do people think of IB/Dorian's relationship as abusive? It didn't come across that way for me. O.o I've only read the banters on the wiki, unless it's missing something as it sometimes does, this is news to me.

 

B-E-A-U-tiful artwork. Thanks for sharing! Out of likes so take another heart.

[Kestrel]

All this talk of head canons makes me want to write a story from the perspective of an Inquisitor who has the same health problems I have, as she tries to hide them and heal them with magic and herbs, knowing that there's only so much she can do to stretch her life. Maybe the Mark puts her in a kind of stasis? Maybe Solas discovers her health problems, and it's all the worse when he leaves? 

 

... Unfortunately, given Dragon Age's highly sophisticated medical system of 'put a poultice on it', she'd probably be dead by the time she's old enough to actually be a protagonist.