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So this man you all prefer calling GDL, I thought it was really cool for him to make a message. But then I saw it says purchased? One of you paid him to do it?


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I will come back and like more things when I get my likes back, but for now I just want to say thank you to everyone for being so welcoming and kind and open and honest and BEAUTIFUL AWESOME UNICORNS. ;_; What a lovely afternoon it's been for me to read all these stories and thank you for making me feel safe enough to post my own. 

 

*JOINS IN THE GROUP HUG* 

 

How about that Solas, huh? What a magical guy to have inspired all this. ;) Can't wait to meet him in the game.


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And that might be the most I've ever said on a personal subject I generally don't talk about ever.  Solas thread, you have some crazy magic.

 

Crazy dreamy love magic.

 

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Well for years she was, but then they decided to say she was bi. And for the exact reasons that they possibly changed their stance on her, with ambiguity = "bisexual erasure" being one of the key arguments against DA2's system thus them going the set sexuality system again, I doubt they will try it. 

 

As I said in the romance thread, I can see them doing a character who's still figuring out their identity, and whose sexuality is ambiguous in that they haven't really figured it out for themselves yet. Really, that's how I always read Merrill. Her sexuality didn't change, but because of her lack of experience she didn't really classify herself in the way that, say, Isabela did. I don't think that such a character or storyline would qualify as bisexual erasure, so long as it was well-done and was included alongside other stories that represented different experiences. So don't give up hope.  :)  Bioware has thus far been very receptive.


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That's one of the most intriguing things about Solas for me. I've always loved the idea of the Fade, and to find out that it functions sort of like a collective unconscious/grease trap for memories just makes me even more interested. I really relate to someone who wants to uncover the past through people's experiences, and I think that's one of the reasons that he'll be very accepting. You can't immerse yourself in the hopes and dreams of others without gaining some sort of appreciation for their perspectives and struggles. That's also why I really value hearing about other people's experiences, because they help enrich my own. Thus, I think the Solas thread is the perfect environment for sharing different perspectives. He seems like the kind of character who'd love to participate in this kind of thing.  :D

I agree... Solas piqued my interest the moment i found that old pre-interview wiki that included the words 'apostate' and 'Fade expert.'  The Fade is easily the aspect of DA lore I've found most fascinating - just the idea of this massive parallel reality where dreamers go, and where memories are stored through the 'eyes' of the demons and spirits that inhabit it... and then there's this city in the center of it all that may or may not have once housed something now considered God.  And yet we know so little about it, and what we do is largely from this biased Chantry-approved perspective.  The fact that we finally get the perspective of someone who doesn't inherently fear it, minus the dangerous naivety of a character like Merrill (at least, that's how I perceived her) is really exciting.


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Just came back after having a really crap evening for various reasons and this thread, you guys...it's just full of the feel goods. I'm kind of in awe of everyone. In lieu of words, just gonna re-post the gif that always makes me think of this place.

 

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Absolutely! Well... except maybe the feeling immature and silly part...  :P  Seems like the older and (hopefully) wiser I get, the more acutely aware I am of my silliness AND my immaturity.  But I'm also more okay with it.  If I could tell my younger self just one thing it's this (and I suppose this applies to all you young whippersnappers as well, haha!):  Stop being so damn serious!  It doesn't matter what others might think of you - Stop trying to convince yourself and everyone else of how 'mature' you are and just be that silly, goofy, young self that's buried under all the trying-to-be-cool. Though i suppose that's more than one thing isn't it...?

 

Anyway, this old lady is going to get off her soapbox now.... As you were, Solas thread.  As you were  <3

 

^This. And I will join you in some sort of Ensure cocktail, as at 37, I am apparently also one of the geezers of the thread. 

 

Every time I'm in here and something sweet or funny or amazing happens (which is frequent), I wish I'd had someplace like this to go when I was in my late teens/early 20s. I wasn't grappling with my sexuality (as it turns out, I am just really, really hardwired to like dudes. A lot.), but I had some pretty terrible self-esteem issues from having been bullied in school. I didn't fit in, and I spent all my time trying to. It took me a long time to figure out who I was, and to be okay with just being me and liking the stuff I like. And there's so much peace in having finally gotten to that place. Maybe I would have come around to it sooner if I'd had a spot like this to be with kindred spirits...but as it is, I'm grateful to have it now, and glad it's here for anyone who needs a safe space to just chill and geek out and...well, and look at Solas's butt, because that really never gets old.

 

I said more stuff than I set out to. Which is typical. Slightly awkward ('cause I am, really) but heartfelt huggles for you all.   <3   


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I said more stuff than I set out to. Which is typical. Slightly awkward ('cause I am, really) but heartfelt huggles for you all.   <3

 
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So this man you all prefer calling GDL, I thought it was really cool for him to make a message. But then I saw it says purchased? One of you paid him to do it?

From what I understand (and Mademon or someone else is free to correct me if not) - Gareth David Lloyd offered to let fans purchase a video message from him to a recipient of your choice - a 'happy birthday,' or 'congratulations,' or what have you.  Mademon bought one as a gift to the Solas thread on BSN - hence the 'thanks Mademon' in the forum title  :)


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I decided to de-lurk and share my story and opinions. But, as warning it, one, might be rather long, and two, not an easy story to hear. It certainly is not a story easy to share.                                                                                                                                                            To start off, I would like to thank Bioware for their inclusion of LGBT content in their games. I am someone that accepts people no matter their sexual orientation because I don't see that when I look at someone. When I look at someone, I see just another person that's different in every way from me. And, as a person they deserve to be treated with the same respect that I would treat everyone else. I have friends that don't identify as straight. One of them, who spent the past four years telling us he was gay, recently came out and told us that he wanted be called Alice and have female pronouns used. I was totally cool with that. It didn't change they way I look at him, now her. He(She) is still a fabulous person. My best friend identifies as pan and even I am not straight, I identify as biromatic.                                                                                                                                                                                               But this isn't the story. My story isn't about a fight with my sexuality or an acceptance of the different sexualities. My story is about a war with my own mind and a struggle to survive. It starts off with this. I am an introvert, a massive introvert. I would sit in a roomful of fellow high schoolers and not say a single word, not ask a single question, not say anything. To a lot of people, that's probably a bit freakish. Now add the fact that I'm not anything close to being a physically attractive female, I am a band geek, and probably extremely intelligent. Now, throw in a bunch of attractive, preppy girls that love gossiping and this story is not going anywhere pleasant. From eight grade until early eleventh, I suffered from a severe case of low self-esteem and depression. It was horrible to go through. There were people that looked at me like I was a freak, they would talk about me when I was around, loud enough I could hear them doing it. And I would take, put on a brave face, and pretend it didn't mean anything. Then, when I was home I would cry about it for a few hours, go to bed, and wake up the next morning and do it all over again. It was hard, having to go to school and see so many people so confident with who they were, so proud of themselves. While I was in a corner, hating myself because I wasn't them. It was painful. But things changed, as things always do. Eleventh grade, on a band trip, in a hotel room, I yelled at some girls because they wanted me to take a shower because I didn't smell nice enough for them. I told them that I couldn't change the way I smelled and that is was a part of who I am. It was the first time I defended myself and it felt good. After that I began seeing someone incredible every time I looked in a mirror. I saw someone worth being alive, someone beautiful in every way, even if no one thought so. Eventually, I stopped caring  about what other people thought about me. I became proud to be me. I began smiling for absolutely no reason and laughing at nothing. Now, as I sit writing this, I love being me and I want nothing more than to be me. And throughout all of this, through the dark nights that felt like they would never end and, the bright days I look forward to and those I remember fondly, I had art to keep me going. There was music and band class and movies and video games, namely Bioware games, that I could get lost in and forget about my problems. When I would turn my Xbox on and start playing a game I would become that character. The choices I made I did so because they felt like something I would do, choices I would make. And let me tell you, all the numerous playthroughs of ME I have; all maxed out Paragon. I cannot stomach making a single Renegade choice. I can't even give one point to intimidation because it feels so out of character for me. That is another thing I would like to thank Bioware for, the ability to have choices, because even if I don't pick it, someone else will. Thank you.                                                                                                         This is really long, and I do apologize for that. I just saw everyone sharing stories and I felt like sharing mine. As well as give many thanks to everyone at Bioware for making the games that they do. I have been a big fan for many many years and I'm really, really excited for DA:I. And I will end this enormous post with: OMG SOLAS!!!!!!!!!!! *flails arms like maniac while running in a giant circle*


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I see. Geez, I hope it was cheap, it's not even 720p!

 
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wtf is that a doglar bear?


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As I said in the romance thread, I can see them doing a character who's still figuring out their identity, and whose sexuality is ambiguous in that they haven't really figured it out for themselves yet. Really, that's how I always read Merrill. Her sexuality didn't change, but because of her lack of experience she didn't really classify herself in the way that, say, Isabela did. I don't think that such a character or storyline would qualify as bisexual erasure, so long as it was well-done and was included alongside other stories that represented different experiences. So don't give up hope.  :)  Bioware has thus far been very receptive.

Hopefully you're right and they'll try in the future. I remember somebody wrote a possible dialogue with it, but I don't remember where it is to quote it. 

 

 

 
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One of the best hug gifs ever.  :wub:

 

 

I see. Geez, I hope it was cheap, it's not even 720p!

wtf is that a doglar bear?

It's a fictional creature known as a polar bear dog. 



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I decided to de-lurk and share my story and opinions. But, as warning it, one, might be rather long, and two, not an easy story to hear. It certainly is not a story easy to share.                                                                                                                                                            To start off, I would like to thank Bioware for their inclusion of LGBT content in their games. I am someone that accepts people no matter their sexual orientation because I don't see that when I look at someone. When I look at someone, I see just another person that's different in every way from me. And, as a person they deserve to be treated with the same respect that I would treat everyone else. I have friends that don't identify as straight. One of them, who spent the past four years telling us he was gay, recently came out and told us that he wanted be called Alice and have female pronouns used. I was totally cool with that. It didn't change they way I look at him, now her. He(She) is still a fabulous person. My best friend identifies as pan and even I am not straight, I identify as biromatic.                                                                                                                                                                                               But this isn't the story. My story isn't about a fight with my sexuality or an acceptance of the different sexualities. My story is about a war with my own mind and a struggle to survive. It starts off with this. I am an introvert, a massive introvert. I would sit in a roomful of fellow high schoolers and not say a single word, not ask a single question, not say anything. To a lot of people, that's probably a bit freakish. Now add the fact that I'm not anything close to being a physically attractive female, I am a band geek, and probably extremely intelligent. Now, throw in a bunch of attractive, preppy girls that love gossiping and this story is not going anywhere pleasant. From eight grade until early eleventh, I suffered from a severe case of low self-esteem and depression. It was horrible to go through. There were people that looked at me like I was a freak, they would talk about me when I was around, loud enough I could hear them doing it. And I would take, put on a brave face, and pretend it didn't mean anything. Then, when I was home I would cry about it for a few hours, go to bed, and wake up the next morning and do it all over again. It was hard, having to go to school and see so many people so confident with who they were, so proud of themselves. While I was in a corner, hating myself because I wasn't them. It was painful. But things changed, as things always do. Eleventh grade, on a band trip, in a hotel room, I yelled at some girls because they wanted me to take a shower because I didn't smell nice enough for them. I told them that I couldn't change the way I smelled and that is was a part of who I am. It was the first time I defended myself and it felt good. After that I began seeing someone incredible every time I looked in a mirror. I saw someone worth being alive, someone beautiful in every way, even if no one thought so. Eventually, I stopped caring  about what other people thought about me. I became proud to be me. I began smiling for absolutely no reason and laughing at nothing. Now, as I sit writing this, I love being me and I want nothing more than to be me. And throughout all of this, through the dark nights that felt like they would never end and, the bright days I look forward to and those I remember fondly, I had art to keep me going. There was music and band class and movies and video games, namely Bioware games, that I could get lost in and forget about my problems. When I would turn my Xbox on and start playing a game I would become that character. The choices I made I did so because they felt like something I would do, choices I would make. And let me tell you, all the numerous playthroughs of ME I have; all maxed out Paragon. I cannot stomach making a single Renegade choice. I can't even give one point to intimidation because it feels so out of character for me. That is another thing I would like to thank Bioware for, the ability to have choices, because even if I don't pick it, someone else will. Thank you.                                                                                                         This is really long, and I do apologize for that. I just saw everyone sharing stories and I felt like sharing mine. As well as give many thanks to everyone at Bioware for making the games that they do. I have been a big fan for many many years and I'm really, really excited for DA:I. And I will end this enormous post with: OMG SOLAS!!!!!!!!!!! *flails arms like maniac while running in a giant circle*

Thank you for sharing.  I hope one day I can find the strength to do what you did as well. 


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wtf is that a doglar bear?

 

Naga is a polar bear dog.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Everyone sharing their stories is so inspiring... I'm typically a very private person (even though I have strong feelings and opinions regarding representation, I don't talk a lot about myself personally). But you all make this little corner of the internet feel very welcoming and safe. So... *takes a deep breath*

 

*SNIP*

 

I feel a kinship of sorts to Solas, I guess, with regards to being private and a bit introverted. I really hope he's bisexual, too. I think I'll enjoy having him in my party, LI or not. 

 

 

I'm trans too (FTM) and I totally relate. ALL THE HUGS!



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<3 It's so good to hear things like this. I'm so sorry you had to go through that, but I'm glad you came out of it for the better.

 

Also: SOLAS YAY!!  :lol:

 

 

Hopefully you're right and they'll try in the future. I remember somebody wrote a possible dialogue with it, but I don't remember where it is to quote it. 

 

[RAISES HAND] I think that was me! Here's a link if you were looking for it.


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I decided to de-lurk and share my story and opinions. But, as warning it, one, might be rather long, and two, not an easy story to hear. It certainly is not a story easy to share.  

 

*snip*

Thank you so much for sharing, and welcome to the Solas thread!  You sound like an amazing, and beautiful person.  Your post actually made me tear up, because it sounds so much like something I might have written when I was just entering high school (I was fortunate enough to find some really great friends around my freshman year - though even then I wouldn't look back on high school and call it easy).  I'm glad you were able to find joy in being who you are - things do get easier - then harder, then easier again... I think the important thing is to keep learning and growing and to keep an open mind.  Because it's more complicated than that  ;)  


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[RAISES HAND] I think that was me! Here's a link if you were looking for it.

 

Oh, I think I added to that dialogue too! Honestly, I could totally see that dialogue happening (or something similar) with Solas. :) I think it'd be lovely to explore human (er.. elf) connection with him as something novel for one or both of you.

 

I'm trans too (FTM) and I totally relate. ALL THE HUGS!

 
Dammit, still out of likes, but *hugs!* back! <3

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I decided to de-lurk and share my story and opinions.

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I had tapped out for the night, but I came back, *hugs you tight* I'm guessing it was so I could give you your garland and stump right away! *smiles and places a flower garland on your crown and gestures about* Pick a spot, we have plenty of room! *huggles* Welcome!

 

I see. Geez, I hope it was cheap, it's not even 720p!

wtf is that a doglar bear?

It was pretty priceless! ;)

You'd have to watch Korra to get it.



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[RAISES HAND] I think that was me! Here's a link if you were looking for it.

That was it. Thanks. 

 

Oh, I think I added to that dialogue too! Honestly, I could totally see that dialogue happening (or something similar) with Solas. :) I think it'd be lovely to explore human (er.. elf) connection with him as something novel for one or both of you.

Yes you did. It was a few posts later. 



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I agree... Solas piqued my interest the moment i found that old pre-interview wiki that included the words 'apostate' and 'Fade expert.'  The Fade is easily the aspect of DA lore I've found most fascinating - just the idea of this massive parallel reality where dreamers go, and where memories are stored through the 'eyes' of the demons and spirits that inhabit it... and then there's this city in the center of it all that may or may not have once housed something now considered God.  And yet we know so little about it, and what we do is largely from this biased Chantry-approved perspective.  The fact that we finally get the perspective of someone who doesn't inherently fear it, minus the dangerous naivety of a character like Merrill (at least, that's how I perceived her) is really exciting.

 

Exactly! We've gotten little hints about the Fade in previous games, but I've been itching to learn more, ever since I did the mage origin in DA:O in fact. It just seems so integral to the nuts and bolts of Thedas as a setting and to the makeup of religion and magic.

 

One of my favourite things about Patrick Weekes' interview is this:

 

 

[DA]: Solas doesn’t fear the Fade?

 

[PW]: I’d say he respects it. It’s still dangerous, but because Solas found the Fade on his own, he went in without preconceptions, letting him explore the area and befriend spirits without the black-and-white mentality that holds back mages trained in the Circle. While everyone else guards themselves, assuming everything in the Fade is a threat, Solas will find a brilliant unimaginable light, smile delightedly, and move in for a closer look.

 

That was what really made me fall in love with Solas. He sounds like the kind of person who knows that the Fade is dangerous, and takes precautions against those dangers, but who is also willing to go where others haven't gone in order to come to his own conclusions. He strikes me as a sort of historian or archaeologist. Albeit a historian who is able to get more hands-on with the past than others are able to.  :P  I'm jealous. And I'm with him on being annoyed at how black and white Chantry thinking on the Fade is. My DA:O mage girl was so disappointed when all of her questions about the Fade got answered with variations on, 'it's dangerous and full of demons'. Well yeah, but what else.

 

I'm also intrigued by what hints at his personality we've gotten. So far we've heard that he's a very private person, introverted, and unassuming. And judging from his wardrobe and the fact that he lives alone in the wilderness I can totally see that. He doesn't seem like the type to toot his own horn. However he's also apparently 'badass', 'nails', and 'scotch bonnet candies'. Just...whoa. That speaks to a sort of inner strength that I find very appealing. Solas doesn't care what you think of him, he just wants to be free to do his own thing and pursue his interests. And yet he decides to seek out the Inquisition simply because he knows that they're going to need his help. As an Apostate he's got a lot to lose by putting himself forward like that, but he does it anyways. No wonder GDL described him as 'badass'. That takes guts.

 

Also I am officially out of likes. You guys are just too likeable!


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I want to know more about this "badass," "nails" side of his personality. At first he sounded like a quiet, thoughtful introvert, which he may well be, but...there's obviously more. I mean, Scotch bonnet pepper, right? And didn't one of the devs say that he's the character everyone will be talking about after playing the game? Or did I dream that after looking at the Solass gif for too long?

 

I don't know. He's such a mystery! And the way GDL said "He's an elf BUT it's more complicated than that"...well, what else is he? I haven't entirely let go of the ancient elf theory. There's some funny business afoot in his background. Warden senses tingling and all that.

 

I've said it before, but if he goes and pulls an Anders after all the love and favorable comparisons to David Bowie I've mentally showered him with, I'm going to be very put out. I both love the mystery and am made extremely nervous by it. Solas: International Man of Mystery. But with better teeth. And less hair.

 

*ponders feasibility of installing a rotating bed and mood lighting in Skyhold*


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I find myself wondering about the race-gates again. It's funny that some are so convinced that Solas would be race-gated when, out of all of them, he has the most personality evidence to NOT be race-gated from what we know so far  :lol: And David Gaider's comment may have thrown a monkey wrench in what everybody once assumed, so one of the straight or gay LIs may very well be one of the race-gates. If it doesn't turn out that BOTH come from the ones we already know.


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I don't know. He's such a mystery! And the way GDL said "He's an elf BUT it's more complicated than that"...well, what else is he? 

 

I have been thinking about this quote, and it coincides with my mental ramblings about Solas being... "Something Else" basically living in the body of an elf.


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I have been thinking about this quote, and it coincides with my mental ramblings about Solas being... "Something Else" basically living in the body of an elf.

 

Well he's supposed to be badass......

 

Chuck Norris?  ;)


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Well he's so supposed to be badass......

 

Chuck Norris?  ;)

 

:pinched: I prefer Bruce Lee!


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Part of me still hope Solas gets revealed to be an Ancient Elf in the game lol  :bandit:


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