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[Heidirs]

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Maker, I hope the professor drops a truth bomb.  Dear, wonderful, holy Drakon, founder of the southern Chantry and the Empire, was best friends with an elven Inquisitor and ally to the Dales.  Let the Orlesians suck on that for a while.

 

kind of makes me want to go for the Celene/Briala ruling option...

 

Darn it, I am failing at my lurker status...

[Sable Rhapsody]

kind of makes me want to go for the Celene/Briala ruling option...

 

I vacillate between Celene/Briala, because I want to help the elves without having to assassinate Celene, and forcing all three to a truce.  Because if hell is other people, those particular people are probably the very bottom of the pit, and they thoroughly deserve one another 

 

 

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Yes, let the Orlesians and the Chantry and everyone else suck on that. And while we're at it, let the Circle, the Templars and the Chantry suck on the Avvar's symbiotic spirit relationships.

Inquisition has been one great big FU to the powers that be. See?? See how things could be? If you all weren't such massive douchebags!

 

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It's been a FU to just about everyone, not just the powers that be.  The Wardens, the Dalish, every element of the mages and templars and Chantry.  Basically, everyone's wrong about at least something important, and no one know s*** about what's actually going on.

 

And omg, the Avvar and their spirit-gods.  I loved that so much.  I think it's rather telling that the Avvar don't have templars.  Every system that fears spirits and treats them as dangerous runs into way more problems than it solves.  But the Avvar's practical understanding of how spirits reflect the living removes that whole toxic element of fear.  Things can still go wrong, but it seems to be the exception rather than the rule.

 

For my Lavellan, who no longer believes in any gods, the Avvar religion was very comforting.  She likes spirits, and she believes in them.  She felt bad for Hakkon, bound to a body and denied his rebirth.  I like to think that they meet up in the Fade for a nice chat once he's been properly reborn.

[Giton]

Musical hellspiraling again, 90s edition

 

 

Climb out of the spiral/Solas messed up, rebuttal.

 

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[BoscoBread]

Eeh, Jack White. 

 

@Kissiebear, where do you stream? I'd like to have a look too.

Apparently Twitch.  I was just going to do it on the chat but since we don't have room for everybody I'll make an account. JUST FOR YOUR BIRTHDAY!   I'll post the link later when I get home. 

[Cee]

Climb out of the spiral/Solas messed up, rebuttal.

 

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This genuinely made me laugh because that's coming up next in my playlist.

[Taelaa]

I vacillate between Celene/Briala, because I want to help the elves without having to assassinate Celene, and forcing all three to a truce.  Because if hell is other people, those particular people are probably the very bottom of the pit, and they thoroughly deserve one another 

 

 

 

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It's been a FU to just about everyone, not just the powers that be.  The Wardens, the Dalish, every element of the mages and templars and Chantry.  Basically, everyone's wrong about at least something important, and no one know s*** about what's actually going on.

 

And omg, the Avvar and their spirit-gods.  I loved that so much.  I think it's rather telling that the Avvar don't have templars.  Every system that fears spirits and treats them as dangerous runs into way more problems than it solves.  But the Avvar's practical understanding of how spirits reflect the living removes that whole toxic element of fear.  Things can still go wrong, but it seems to be the exception rather than the rule.

 

For my Lavellan, who no longer believes in any gods, the Avvar religion was very comforting.  She likes spirits, and she believes in them.  She felt bad for Hakkon, bound to a body and denied his rebirth.  I like to think that they meet up in the Fade for a nice chat once he's been properly reborn.

 

Out of likes, here's a  ! And Happy birthday to you and Siha! 

 

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Yes, all of this! I've never wanted the next game so bad, so quickly before. I need to know what impact all of these revelations and my actions have on the world. I'm pro spirit/mage/elf, anti-templar/chantry/circle. I'm pretty sure my Lavellan would be up for tearing down the veil and releasing the pantheon, but she's a radical freedom fighter who has lost all perspective. Oh everyone is wrong about everything? And I'm one of the most powerful people in charge of one of the most powerful organisations currently in existence? Let's shake things up!

[Siha]

Apparently Twitch.  I was just going to do it on the chat but since we don't have room for everybody I'll make an account. JUST FOR YOUR BIRTHDAY!   I'll post the link later when I get home. 

 

Of course only for me, how would I even consider anything else?

I appreciate. I started playing SWTOR because I watched your streaming.

[BoscoBread]

Of course only for me, how would I even consider anything else?

I appreciate. I started playing SWTOR because I watched your streaming.

Haha! I feel honored.   Are you playing Sith anything as a bloodthirsty loony???  Or the IA - Vector-mance FOREVER?

[Siha]

Haha! I feel honored.   Are you playing Sith anything as a bloodthirsty loony???  Or the IA - Vector-mance FOREVER?

 

I... leave that impression, huh? 

But how do you romance? I've only been playing for two days but I'm curious. Do you romance NPCs or other people's characters? Do I have to do something in particular? I assume, not kill the potential candidates would be a first.

[MaidenM]

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It's been a FU to just about everyone, not just the powers that be.  The Wardens, the Dalish, every element of the mages and templars and Chantry.  Basically, everyone's wrong about at least something important, and no one know s*** about what's actually going on.

 

And omg, the Avvar and their spirit-gods.  I loved that so much.  I think it's rather telling that the Avvar don't have templars.  Every system that fears spirits and treats them as dangerous runs into way more problems than it solves.  But the Avvar's practical understanding of how spirits reflect the living removes that whole toxic element of fear.  Things can still go wrong, but it seems to be the exception rather than the rule.

 

For my Lavellan, who no longer believes in any gods, the Avvar religion was very comforting.  She likes spirits, and she believes in them.  She felt bad for Hakkon, bound to a body and denied his rebirth.  I like to think that they meet up in the Fade for a nice chat once he's been properly reborn.

 

On the Avvar and spirits.

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I love it so very very much. And I love that they treat spirits like people! Like when you meet the Augur and the spirits get to meet you and he just go "don't throng!" like they are excited children The Avvar seems to understand spirits more than anyone, barring Solas (and I'm not even certain about that, spirits reflect people and Solas don't always understand people).

 

When it comes to "abominations", I want to find another word now. A word that goes for the symbiotic relationship the Avvar mages have with spirits. There needs to be a word for them and their spirit-friends!

 

Also, maybe I'm wrong but... when you collect Ameridan's memories there's one point where he refers to his "spirit companion"... Was he... like them? If so, I am fangirling over him more than I thought I would!

[Mims]

On the subject of avvar spirits;

 

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Storvacker was a spirit merged with a bear, correct? It seems like given the opportunity, some spirits would like to coexist with 'mortals'. But at the moment, only a rare few like Cole are able to come across on their own because of the veil.

 

I also found it so sad that the spirit friend of Telana remained by her body for so long just because she asked.

[Delphine]

JoH DLC confirmed to be vailable on 360 (so expecting it on ps3 as well isn't too much of a stretch here):

 

[Delphine]

Spoiler

I also found it so sad that the spirit friend of Telana remained by her body for so long just because she asked.

 

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Everything about Telana makes me sad, to be honest. Poor thing probably lived her entire life not knowing what happened to Ameridan, trying to reach his soul in the Fade in case he had died, but could never find him cause he actually was not dead, just stuck in time. Her pain and suffering made her spirit friend decide to carry on her research for Ameridan long after she died. Everything about Telana gives me feels. I wonder what type of spirit it was though, probably another Compassion?

I need more of Telana&Ameridan guys, I'm not joking. I love them.

[Uirebhiril]

My mind is foggy today and I can't tell if I'm remembering something wrong. The vallaslin - was the practice of doing this started after the fall of the Dales, or was it all the rage during the height of Halamshiral?

 

JoH spoilerish stuff -

 

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I was admiring Ameridan's Dirthamen tattoo and then was surprised by it, because I thought the elves started doing the tattoos after the Dales fell.

 

Happy Birthday to all who have one today. Frilly cakes for all.

[BoscoBread]

I... leave that impression, huh? 

But how do you romance? I've only been playing for two days but I'm curious. Do you romance NPCs or other people's characters? Do I have to do something in particular? I assume, not kill the potential candidates would be a first.

Your companions. It plays pretty much like any other Bioware RPG - just with the MMO stuff tacked on.  It's mostly like DA:O actually - you'll get items that some or only one of your companions may LOVE. You gift them with stuff. Affection increases.  You take them out on missions and depending on your choices or dialogue options you gain/lose approval.  At some point, when you get your ship, you talk to them and there will be kissie faces and a fade to black.

[BoscoBread]

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Everything about Telana makes me sad, to be honest. Poor thing probably lived her entire life not knowing what happened to Ameridan, trying to reach his soul in the Fade in case he had died, but could never find him cause he actually was not dead, just stuck in time. Her pain and suffering made her spirit friend to decide to carry on her research for Ameridan long after she died. Everything about Telana gives me feels. I wonder what type of spirit it was though, probably another Compassion?

I need more of Telana&Ameridan guys, I'm not joking. I love them.

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THIS.  She had her own Cole and then Cole was like 'you've done your duty. you're free" or whatever. I was like *SOB SOB SOB*

[Sable Rhapsody]

On the Avvar and spirits.

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I love it so very very much. And I love that they treat spirits like people! Like when you meet the Augur and the spirits get to meet you and he just go "don't throng!" like they are excited children The Avvar seems to understand spirits more than anyone, barring Solas (and I'm not even certain about that, spirits reflect people and Solas don't always understand people).

 

When it comes to "abominations", I want to find another word now. A word that goes for the symbiotic relationship the Avvar mages have with spirits. There needs to be a word for them and their spirit-friends!

 

Also, maybe I'm wrong but... when you collect Ameridan's memories there's one point where he refers to his "spirit companion"... Was he... like them? If so, I am fangirling over him more than I thought I would!

 

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I think I like the Avvar's approach to spirits because it's so grounded and practical.  They shape the spirits, and the spirits teach and protect them in return.  There's no dogma or moralistic angle in it, not even Solas's weird envy of spirits.  They just are.  They do things this way because it works.  And it seems like that attitude produces the most beneficial and symbiotic relationship for both spirits and mortals.  It's also quite telling that when a mage and spirit ARE in danger of abomination, the Avvar deal with it from both sides.  Their mages watch the person, and the spirits keep tabs on their own.

 

I mean, just look at the difference between Anders and Sigrid.  Sigrid was supposed to give up her spirit-companion, and she couldn't.  In a Circle or Dalish mage, that would be a recipe for insta-abomination, but she's fine.  It's more of a societal thing than a problem with her or her spirit-companion.

 

I wonder if the Rivaini wise woman tradition is related to the Avvar mages and their spirit companions.  The codex entries about Rivain say that they willingly let spirits possess them.

 

On Telana:

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I almost cried listening to her story.  She sounds so anguished.  I'm writing some stuff for my Lavellan that touches on Telana and Ameridan.  Sorry, Solas; I can only handle one tragic elf romance at a time

[Sable Rhapsody]

JoH spoilerish stuff -

 

Spoiler

I was admiring Ameridan's Dirthamen tattoo and then was surprised by it, because I thought the elves started doing the tattoos after the Dales fell.

 

I was wondering about this too.  

 

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Solas says, "After Arlathan fell, the Dalish forgot."  During the scene where he can remove the vallaslin.  (AND YES I HAVE IT MEMORIZED DON'T JUDGE ME)  So the practice probably began after Shartan and Andraste freed the elves and they got a homeland.

[RogueBait]

Some pretty Solas to soothe us.

 

Source: http://slowlyintothe...st/106597229527

 

*heavy breathing*

 

I feel the need to write a poem about this fictional man's jaw. Bear with me.

 

An Ode to the Dread Wolf's Jaw

 

If I were in a room with you,

I'd know the only thing to do

would be to grab your jaw so tight

and angle it into the light.

 

The way it slopes with gentle ease

could possibly not fail to please.

Its angles cut and titillate

and make me want to... well.

 

 

Sorry guys. I'll see myself out.

[Tootles FTW]

Sharing another Solavellan appropriate song that gives me the sads - No Angel by Birdy.

 

Particularly relevant lyrics:

Did you ever really love her

Or was it that you feared letting go
You should have known that you could trust her
But you pretend like I don't know

 

And, hey, you "egg" people even get your reference:  

You see those egg shells, they're broken up
A million pieces, strung out across the ground
 

 

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Remember once the things you told me
And how the tears ran from my eyes
They didn't fall because it hurt me
I just hate to see you cry

Sometimes I wish we could be strangers
So I didn't have to know your pain
But if I kept myself from danger
This emptiness would feel the same

I ain't no angel
I never was
But I never hurt you
It's not my fault
You see those egg shells, they're broken up
A million pieces, strung out across the ground

Did you ever really love her
Or was it that you feared letting go
You should have known that you could trust her
But you pretend like I don't know

I ain't no angel
I never was
But I never hurt you
It's not my fault
You see those egg shells, they're broken up
A million pieces, strung out across the ground

 

I think I may have screwed up with the Celene/Briala thing on my most recent playthrough, because I wanted the Duke to live, too, so I don't think it was possible to hook them back up?  The game is buggy as hell when it comes to the Celene/Gaspard/Briala decision, though - in every game I've done I hear NPCs mention Gaspard dying when I kept him alive, or they refer to Gaspard being alive when I had him killed?  Gaspard needs to get his damn sh!t together!

[Maria13]

Feliz cumpleaños Siha y Sable!

[Moirin]

 

*heavy breathing*

 

I feel the need to write a poem about this fictional man's jaw. Bear with me.

 

An Ode to the Dread Wolf's Jaw

 

If I were in a room with you,

I'd know the only thing to do

would be to grab your jaw so tight

and angle it into the light.

 

The way it slopes with gentle ease

could possibly not fail to please.

Its angles cut and titillate

and make me want to... well.

 

 

Sorry guys. I'll see myself out.

 

 

No need to see yourself out, Solas' jaw is so beautiful it needs an ode.

[Delphine]

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I think I like the Avvar's approach to spirits because it's so grounded and practical.  They shape the spirits, and the spirits teach and protect them in return.  There's no dogma or moralistic angle in it, not even Solas's weird envy of spirits.  They just are.  They do things this way because it works.  And it seems like that attitude produces the most beneficial and symbiotic relationship for both spirits and mortals.  It's also quite telling that when a mage and spirit ARE in danger of abomination, the Avvar deal with it from both sides.  Their mages watch the person, and the spirits keep tabs on their own.

 

I mean, just look at the difference between Anders and Sigrid.  Sigrid was supposed to give up her spirit-companion, and she couldn't.  In a Circle or Dalish mage, that would be a recipe for insta-abomination, but she's fine.  It's more of a societal thing than a problem with her or her spirit-companion.

 

I wonder if the Rivaini wise woman tradition is related to the Avvar mages and their spirit companions.  The codex entries about Rivain say that they willingly let spirits possess them.

 

On Telana:

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I almost cried listening to her story.  She sounds so anguished.  I'm writing some stuff for my Lavellan that touches on Telana and Ameridan.  Sorry, Solas; I can only handle one tragic elf romance at a time

 

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Definitely love the Avvar for the same reasons as yours, I just can't help love spirits (Cassandra and Sera can get lost on that subject), and seeing how the Avvar have their thing going on, and going on so well, just makes me happy as hell, and opens up so many new possibilities. I'm really glad Bioware took the time to put all that into a DLC, I was skeptic before buying it, but I don't regret one bit playing it, it's such an interesting culture!

 

Also, I really love Sigrid. I recruited her as an agent of the Inquisition (Yeah, Cullen, I know you didn't like it, look at me not caring), because she is definitely nothing as threatening as the Chantry would make her to be, and I think her existence could challenge the stereotypes and stigmas of mage-spirit relationships. And the discovery of the fact that mage can part ways with their spirit-companion is also a huge deal, definitely.

 

I wonder what people mostly did about Scout Grandin though. I find that case interesting, because Scout Grandin became possessed by a demon, but said twice that it was willingly and that it was a cohabitation. Despite it being rather odd (because after all, that demon helps him take revenge on the hakkonites in a really creepy way), I couldn't bring myself to kill him. They seems to want each other's company, and their cause seemed just (after all, can't blame him for wanting to kill hakkonites to avenge his friend, they're assholes), but I wonder what happens once all hakkonites are dead, what the demon and Scout Grandin will want to do them, and if that might be the moment they'll become out of control? I don't know, I just let them leave, but I don't know if it was the right choice still.

 

And about Telana, I was the same. Her story really touched me, so I honestly can't wait for your story that will mention Ameridan&Telana to drop!

[Maria13]

 

*heavy breathing*

 

I feel the need to write a poem about this fictional man's jaw. Bear with me.

 

An Ode to the Dread Wolf's Jaw

 

If I were in a room with you,

I'd know the only thing to do

would be to grab your jaw so tight

and angle it into the light.

 

The way it slopes with gentle ease

could possibly not fail to please.

Its angles cut and titillate

and make me want to... well.

 

 

Sorry guys. I'll see myself out.

 

 

It's "vacillate" right?

[BoscoBread]

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Definitely love the Avvar for the same reasons as yours, I just can't help love spirits (Cassandra and Sera can get lost on that subject), and seeing how the Avvar have their thing going on, and going on so well, just makes me happy as hell, and opens up so many new possibilities. I'm really glad Bioware took the time to put all that into a DLC, I was skeptic before buying it, but I don't regret one bit playing it, it's such an interesting culture!

 

Also, I really love Sigrid. I recruited her as an agent of the Inquisition (Yeah, Cullen, I know you didn't like it, look at me not caring), because she is definitely nothing as threatening as the Chantry would make her to be, and I think her existence could challenge the stereotypes and stigmas of mage-spirit relationships. And the discovery of the fact that mage can part ways with their spirit-companion is also a huge deal, definitely.

 

I wonder what people mostly did about Scout Grandin though. I find that case interesting, because Scout Grandin became possessed by a demon, but said twice that it was willingly and that it was a cohabitation. Despite it being rather odd (because after all, that demon helps him take revenge on the hakkonites in a really creepy way), I couldn't bring myself to kill him. They seems to want each other's company, and their cause seemed just (after all, can't blame him for wanting to kill hakkonites to avenge his friend, they're assholes), but I wonder what happens once all hakkonites are dead, what the demon and Scout Grandin will want to do them, and if that might be the moment they'll become out of control? I don't know, I just let them leave, but I don't know if it was the right choice still.

 

And about Telana, I was the same. Her story really touched me, so I honestly can't wait for your story that will mention Ameridan&Telana to drop!

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Sigrid is the **** and Cullen can suck my lady d----.   My Lavellan was a big fan of the Avvar before - because chieftain could GET IT  but now she's like their number #1 fan girl.  I'm so in love with them!!!   I'm so excited to see more of them too...at least I hope we do.  In the end the DLC was a lore dump but a neat and lovely one. I'm pretty pleased with it.  I look forward to the Telana x Ameridan angst fics and the Scout Harding x Kenric FLUFF.