What!? Six to twelve months for secondary platforms, seriously? That's brutal. Guess I should be feeling thankful that we only have to wait a month but I am not I am so annoyed I could burn things.
The most recent that comes to mind is this little game called Destiny for the PS4. Ask Xbox One owners how long they had to wait.
Another question, over all the talk of Lavellan sticking with Solas even after he left: it's been months, right? He left without a word, Lavellan did not hear from him, he's gone and a lot of time has passed. Does she really still carry her old feelings around? I mean, yes, some people are like that, so this is a serious question. It's been about 2+ months that I haven't played DAI now and I'd say I've been over my LI for probably 2 months.
After so much time those feelings wouldn't be present anymore, I'd not even want to go back. It's not like she knew why he left or if she'd see him again, it's not waiting.
People are different. Solas and Lavellan bonded during a crisis time, and for my character anyway, since she was First, I imagine she was guarded about her feelings with others and wasn't off flirting with everyone like another young woman could get away with. Now she's older, so finding a person who she felt for the first time understood her, who then drops her without explanation but obviously not because he doesn't love her, that would leave a lot of unresolved questions. Wanting to find him is not just a matter of their relationship but of the things they discussed about the Fade and her mark. She wants to solve the intellectual puzzle as well as get some answers.
"Not moving on" doesn't necessarily mean pining away. Though I imagine in the case of my character, she would mourn for a long time and not just fall easily into another relationship. Certainly as a player, I have no interest in Cullen or any tacked-on Abelas romance or whoever else might come up. I'm not sure any romance can top Solavellan.
<snip> because long.
That's a really interesting and valuable perspective, and one I certainly employ in my every day life. I'm also super proud so… hanging on waiting for someone to care about me really rubs me the wrong way. Just makes me feel gross.
But Lavellan isn't me, and I think she's not completely naive to what's up. Or, I just don't feel like she could be. I think it's obvious that Solas is up to something and I think that, suspecting that, she'd be hard pressed to write him off completely.
But, again, this all keeps coming back to the fact that I, as the person creating and controlling her, have knowledge that she does not. And so striking a balance between what I theoretically want for her and what she would actually want for herself based on the knowledge she does possess, is difficult.
"Not moving on" doesn't necessarily mean pining away. Though I imagine in the case of my character, she would mourn for a long time and not just fall easily into another relationship. Certainly as a player, I have no interest in Cullen or any tacked-on Abelas romance or whoever else might come up. I'm not sure any romance can top Solavellan.
Not only that, I also don't think it would be good for her. People are aware of the situation and then going about and just picking another man who's close at hand surely would not be the right thing to do for her. It might even feel awkward. Besides, they are all colleagues. Having a relationship with one of them because he is special is one thing. But then just jumping off to try with the next one is another matter entirely. I can't even imagine any character you play would be so weak and needy to go there.
But what about another person, who Lavellan has not met yet?
And, actually, I did not even want to go there. But simply the "would she go back in any case" thing. You can get closure and still decide to move on, like you can refuse to get back together with Fenris when he asks you 3 years later. This struck me as odd. Of course I got back together with him, it was a game and my last cut scene with him had only been a few hours ago. But in real life (especially after 3 years of seeing him almost every day)? I can't imagine.
I understand both of you, but that was me 10 years ago. Now having gone through the experience a few times, I have learned that you hardly ever get a reason. And if you got it, it often would not actually help you. When I was younger I needed closure so badly, but over time I've learned that this was not good for me. And the more often I experienced that history repeats itself, the less I needed this closure. I would still prefer to get it, but I would not diminish myself for it anymore. Waiting months for somebody to tell me why he left me? Especially if that person never tried to reach out and help me understand? My pride would not allow that anymore. Usually that person will not give you what you want (and more often than not it is not even about closure, even if we tell that ourselves, it is the desire to get a change to put things right, to convince the other one and make him see that there's a chance after all) and so you just risk looking like a fool.
In real life there is usually only one reason, which is "you are just not enough to want to stick with you". What this "enough" is, is almost irrelevant. Not pretty enough, not funny enough, not smart enough, not open-minded enough, not whatever enough. What does it matter in the end? You are what you are, you cannot (or should not) just change because somebody else would prefer you were different. All you can do is find somebody else who does want to stick around.
Lavellan's case would be a bit different if she knew he's that infamous ancient elf, who had no other chance but to leave. But she does not know, so neither I nor she can consider this in the thinking process. All she knows is he left her and never got back in touch. He knows where she is, never tried to send a message. That he has good reason to do so she might assume but cannot know.
But that's why I asked, because how people handle feelings and how long they stick to somebody who left is so individual. I know people in real life who couldn't get over somebody for years.
This is utterly sane and reasonable - and in real life I hope I'm entirely of the same mind. Certainly there are a lot of Solas-isms which I imagine I'd never actually be able to put up with.
Maybe this is just where tastes in fiction can differ widely, because one of my very favourite things about Origins was being dumped by Alistair. Permanently dumped, too, because I was never tempted to replay it with a happy ending. It was just so satisfying to me, because it was true to his character, and true to mine as well - it felt like the proper outcome, whereas of course that's not a scenario that would normally give me any joy. But for a good, satisfying story, I'll make a whole different set of allowances.
It looks like it's all strappy.
I'm also curious. You know, for uh, research....that next fic will happen eventually.
He's a guy who knows how to layer...
[Pun intended]
Not only that, I also don't think it would be good for her. People are aware of the situation and then going about and just picking another man who's close at hand surely would not be the right thing to do for her. It might even feel awkward. Besides, they are all colleagues. Having a relationship with one of them because he is special is one thing. But then just jumping off to try with the next one is another matter entirely. I can't even imagine any character you play would be so weak and needy to go there.
But what about another person, who Lavellan has not met yet?
And, actually, I did not even want to go there. But simply the "would she go back in any case" thing. You can get closure and still decide to move on, like you can refuse to get back together with Fenris when he asks you 3 years later. This struck me as odd. Of course I got back together with him, it was a game and my last cut scene with him had only been a few hours ago. But in real life (especially after 3 years of seeing him almost every day)? I can't imagine.
Well not to dump on Fenris again (*hides from nikki*), but it was one reason why the whole "three year time out" made their relationship implausible to me beyond thinking of it as a diversionary minigame in an otherwise mediocre game.
For Lavellan, at least as I see her, there's not going to be a lot of men who would ever be in the position to win her. She's a Dalish elf without her vallaslin, and a mage who like Solas is more interested in the Fade than in the real world, though she'd try to focus on solving real world problems with her magic. Her work and the mark means she'll be isolated a lot. Maybe forever. I think about Isseya, also. For certain people, a happily ever after isn't in the cards.
Well not to dump on Fenris again (*hides from nikki*), but it was one reason why the whole "three year time out" made their relationship implausible to me beyond thinking of it as a diversionary minigame in an otherwise mediocre game.
For Lavellan, at least as I see her, there's not going to be a lot of men who would ever be in the position to win her. She's a Dalish elf without her vallaslin, and a mage who like Solas is more interested in the Fade than in the real world, though she'd try to focus on solving real world problems with her magic. Her work and the mark means she'll be isolated a lot. Maybe forever. I think about Isseya, also. For certain people, a happily ever after isn't in the cards.
I think it would be pretty fair to say that the dread wolf leaves his mark on mage Lavellan especially if she is mature enough to really appreciate him.
It is not only a question of emotion but of experience, there can be very few mages at Solas's level, and insofar as his perspectives on magic are concerned, he is unique. And then there is the whole 'elfiness' issue, again on this he had unique and exceptional views. A relationship is far more than just love and sex it is often a merging of minds and the sharing of perspectives on all sorts of issues, politics, the nature of power, the idea of freedom, tolerance et cetera. All of which can make moving on particularly complicated.
This dude, this dude's who people were lusting over? Really?
He's got a flipping purple feather in his head
You guys can do better than that
Lusting over is a strong word. Let's just say I find redheads cute, and I love his relationship with Harding :3
Lusting over is a strong word. Let's just say I find redheads cute, and I love his relationship with Harding :3
Well, at least we agree on redheads. And Harding 
Everyone's posting like he'll never come back! Is it too optimistic to plan that Solas will return to the Inquisition?
I'm actually a very pessimistic person ... but for some reason I believe this ...
There is a single tier 3 chest in the Hinterlands. I farmed there for ages and got battlemage mail before I even did In Hushed Whispers. Guess what Solas was wearing for the entire game?
Oooh! Where is this chest?! I must find it!
Oooh! Where is this chest?! I must find it!
The treasure room of Valammar. It's in a dark corner near a fallen pillar. The Darkspawn also respwan each time you go in, but it's worth it to get the tier three loot and schematics early in the game.
Maybe this is just where tastes in fiction can differ widely, because one of my very favourite things about Origins was being dumped by Alistair. Permanently dumped, too, because I was never tempted to replay it with a happy ending. It was just so satisfying to me, because it was true to his character, and true to mine as well - it felt like the proper outcome, whereas of course that's not a scenario that would normally give me any joy. But for a good, satisfying story, I'll make a whole different set of allowances.
I think people can and do enjoy different things. Personally, I've never replayed Origins since I felt completely satisfied, and my Warden married Alistair and lived. That kind of ending, nothing could top it. Though I have been kind of itching to replay recently due to lore and things.
As I've mentioned before, my Hawke was running off with Anders somewhere, helping him. I left Stroud behind so that there might be an eventual chance she'd return to Anders and help keep him together. (I hope...)
And now, this, with Solas. All of these stories are different and had their impact on me.
Even with Mass Efffect, my Shepard was with Liara across the series, but their relationship also had its....complications. It felt realistic, and so did the ones my DA PCs have had.
There's just SO much going on under the surface with Solas, and he's such a tragic character, that it adds up to something else, and the lack of closure is more glaring.
There's just SO much going on under the surface with Solas, and he's such a tragic character, that it adds up to something else, and the lack of closure is more glaring.
I think it's just that the story doesn't feel over. I mean, obviously on a logical level we know it isn't. But Lavellan isn't the only one lacking a sense of closure here. For the player too, we're left with a really strong sense that their story isn't quite finished.
Edit: Also because I think we all know having the Inquisitor find out who Solas really is, whether Lavellan or not, is just waaaaay to juicy to be left alone.
Everyone's posting like he'll never come back! Is it too optimistic to plan that Solas will return to the Inquisition?
I'm actually a very pessimistic person ... but for some reason I believe this ...
I think you'll see him again - 100%. Obviously. The story is set up that way and the devs have all but confirmed this through hints. Do I think he'll pop up back in Skyhold one day and be like 'WAT UP! I'M THE MOTHER -F'IN DREAD WOLF' and just go about business? No. I think if you have him in a party again it's going to be temporary, like you have to team up because something is going down that he's a part of. I think that's when the romance arc may get resolved as well.
Everyone let's take a moment to watch this....and listen to this.
(it makes me feel better anyway)
I really needed this right now. I was busily listening to Weekes talk about Solas and I thought I could handle it but I was wrong. So wrong. It's too sad. So thank you for this hilarious saxophone music.
It's a bit of a late reply, but since you were looking for that post... Here it is.
http://bloodorangely...l-me-now-is-not
Spoiler
Nope. It's all good...I am so bookmarking this and sending on to my co-worker right now 
Everyone let's take a moment to watch this....and listen to this.
<snip saxual Solas>
(it makes me feel better anyway)
The only ending I will accept is this:
Solas: Come with me vhenan! *throws on a pair of Raybans and pulls out his sax and starts to play this epic beat*
Lavellan: Yes! *starts to dance like a massive dork*
And they boogie into the sunset.
Saxy Solas is best Solas
EDIT: Can I just say how much I love Eurovision.
Nope. It's all good...I am so bookmarking this and sending on to my co-worker right now
Sorry I couldn't find it for you. Glad you got it.
Another question, over all the talk of Lavellan sticking with Solas even after he left: it's been months, right? He left without a word, Lavellan did not hear from him, he's gone and a lot of time has passed. Does she really still carry her old feelings around? I mean, yes, some people are like that, so this is a serious question. It's been about 2+ months that I haven't played DAI now and I'd say I've been over my LI for probably 2 months.
"Small talk, masks that smile, pleasantries like ritual obeisances you've learned the formula for but have no care about - alone, but not lonely."
For some, connections are fewer and farther between, not necessarily due to pining for those gone, but as a consequence of the lives they have chosen or beliefs they hold (or don't). Open to new, of course. Aware of odds, certainly... I can see Solas holding on to that far longer than many Lavellans, even with no intention to return. I think it depends heavily on the sort of character everyone has chosen to play. In some stories, she is taken completely by surprise, left alone without solace, and pining/rebound/move on is more likely to come up than in versions where she was less surprised.
This Epic Sax Guy remix is on my playlist since it came out:
Aaaah Eurovision is always so full of such jewels. It's the best part of being European, for sure.
(And the rest of the world shall never understand that!)
Aaaah Eurovision is always so full of such jewels. It's the best part of being European, for sure.
(And the rest of the world shall never understand that!)
We (Australia) get to be a part of the fun this year!!! And our entry is like… seriously underwhelming and will probs not fit in with the madness. But at least we can pretend.
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