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Lol I didn't realize Solas' denial over the Fade-tongue would spark such discussion. XD

 

On Kaidan, I just started playing Mass Effect for the first time last week. I actually really like Kaidan and wanted to romance him on the spot, but I've heard of other great companions and now feel torn between four romances. Him, Liara, Garrus and Thane--the last one because you guys have said that those who romanced Thane tend to also go for Solas. Since I adore Solas, I want to see what Thane's appeal is. Unfortunately, I don't like Mass Effect enough to play four 3-game-long playthroughs, so someone had to get on the chopping block.

 

(It also doesn't help that after one conversation I realized Kaidan reminds me too much of my sister's previously broken up ex-boyfriend. He looks just like him, and has a similar easygoing personality, and it's revealed he also suffered migraines and has a traumatic past. Unfortunately, my sister's ex-beau also has mental health issues and a traumatic past, and in reality people don't tend to stay that easygoing under the surface after suffering such circumstances. As much as I like Kaidan, between the competition and the reminder of a real life acquaintance, he has to go.)



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Lol I didn't realize Solas' denial over the Fade-tongue would spark such discussion. XD

 

On Kaidan, I just started playing Mass Effect for the first time last week. I actually really like Kaidan and wanted to romance him on the spot, but I've heard of other great companions and now feel torn between four romances. Him, Liara, Garrus and Thane--the last one because you guys have said that those who romanced Thane tend to also go for Solas. Since I adore Solas, I want to see what Thane's appeal is. Unfortunately, I don't like Mass Effect enough to play four 3-game-long playthroughs, so someone had to get on the chopping block.

 

(It also doesn't help that after one conversation I realized Kaidan reminds me too much of my sister's previously broken up ex-boyfriend. He looks just like him, and has a similar easygoing personality, and it's revealed he also suffered migraines and has a traumatic past. Unfortunately, my sister's ex-beau also has mental health issues and a traumatic past, and in reality people don't tend to stay that easygoing under the surface after suffering such circumstances. As much as I like Kaidan, between the competition and the reminder of a real life acquaintance, he has to go.)

 

*looks at the icons under your profile picture*

 

You clearly play those games very quickly!

 

As for LI, I'd go for either Liara or Garrus.  Thane gets screwed over by the devs very badly.



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Oh April Fools Bioware...it's cute though..it's a real shame it's a joke

http://www.bioware.com/nugelope/

Make it happen, Bioware!

I mean, there is an actual pigeon dating sim, so why not nugs?

 

The weird thing about Kaidan is that my canon Shep cheated on him with Garrus (she was lonely...) but then got back together with him. And he took the Garrus affair pretty well. I was surprised. Now I'm playing a Liara romance with a new femShep and he won't stop hitting on her! In ME3, that is. He was there when the two lovers reunited on Mars!!! WTF, Kaidan?! It's one thing to have a crush on somebody, but you don't bring it up knowing the other person is in a relationship. With the other sex, no less! And besides, galactic war and everything...?

I'm discovering new sides of him, and I don't like them.

 

I felt like taking a shower for five hours after every conversation femShep had with Jacob. People raged about the ending. I think it was a far worse crime to make Jennifer Hale talk like that with Jacob. I'm only half-joking. Just no.



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Yeah, poor Thane, he could have been so much more. For me, I'm a Garrus girl all the way (though don't look at my profile badges cause I would play it on my brother's stolen account). He gets more screen time and if that raptor was a real-life guy, I';d be over him like Solas on the Fade.


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You clearly play those games very quickly!

 

As for LI, I'd go for either Liara or Garrus.  Thane gets screwed over by the devs very badly.

 

HA! I wish. (EDIT: Seriously, this is slow-going.)

 

I just bought the Mass Effect Trilogy on Amazon ($25 for all 3!), which requires Origin to install. The games are registered to my account even though I'm not halfway done with the first one.  :pinched:

 

Yeah, I heard something about that. After ME3 came out, the forums exploded with unhappy customers decrying... mostly the ending, but also the fates of their LIs. I saw a lot of "Thanes deserves better" slogans, but I also saw that of a few others LIs, so I have no idea about the circumstances surrounding it. Since the ending seems to suck no matter what and many LIs get screwed over anyway, I've braced myself for whatever may come.


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HA! I wish.

 

I just bought the Mass Effect Trilogy on Amazon ($25 for all 3!), which requires Origin to install. The games are registered to my account even though I'm not halfway done with the first one.  :pinched:

 

Yeah, I heard something about that. After ME3 came out, the forums exploded with unhappy customers decrying... mostly the ending, but also the fates of their LIs. I saw a lot of "Thanes deserves better" slogans, but I also saw that of a few others LIs, so I have no idea about the circumstances surrounding it. Since the ending seems to suck no matter what and many LIs get screwed over anyway, I've braced myself for whatever may come.

 

ME2 is the best of the three, and it has Lair of the Shadow Broker which the best DLC I have played from Bioware.  It's what I'm hoping for with Wolf Hunt actually.

 

EDIT: And if you want to read the ME EU then stay away from the final book.  It's just terrible.


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I had the exact same problem with Shepard and Jacob.  My Shpeard:

1) A lesbian

2) Faithful to Liara

3) Had the sole surivour background.

 

She was not going to be flirting with someone from Cerberus!

That was mine too. sole Survivor and Earthborn so.....she had a lonely life and wasn't about to be flirting with a man, and one who also worked for Cerberus. I RPed her journey as one of redemption, so even though she was tipped with Renegade bonuses, this was like....getting everything together and learning to maybe actually trust (and love) again.

 

Wasn't tempted by Garrus. He's too much of a best friend and Liara captured my attention from the beginning.


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I only ever played ME1. Romanced Kadian. But I didn't enjoy the game enough to pick up the rest of the series.



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Uggg...Jacob..he repulses me!  Don't flirt with him!!  He'll cheat on you!! After my first play through, my Shepards never talk to him..and I always kill him at the end of ME2 so I don't have to see him in ME3.

Jacob bored me so much it took everything I had just to get him to be friends with me so I could do his quest.  He was terribly dull.  I didn't find out until this year - on this thread actually - that he just cheats on you. I don't know why, but I find it amusing. He's finally interesting but only in the way that total douchebags are. 


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Thane gets screwed over by the devs very badly.

How so? Not more than any of the other new LIs from ME2, I'd say. I'm very glad he didn't get a Disney happy ending. His story ended appropriately.



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Though I did learn that I guess I'm drawn to the kind of awkward, nerdy types. I should've expected Solas. But he is the one character since Liara to just utterly draw me in so heavily.


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That was mine too. sole Survivor and Earthborn so.....she had a lonely life and wasn't about to be flirting with a man, and one who also worked for Cerberus. I RPed her journey as one of redemption, so even though she was tipped with Renegade bonuses, this was like....getting everything together and learning to maybe actually trust (and love) again.

 

Wasn't tempted by Garrus. He's too much of a best friend and Liara captured my attention from the beginning.

 

Your Shepard and my Shearpd sound a lot alike.  Earthborn, sole surviour, Liara romance.  Mine was very much a paragon though, but it tended to be for renegade reasons (my favourite of these is making Anderson the Councillor and then telling Udina it's because you don't want him in charge.)  I did see her as constantly fighting against her darker side.


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OTP: 

 

You guys are all so great on tumblr and stuff, but I'm looking for an artist to commission a logo for my new book blog I'm starting- and I wondered if you guys could suggest anyone you really love right now on tumblr that is open for commission?

 

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I feel like people are always giving high praise to Gareth David-Lloyd, and it's truly deserved, but honestly if I could kiss every damn person involved in animating Solas on the forehead, I would, and not only once. It's also a huge part of who he is, his physical/facial expressions, and all those subtle changes of expression that gives away his inner thoughts and desires. Damn, they did a stellar job on Solas, really. Pretty sure he wouldn't have touched us so much if they hadn't.

I don't know their names, so I'll just call them Solas 3D Animation Team.

 

So here, Solas 3D Animation Team, I love you all, you rock & deserve to be praised too, you shiny crazy-talented diamonds!


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Though I did learn that I guess I'm drawn to the kind of awkward, nerdy types. 

Not that you care, but Solas always came across as soft spoken/nice guy type (I prefer the rough/rude type). 

Once my Inquisitor got to know him though he comes across as more wise/dominate. I like dominate :3 /cough

I don't know that I'd label Solas as awkward though. He's a smooth talker :P 



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I feel like people are always giving high praise to Gareth David-Lloyd, and it's truly deserved, but honestly if I could kiss every damn person involved in Solas 3D animation on the forehead, I would, and not only once. It's also a huge part of who he is, his physical/facial expression, and all those subtle changes of expression that gives away his inner thoughts and desires. Damn, they did a stellar job on Solas, really. Pretty sure he wouldn't have touched us so much if they hadn't.

I don't know their names, so I'll just call them Solas 3D Animation Team.

 

So here, Solas 3D Animation Team, I love you all, you rock & deserve to be praised too, you shiny crazy-talented diamonds!

Yeah.  Solas is actually pretty economical in his speech and betrays a lot of his emotions through facial expressions.  GDL did a GREAT job selling Solas' care for the Inquisitor in that final scene.  But the cinematics department. Holy ****.  So much was said in those facial expressions between the Quizzy and him.  You just see how wrecked he is, I believed it. 


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Your Shepard and my Shearpd sound a lot alike.  Earthborn, sole surviour, Liara romance.  Mine was very much a paragon though, but it tended to be for renegade reasons (my favourite of these is making Anderson the Councillor and then telling Udina it's because you don't want him in charge.)  I did see her as constantly fighting against her darker side.

 

True, I think they came form similar approaches. Mine battled herself a lot and then after what happens in ME2 and beyond, has those doubts on top of others. She also had a lonely life, one where people left or died or betrayed and she had to rely upon herself a lot. Also partly why she's Infiltrator class....lone wolf, sort of. But all of the events of the games bring her back into a place where she has to try and learn to rely on others again and by ME3, when a lot of your journey is that same lesson.....



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I feel like people are always giving high praise to Gareth David-Lloyd, and it's truly deserved, but honestly if I could kiss every damn person involved in animating Solas on the forehead, I would, and not only once. It's also a huge part of who he is, his physical/facial expression, and all those subtle changes of expression that gives away his inner thoughts and desires. Damn, they did a stellar job on Solas, really. Pretty sure he wouldn't have touched us so much if they hadn't.

I don't know their names, so I'll just call them Solas 3D Animation Team.

 

So here, Solas 3D Animation Team, I love you all, you rock & deserve to be praised too, you shiny crazy-talented diamonds!

 

I've been saying this all along myself. The new engine, the animators, the motion capture people, the cutscene team, everyone involved in Solas. His expressions are often SO subtle and effective and realistic that it all works  to deliver us the pain.

 

 

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Not that you care, but Solas always came across as soft spoken/nice guy type (I prefer the rough/rude type). 

Once my Inquisitor got to know him though he comes across as more wise/dominate. I like dominate :3 /cough

I don't know that I'd label Solas as awkward though. He's a smooth talker :P

 

I think the players impression of his character really evolves over the course of the game, his first little scene has him seeming very… dorky? Kinda like 'hey I'm the smart guy and I'm very excited about it'. idk. But the same can be said for all of the characters, they all develop in such a way as to challenge our initial impressions of them. Most of them.


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I've been saying this all along myself. The new engine, the animators, the motion capture people, the cutscene team, everyone involved in Solas. His expressions are often SO subtle and effective and realistic that it all works  to deliver us the pain.

 

 

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Exactly.
And here I am, wondering who was Solas actor(s?) for the motion capture part... Damn!



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ME2 is the best of the three, and it has Lair of the Shadow Broker which the best DLC I have played from Bioware.  It's what I'm hoping for with Wolf Hunt actually.

 

EDIT: And if you want to read the ME EU then stay away from the final book.  It's just terrible.

 

Yeah, I've heard nothing but praise for the second one. (Well, less so from other traditional cRPG fans like myself, so I'm wary.)

 

To be honest, I'm not that into sci fi or modern console games. I kind of wanted to just play ME2 to see what all the hype was about and end it there, but my friend said the default worldstate of ME2 SUCKS, and it's better to play the first game so you know and appreciate what's going on in the second.

 

Your Shepard and my Shearpd sound a lot alike.  Earthborn, sole surviour, Liara romance.  Mine was very much a paragon though, but it tended to be for renegade reasons (my favourite of these is making Anderson the Councillor and then telling Udina it's because you don't want him in charge.)  I did see her as constantly fighting against her darker side.

 

Earthborn/Sole Survivor background? That makes three of us. I've also resolved to romance Liara for my "canon" 3-game-run. (Will probably create a second playthrough or divergent path for Garrus, and possibly a third one for Thane.) I also kind of play her as someone with Renegade leanings, but who makes a conscious effort to make Paragon choices. (Mostly she leans toward "neutral/"stoic" middle options.)


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Exactly.
And here I am, wondering who was Solas actor(s?) for the motion capture part... Damn!

 

The team used two actors, I think, for all or most of the motion capture stuff. They were actually in a relationship together and there was some sort of hat for Qunari mocap.

 

I talked to Sarah Hayward at PAX East about a month ago about some of this stuff. Very briefly, but she told of the care they took in the motion capture as well as and especially with what an impact they knew that final scene with Solas would have. There are nine branches to that and they all had to be planned and animated and then she even mentioned the one where your Lavellan is the one to walk away and leave him looking all super sad.


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OTP: 

 

You guys are all so great on tumblr and stuff, but I'm looking for an artist to commission a logo for my new book blog I'm starting- and I wondered if you guys could suggest anyone you really love right now on tumblr that is open for commission?

 

No specific style in mind really, but needs to do more than people.

 

I'm a graphic designer by career choice...i do logos in my sleep...



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Earthborn/Sole Survivor background? That makes three of us. I've also resolved to romance Liara for my "canon" 3-game-run. 

 

Four  :D Though I just picked it because it was the default, and I knew very little about Mass Effect going into ME1.  Then I started thinking about the type of person that background would actually produce.  The RP definitely got more interesting after that.

 

 

Jacob bored me so much it took everything I had just to get him to be friends with me so I could do his quest.  He was terribly dull.  I didn't find out until this year - on this thread actually - that he just cheats on you. I don't know why, but I find it amusing. He's finally interesting but only in the way that total douchebags are. 

 

So here's where I admit that Jacob actually grew on me over a replay of ME2 with ManShep.  First, I didn't have to dodge all the awkward flirts, and could actually talk to him like a human being <_<  Second, it was nice having someone sane and normal around to balance out all the crazy aboard my ship, and he wasn't that bad about Cerberus either once you did a little digging.  But I wound up killing him on the suicide mission to spare him the character assassination in ME3.  Same with Thane.  I figured they were better served going out in a blaze of glory.



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