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Druid is what I was most tempted by, I want to roll a Fire Godlike instead of a Nature Godlike.  Does it make a difference?

 

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Rofl, that is all.

 

 

 

Maybe... though the dialogue exchange with an angered Solas comes to mind here. Rough quote here: "I thought Humans brutish and thugs. And you proved me right. You have no idea what a comfort that is." -Cue dem chills, yo.

I'm going to throw in here that Solas' racial bias really shouldn't be discounted. YES, he was for equality. But for who? His own people. To the point that he even reiterates multiple times that he doesn't take the modern elves REGARDLESS of origin (Dalish, city, etc.) to be his own people either. They certainly don't live forever. And they MOST certainly have no similarities culturally - the personalities of the gods they worship, their ability to focus on aesthetics and the greater questions of philosophy, art, the nature of the world, spirits etc. have absolutely nothing in common with modern Dalish culture and religious practice which is practically hunter-gatherer subsistence. 

 

His first discussion with a Lavellan he later considers a relationship with is largely condemning of both her culture and her people. He doesn't give her an equal say in how her people are - he TELLS her how her people are. Gets pretty pissy when she expresses pride and/ or knowledge for what she is. He tells Varric he and his people are like a severed limb from what the once were. Don't get me started on how he feels about the Qunari.

 

He's a full on racist grandpa, yo. But he's OUR racist grandpa with a great accent, a revolutionary past (again, for his people alone) that makes up for his pajama wearing ways in our dreadlocked head canons, and still knows how to make a woman bend at the knees with a kiss. He's just got flaws and misconceptions about the world like literally everyone else. And those flaws are what make him interesting. White washing or minimizing them makes him bland. Like Wonder bread. 


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The future of the people, maybe not, but if it's about who he is, I'd say he has every right to decide whether someone can handle his truth, since it concerns his own personal identity and life. She's not his wife.

 

Even if she was, marriages are defined by the promises/commitments one person makes to another. What that would entail would largely depend on what they exchanged. No promises made, none broken, even if they are viewed by other people as having some status or another...

 

 

The future of the People isn't his to determine.  It doesn't belong to him alone.  It belongs to Lavellan, to the city elves, to the Dalish, to the elves who are still enslaved in Tevinter.

 

That's a tough one, because we are diverging into history-is-written-by-the-victors territory. It is incredibly arrogant to make decisions for entire groups of people, absolutely. I think though that it's also important to remember that for individuals who find themselves in positions to affect change, whether owing to knowledge, wealth, status, whatever power that places them in a pivotal position, not acting is as much a conscious choice as acting - not just the default way of life that it is for most.

The Inquisitor makes countless decisions affecting entire nations, worlds even, if one counts the effects on the Fade, but the consequences of inaction are deemed far greater. Without knowing any plans or motives yet, it's true we can't be sure either way... but as arrogant as it ever is to decide you know what is best, people are sometimes dragged along in the wake of passionate individuals rather than taking steps together, in harmony... has harmony happened? :P

Hopefully this doesn't come off as Solas-defense - I don't mean that at all. He could be in the put-down-like-a-mad-dog territory. I only hesitate to condemn on the basis of all actions that decide lives of others are automatically dick-punch territory. I might wish it were otherwise, but I couldn't say it isn't a reality...


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I'm going to throw in here that Solas' racial bias really shouldn't be discounted. YES, he was for equality. But for who? His own people. To the point that he even reiterates multiple times that he doesn't take the modern elves REGARDLESS of origin (Dalish, city, etc.) to be his own people either. They certainly don't live forever. And they MOST certainly have no similarities culturally - the personalities of the gods they worship, their ability to focus on aesthetics and the greater questions of philosophy, art, the nature of the world, spirits etc. have absolutely nothing in common with modern Dalish culture and religious practice which is practically hunter-gatherer subsistence. 

 

His first discussion with a Lavellan he later considers a relationship with is largely condemning of both her culture and her people. He doesn't give her an equal say in how her people are - he TELLS her how her people are. Gets pretty pissy when she expresses pride and/ or knowledge for what she is. He tells Varric he and his people are like a severed limb from what the once were. Don't get me started on how he feels about the Qunari.

 

While this is definitely true, I do think he grows over the course of the game. He never backs down on the Qun, but his conversations with Varric definitely take on a different and less judgemental tone, and he admits to Lavellan that he may have been too hasty in his judgement of the Dalish.


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His first discussion with a Lavellan he later considers a relationship with is largely condemning of both her culture and her people. He doesn't give her an equal say in how her people are - he TELLS her how her people are. Gets pretty pissy when she expresses pride and/ or knowledge for what she is. He tells Varric he and his people are like a severed limb from what the once were. Don't get me started on how he feels about the Qunari.

 

Oh god, the qunari.  Like, seriously, my Adaar doesn't even like the qunari.  His mom fled the Qun so he wouldn't wind up a saarebas.  And even he thinks Solas is being a tremendous dick about it all.  Solas's racist streak definitely comes out the strongest when playing a qunari Inquisitor.  But it's also possible to gain Solas's respect and friendship even then...I can't decide if that's a good thing or not.  Solas clearly changes his mind about the Inquisitor, but not even a friendly qunari Inquisitor seems to soften his attitude toward the qunari as a people.

 

 

The Inquisitor makes countless decisions affecting entire nations, worlds even, if one counts the effects on the Fade, but the consequences of inaction are deemed far greater. Without knowing any plans or motives yet, it's true we can't be sure either way... but as arrogant as it ever is to decide you know what is best, people are sometimes dragged along in the wake of passionate individuals rather than taking steps together, in harmony... has harmony happened? :P

Hopefully this doesn't come off as Solas-defense - I don't mean that at all. He could be in the put-down-like-a-mad-dog territory. I only hesitate to condemn on the basis of all actions that decide lives of others are automatically dick-punch territory. I might wish it were otherwise, but I couldn't say it isn't a reality...

 

I think for me, the difference is that the Inquisitor is effectively forced into a situation where they have to make those huge decisions; quizzy doesn't just choose to wander off and determine the fate of the world the way Solas does at the end.  There's literally no one else who can close the rifts, no one else whom people believe to be the Herald of Andraste.  No one else who can inspire enough unity to get anything done.

 

Is it possible that Solas is literally the only person who can do what he's off to do?  Maybe, and maybe I should give him the benefit of the doubt there  :) But I think I'm still sufficiently irritated with his other flaws to give him a decent punch or two  :lol:


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The heart is there to draw the gaze of his lady love. Also, thank you for teaching me a new word today.

 

You're welcome. It's a good one.

 

I think the line, "Whatever is it to come, know that what we had is real.." is a pretty big indicator he's not coming back to the Inquisition..at least not any time soon. And the "had" indicates he's not coming back to Lavellan either :(

Unless he has a total change of heart or other plans etc...There's always hope, yes there's always hope **rocks backwards and forwards hugging knees and grinning madly**

 

By Solas returning to the Inquisition, I didn't mean it as a permanent return, or as a recommencing of his relationship with a romanced Lavellan. What I mean is this: I think it a distinct possibility that Solas may need the Inquisitor (regardless of whether or not they're a romanced Lavellan) for the anchor, and may seek them out as a result.

 

I'm not entirely convinced this is what's going to happen, as there are tons of possibilities, but I do think it's one to consider. :)

 

And there's always headcanon for fluffy relationship continuation... at least, until they shatter our dreams with canon.


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oh...my...god....why has all of this Solas supposition regarding the breakup and his plans left me in an even deeper hell spiral??!! *backs away from the thread slowly*


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I'm going to throw in here that Solas' racial bias really shouldn't be discounted. YES, he was for equality. But for who? His own people. To the point that he even reiterates multiple times that he doesn't take the modern elves REGARDLESS of origin (Dalish, city, etc.) to be his own people either. They certainly don't live forever. And they MOST certainly have no similarities culturally - the personalities of the gods they worship, their ability to focus on aesthetics and the greater questions of philosophy, art, the nature of the world, spirits etc. have absolutely nothing in common with modern Dalish culture and religious practice which is practically hunter-gatherer subsistence. 

 

His first discussion with a Lavellan he later considers a relationship with is largely condemning of both her culture and her people. He doesn't give her an equal say in how her people are - he TELLS her how her people are. Gets pretty pissy when she expresses pride and/ or knowledge for what she is. He tells Varric he and his people are like a severed limb from what the once were. Don't get me started on how he feels about the Qunari.

 

He's a full on racist grandpa, yo. But he's OUR racist grandpa with a great accent, a revolutionary past (again, for his people alone) that makes up for his pajama wearing ways in our dreadlocked head canons, and still knows how to make a woman bend at the knees with a kiss. He's just got flaws and misconceptions about the world like literally everyone else. And those flaws are what make him interesting. White washing or minimizing them makes him bland. Like Wonder bread. 

This^

 

In the fire swamp, when Solas says, "The Dalish did one thing right. They made  you," I was like: ERRRRR. I did not read that as some grand romantic gesture. Or cute. I was like, "ONE THING? Fine. Ima keep my vallaslin."  


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While this is definitely true, I do think he grows over the course of the game. He never backs down on the Qun, but his conversations with Varric definitely take on a different and less judgemental tone, and he admits to Lavellan that he may have been too hasty in his judgement of the Dalish.

Going to reiterate that again, his stuff with Lavellan ONLY happens IF you make the choices HE likes. And you stuff your tongues down each other's tonsils. And it's pretty clear that even at the balcony scene, YOU are the exception. He approves of you the most when you say that your people aren't responsible for you and your choices. You either earn zero points of approval or negative approval for saying some version of "hey, my people did have a role in my life and decision making." He'll still kiss you at the end of that scene, but it's not without a biting comment in his own head about him loving you anyway despite your ignorance and ties to a flawed culture/ people.

Balcony scene with a Qunari is him rambling for AGES about how terrible he thought Qunari were and five minutes later turning to you and saying, "Well, at least YOU alone are different. I respect you. But your people? Messed up, brah." *back pat*

The moral of the story is - if you happen to be what he wants, he'll like you. If you challenge him, make choices he disagrees with, refuse to bend to his philsophy about life, the universe, everything - he shuts you down HARD. And your companions HARD as well if they voice disagreements with him that they refuse to budge on. The answer to everything for Solas is ALWAYS 42. And he'll let his mask slide a quarter of the way for you should you happen to agree.


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Oh god, the qunari.  Like, seriously, my Adaar doesn't even like the qunari.  His mom fled the Qun so he wouldn't wind up a saarebas.  And even he thinks Solas is being a tremendous dick about it all.  Solas's racist streak definitely comes out the strongest when playing a qunari Inquisitor.  But it's also possible to gain Solas's respect and friendship even then...I can't decide if that's a good thing or not.  Solas clearly changes his mind about the Inquisitor, but not even a friendly qunari Inquisitor seems to soften his attitude toward the qunari as a people.

 

 

And that's always been my issue with him.  Even though I enjoyed the romance there were a few times I was like 'say what now?'

 

The whole special-ness of the Inquisitor. The Dalish at least didn't **** up one thing - which was you...but only sort of because they fucked up your face with their EVIL slave tattoos.  Like a petulant child, I will never remove them. Ever. (EDIT: HA GITON...Ninja-ed)

 

Even the companions - Cassandra and Varric are special and wonderful, different than the rest of their kind. Again, we see him slowly but surely warming to them and changing some of his views, but he makes me cranky. Though, in the end, I understand it as a player.  He is so alone. So very alone. 


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Even the companions - Cassandra and Varric are special and wonderful, different than the rest of their kind. Again, we see him slowly but surely warming to them and changing some of his views, but he makes me cranky. Though, in the end, I understand it as a player.  He is so alone. So very alone. 

 

Indeed. He's so frustrating. But I also get it?

 

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Also, I get the feeling that whatever this is that he's planning, it may severely impact all the other races in Thedas, whose fate also isn't his alone to alter as a consequence. The lack of a say of anyone else is what would turn him to a tyrant/dictator, as I suppose he has already been subjected to with the current perception of Fen'harel.

 

Jebus, I hope he doesn't just go and do the same thing again, forcing a huge change because he is convinced his own opinion is correct. You know what they say about people who keep doing the same thing while expecting different results. It would seem to go against what we know of him. Logic, cause and effect, the basic right of each individual to chose their own path. If he is going to force through some huge, global change, well, he'd really be no better than Corypheus. Actually, he's be worse due to having witnessed his downfall in the first place.

 

What thing? Because frankly we don't know what he did the first time around, let alone being in a position to judge its correctness or not...


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Yeah. From the looks of it, Solas woke up from living a life entirely based on Ancient Elven life/society/culture. As far as we can tell and from dialogue, he may not have not had any real interaction with any other species than his own until he awoke. He does seem to have gleaned snippets of life through the Fade in his death-sleep, but as we all know, the Fade is a skewed reflection, not just of individual moments but also the myriad of feelings behind each of them. It would be like basing your opinion of a movie through a handful of two second snippets from throughout the film. It's disjointed and certainly not a good reflection.

 

When Solas wakes up, he probably already has some preconceptions which, as people do, they tend to look for things that reinforce their opinions and bias rather than disprove them. I doubt Solas was any different from this. Talking to Varric about that man alone on his island or to Sera about Red Jenny and how the people at the top will always look out for themselves, you see his opinions being challenged, his judgemental views being tossed back in his face. I think, you also can see his shift and the slow course of his realisation that his view isn't always the best one.

 

I think, if I didn't see it, I would very much not be a Solas fan and I think few other would either. It's that we can start to see a change in him and realise the reasons for his opinions, which make us enjoy the character and in some way sympathise. 


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Yes. Totally. Absolutely. Though I wouldn't discount your theory because it helps everyone and not just the elves. I think Solas, as much as he can be given that he's found himself in a future that has a larger diversity than he was probably use to in his own time, is very much for equality. I think if it helped more than just the initial group he had targeted, then he'd be more than happy with this.

 

On diversity... We see it in his monologues, he's looked at actions and behaviours of individuals of all races and has admired and marvelled at them, humans dwarves, qunari... Those are not the musings of someone who is solely interested in his own race. Racists tend to confine themselves to their own groups and not show any interest in others.


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Maybe... though the dialogue exchange with an angered Solas comes to mind here. Rough quote here: "I thought Humans brutish and thugs. And you proved me right. You have no idea what a comfort that is." -Cue dem chills, yo.

 

Interesting he uses the past tense though...



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On diversity... We see it in his monologues, he's looked at actions and behaviours of individuals of all races and has admired and marvelled at them, humans dwarves, qunari... Those are not the musings of someone who is solely interested in his own race. Racists tend to confine themselves to their own groups and not show any interest in others.

 

Solas doesn't strike me as racist.  He strikes me as someone who observes more than he interacts.  He's used to dealing with spirits.  Spirits are uncomplicated.  People are complicated.  It's not a case of him thinking that the ancient elves are better than all the other races.  He's the werid guy who stands on the sidelines at parties.

 

And am I one of the only people who doesn't  have an issue with the way he talks about the Qun?  After not being able to call out Tallis at all during MotA, hearing Solas lay into the Qun was theraputic.


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Interesting he uses the past tense though...

Good point.


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The moral of the story is - if you happen to be what he wants, he'll like you. If you challenge him, make choices he disagrees with, refuse to bend to his philsophy about life, the universe, everything - he shuts you down HARD. And your companions HARD as well if they voice disagreements with him that they refuse to budge on. The answer to everything for Solas is ALWAYS 42. And he'll let his mask slide a quarter of the way for you should you happen to agree.

 

It is possible to challenge him without getting shut down, but it's a fine line to walk between challenging the egghead, and playing into his grim and fatalistic preconceived notions of people.  Solas and my Adaar disagreed during several of Solas's exposition conversations: the one about whether spirits are people comes to mind almost immediately.  And all of those arguments were 1) civil and 2) rather illuminating.  I never got more than a few "slightly disapproves" for arguing with him, and Adaar did that all the f***ing time.  

 

Of course, I also had approval up the wazoo from major world decisions, so that may have contributed to it.  I understand why the world decisions result in approval gain/loss for all the companions, but IMO they should never have been the huge dramatic swings of "greatly approves/disapproves."

 

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Solas doesn't strike me as racist.  He strikes me as someone who observes more than he interacts.  He's used to dealing with spirits.  Spirits are uncomplicated.  People are complicated.  It's not a case of him thinking that the ancient elves are better than all the other races.  He's the werid guy who stands on the sidelines at parties.

 

I don't think he's racist either. Racist would imply he was unaware of his own people's failings- but he's not. He says numerous times that the ancient elves weren't all that great and were 'no better than Tevinter.'

 

He's just an *******. One who is socially awkward and thinks he knows more about people by studying racial histories or dreams than he does individuals. I don't think he's someone that has spent a lot of time really 'getting to know' other people.  


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Oh god, the qunari.  Like, seriously, my Adaar doesn't even like the qunari.  His mom fled the Qun so he wouldn't wind up a saarebas.  And even he thinks Solas is being a tremendous dick about it all.  Solas's racist streak definitely comes out the strongest when playing a qunari Inquisitor.  But it's also possible to gain Solas's respect and friendship even then...I can't decide if that's a good thing or not.  Solas clearly changes his mind about the Inquisitor, but not even a friendly qunari Inquisitor seems to soften his attitude toward the qunari as a people.

I disagree. Solas doesn't have a problem with the qunari as a people in the first place. He has a problem with the Qun. He likes qunari, just fine. Like Iron Bull (if IB goes "tal-vashoth"), the qunari inquisitor, the qunari baker he saw from the fade, etc. And he's got a problem with Qun followers, such as IB if he chooses the Qun over the Chargers, or that elf guy in IB's personal quest. 


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I think this is where the romance/friend path diverge a bit.  Technically he owes the Inquisition nothing at the end. He promised he would stay to help defeat Corypheus and  he did.  Leliana and a friendly Inquisitor are understandably suspicious because he left so suddenly and he was so distraught, but otherwise he owes them nothing and is free to leave. 

 

Regarding a romanced Lavellan:  I agree that he panicked when at the Fire Swamp.  I think it's more nuanced than "I want to protect you" - though I think that's the basics of it. It sounds like whatever he is going to do is bad.  May not just be physically threatening but may require him to make some really ugly decisions.  So he's probably standing there and is like "****, what am I doing. I can't drag her down with me." 

 

@Siha - I agree though. Despite his dayof careful planning on telling Lavellan the truth, I think it was more fantasy than anything. I have a feeling - as we find out what the hell is going on -he had no choice but to leave.    There is something bigger than him going on - I maintain he didn't just wake up, rather someone woke him up.   So as we find out, I think I think Lavellan will be all "This is a **** show, Solas. I do appreciate not being included in this...honestly!"

 

Yeah, definitely. The two paths do diverge there for sure, and it's tricky figuring out motivations behind the break-up with Lavellan knowing that regardless of that relationship's existence, Solas departs. And non-romance Solas came before romance-Solas as far as the story is concerned, so they had to make it work for the romance as well, regardless of his apparent intentions.

 

So really, I suppose it all comes down to interpretation, but I tend to think he simply panicked, entertained carrying on with Lavellan without telling her the truth, realized he couldn't do that then broke it off, and then reasoned it out with a million other good reasons for why breaking it off was the right thing (it will keep her safer, he wouldn't wish this path on his worst enemies, etc.). But I still think the driving factor was a knee-jerk fear, rather than well-thought out reasons beforehand. But! *massive shrug* ;D

 

I'm going to throw in here that Solas' racial bias really shouldn't be discounted. YES, he was for equality. But for who? His own people. To the point that he even reiterates multiple times that he doesn't take the modern elves REGARDLESS of origin (Dalish, city, etc.) to be his own people either. They certainly don't live forever. And they MOST certainly have no similarities culturally - the personalities of the gods they worship, their ability to focus on aesthetics and the greater questions of philosophy, art, the nature of the world, spirits etc. have absolutely nothing in common with modern Dalish culture and religious practice which is practically hunter-gatherer subsistence. 

 

His first discussion with a Lavellan he later considers a relationship with is largely condemning of both her culture and her people. He doesn't give her an equal say in how her people are - he TELLS her how her people are. Gets pretty pissy when she expresses pride and/ or knowledge for what she is. He tells Varric he and his people are like a severed limb from what the once were. Don't get me started on how he feels about the Qunari.

 

He's a full on racist grandpa, yo. But he's OUR racist grandpa with a great accent, a revolutionary past (again, for his people alone) that makes up for his pajama wearing ways in our dreadlocked head canons, and still knows how to make a woman bend at the knees with a kiss. He's just got flaws and misconceptions about the world like literally everyone else. And those flaws are what make him interesting. White washing or minimizing them makes him bland. Like Wonder bread. 

 

I agree: Solas is racist. (Oh, Solas.) EDIT: Maybe this comes on too strong. Solas says some very racist things. Solas is kinda judgmental and discriminating in particular ways. So. Whatever that is. I still love him *shrug*/edit 2nd Edit: Mims has a good point in that he fully recognizes the flaws in his own people and doesn't seem to think them superior. So, perhaps Solas is just quick to judge everyone, rather than specifically racist. I'm not sure anymore. I feel like this is dangerous territory. /2nd edit 

 

But the way he addresses modern elves either as his people or not seem to vary a bit throughout the game--Capricorn posted a comic recently regarding this--so without him being entirely consistent it's hard to say who he actually considers 'his people'. It's clear he approves of helping people regardless of origin, however, so I have no frigging idea what's going to happen with this.

 

In the fire swamp, when Solas says, "The Dalish did one thing right. They made  you," I was like: ERRRRR. I did not read that as some grand romantic gesture. Or cute. I was like, "ONE THING? Fine. Ima keep my vallaslin."  

 

Yeah, I'm with you on that line. I was all, wait, was that supposed to be charming? Ow, Solas.



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Solas doesn't strike me as racist.  He strikes me as someone who observes more than he interacts.  He's used to dealing with spirits.  Spirits are uncomplicated.  People are complicated.  It's not a case of him thinking that the ancient elves are better than all the other races.  He's the werid guy who stands on the sidelines at parties.

 

And am I one of the only people who doesn't  have an issue with the way he talks about the Qun?  After not being able to call out Tallis at all during MotA, hearing Solas lay into the Qun was theraputic.

I don't have an issue of him laying into Bull about the Qun as a philosophy or a government. As a people. Yes.  Bull/Adaar et al are told their entire lives they are brutish and unthinking. This is patently false.  From Tallis and Sten we know the Qun has artists, poets, etc.  Obviously all highly regulated, but to say that free thought or expression still can't grow from that is just ignorant.  He's smarter than that and his biases about the races are beneath him. I say this as Lavellan.  Now as a player - I think they make him an interesting character.

I've said before, I think a lot of this stems from him being so disconnected from the present-day Thedas.  It doesn't make it right. It just makes it understandable. It also makes it easier for him to actually grow. 

 

EDIT: Also Bull is ****** smart enough to play a chess game against him in his head.  Seriously. I couldn't even do connect for.  So...yeah. 


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I disagree. Solas doesn't have a problem with the qunari as a people in the first place. He has a problem with the Qun. He likes qunari, just fine. Like Iron Bull (if IB goes "tal-vashoth"), the qunari inquisitor, the qunari baker he saw from the fade, etc. And he's got a problem with Qun followers, such as IB if he chooses the Qun over the Chargers, or that elf guy in IB's personal quest. 

I disagree, Solas says to a Qun-quisitor: "The quanari are savage creatures, their ferocity held in check only by the rigid teachings of the Qun." Solas has a problem with the race, not  just the Qun.

 

Solas has serious flaws. This is good. It makes him fallible. Let's not ignore these flaws.

 


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I disagree. Solas doesn't have a problem with the qunari as a people in the first place. He has a problem with the Qun. He likes qunari, just fine. Like Iron Bull (if IB goes "tal-vashoth"), the qunari inquisitor, the qunari baker he saw from the fade, etc. And he's got a problem with Qun followers, such as IB if he chooses the Qun over the Chargers, or that elf guy in IB's personal quest. 

 

EDIT:  Giton ninja'd  :ph34r:

 

He's inconsistent about it, and IMO this is again an instance where he has sympathy for individuals, but tends to be prejudiced against groups. Or maybe I just see it that way because I played Adaar who wasn't a huge fan of the Qun either, and doesn't appreciate Solas painting all qunari in broad strokes like that  <_<


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