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[scintilla]

I was being tongue-in-cheek, for the record but this is a good conversation!

 

I've been thinking about this and what PW was saying in the Nerd Appropriate interview yesterday about having a plan for a romance and then finding someone you like more when meeting them. I think that's what's going to happen with Solas. Some people are just looking at him and going, "Meh." but when you get to talking with him and getting all conversationally deep, I think there will be tons more appreciation for the guy.

 

Yeah.  Didn't Chris Priestly say that the character everyone would be talking about once they'd played the game was Solas?  It may be that the idea that he can change the way you view the world isn't something that strikes a lot of people until they're actually having the conversations.

 

He's bald. He's not hot because he's bald. Clearly you can't learn from, interact with, or like characters you don't find "bangable."

 

Never mind we don't even know the characters all that well yet. Even Varric is likely different from the suave storyteller attitude of DA2. I may have initial preferences from the information we do have about the characters, but I know better to wait and meet them in game before passing any sort of judgement. Besides, even if I don't actually like a character it doesn't mean the character is bad or uninteresting. It means they were written in such a way that they have drawn a feeling or emotion from me, negative or otherwise. And that is precisely how it should be.

 

Yyyyeah.  I try not to let the "judged on looks alone" thing bother me but sometimes it gets really frustrating.

 

Very much agreed on not liking a character not meaning that you can't find them interesting.  I can see people who don't like mages not showing interest immediately.  Or maybe they won't at all but the fact that this character might change the way you view Thedas, even a little, just seems like it should be something more people are talking about to me?

 

I guess the bald thing is really hurting him here. 

[Dr. Doctor]

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I have never seen that banter. Maybe because I played a sarcastic Hawke?
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I had the wrong DLC it was Legacy:

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Merrill: I have to say, this is a nice break from the templars giving me the hairy eyeball all the time.

Hawke Carver...

(If Hawke is in a romance with Merrill and Carver is a templar)

Carver: Don't you worry, it wasn't and won't be me. Have your fun.

[ParagonPunk]

 

And on the whole buying games in stores, I've usually been pretty lucky. The GAME store I go to is filled with pretty cool people, who actually do notice that its completely normal for girls to game Is this a thing that maybe is just more common over here, in the UK? Or have I just been lucky?

 

That said, that doesn't mean the other customers get it. I remember going in once, all prettified from just having had a free makeup session in a store, walked in with my mum, and gone, yup, this is the game I'm here for, picking up Dante's Inferno, and seeing a few teenage boys with their faces like WTF? But that was more of a funny experience than a horrible one still.

 

I have had similar experiences, no one actually said anything to me, but I walk about the store like.

 

 

"I know, I'm awesome."

 

Edit: That was a bit tongue in cheek.

[Felya87]

I love Isabela, you don't, and that's fine. Different strokes for different folks. I mean I'm not that interested in IB at the moment, but that could change after I actually play the game.

 

Maybe when I play the game I won't like Solas, Cass or Cole. Though I severely doubt that, it still could happen, but I will try to reserve judgement as best I can. Which is poorly, apparently.

 

it's all about tastes. I always give the benefit of the doubt. I wasn't interested in Isabela before playng DA2, but I was willing to know the character. I ended up not liking her one bit.

I wasn't sure about Fenris too, before playng. I liked him in game.

I was sure I would have liked Anders (I loved him in Awakening) instead I didn't liked him in DA2.

 

For now, Solas, IB, and Dorian are very interesting to me. I'm not very exited for Blackwall and Cullen, but I'll reserve my judgemant for when I've played the game.

[Nefla]

Ughhh that sounds horrible I'm sorry. I used to hate going into places like GameStop when I was a teenager for that same reason. They staring and the invading of personal space and the unsolicited "conversations" (quotations because I don't think one-sided talking AT someone qualifies) and touching? Like wow whoa I'm here for a game not for you. Sad to hear they still haven't figured that out smfh. 

Yeah, I've walked into a gamestop at literally the same moment as a man and his young son (and there were other shoppers already there) and rather than seeing if he needed help or if we both did, the cashier almost ran over to me like a lost puppy and was peppering me with questions and wouldn't leave me alone. Did I need help did I know what I was looking for, etc...even when I said I didn't need help and was just browsing. Then when I picked something and went to the register it was more questions and disbelief. I must have said something that indicated I knew about the game because the guy was like "wait...this is for YOU?!" after which I got the standard "you know you need an xbox 360 to play this right?" "You know you have to pay on online fee right?" etc...all the thing it says on the game cover...If I go in with a male escort (my brother or cousin) they leave me completely alone. I even got the "this is for you?!" at the midnight release of ME3. Let's see, my name (clearly a woman's name) is on the receipt, I'm here ALONE at midnight to get this game...no it must be for my deadbeat husband at home... 

[manabloom]

I don't understand how people aren't interested in Solas at all.  We're going to learn new things about the world from him!  Stuff we were sure was true about the Fade may not be!  You don't want to learn? 

 

I don't know! I mean, of course, to each their own preferences but I for one cannot contain my excitement. I have had a strong, burning hatred for the Chantry from day one, so I never was interested in listening to anything they said, least of all about the Fade which I found completely fascinating. On that note, I can't WAIT to see the Fade in Inquisition. That section in Broken Circle was so TERRIBLE and it could've been so COOL. I really hope they've made it as interesting as it can be now... Like having to earn the aid of a spirit to help you navigate a shifting path, or having to deal with unstable magic...! I always laugh at the idea of my Surana going to cast a fireball and getting a shower of rose petals instead. 

 

I've been thinking about this and what PW was saying in the Nerd Appropriate interview yesterday about having a plan for a romance and then finding someone you like more when meeting them. I think that's what's going to happen with Solas. Some people are just looking at him and going, "Meh." but when you get to talking with him and getting all conversationally deep, I think there will be tons more appreciation for the guy.

 

Ohhh, I can see that happening. It's definitely happened to me before...In fact, all my LIs have been accidental! As in, I never planned on it, not as in ninjamance. I've actually never been ninjamanced... Of course, as I said, I've had my eye on Solas since before he was Solas and he was just ellllllveeeeennnn apppposssstateeeeee (you have to imagine me saying that like "omniiiiiiiiiiii-tooooooooooo!" to get the full effect, heh), but still. I love it when a character surprises you like that.

 

You guys, I have found the most relevant piece of fan art this morning

 

By Blue Box Frog

 

 

SQUEAKS. THAT IS THE BEST. 
it is as precious as it is appropriate uwu [kisses his nose]

[RebbyWriter]

Guys. I'm having a terrible day. I just had to break off a friendship with someone.  I wanted to give them a chance to explain themselves but I realized that I have let them do that...many many times. I can't just be a doormat.

 

With Solas, so pictures I didn't find him attractive and, in others, I find him very attractive. On the bald note, there are attractive men that have no hair. Star Trek The Next Generation gave me a new found appreciation for both bald men and bearded men (why Hello, Number One ) I'm also one of those people who might see someone and not think much of them at first glance but their confidence and the way they treat others just makes me go....Unnf.

 

I'm intrigued by nearly everyone in their own different way. That's why I love Bioware games; you don't have to like 100% of someone to fall in love with them or want them to be your eternal bro.

[scintilla]

Guys. I'm having a terrible day. I just had to break off a friendship with someone.  I wanted to give them a chance to explain themselves but I realized that I have let them do that...many many times. I can't just be a doormat.

 

With Solas, so pictures I didn't find him attractive and, in others, I find him very attractive. On the bald note, there are attractive men that have no hair. Star Trek The Next Generation gave me a new found appreciation for both bald men and bearded men (why Hello, Number One ) I'm also one of those people who might see someone and not think much of them at first glance but their confidence and the way they treat others just makes me go....Unnf.

 

I'm intrigued by nearly everyone in their own different way. That's why I love Bioware games; you don't have to like 100% of someone to fall in love with them or want them to be your eternal bro.

 

 

I'm so sorry to hear that.  But you did the right thing for you.  It takes a lot of courage to cut someone toxic out of your life.  I hope the hurt heals quickly.  *hugs*

 

Personal taste is a big factor, of course.  I never meant to imply it wasn't and I'm sorry if it came off that way.  And yeah, I think Solas is attractive too; bald does not put me off at all.  His personality sounds very attractive right now though, which is usually most important to me.

 

BioWare creates wonderfully flawed characters, yes.  It's definitely one of their strengths.

[Cezelle]

Guys. I'm having a terrible day. I just had to break off a friendship with someone.  I wanted to give them a chance to explain themselves but I realized that I have let them do that...many many times. I can't just be a doormat.

 

With Solas, so pictures I didn't find him attractive and, in others, I find him very attractive. On the bald note, there are attractive men that have no hair. Star Trek The Next Generation gave me a new found appreciation for both bald men and bearded men (why Hello, Number One ) I'm also one of those people who might see someone and not think much of them at first glance but their confidence and the way they treat others just makes me go....Unnf.

 

I'm intrigued by nearly everyone in their own different way. That's why I love Bioware games; you don't have to like 100% of someone to fall in love with them or want them to be your eternal bro.

 

This so much, I love that, it makes it all the more realistic and makes me so much more attached to a character when they're not perfect and have flaws. One of the reasons why I adore Bioware so much too!

And I'm sorry to hear about your friend, it's not easy doing that and like Leviathan said, I applaud your courage for it! *hugs*

[AmuHav]

Guys. I'm having a terrible day. I just had to break off a friendship with someone.  I wanted to give them a chance to explain themselves but I realized that I have let them do that...many many times. I can't just be a doormat.

 

 

I know from experience how hard it can be to let go of a 'friend'. The hardest bit is coming to terms with the fact that the friendship isn't healthy for you, and that as selfish as it may seem to begin with, sometimes it really is important to put your own welfare first, especially if they aren't learning from the many chances you've already given. Unfortunately some people only see 'friendship' as a way to benefit only themselves, rather than as the mutual arrangement it's supposed to be. 

 

I'm glad you had the courage to do it, and I hope things for you get better for it. *virtual hugs*

 

This took a great few too many more revisions than it needed

[Dracarys]

That is so weird that your GameStop isn't physically getting the game in for preorder pick-up. I would riot if mine did that. Like, I'd stand there and stare at them until an exception was made in order for them to get me to leave the store. 

 

And if there's an MP in DA:I, I will totally be there. ME3MP hooked me so hard that after playing it on PS3, I then bought it on PC AND THEN BOUGHT AN XBOX 360 SPECIFICALLY TO PLAY WITH MY FORUM FRIENDS. Yes. I bought an entire gaming system for that (well, and for Titanfall, too). 

 

PS4 will be my primary for DA:I. If there's an MP, the possibility may exist that I acquire it for PC (if the specs don't melt my poor laptop) and maybe XBox 360, too. I refuse to buy an XBox One, though. Buying the 360 was ENOUGH, I can't do another new console again so soon. LOL

 

But yeah, totally add me on PS4 if MP is there. I'll help anyone and everyone along now that I know what the heck I'm doing in the MP world. 

 

Yessssss! *fist pump* Awesome, because I definitely do NOT know what I'm doing in MP. Also, I had to go out to do something, swung into GameStop, and as it turns out, it's only online that I couldn't pre-order the Deluxe Edition for in-store pickup. They needed the $5 down because it's the deluxe, and you can't do that online, yadda yadda. How I've managed to not run into this before, I have no idea, but I put the money down and voila, the problem is solved. SUCCESS! Now I can just go grab it when the store opens that day. Soooo much better.

 

Guys. I'm having a terrible day. I just had to break off a friendship with someone.  I wanted to give them a chance to explain themselves but I realized that I have let them do that...many many times. I can't just be a doormat.

 

With Solas, so pictures I didn't find him attractive and, in others, I find him very attractive. On the bald note, there are attractive men that have no hair. Star Trek The Next Generation gave me a new found appreciation for both bald men and bearded men (why Hello, Number One ) I'm also one of those people who might see someone and not think much of them at first glance but their confidence and the way they treat others just makes me go....Unnf.

 

I'm intrigued by nearly everyone in their own different way. That's why I love Bioware games; you don't have to like 100% of someone to fall in love with them or want them to be your eternal bro.

 

Aw. Sorry to hear that. It sucks to have to do, even if you'll be better off for it in the long run.

 

 

And what you said about being intrigued by everyone in their own way. Even the characters I haven't liked, per se, have drawn a strong reaction from me (except Oghren, for some reason...never cared much about him, remain puzzled about his status as a "fan favorite").  And they can definitely surprise you. I went into DA2 expecting not to like Isabela (fear of her being a one-note sexy pirate, I guess), and I adored her.  I did end up hating Anders, but he's polarizing that way. And I went in expecting to love him. Those surprises, though, are part of what I love about the games. I do wish the DA2 characters had been less extreme. Didn't mind that they had lives outside of me, just got tired of the constant lecturing, moaning, and friction. Since that's a pretty common complaint, I expect that won't be an issue in Inquisition. Plus they've had so much more time to make the game. I've got faith. And I'm SO anxious to meet the characters, because they'll probably all surprise me!

 

*sigh* I paid money and have no game yet. I want my game. Is it November yet?

[RebbyWriter]

OMG, you guys. Thank you so much! I'm totally not crying, I swear! It's just...It's hot and my face is sweating....out of my eyeballs.

 

Yeah. I've had to do this quite a few times over the years to people but it never gets any easier. I had a breakup with an ex the same time I lost my closest friend. I didn't even cry over him but I cried over the death of our friendship. It still hurts, sometimes because I see her at school every now and then.

 

I understand what you guys mean about the constant confrontation in DA2. I mean, I liked how they all didn't agree but the only interaction I liked was Isabella/Aveline because I felt like it changed over time. For the same reason I had to dump this friend is the same reason it was irritating to have to move everyone in only specific parties; because they couldn't just agree to disagree without being bullies about it.

But DA2 wasn't the worst game for me, which I know is an unpopular opinion. Varric was the one I always kept around to lighten the mood.

 

I wonder how party banter with Solas and Varric would be? *strokes chin*

[scintilla]

Okay, so my anxiety demands that I explain myself; having what I say be misunderstood is pretty stressful for me.  I hope everyone understands.  The whole "I don't understand how people aren't interested in Solas" thing was initially a joke.  I thought the smiley indicated that.  Maybe I should have used a different one.

 

I'm not questioning personal preferences nor implying that they can be wrong.  I'm not suggesting people who aren't interested should be.

 

I am saying that what Solas has to say may have implications beyond just his character.  The idea that we may not know as much about the Fade as we thought we did might spark more interest, I guess.  (Maybe the Circle Tower killed everyone's interest in the Fade.  There was a joke going around about the devs going "let's see you skip the Fade now" wasn't there?)

 

I wonder how party banter with Solas and Varric would be? *strokes chin*

 

I wonder how Solas handles being teased in a good natured way?  We'll probably see some of the nails/scotch bonnet candy bits of his personality when it isn't good natured.  But how does this particular introvert handle people like Varric, who mostly don't mean any harm?

[RebbyWriter]

Okay, so my anxiety demands that I explain myself before this turns into a panic attack.  The whole "I don't understand how people aren't interested in Solas" thing was initially a joke.  I thought the smiley indicated that.  Maybe I should have used a different one.

 

I'm not questioning personal preferences nor implying that they can be wrong.  I'm not suggesting people who aren't interested should be.

 

I am saying that what Solas has to say has implications beyond his character.  What he has to say could potentially change how people view the setting of the entire series, even if it's just a tiny bit.  I am a little surprised that that particular aspect of him hasn't raised some interest.

 

 

I wonder how Solas handles being teased in a good-natured way?  We'll probably see some of the nails/scotch bonnet candy bits of his personality when it isn't good natured.  But how does this particular introvert handle people like Varric, who mostly don't mean any harm?

 

 I'm sorry. Did I...Did I say something wrong? I know how the internet can muddle a conversation. One person thinks this someone read what they said wrong and that other person's reply was a jab. Other person never took it that way but questions what they said to upset one person. Then you can get into an odd conversation that was never intended...Y'know, situations like that. I never read that much into what you said. Maybe I just went into a different direction than you intended? If the anxiety is my blame, then I apologize. I'm one of those people whom, if the conversation runs away into a negative tone I'm trying to wave my hands and going, "Hey guys! What about *changes topic*?" Just so we all don't get sucked into a dark place. I'm the one who, when I see a fight coming on, I straight out leave just so I don't get sucked in.

 

 

I can only see Solas with jokes one of two way: One, he laughs along and lets things slide, or two, since he is a lone and private type of guy, he might have trouble understanding a light hearted joke from a mean one and be confused. Of course, everyone has those jokes that, even light-hearted, can be taken personally. I find him the type to only get upset by plain ignorance, more than anything else.

[scintilla]

 I'm sorry. Did I...Did I say something wrong? I know how the internet can muddle a conversation. One person thinks this someone read what they said wrong and that other person's reply was a jab. Other person never took it that way but questions what they said to upset one person. Then you can get into an odd conversation that was never intended...Y'know, situations like that. I never read that much into what you said. Maybe I just went into a different direction than you intended? If the anxiety is my blame, then I apologize. I'm one of those people whom, if the conversation runs away into a negative tone I'm trying to wave my hands and going, "Hey guys! What about *changes topic*?" Just so we all don't get sucked into a dark place. I'm the one who, when I see a fight coming on, I straight out leave just so I don't get sucked in.

 

It wasn't you!  But people did misunderstand and the more time I had to think about that, the more stressful it became for me.  Unfortunately there are limited ways to deal with something that is becoming very stressful like that; I was hoping the explanation would make me feel more at ease but it hasn't.  I'm having chest pains and feel like I'm going to cry over a silly joke that was taken a bit out of context.  Things like this will probably happen less often once I've actually gotten comfortable talking to people here but it takes time.

[RynJ]

It wasn't you!  But people did misunderstand and the more time I had to think about that, the more stressful it became for me.  Unfortunately there are limited ways to deal with something that is becoming very stressful like that; I was hoping the explanation would make me feel more at ease but it hasn't.  I'm having chest pains and feel like I'm going to cry over a silly joke that was taken a bit out of context.  Things like this will probably happen less often once I've actually gotten comfortable talking to people here but it takes time.

 

It's alright, I totally read it as playful. You're all good. And hey, if you're a fan of a character and find them interesting, you often end up questioning how others don't find them interesting. Especially a character as seemingly interesting as Solas!

[Illyria]

 

 

Tbh when I play the Redcliffe mission in DA:O I opt to ignore the circle option, it makes the decision much harder. Some people honestly dislike Alistair for questioning you at the camp afterwords, and I'm like "???" God forbid that a character question the PC, right?

 

I think part of the reason for people being annoyed with this is other than 'saving everyone' Alistair gets annoyed whatever option you take.  Save Conner by sacrifcing Isolde?  He yells at you for turning to blood magic and not trying hard enough.  Kill Conner to destory the demon?  He yells at you for not doing Jowan's ritual.

 

(don't get me wrong, I love Alistair, but that was annoying)

[AnimeLavellan]

I think part of the reason for people being annoyed with this is other than 'saving everyone' Alistair gets annoyed whatever option you take.  Save Conner by sacrifcing Isolde?  He yells at you for turning to blood magic and not trying hard enough.  Kill Conner to destory the demon?  He yells at you for not doing Jowan's ritual.

 

(don't get me wrong, I love Alistair, but that was annoying)

 

 

In that scenario, there was seemingly no right or wrong answer since one would die either way unless you went to the Circle. Alistair was definitely feeling guilty, and even though I also was annoyed at his reaction, it was very realistic. It was a real reaction, and that's why I love Bioware games; they bring a sense of realness into their games that make us feel the same things that the characters feel as they go through it.

[Cezelle]

It wasn't you!  But people did misunderstand and the more time I had to think about that, the more stressful it became for me.  Unfortunately there are limited ways to deal with something that is becoming very stressful like that; I was hoping the explanation would make me feel more at ease but it hasn't.  I'm having chest pains and feel like I'm going to cry over a silly joke that was taken a bit out of context.  Things like this will probably happen less often once I've actually gotten comfortable talking to people here but it takes time.

 

Don't worry about it, people here in the Solas thread are always really understanding and I've rarely come across something here that was taken entirely the wrong way and resulted in something bad (I don't thing anything like that has happened ever actually, we're a bunch of special unicorns here  ) I read it as playful too absolutely, you did nothing wrong at all!

[Uirebhiril]

Okay, so my anxiety demands that I explain myself; having what I say be misunderstood is pretty stressful for me.  I hope everyone understands.  The whole "I don't understand how people aren't interested in Solas" thing was initially a joke.  I thought the smiley indicated that.  Maybe I should have used a different one.

 

 

I understood what you meant, so I hope I didn't add to the confusion. I was agreeing with you with my little rant about bald. I find it hard to understand how anyone can love or hate any particular character without really getting to know them first or seeing them in action. Especially with this particular cast. There's bound to be something for everyone's play style and tastes with any of those guys.

 

Now if you want a real debate, see how many people love/hate Michel de Chevin...

[CARPOOL]

I really hope I still like Solas after starting the game. All the tidbits we know about him at this time make me think I'll like him, but I never know. He could always pull a thing that makes me go 'woah, that's not cool man.' (Like Anders did) But in most cases characters I wasn't as fond of initially I eventually warm up to.

[scintilla]

It's alright, I totally read it as playful. You're all good. And hey, if you're a fan of a character and find them interesting, you often end up questioning how others don't find them interesting. Especially a character as seemingly interesting as Solas!

 

 

Don't worry about it, people here in the Solas thread are always really understanding and I've rarely come across something here that was taken entirely the wrong way and resulted in something bad (I don't thing anything like that has happened ever actually, we're a bunch of special unicorns here  ) I read it as playful too absolutely, you did nothing wrong at all!

 

 

I understood what you meant, so I hope I didn't add to the confusion. I was agreeing with you with my little rant about bald. I find it hard to understand how anyone can love or hate any particular character without really getting to know them first or seeing them in action. Especially with this particular cast. There's bound to be something for everyone's play style and tastes with any of those guys.

 

Now if you want a real debate, see how many people love/hate Michel de Chevin...

 

That is very relieving.  Thank you.

 

The intent was most definitely playful.  I fully understand how personal preferences work, not just for favorite/interesting characters but for the variety of reasons people might play the game.

 

I've never disliked much less hated a BioWare companion character.  I was indifferent to Sebastian but I expect to like the entire crew of DA:I.  There's no way to say for sure that Solas isn't going to go insane or be one of the bad guys but right now he's looking sane and reasonable which would be a nice change of pace.

[Phate Phoenix]

I really hope I still like Solas after starting the game. All the tidbits we know about him at this time make me think I'll like him, but I never know. He could always pull a thing that makes me go 'woah, that's not cool man.' (Like Anders did) But in most cases characters I wasn't as fond initially I eventually warm up to.

 

That's what I'm worried about, too.  I mean, there's nothing about him that says I won't like him, but, well... I haven't met him yet!

[AnimeLavellan]

I've never disliked much less hated a BioWare companion character.  I was indifferent to Sebastian but I expect to like the entire crew of DA:I.  There's no way to say for sure that Solas isn't going to go insane or be one of the bad guys but right now he's looking sane and reasonable which would be a nice change of pace.

 

This statement now makes me wonder what Solas would be like if he did go insane and join the bad guy. I mean, would he be cackling about how whatever it is will destroy the world (complete with an epic monologue of epicness)?

[DragonRacer in Mourning]

Damn, seems everyone here plays ME3MP on Ps3 or PC sad little lonely Xboxer here

 

I have it on XBox, too. Only just got it around April, so I'm still fleshing out the manifest, but I'm goooooooood to go Gold-worthy with what I have managed to unlock so far.