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I dress him greenish brown colors. He is a woodsman or a druidic like character so I stick with that theme. 

 

Earthy colours in the early game, silver and blue late game.  I like the contrast of his hobo battlemage mail with the regal colours.


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Ooh, character alignments. 

 

I would personally put Solas as a lawful neutral. He doesn't mind doing good, but I don't know if doing good is his primary motivation. He seems to want things to be in order, which isn't really a goal of a chaotic good character. But he could easily end up being chaotic good if future revelations paint him more of the revolutionary. 

 

I noticed some people on tumblr were putting him down as a chaotic neutral, which is the only one I'd really disagree with. Chaotic neutrals tend to be more wild cards, reacting in the moment. They usually come off as mad, or unstable. That's definitely not Solas. 


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Apparently there is a global conference on Solas. They even published a book about it. 

 

Check it out.

 

Spoiler

 

:P

 

Yes, I've even had the honour of translating sections of SOLAS...

 

On this subject... Not a translation...

 

http://archiveofouro...g/works/3680355


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Hmmm have any of you guys played Archage recently? I tried it at first but it seemed to be only half translated to English so I left it as a "try later" game. Just wondering if it's improved any since I left.

 

[EDIT: Nevermind, looked at some online customer reviews. Filled full of bots and scammers....*sigh*]

 

I tried this a bit now. I cannot say anything about the long-term run, of course, but so far it's not so bad. I do not know about the MMO/cooperative gameplay, I prefer to play single and this worked out fine so far.

 

A bit of cuteness overload with the baby elk I had to raise (oh god, that was cute). And now that my elf is all grown up I feel a strong bond, obviously.

It only has the classic RPG elements (skill tree etc.), no decisions (so far) and no player-influenced conversations. Crafting seems to be extensive. Combat looks very smooth (of course it plays like any other game of this sort, but it just looks flashy), graphics are pretty.

 

It's not voiced much, so while the merchants still speak Japanese that does not matter at all (it's just the standard "Come again soon", "Thanks for your purchase" stuff). The important bits are in English.

 

It's free to play so just try it out?



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Ok, not really related to Solas except he's in my group at the moment.

 

Under spoilers b/c it's during the DLC

 

What the ....

 

 

 



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Ooh, character alignments. 

 

I would personally put Solas as a lawful neutral. He doesn't mind doing good, but I don't know if doing good is his primary motivation. He seems to want things to be in order, which isn't really a goal of a chaotic good character. But he could easily end up being chaotic good if future revelations paint him more of the revolutionary. 

 

I noticed some people on tumblr were putting him down as a chaotic neutral, which is the only one I'd really disagree with. Chaotic neutrals tend to be more wild cards, reacting in the moment. They usually come off as mad, or unstable. That's definitely not Solas. 

 

Pretty much agreeing with the Lawful Neutral alignment. It's important to note that a Lawful person is not equal to someone who follows the law. It relates to a person having a strong code of personal honor, which may or may not coincide with existing laws in a society. Solas definitely has a personal code that he follows, and I think almost changes alignment to Neutral when he takes Lavellan to the fire swamp and (apparently) intends to abandon his cause either in full, or cut off an important enough piece that motivates him now. But, he doesn't. He can't break that part of himself, which is why he doesn't go through with telling her the truth. Abandoning or changing their morals/codes of honor is such a sticking point with Lawful characters.

 

I think I'm going to agree on the neutral alignment as well. A Good character in D&D actively tries to commit acts of altruism or go out of their way to do good deeds. A Neutral person (which represents the majority of the common people), may do good works or act in a non-selfish manner, they don't try to actively go out of their way to take that path. Solas approves of helping the refugees or freeing wolves from the influence of demons, but he also doesn't try to pressure the Inquisitor to do those things/take it upon himself to help everyone in need.

 

He has a goal. He's working towards that goal. If he helps people along the way, great! If not, then it doesn't really bother him because it doesn't matter in the long run, or in relation to a means of completing whatever his goals are.


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I think it's a good time as any for some Solas lips.

 

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He really does have nice lips :3  Its weird how I didn't think he was attractive at all until I started playing the game.  I guess you have to see him in action lol


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I was considering LN because of how he seems as a person, but leaned more toward TN if not Chaotic (again, I really don't actually know enough of anything he's done or will do to really have a strong opinion...) just because while I think he has a pretty ordered mind and way the world should be (I could get like a monkish vibe for example), I don't really get a lot of impression that he necessarily acts on the world that way. Trickery and deception seems to be the way of it (which is not necessarily chaotic! It could just be being smarter than everyone), and he seems to reject all of the attempts of organizations forming to decide for other people. Not all CN people are random unrestrained crazies. But maybe his restraint is so tight that it defines all the rest (though he doesn't seem to be good at it, if so, hehe).

 

Maybe not. I'm just not really sure how often or how far he'd go in repudiation of ... whatever. I get a lot of personality vibes but I don't really know anything about him except maybe how he wishes the world was. Just not enough for me to think too hard or have a solid opinion about...



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Ooh, character alignments. 

 

I would personally put Solas as a lawful neutral. He doesn't mind doing good, but I don't know if doing good is his primary motivation. He seems to want things to be in order, which isn't really a goal of a chaotic good character. But he could easily end up being chaotic good if future revelations paint him more of the revolutionary. 

 

I noticed some people on tumblr were putting him down as a chaotic neutral, which is the only one I'd really disagree with. Chaotic neutrals tend to be more wild cards, reacting in the moment. They usually come off as mad, or unstable. That's definitely not Solas. 

 

What about Chaotic Good ? They believe that freedom and goodness is the best way to go. Chaotic Good is also known as The Rebels. Fen'Harel is the God of Rebellion. 


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What about Chaotic Good ? They believe that freedom and goodness is the best way to go. Chaotic Good is also known as The Rebels. Fen'Harel is the God of Rebellion. 

 

I really think he's an "ends justifies the means" kind of guy...


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My desktop wallpapers are set to cycle through my DAI screenshots, and it got to the Haven Fade scene and I realised something.  This has probably been covered in previous pages and if if has, I apologise.

 

Is there a way to change Solas's armour for the scene? I always found it weird that Lavellan was in her relaxed Skyhold pjs and yet Solas seems to rock the battlemage set I picked for him. Normally I wouldn't mind, but the clipping...*disgusted noise*



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My desktop wallpapers are set to cycle through my DAI screenshots, and it got to the Haven Fade scene and I realised something.  This has probably been covered in previous pages and if if has, I apologise.

 

Is there a way to change Solas's armour for the scene? I always found it weird that Lavellan was in her relaxed Skyhold pjs and yet Solas seems to rock the battlemage set I picked for him. Normally I wouldn't mind, but the clipping...*disgusted noise*

 

Negative. It's probably best for immersion if you manually remove Solas' armor before you talk to him in the rotunda so that he's "wearing" his own Skyhold outfit.


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Negative. It's probably best for immersion if you manually remove Solas' armor before you talk to him in the rotunda so that he's "wearing" his own Skyhold outfit.

Never thought of that!  Thanks for the tip :D



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Pretty much agreeing with the Lawful Neutral alignment. It's important to note that a Lawful person is not equal to someone who follows the law. It relates to a person having a strong code of personal honor, which may or may not coincide with existing laws in a society. Solas definitely has a personal code that he follows, and I think almost changes alignment to Neutral when he takes Lavellan to the fire swamp and (apparently) intends to abandon his cause either in full, or cut off an important enough piece that motivates him now. But, he doesn't. He can't break that part of himself, which is why he doesn't go through with telling her the truth. Abandoning or changing their morals/codes of honor is such a sticking point with Lawful characters.

 

I think I'm going to agree on the neutral alignment as well. A Good character in D&D actively tries to commit acts of altruism or go out of their way to do good deeds. A Neutral person (which represents the majority of the common people), may do good works or act in a non-selfish manner, they don't try to actively go out of their way to take that path. Solas approves of helping the refugees or freeing wolves from the influence of demons, but he also doesn't try to pressure the Inquisitor to do those things/take it upon himself to help everyone in need.

 

He has a goal. He's working towards that goal. If he helps people along the way, great! If not, then it doesn't really bother him because it doesn't matter in the long run, or in relation to a means of completing whatever his goals are.

 

Completely agree with this write up! Really summed up everything well. 

 

What about Chaotic Good ? They believe that freedom and goodness is the best way to go. Chaotic Good is also known as The Rebels. Fen'Harel is the God of Rebellion. 

 

Solas could be chaotic good. But from what we see ingame, I'd go more for lawful neutral for the same reasons that electricfish says. Simply being a rebel doesn't make one chaotic good. You can still be a good person and be a 'neutral' classed character. You can still want to tear down the current 'law' and be a lawful character. 

 

Chaotics tend to be much more emotionally driven than rule driven. Someone who is chaotic neutral tends to be a character that has no allegiances, choosing sides whenever it suits their fancy. Chaotic good will make hard sacrifices if they must, but ultimately they are focused on doing good in the world. 

 

Solas is not opposed to doing good, but given the mistakes he's made... I don't think doing good is his driving goal. He wants to set things 'right', whether that right is the freedom for other people, or making up for his errors. 

 

But we don't exactly have a clear picture of him yet. A lot of things could change given a DLC. He could very easily fall to being chaotic good or even lawful evil. 


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On topic: What is everyone's favorite color on Solas? Mine is the silk brocade blue. I love how it deepens and accents his eyes. 

 

My favorite's also the silk brocade.  Blue and white.  I wanted to tint a red and black outfit, for his Tower tarot, but most of the reds look way too orange-y to me.  Maybe I'm just missing it, but I wish there was a softer gold and green combo like the outfit in his Heirophant card.  Most of the cloth colors are pretty saturated.


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My desktop wallpapers are set to cycle through my DAI screenshots, and it got to the Haven Fade scene and I realised something.  This has probably been covered in previous pages and if if has, I apologise.

 

Is there a way to change Solas's armour for the scene? I always found it weird that Lavellan was in her relaxed Skyhold pjs and yet Solas seems to rock the battlemage set I picked for him. Normally I wouldn't mind, but the clipping...*disgusted noise*

 

Yes, but it's a little odd.  Save, play the scene, then reload and play the scene again.  I've tested it a few times and Solas always wears his Skyhold outfit the second time.


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Yes, but it's a little odd.  Save, play the scene, then reload and play the scene again.  I've tested it a few times and Solas always wears his Skyhold outfit the second time.

 

Huh.  That's interesting.

 

IMO it's just too hilarious having him in the yellow plaidweave for that Fade kiss.  It doesn't kill the scene or anything, but I like the idea that he's so startled by Lavellan finding him in the Fade that he doesn't even have the werewithal to change into something less dorky  :lol:


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Huh.  That's interesting.

 

IMO it's just too hilarious having him in the yellow plaidweave for that Fade kiss.  It doesn't kill the scene or anything, but I like the idea that he's so startled by Lavellan finding him in the Fade that he doesn't even have the werewithal to change into something less dorky  :lol:

 

The first time I ever played DAI I had him in plaidweave for that kiss.  The best part is: they were both dreaming when they were talking in the first place.  This means that his fashion sense while he sleeps is utterly dorky.

 

(I also gave Dorian a plaidweave outfit on my first playthrough.  The emotional impact of his personal quest was almost ruined by what I can only describe as the 'plaidweave caveman' outfit.)


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(I also gave Dorian a plaidweave outfit on my first playthrough.  The emotional impact of his personal quest was almost ruined by what I can only describe as the 'plaidweave caveman' outfit.)

 

Solas wound up wearing all the plaidweave outfits in my first playthrough because I figured he wouldn't mind since he's a dork.  I felt bad inflicting plaid on Vivienne or Dorian.  I could just imagine the "Greatly Disapproves" pop-up.

 

And in my second playthrough with Adaar, Solas still gets the plaid.  Because punishment plaid.

 

EDIT: Really?  OK.  Punishment plaid coming right up!

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Can anyone find the source for this?  I'm bad at tumblr.


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Ahh... I can see we were definitely drawing from different sources/opinions on what any might entail (emotion vs rules especially), so I probably should have felt that out before I thought about one :P I'd offer a different argument against CN, though, relating to valuing one's own individualism/liberty without looking out for everyone else's... plus in some places (especially where intent is important), CN is actively, consciously pro-chaos, or breaks a rule whenever able, not just say, ignoring them. So yeah, there are a lot of versions of it that I wouldn't agree with, either, even if I'm not usually in the places that lay it out like that.

 

On the other hand, the large ethical jump from CG to LN in order to be either/or has never made a lot of sense to me, and I guess I've mostly played in worlds that consider a less-altruistic good-hearted rebel to naturally fall down toward neutral, rather than all the way across the chart to Lawful. CG and CN are only an ethical shift apart, which is what I was originally thinking about :)

 

I think the "personal code" aspect of Lawful has been stretched to cover weird things at times, but in his case I'd agree about it definitely fitting better than random/unstable interpretations of CN.

 

 

but I like the idea that he's so startled by Lavellan finding him in the Fade that he doesn't even have the werewithal to change into something less dorky  :lol:

 

I like that this implies he wears plaidweave for fadewalks when he could literally be in anything else.


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Solas wound up wearing all the plaidweave outfits in my first playthrough because I figured he wouldn't mind since he's a dork.  I felt bad inflicting plaid on Vivienne or Dorian.  I could just imagine the "Greatly Disapproves" pop-up.

 

And in my second playthrough with Adaar, Solas still gets the plaid.  Because punishment plaid.

 

Dorian was the hardest character to find an outfit for.  He generally looked best in silk but the stats for that are terrible.  Thanks to the tinting he now actually looks good in my game (battlemage armour retinted with silk).  Viv looks good in anything, including plaidweave.  Sera gets plaidweave because I get the feeling she'd actually like wearing it.



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I like that this implies he wears plaidweave for fadewalks when he could literally be in anything else.

 

Solas: I'm so glad you could join me in the Fade, Vhenan.

 

Lavellan: Seriously?  That's what you're wearing?

 

Solas: What's wrong with what I'm wearing?

 

Lavellan:  Suddenly your Halamshiral hat choice makes far more sense...

 

Solas: What was wrong with my hat?  *fade!magic adds hat to plaidweave outfit*


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I like that this implies he wears plaidweave for fadewalks when he could literally be in anything else.

 

I know, it's amazing.  Solas: Dread Wolf, smooth operator, complicated badass...and plaid dork.  Love that elf  :wub:


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My favorite's also the silk brocade.  Blue and white.  I wanted to tint a red and black outfit, for his Tower tarot, but most of the reds look way too orange-y to me.  Maybe I'm just missing it, but I wish there was a softer gold and green combo like the outfit in his Heirophant card.  Most of the cloth colors are pretty saturated.


That's actually a complaint of mine. There's no red-red. It's either orange-red or more border pink. The reddest I find is Highever weave, but even that is orange-y. I'm sadder than I ought to be over the lack of a genuine red.
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So few people actually like his hat, ha! Not the weirdness of the model, but I really appreciated him showing up in the style of the rebels in the Anderfels, especially if they also resisted the Orlesians, later. In that light it was a very funny (to me) wink at essentially everyone in the palace. Like his necklace, kind of. "Why does he wear that disgusting old thing?" "Hehe."


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