There aren't many, that's for sure. Endings are difficult.
Planetscape:Torment has a brilliant ending. The original Matrix has a great ending. The Fountainhead has a great ending. Shawshank Redemption has a good ending. The extended edition of the Abyss has a good ending.
That's five examples right there.
There are plenty of arcs in larger series and RPGS that have great endings, including arcs in BioWare games. Although certainly not Inquisition.
The Fountainhead has a great ending.
Ummm, personally I prefer the endings of 1984 or Animal Farm or Crime and Punishment... but hey...
Ummm, personally I prefer the endings of 1984 or Animal Farm or Crime and Punishment... but hey...
Huh?
Eh...
I thought it was pretty obvious.Huh?
Dissenting vote.
Fair. Personally, I'm not really fussed with however Bioware choose to play Past!Solas. I just find it amusing that, seemingly without consulting one another, almost everyone has arrived at the same conclusion.
Fair. Personally, I'm not really fussed with however Bioware choose to play Past!Solas. I just find it amusing that, seemingly without consulting one another, almost everyone has arrived at the same conclusion.
It's kind of like how everyone in the fandom has unanimously accepted that Abelas has a long white braid underneath that hood, which is a whole other thing entirely, but ultimately...
It's kind of like how everyone in the fandom has unanimously accepted that Abelas has a long white braid underneath that hood, which is a whole other thing entirely, but ultimately...
I was honestly so confused about where that came from, but everyone does it and I'm just there like
???
It's kind of like how everyone in the fandom has unanimously accepted that Abelas has a long white braid underneath that hood, which is a whole other thing entirely, but ultimately...
Personally I think his head looks like a prune. A prune that was in the bath too long. It's why he wears the hood all the time.
#canon
I have to say that Torment was one of my all time favourite games and the ending just blew me away. However, I have returned to the Solas support forum after a prolonged absence to query something from my latest play through. Apologies if this has been discussed previously but 3,700 pages is a lot to wade through.
As usual I spoke with Solas after the Temple of Mythal, he asked me about what I was going to do with the knowledge of the Well but this time I opted for the answer "One thing at a time." Now I hadn't drunk from the well and it always seemed to me that planning on what I would do with it seemed a bit pointless since Morrigan had control over that knowledge and she had just told me that she was leaving after we had defeated Corypheus. Plus of course I would have thought that Mythal might have a hand in what we did with it. So in a way, the answer I gave seemed an appropriate response.
I was rather surprised, therefore, to get a "Solas disapproves" in response. Surely not counting one's chickens until Cory is dead would seem a wise course? I assume he was miffed because I wasn't sharing my thoughts with him. Then the speech that followed puzzled me even more. He said that I would be called upon to decide whether the Chantry continued or not. Now it has been a complaint of the anti-Chantry lobby that is something we are specifically are not able to do. We can make decision that steer who becomes next Divine, we can vote for someone or not and your approval rating with her will determine how successful her reign will be, but so far as I am aware you can never actually declare "no more Chantry". I was also puzzled why this had anything to do with the Well.
Then thinking it over I realised that the Well is a repository of knowledge that has been recorded since the time of the elven gods. Whilst it has been said by DG that the Maker will never be proven to exist or not (and he is of course no longer lead writer) destroying belief in the Chantry does not equate to destroying belief in the Maker. We already know that the version of the Chant spread by the Chantry is not necessarily the full account of what Andraste taught or even her disciples recorded. Bits have been removed from political expediency (the Exalted March on the Dales) and contradictory passages have been declared dissonant, in particular the conflicting versus concerning the old gods, that have been attributed to Hesarian and not Andraste. However, if anyone knows the truth of the matter it is likely to be Tevinter; they did come up with an alternative view of Andraste and also scavenged the remains of Arlathan.
Next game is anticipated to take place in the north. Is part of what Solas has planned to reveal the truth about the old gods and Andraste and to bring about the end of the Chantry? Could that be why he gave his orb to Corypheus?
I was honestly so confused about where that came from, but everyone does it and I'm just there like
???
I'm guessing it started with this beautiful fanart of him by artemorte.
At least that's the first time where I saw Abelas depicted that way, and I'm guessing everyone else fell in love with the design and accepted that that's the way he looked without the hood. 
I have to say that Torment was one of my all time favourite games and the ending just blew me away.
Yep. It sure would be nice to see that sort of brilliance from BioWare in an overarching plot, but that seems less likely than ever if Inquisition is any indication of the direction they're heading.
I'm guessing it started with this beautiful fanart of him by artemorte.
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At least that's the first time where I saw Abelas depicted that way, and I'm guessing everyone else fell in love with the design and accepted that that's the way he looked without the hood.
Well, seeing those I can understand why it immediately became everyones accepted canon. They're gorgeous. That's a bandwagon I want to be on.
Well, seeing those I can understand why it immediately became everyones accepted canon. They're gorgeous. That's a bandwagon I want to be on.
Join me on the prune train!
#makeprunecanon2015
Join me on the prune train!
#makeprunecanon2015
Prune train needs more fan art. Someone needs to make this happen.
As usual I spoke with Solas after the Temple of Mythal, he asked me about what I was going to do with the knowledge of the Well but this time I opted for the answer "One thing at a time." ...
I was rather surprised, therefore, to get a "Solas disapproves" in response. Surely not counting one's chickens until Cory is dead would seem a wise course?
My opinion is that Solas is a planer. Many people here disagree with me on that however.
So, I believe he thinks far ahead, assuming different possible outcomes and deciding on a course of action based on his assessment. Which is why he leaves Lavellan even before the final battle. If he was more spontaneous he could stay, make a decision only when everything is settled. But he does not, he plans ahead, judges the situation, and decides to leave Lavellan long before he is actually "forced" to do so. Based on this notion it makes sense that he does not like to hear somebody say "uh, time will well". He wants to see that you have thought it all through, know exactly how to react in any given future situation.
Now, of course plan and execution are not always the same, this is not what it is about. Sometimes you plan and things go wrong or you change your mind. But the difference is if you are willing to commit (plan) or if you try to keep things open for as long as possible (spontaneity). Solas seems the former to me. And so he might think you reckless if you admit not to have a plan.
Then the speech that followed puzzled me even more. He said that I would be called upon to decide whether the Chantry continued or not. Now it has been a complaint of the anti-Chantry lobby that is something we are specifically are not able to do. We can make decision that steer who becomes next Divine, we can vote for someone or not and your approval rating with her will determine how successful her reign will be, but so far as I am aware you can never actually declare "no more Chantry". I was also puzzled why this had anything to do with the Well.
I must admit I am not sure what the dialogue was like. From what you say, maybe it was just a flaw in writing. OR Solas thinks ahead (i.e. no explicit divestiture but picking a Divine whose reign will lead to one in the longer run).
In general, everything is related to the well, which is nothing but "universal knowledge". And I think they meant to remind us that the Chantry is at the heart of all issues, which is not wrong because it is the dominating religion in most of Thedas, thus having immense power.
Then thinking it over I realised that the Well is a repository of knowledge that has been recorded since the time of the elven gods. Whilst it has been said by DG that the Maker will never be proven to exist or not (and he is of course no longer lead writer) destroying belief in the Chantry does not equate to destroying belief in the Maker.
I agree.
Next game is anticipated to take place in the north. Is part of what Solas has planned to reveal the truth about the old gods and Andraste and to bring about the end of the Chantry? Could that be why he gave his orb to Corypheus?
I don't know. I don't even try to assume his plans or future actions. Your thesis is as likely to me as any other. 
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Personally I think his head looks like a prune. A prune that was in the bath too long. It's why he wears the hood all the time.
#canon
And Solas looks like a speckled egg with a weird thing in his chin. Each to their own.
And Solas looks like a speckled egg with a weird thing in his chin. Each to their own.
Hey, don't. What happened in the Abelas thread was not nice, but please don't bring a personal issue here and attack people who did not even have anything to do with it. Illyria just made a joke.
Hey, don't. What happened in the Abelas thread was not nice, but please don't bring a personal issue here and attack people who did not even have anything to do with it. Illyria just made a joke.
I feel like I missed something.
If I offended then I'm sorry 
Beautiful.
Someone needs to mod this into the game.
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Hey, don't. What happened in the Abelas thread was not nice, but please don't bring a personal issue here and attack people who did not even have anything to do with it. Illyria just made a joke.
As I was recently reminded it is an open forum. I wasn't attacking any one. It is a personal opinion since we are sharing them. I agree, what happened in the Abelas thread wasn't nice but it is very one-sided because both sides were not taken into account. Saying Solas reminds me of a speckled egg is directed purely at Solas and an opinion.
I'm guessing it started with this beautiful fanart of him by artemorte.
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At least that's the first time where I saw Abelas depicted that way, and I'm guessing everyone else fell in love with the design and accepted that that's the way he looked without the hood.
No matter how many times I see this, I always stare at it for way too long. *dreamy sigh*
As I was recently reminded it is an open forum. I wasn't attacking any one. It is a personal opinion since we are sharing them. I agree, what happened in the Abelas thread wasn't nice but it is very one-sided because both sides were not taken into account. Saying Solas reminds me of a speckled egg is directed purely at Solas and an opinion.
I feel like I missed something.
If I offended then I'm sorry
Never feel sorry for someone else's butthurt. You'll enjoy life more.
As for Solas' being a planner, it depends on what you consider planning. People make plans for life all the time, but generally a "planner" is more punctual. They're planners because they make plans and do them, whereas Solas by his own word lays around thinking about things he needs to do, how he'll do them, etc, but spends too much time doing this, and not enough time taking action.
One could say someone like that's a planner, but for me that's not quite the same. But, I wouldn't say somebody was "wrong" for calling him a planner either. Just depends on your definition.
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Never feel sorry for someone else's butthurt. You'll enjoy life more.
As for Solas' being a planner, it depends on what you consider planning. People make plans for life all the time, but generally a "planner" is more punctual. They're planners because they make plans and do them, whereas Solas by his own word lays around thinking about things he needs to do, how he'll do them, etc, but spends too much time doing this, and not enough time taking action.
One could say someone like that's a planner, but for me that's not quite the same. But, I wouldn't say somebody was "wrong" for calling him a planner either. Just depends on your definition.
Colonel to the rescue then? Trust me, I'm not apologizing for yours.
As for Solas, he is a wonderfully written character. It's too bad you can't express opinions about him without the fandom jumping down your throat for not being a sheep.
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