I still haven't picked my canon for Here Lies the Abyss. I love my canon Hawke, and the fact that she's in a friendly romance with Fenris makes the choice very difficult.
And Alistair vanishes if he goes to the Anderfields, so reguardless of what option is picked my Surana isn't seeing her lover any time soon.
Hawke also vanishes does s/he not? And don't be so negative! He is obviously getting Griffon flying lessons. 
While I was always happy with the way the Alistair romance ended (one of my Wardens died after making him king, one of them stayed with him as a Warden (used to be the mistress ending before I realised that the Warden choice made more sense for her) and one made him king, allowed Loghain to become a Warden). Three/four very different ending with varying amounts of happiness. The problem comes from DAI where it turns out that only a Cousland Warden has a chance to be happy with him (and possibly the mistress ending, too). If you made him a Warden and kept the romance going then you're screwed in the non-fun way.
Do you mean the choice between leaving Warden Alistair or Hawke in the Fade? Or is it the whole going to Weisshaupt and having his fate unknown? If it's the Fade thing, I chose to leave Hawke. Not even a hard choice.
Now the Weisshaupt thing, that one we'll have to wait and see. I'm not writing him off as dead just yet. Here's hoping Alistair is still alive and well. 
Hawke also vanishes does s/he not?
Yeah, she does. So far all three of my canon mages are unlucky in love.
Surana: Boyfriend vanishes.
Hawke: Dies
Lavellan: Solas dumps her and runs off to do Creators know what.
*EDIT*
If Hawke/Alistair don't come back on a griffon (while wearing shades) then pre-order cancelled.
Yeah, she does. So far all three of my canon mages are unlucky in love.
Surana: Boyfriend vanishes.
Hawke: Dies
Lavellan: Solas dumps her and runs off to do Creators know what.
That makes me think that whoever goes to the Anderfells will be fine, they will probably take part in a dlc or future game. 
If Loghain dies after all the rubbish I've gone through to keep him alive, Bioware are getting a strongly worded letter. 
That makes me think that whoever goes to the Anderfells will be fine, tehy will probably take part in a dlc or future game.
If Loghain dies after all the rubbish I've gone through to keep him alive, Bioware are getting a strongly worded letter.
I hope he lives. One of my worldstates has him as a Warden and I'm planning on sacrificing Hawke in that one. He needs to be around to show those Orlasians (and Anders (the people, not the mage) and everyone else) how we do things in Ferelden.
If Hawke/Alistair don't come back on a griffon (while wearing shades) then pre-order cancelled.
I am suddenly realising that I have never given any thought to what happens to the FadeSurvivor after they go to Weisshaupt. I've just never thought about the implications of Weisshaupt going dark.
Oh my god, what's going to happen to Anders? Why do I care so much about this?
I'm just going to assume they swoop back in on a Griffon and save the day (while wearing shades, as you say).
That makes me think that whoever goes to the Anderfells will be fine, tehy will probably take part in a dlc or future game.
If Loghain dies after all the rubbish I've gone through to keep him alive, Bioware are getting a strongly worded letter.
They'll keep them alive only to dramatically kill them in some way in the DLC.
I hope your strongly worded letter will include stick figure pictures, "Moondrummer and his BFF Loghain". You're a wonderful artiste!!
I am suddenly realising that I have never given any thought to what happens to the FadeSurvivor after they go to Weisshaupt. I've just never thought about the implications of Weisshaupt going dark.
Oh my god, what's going to happen to Anders? Why do I care so much about this?
I'm just going to assume they swoop back in on a Griffon and save the day (while wearing shades, as you say).
But haven't you heard? Swooping is bad.
Unless it's Alistair swooping in on a griffon while wearing shades and saving the day.
But haven't you heard? Swooping is bad.
Unless it's Alistair swooping in on a griffon while wearing shades and saving the day.
It'll be so fitting. He'll finally get over his fear of swooping. Character development!
I am suddenly realising that I have never given any thought to what happens to the FadeSurvivor after they go to Weisshaupt. I've just never thought about the implications of Weisshaupt going dark.
Oh my god, what's going to happen to Anders? Why do I care so much about this?
I'm just going to assume they swoop back in on a Griffon and save the day (while wearing shades, as you say).
Ok, so Anders dies in my canon DA2 PT, but like - I am actually kind of concerned. Are there mental health facilities in Thedas???? What will he do. He needs public assistance. Like....I think killing him was incredibly merciful because if something happens to Hawke he's so lost.
Ok, so Anders dies in my canon DA2 PT, but like - I am actually kind of concerned. Are there mental health facilities in Thedas???? What will he do. He needs public assistance. Like....I think killing him was incredibly merciful because if something happens to Hawke he's so lost.
This is my thinking exactly. Like, how many more people is a bro gonna kill without Hawke there to stop him?
While I was always happy with the way the Alistair romance ended (one of my Wardens died after making him king, one of them stayed with him as a Warden (used to be the mistress ending before I realised that the Warden choice made more sense for her) and one made him king, allowed Loghain to become a Warden). Three/four very different ending with varying amounts of happiness. The problem comes from DAI where it turns out that only a Cousland Warden has a chance to be happy with him (and possibly the mistress ending, too). If you made him a Warden and kept the romance going then you're screwed in the non-fun way.
I don't know about the mistress ending ... I put my warden as Alistair's mistress and he never even mentioned her in Inquisition
Ok, so Anders dies in my canon DA2 PT, but like - I am actually kind of concerned. Are there mental health facilities in Thedas???? What will he do. He needs public assistance. Like....I think killing him was incredibly merciful because if something happens to Hawke he's so lost.
Varric can send Bartrand to a sanatorium, but there's clearly nothing actually in place to help those with mental health issues (see: the elf murdering son of the magistrate who got no help whatsoever.)
I don't know about the mistress ending ... I put my warden as Alistair's mistress and he never even mentioned her in Inquisition
I think it has the possibility of being happy because while, they can't offically be a couple and she can never be queen, they are together and because Alistair is king he wont be sacrificing himself in the Fade/vanishing in the Anders anytime soon.
They'll keep them alive only to dramatically kill them in some way in the DLC.
I hope your strongly worded letter will include stick figure pictures, "Moondrummer and his BFF Loghain". You're a wonderful artiste!!
Varric can send Bartrand to a sanatorium, but there's clearly nothing actually in place to help those with mental health issues (see: the elf murdering son of the magistrate who got no help whatsoever.)
Also I'm not too sure they'd take super kindly to his 'mental health issue' being spirit possession.
It is okay for me if he still likes me despite decisions he does not approve of -- if I can explain myself to him, convince him of my integrity. Had they implemented that, the whole thing would be more believable.
I wanted this. It's why the story I pieced together went the way it did. The rivalry was words-based but eventually positive actions eclipsed it. Then, being much more thoughtful and considering ramifications later, almost all the later major decisions were against Solas, but you have little opportunity to have different reasons for them. At least there was a conversation about the Well, though about what you'd do with it. On the other hand, maybe it would come off as accusing and demanding explanation if the opportunities were there, not sure. Still, I'd like if you could say stuff like, "So... Morrigan?" or, "at least this way I know what the Wardens are doing, and have an in without whatever of them is left elsewhere."
On the Alistair/Fade thing, I suppose it's easy for me to imagine my nightmare Hawke eating spider legs from the seat of the Maker when somebody shows up to the Black City, so no biggie... Canon Hawke is a lot squishier... I like choices, though, even if the consequences are deferred for the time being. A lot of times they end up as contrived "door number 1 vs door number 2" choices ("I had 5 other doors in mind, how are these the only options?") and of course both doors go to the same room but have differently shaped doorknobs, but at least there's something...
Think I carried that one a bit far.
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This is sooo beautiful.
In my current playthrough I'm DREADING playing Here Lies The Abyss. I just had to play with the Keep and make Alistair the Warden. I know I could never kill Alistair so I know Hawke's going to die.
Alistair remaining a Warden though makes more sense to me. He's not a very good King compared to Anora. (When I played Origins though I always talked him into becoming King...) Also his dialog about the Warden is so passionate and sweet! He also gets to meet his son later on I think.
I should just remake my canon ... sacrificing Stoud is simple...
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Love this! 
You should draw more often.
hey guys, been away on a long residential shift at work, how are you all? 
thought I'd stop by to share art of my Solasmancing Inquiz, by needlesslycryptic of Tumblr:
her name is Gryff and she is an elf-shaped battering ram that pummels her way through everything
Love this!
There aren't many, that's for sure. Endings are difficult.
Planetscape:Torment has a brilliant ending. The original Matrix has a great ending. The Fountainhead has a great ending. Shawshank Redemption has a good ending. The extended edition of the Abyss has a good ending.
That's five examples right there.
There are plenty of arcs in larger series and RPGS that have great endings, including arcs in BioWare games. Although certainly not Inquisition.
Five whole good endings in all of literature, movie and games? You're not at all picky, I take it back.
I think most of us will be satisfied if there's resolution, and we don't want a twink ending. If there's some personal happiness in it for Solavellan, though, I'll be very glad.
Huh?
Disagreement over whether certain political approaches lead to dystopia or utopia, I imagine. I think all politics lead to dystopia, but maybe that's just a preference for fantasy to be cruddy and dark.
Fair. Personally, I'm not really fussed with however Bioware choose to play Past!Solas. I just find it amusing that, seemingly without consulting one another, almost everyone has arrived at the same conclusion.
He'd be the same character with the mop on his head, but the dreads are just... ugh.
And I see the guardians of the Temple of Babelas are ever wrathful. Silly. If it's any consolation, I've lurked at the Abelas thread from time to time as I do with many threads, but I learned my lesson about posting there. You can stand down.
But... but... what if you are a roleplayer, who makes characters that are nothing or little like you, to see what could happen in a story?
*messenger lizards scatter*
), can get this kind of treatment, I will be one seriously happy role player! 
, but I guess my thoughts are that they don't necessarily think less of the Inquisitor (though they certainly can, at times). Depending on the action or dialogue option the PC chooses, their thoughts may run the gambit. From mild indifference, to "I would have done it differently", to "What the *bleep!* were you thinking?!?". Wish we had more opportunities to discuss these differences with our companions, but still nice that they at least are given a voice - hampered as it may be. 
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