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MoonDrummer

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I've never watched the movie and had to look it up. At first I was a bit undecided about being Thelma, but then I learned that I basically had sex with Brad Pitt by association. Siha greatly approves.
No ragrets.

Damn, that was a perfect time for you to use:


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I finally finished Masked Empire. Does anyone have any concise theories they can link me to on the Felassan/Fen'harel connection?


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I finally finished Masked Empire. Does anyone have any concise theories they can link me to on the Felassan/Fen'harel connection?

 

No, but I'd be happy to talk about it.  A lot.  And so would a lot of other people.  Converstations about Best Elf and Best Wolf are always on topic.


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No, but I'd be happy to talk about it.  A lot.  And so would a lot of other people.  Converstations about Best Elf and Best Wolf are always on topic.

I thought Ameridan was best elf now?  :unsure:


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I thought Ameridan was best elf now?  :unsure:

 

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Our Inquisitor is bound to fuck up at one point or another so...


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No, but I'd be happy to talk about it.  A lot.  And so would a lot of other people.  Converstations about Best Elf and Best Wolf are always on topic.

 

Haha, fair enough. So my assumption was that he was some kind of vassal or servant to Fen'harel? But there's so many things I have questions about, including why his vallaslin seems to shift, and how long he's actually been walking the earth. And I'm making the assumption that his 'master' was Fen'harel, which could be wildly incorrect, though he does seem to tell a lot of stories about our dear wolf-man. 

 

Would Fen'harel then have a vallaslin? Could it theoretically no longer be in use, given what so many see as a betrayal of the Gods? 



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So this is the moment when you learn that I never live up to expectations.

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Not at all. As I said, feedback is important, and I don't feel my own opinions are wrong. Why would I have them, otherwise? I don't expect others to adhere to them, though, when it comes to what they create for others to enjoy. I don't whimper, as a rule, but while I can unfortunately understand the mentality that believes shouting into the night while others walk away is merely avoiding the appearance of cowardice, the reality is that you appear more like a small terrier, yapping at the wind, because it is the biggest dog around.

 

My point, which does not seem to be important, so I gather this should be my last reply (though everyone has been kind enough to not crucify me for doing so the first time), is that these are not our toys. Even putting aside that they are games, books, toys, stories, whatever, accounting for the fact that one can care for them very much, that doesn't mean they won't diverge from us. It's not brave to call your ex and give them an 8 page list of where they went wrong in their relationship and why they were foolish to take a path that diverged from yours. It's sad. Letting them go their own way doesn't mean you have to alter your course by a single step - it just means accepting that people, books, games, and our own ability to appreciate them, will fluctuate with time.

 

I can see the parts of Rand that must appeal to you, but regardless of what I think of that, I think you are missing the part where you go out and create yourself, rather than relying on others to do it for you.

 

 

I envy the certainty you seem to have in all things great and small. It must be very comforting. Perhaps a return to topic?

 

I think it's you who missed my point, if you think the cowardice in question referred to not speaking up when something upsets you. It does not. It refers to whining about the idea of 'right' while you depend on on people who use it. Because every element you've enjoyed of every story is probably there because someone decided it was 'right.' You hide behind the same people you need - because you need them, not only letting them take the hits for you, but denouncing them for doing so. That doesn't sound cowardly to you?

 

I don't expect BioWare to adhere to my suggestions, I as literally said in my previous post. I do not expect their next game to well written. I think that would be somewhat foolish at this point. And I don't really expect any other developers to be adhere to them either, else I would be spending my time on their forums. But you are correct in that perhaps I am overestimating the sort of impact reasoning can have on people. I would consider it overwhelmingly, inescapably obvious that cuddles are not an acceptable substitute for narrative fundamentals, but you're right. It's weakness on my part to assume that's something within the grasp of everyone.

 

I'm not relying on anyone. I do certainly think it would be nice for a masterpiece to exist in the world instead of a flop. I do like beautiful things. 

 

I envy the certainty you seem to have in all things great and small. It must be very comforting. Perhaps a return to topic?

 

Hardly. Just the things I choose to speak about in such a manner. Don't mix up cause and effect and make claims to denounce the concept of 'right at all times and places' and end up denouncing the concept of 'right, anywhere.'



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including why his vallaslin seems to shift,

 

I think we were meant to get the impression that the lines on his face were twisted in a more mundane way by his expression, though it was written strangely either way.



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Well, really, this is the Solas thread. Take the off-topic to a thread more appropriate for discussing BioWare and whatever faults you perceive. It doesn't belong here.


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Spoiler

Our Inquisitor is bound to fuck up at one point or another so...

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Considering our inqusitors had to finish his job for him...  ;)

Haha, fair enough. So my assumption was that he was some kind of vassal or servant to Fen'harel? But there's so many things I have questions about, including why his vallaslin seems to shift, and how long he's actually been walking the earth. And I'm making the assumption that his 'master' was Fen'harel, which could be wildly incorrect, though he does seem to tell a lot of stories about our dear wolf-man. 

 

Would Fen'harel then have a vallaslin? Could it theoretically no longer be in use, given what so many see as a betrayal of the Gods? 

I think Felassan was working for Flemythal, his vallaslin are described as curling around his eyes, which sounds like Mythals tree to me. He could have come from the same temple as Abelas, but he doesn't seem as grumpy as them.

 

So this is the moment when you learn that I never live up to expectations.

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I think we were meant to get the impression that the lines on his face were twisted in a more mundane way by his expression, though it was written strangely either way.

 

The way it's written definitely made it sound as though his vallaslin literally changed, though I admit it could just be poorly phrased. 



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The way it's written definitely made it sound as though his vallaslin literally changed, though I admit it could just be poorly phrased. 

Yeah, I think people would have freaked out if that was the case. :P



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The way it's written definitely made it sound as though his vallaslin literally changed, though I admit it could just be poorly phrased. 

 

There was a lot of "twisting with..." (expression), and I think the occasions where they 'seemed to move of their own accord' or 'dance' or what-have-you were 'in the firelight' type effects. I quirked a brow at it, too. (edit - figuratively, of course. Lurkers don't have brows, natch.)


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Bioware, I know you can afford to hire actual novelists, come on.

 

There was a lot of "twisting with..." (expression), and I think the occasions where they 'seemed to move of their own accord' or 'dance' or what-have-you were 'in the firelight' type effects. I quirked a brow at it, too. (edit - figuratively, of course. Lurkers don't have brows, natch.)

 

That is true. Weekes likes to abuse certain phrases over and over again. Oh Weekes. I love you, but you are a problematic fav. 



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I have six artists I'm waiting to here back from! Six! The anticipation of finishing this thing is driving me nuts. That said, I do finally have a decent stream of permission-provided images. So here's a sneak peak for you guys (and since i know some of the artists I asked are on here).  :wizard:

 


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I thought Ameridan was best elf now?  :unsure:

 

I wouldn't know.  I've not played the DLC.  But Felassan is alway Best Elf.  Any other elf if Best Elf (after Felassan).

 

Haha, fair enough. So my assumption was that he was some kind of vassal or servant to Fen'harel? But there's so many things I have questions about, including why his vallaslin seems to shift, and how long he's actually been walking the earth. And I'm making the assumption that his 'master' was Fen'harel, which could be wildly incorrect, though he does seem to tell a lot of stories about our dear wolf-man. 

 

Would Fen'harel then have a vallaslin? Could it theoretically no longer be in use, given what so many see as a betrayal of the Gods? 

 

My theory is that Felassan is bound to another god but is working (as much as he is able to) for Fen'Harel.  If you've ever read Fire and Hemlock by Diana Wynne Jones then

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Fen'Harel possibly did have a vallaslin but Solas has rejected it completely.  Weekes has refused to answer any questions about Felassan's vallaslin or if Fen'Harel did have one.



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EVERYONE's Lavellan is a Mary Sue. Our characters go from simple Firsts to the Keepers of our clans to leaders of the Inquisition over night. And we amazingly have all the skills required to get the job done.

 

DLC:

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Not that I mind. I mean, it's a video game. But it does make me roll my eyes when I think about it.

Not every Lavellan is a mage, though.  Mine's an archer and she very much was nowhere near clan leadership.  She fought being the Herald and then the Inquisitor every step of the way (stupid shems) and uses the power people insist on giving her to destabilize things wherever possible.

 

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I don't disagree that all PCs in BioWare games (and plenty of others) suffer from a certain degree of Mary Sue syndrome but not all of them follow the same path.


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I don't disagree that all PCs in BioWare games (and plenty of others) suffer from a certain degree of Mary Sue syndrome but not all of them follow the same path.

 

Shepard was probably the worst in that regard.  But this is honestly part of why I like Hawke.  Hawke is just a normal person who happens to be good at killing people...and not the best at helping.  Who winds up in way, way, over his/her head.

 

Edit for TOP: My Solavellan sims being dorky.

12_29_14_7_52__pm_by_nessamelda-d8bwgig.


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Edit for TOP: My Solavellan sims being dorky.

 

I didn't know you could make elves in Sims...



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I didn't know you could make elves in Sims...

 

It's a mod that replaces the earrings with elf ears.  Lemme see if I can dig around and find it, since it's been a while since I played the Sims 4.



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It's a mod that replaces the earrings with elf ears.  Lemme see if I can dig around and find it, since it's been a while since I played the Sims 4.

 

That's what I thought. It's okay, I don't own the Sims games anymore - too much of a life-suck. But, there might be others here who would like it.



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Here it is!  The Solas sim, and the mods necessary to make it work:

 

http://eccentricsims...tagged/download


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Art!

 

This is part of a really epic DAI fanart.  Only the top part has Solas and the complete thing is huge.  Please follow the link and check out the whole thing!

 


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Bummer..I only have Sims 1,2 and 3...but I will own 4 someday I'm sure..so I will save that link.  thank you for posting it, Sable.