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[Addai]

Well, she can be an individual by staying in the corner of the inn by herself, I would not tolerate people second guessing me, especially with weapons pointed at me. If my behavior warranted such a reaction, that'd be one thing. What exactly would she have found out by pointing an arrow at me, demons don't go "dang, ya caught me! Boogie boogie boogie!"

It's a repeat of Cullen testing the templar he thinks is possesed in DA2. When he threatens him, the demon comes out to protect his host.

[Heidirs]

If she were really assessing you, she'd do so without letting the possessed individual know she's wary of them. The bow thing was obviously purely reactionary.

 

Just because you don't agree with her methods, doesn't mean she's not assessing the situation.

[ComedicSociopathy]

 

 

So about that Fen'Harel guy...he seems pretty shady to me...

 

Yeah, that fella stole the gear I lent him after we took out that Corypheus jerk!

 

Should of known not to trust an elven hobo. 

[ComedicSociopathy]

It's a repeat of Cullen testing the templar he thinks is possesed in DA2. When he threatens him, the demon comes out to protect his host.

 

Demons are stupid like that. 

[Colonelkillabee]

It's a repeat of Cullen testing the templar he thinks is possesed in DA2. When he threatens him, the demon comes out to protect his host.

Hmm, true. Forgot about that.

 

 

Just because you don't agree with her methods, doesn't mean she's not assessing the situation.

She didn't assess it well enough. I obviously was using hyperbole when I said she didn't think at all before.

[Maria13]

Probably Cole.  I think Solas may pop up if the devs have plans for him after the game, but I hesitate to think he'll be a full blown companion.  Mostly because the romance option. LIke what did he do...leave lavellan at home with the kids???  **** THAT. If we get back together and the he trundles off on Indiana Jones adventures without ME.  Holy ****, he better not come home.

 

I hope it's Dorian. I hope it's the Tevinter Imperium and Dorian, but yeah then the romance option. So maybe Calpernia?

 

I see Solas as standing in Flemeth's stead or as a questgiver... I don't think he'll be a companion again in a new full-blown game...

[Maria13]

I thought it was pretty clear that they were both willingly (and currently) engaging in their… thing. How is that even subject to debate?

 

Yes, and it probably turns them both on...

 

Sexuality is not always straightforward even that of dwarves.

[OxidantsHappen]

Well, she can be an individual by staying in the corner of the inn by herself, I would not tolerate people second guessing me, especially with weapons pointed at me. If my behavior warranted such a reaction, that'd be one thing. What exactly would she have found out by pointing an arrow at me, demons don't go "dang, ya caught me! Boogie boogie boogie!"

 

The bolded is not a statement that a leader would say, it is a statement a tyrant would say.

 

The underlined statement is naive, because rarely do people ever believe their actions are unwarranted.  People always find ways to justify their actions, no matter how unjust.

 

Other characters have threatened to kill/attack the protagonist in previous games in much more serious contexts, and they have not received as much hate as Sera has over this.  She may not have thought her actions through, but she's taking action for something she believes in.  The protagonist may have plot armor to protect anything bad from happening to them, but the other members of the Inquisition do not have that insight.  

[BoscoBread]

I see Solas as standing in Flemeth's stead or as a questgiver... I don't think he'll be a companion again in a new full-blown game...

Me neither.  I think his "personal" story will be wrapped up in this game and the DLC.  Meaning how he grows as a person and all that sappy stuff.   So I agree, I think he may crop up as this lore important quest giver or as someone you may have to briefly work with, but I think it would undercut the impact of his actual story if he goes with another group. I don't know why. Maybe it's because I think it's important for him to have these established close friendships with the Inquisiton.  He finally finds his place in the world. He's not really wandering anymore.  I dunno. I'm rambling.

[Colonelkillabee]

The bolded is not a statement that a leader would say, it is a statement a tyrant would say.

 

The underlined statement is naive, because rarely do people ever believe their actions are unwarranted.  People always find ways to justify their actions, no matter how unjust.

No, that's what a military leader would say when they're in command and at war. The last thing you need is your soldiers second guessing your orders.

 

The naive part is thinking that a military leader would tolerate such behavior. I wouldn't accept that from Sera or anyone. This is a military organization, not a clubhouse or a blanket fort of feels.

[OxidantsHappen]

No, that's what a military leader would say when they're in command and at war. The last thing you need is your soldiers second guessing your orders.

 

The naive part is thinking that a military leader would tolerate such behavior. I wouldn't accept that from Sera or anyone. This is a military organization, not a clubhouse or a blanket fort of feels.

 

And this is why you will never find yourself in a position of leadership.  People do not just "assume" their roles as leaders, they earn them through working as a team.  You won't get anywhere thinking everyone else's opinion is below yours.

[phosphene]

Is that why it's so big?

 

 

JK.

 

 

His jawline is beautiful.

man needs a strong jaw so you have some place to sit

 

and lol

 

"is that why it's so big"

 

oh you

[Cee]

Frustration is...boyfriend complaining about a game he hasn't even finished half the story in and then reducing the reasons why you like a game or character down to romance. Especially since I have the Solas romance card as my tablet background (it also happens to be my favorite of all the tarot cards they did, for the art too). then again, he belittled the series and reduced my enjoyment of Origins to...Alistair? Like there is so very much more in that game. I think he's stereotyping too much. Sigh.

 

Ugh, I told him that there are many reasons why I love Solas and the romance only makes up a bit of that, but it opens up so much of his character and he cannot understand that without me spoiling and he reduces the entire game to a series of shallow complaints. He hated what he played and thinks it's terrible and yet complained when I accidentally spoiled Morrigan's presence somewhere. Like...make up your mind if you hate it and refuse to play or care about spoilers.

 

Layers, there are layers!

[Illyria]

The bolded is not a statement that a leader would say, it is a statement a tyrant would say.

 

The underlined statement is naive, because rarely do people ever believe their actions are unwarranted.  People always find ways to justify their actions, no matter how unjust.

 

Other characters have threatened to kill/attack the protagonist in previous games in much more serious contexts, and they have not received as much hate as Sera has over this.  She may not have thought her actions through, but she's taking action for something she believes in.  The protagonist may have plot armor to protect anything bad from happening to them, but the other members of the Inquisition do not have that insight.  

 

 

And this is why you will never find yourself in a position of leadership.  People do not just "assume" their roles as leaders, they earn them through working as a team.  You won't get anywhere thinking everyone else's opinion is below yours.

 

Oxidants, where have you and your wisdom been lately?

[OxidantsHappen]

Oxidants, where have you and your wisdom been lately?

 

The internet is not a safe place for wisdom! 

[ComedicSociopathy]

Well, she can be an individual by staying in the corner of the inn by herself, I would not tolerate people second guessing me, especially with weapons pointed at me. If my behavior warranted such a reaction, that'd be one thing. What exactly would she have found out by pointing an arrow at me, demons don't go "dang, ya caught me! Boogie boogie boogie!"

 

If you don't like people second-guessing or complaining about your decisions then your going to hate being the Inquisitor. Or any Dragon Age PC really. 

[Addai]

Other characters have threatened to kill/attack the protagonist in previous games in much more serious contexts, and they have not received as much hate as Sera has over this.  She may not have thought her actions through, but she's taking action for something she believes in.  The protagonist may have plot armor to protect anything bad from happening to them, but the other members of the Inquisition do not have that insight.

And like I said above, if she'd actually succeeded in her cunning plan, everyone could congratulate Sera on her bravery right before assuming the position for Emperor Corypheus. Pucker up.

The fact is that people much more qualified to judge the matter are around, and Sera has no other reason for her action than that she believes, due to her own prejudice and kneejerk fear, that elven gods are demons.

It's also hardly the only reason why people dislike Sera but apparently some here are offended at the idea of someone not liking a character they like? It's the BSN, I guess.

[OxidantsHappen]

And like I said above, if she'd actually succeeded in her cunning plan, everyone could congratulate Sera on her bravery right before assuming the position for Emperor Corypheus. Pucker up.

The fact is that people much more qualified to judge the matter are around, and Sera has no other reason for her action than that she believes, due to her own prejudice and kneejerk fear, that elven gods are demons.

It's also hardly the only reason why people dislike Sera but apparently some here are offended at the idea of someone not liking a character they like? It's the BSN, I guess.

 

Oh, qualified like you?

[ComedicSociopathy]

And like I said above, if she'd actually succeeded in her cunning plan, everyone could congratulate Sera on her bravery right before assuming the position for Emperor Corypheus. Pucker up.

 

Nah, one of the mages would of just used Revive on the Inquisitor and everything would go right back on track. Death is something that peasants deal with. 

[Colonelkillabee]

And this is why you will never find yourself in a position of leadership. People do not just "assume" their roles as leaders, they earn them through working as a team. You won't get anywhere thinking everyone else's opinion is below yours.

You have a funny idea of working as a team. And anyway I find it odd you call me naive if you think that this is actually true, in accordance to those that gain leadership. Oftentimes it is thrust upon you.

Anyway, this isn't about me, but the inquisitor, who I think has earned enough respect to not have the likes of sera jumping the gun when she herself can barely run a group of misfits.

[yetanothername]

*idly* Miltary-based objections seem very character-specific regardless of how accurate they are, since not all inquisitors will take this approach. Most backgrounds have very few qualifications for the role, after all - I imagine the more experienced soldiers to be rolling their eyes at the hard stances taken by anyone but maybe Adaar as rather up-jumped. It also seems like not much of an issue, since you are allowed to act on that at any given time and kick her out.

 

Ugh, I told him that there are many reasons why I love Solas and the romance only makes up a bit of that, but it opens up so much of his character and he cannot understand that without me spoiling and he reduces the entire game to a series of shallow complaints. He hated what he played and thinks it's terrible and yet complained when I accidentally spoiled Morrigan's presence somewhere. Like...make up your mind if you hate it and refuse to play or care about spoilers.

 

Layers, there are layers!

 

I had/have a lot of complaints or criticisms, but I do share difficulties in being able to talk without fear of spoilers for ? amount of time. "Are you going to play/read this in the next ten years? Can I talk about it, then?" I actually narrated a set of very long novels just to have someone to talk about specific points with.

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[Addai]

Oh, qualified like you?

Like Solas and Cassandra. But my Lavellan being a mage who's resisted possession for this long- yes, her too.

Just picture if the PC had tried to disarm Sera instead of meekly standing by while her life is threatened. To Sera that would be "proof" that she's demon possessed. She really thought this through, mm hm.

[OxidantsHappen]

You have a funny idea of working as a team. And anyway I find it odd you call me naive if you think that this is actually true, in accordance to those that gain leadership. Oftentimes it is thrust upon you.

Anyway, this isn't about me, but the inquisitor, who I think has earned enough respect to not have the likes of sera jumping the gun when she herself can barely run a group of misfits.

 

You're right.  Listening to the concerns of your teammates has no place in teamwork! My apologies, I was confused.  

[Colonelkillabee]

Oh, qualified like you?

I'd say a dalish Mage is more qualified, yes...

[Heidirs]

No, that's what a military leader would say when they're in command and at war. The last thing you need is your soldiers second guessing your orders.

 

The naive part is thinking that a military leader would tolerate such behavior. I wouldn't accept that from Sera or anyone. This is a military organization, not a clubhouse or a blanket fort of feels.

 

But see, my Inquisitor is not a military officer. She's a dalish elf who ended up with a weird mark on her hand and went from on the verge of execution one day to leading the Inquisition the next. But the title of Inquisitor does not make her military when she has no background or training of the sort.

 

If people want to roleplay their character as "I am a military leader and this is a military organization and I will not be questioned," I can get behind that. That's cool.

 

But to say the Inquisition is a "military order" and Sera's out of place for not following her superior officers as a general rule is almost laughable. The Inquisition is made of Cassandra, who has left the Seekers, Cullen, who has left the Templars, and your Inquisitor who has no miliary background to speak of regardless of origin (I think). Chancellor Roderick calls the Inquisition a bunch of misfits at one point, and he's right. It's not based or founded on an existing military order. It's just founded by a bunch of random people who happened to share a common cause. It might have a military aspect to it and there's some hierarchy of command, but I'm not sure that makes it a military order - especially when they put your Inquisitor who as no military background in charge.