Hey, for any of you who have posted fanfiction to AO3, you might wanna take a look and make sure your fanfiction hasn't been cribbed to Ebook tree and sold without permission. I was fine, but just to be safe 
I've also taken the additional measure of limiting my AO3 works to registered site users only until they figure out WTF is going on.
Especially since he was considering telling the actual truth about himself.
I seriously need that to happen in the future. I need to witness that trainwreck.
Hey, for any of you who have posted fanfiction to AO3, you might wanna take a look and make sure your fanfiction hasn't been cribbed to Ebook tree and sold without permission. I was fine, but just to be safe
I've also taken the additional measure of limiting my AO3 works to registered site users only until they figure out WTF is going on.
Thanks.
AO3 seems to also be actively taking measures to help.
Hey, for any of you who have posted fanfiction to AO3, you might wanna take a look and make sure your fanfiction hasn't been cribbed to Ebook tree and sold without permission. I was fine, but just to be safe
As a warning, the Ebook tree site is likely run by bots. I was having a discussion about this with someone earlier, and it's uncertain if the site actually has people's work (although the consensus seems to be yes) or if it's copying your search terms in the results. Don't try to log in to view any of the downloads, as it may also be capturing your email and password for phishing purposes. If you do visit the site, I recommend doing a scan for malware on your computer because I had about 10 viriuses pop up after checking this out.
I seriously need that to happen in the future. I need to witness that trainwreck.
I just want my confused Lavellan who is left with too many unanswered questions to have some of them answered. Even if what we get is some bittersweet closure of sorts. But I'd like her to have at least the option. Knowing the truth about who he is would help and not help. It helped me when I was accidentally spoiled before What Pride Had Wrought and then not spoiled for the breakup so it was like...I, the player understand, kind of, maybe......but Lavellan, forever in the dark....
I am bringing this back up, because it's glorious!!!! Hobo!Solas!!!!!
Somehow I missed this. My day is made now.
I am bringing this back up, because it's glorious!!!! Hobo!Solas!!!!!
How did I miss this!!!!
I am bringing this back up, because it's glorious!!!! Hobo!Solas!!!!!
who is this??? LOL
I just want my confused Lavellan who is left with too many unanswered questions to have some of them answered. Even if what we get is some bittersweet closure of sorts. But I'd like her to have at least the option. Knowing the truth about who he is would help and not help. It helped me when I was accidentally spoiled before What Pride Had Wrought and then not spoiled for the breakup so it was like...I, the player understand, kind of, maybe......but Lavellan, forever in the dark....
I'm totally in two minds. On one hand I'm hopelessly romantic and want to see some sort of bittersweet reconciliation because star-crossed lovers are literally my favourite thing in the world.
On the other I want to just see the whole thing become the epic sh**storm it totally could be.
Logically though, the only reason I'm still so enamoured with this storyline is that it's unresolved. That's the allure of the whole relationship (apart from all of the romance and tragedy, because I'm a sucker for that garbage). If it had been wrapped up at the end of DAI and Lavellan had found out who Solas was and either been like 'I'm coming with you then' or 'you are a lying piece of trash' then I could have just wiped my hands of the whole thing and moved on with my life.
But since neither of those things happened I am stuck here with these disgusting feelings.
Someone doing an impression of Hobo!Solas. xD
Spoiler
Did this...omg...HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS EARLIER.
I'm crying. I'M CRYING!!
I'm also crying cause I'm failing school but that's not important right now...
Def made my day thank you
Logically though, the only reason I'm still so enamoured with this storyline is that it's unresolved. That's the allure of the whole relationship (apart from all of the romance and tragedy, because I'm a sucker for that garbage). If it had been wrapped up at the end of DAI and Lavellan had found out who Solas was and either been like 'I'm coming with you then' or 'you are a lying piece of trash' then I could have just wiped my hands of the whole thing and moved on with my life.
I'm thinking of Witch Hunt when even after Morrigan walked through the eluvian, I was sitting there thinking - where the heck are you going? What the heck are you doing? Am I ever going to see you again?!
Even if we get the DLC and Lavellan can go with Solas, I imagine, I'm still going to be sitting here going
I'm thinking of Witch Hunt when even after Morrigan walked through the eluvian, I was sitting there thinking - where the heck are you going? What the heck are you doing? Am I ever going to see you again?!
Even if we get the DLC and Lavellan can go with Solas, I imagine, I'm still going to be sitting here going
<snip>
I'll still love them and care about them, but I imagine my obsession enthusiasm will turn more towards the whole 'I wonder what those crazy cats are up to? How is this going to effect Thedas? Hmmm.'
Rather than, 'Oh god is he going to be alone forever?! How much more will he have to sacrifice for the elves? Will she ever find out who he is?! WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?!?!?!'
I'll still love them and care about them, but I imagine my
obsessionenthusiasm will turn more towards the whole 'I wonder what those crazy cats are up to? How is this going to effect Thedas? Hmmm.'
Rather than, 'Oh god is he going to be alone forever?! How much more will he have to sacrifice for the elves? Will she ever find out who he is?! WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?!?!?!'
I'm kind of like....both of you. But I think this would also ease my mind slightly.
But ugh Solas, you complicated god of bad decisions. Caring so much, regretting so much, keeping to yourself, and yet fear dying alone.
Yo, Solas thead.Wasn't here for a while, but I wanted to show you something.
I was just browsing through a scottish gaelic dict (as inspiration for fictional location names. Don't ask.) when suddenly:
It's probably already known, but I just found it interesting ^^
But ugh Solas, you complicated god of bad decisions. Caring so much, regretting so much, keeping to yourself, and yet fear dying alone.
I just want to take this sentence and hug it...
who is this??? LOL
From what I gather via the tumblr notes, a beautious person who imitated dat face for the benefit of humanity.
Logically though, the only reason I'm still so enamoured with this storyline is that it's unresolved. That's the allure of the whole relationship (apart from all of the romance and tragedy, because I'm a sucker for that garbage). If it had been wrapped up at the end of DAI and Lavellan had found out who Solas was and either been like 'I'm coming with you then' or 'you are a lying piece of trash' then I could have just wiped my hands of the whole thing and moved on with my life.
Same here. This is the first romance I've played that ended so unresolved. I suppose the ending of DA2 was open for interpretation, but at least it was very clear that Hawke and his/her LI were together at the end. And the epilogue slides for DA:O/DA:A were so wishy-washy that everyone just headcanoned whatever they liked.
But ATM with Solas and Lavellan, I'm like this dog. Which I guess makes Patrick Weekes Mulan?
I agree, I kind of like the way the romances were set up this time. It's kind of realistic. But I also don't think a non-Lavellan makes greater sense with Solas, given the character development involved, his experiences with the Dalish, and his thoughts on and relationship with modern elves in general versus all his regrets and memories and traditions of the past. And, of course, having been vilified and all these things taught about him to the Dalish. It's super important that he falls for someone Dalish. 'It's complicated' only begins to describe the situation he then finds himself in. And even if that Lavellan were male, it would make sense.
My issue with this take is that it applies a certain special-ness to the romance above the others companions for the very fact that he dates a female elf and is the Dread Wolf. It also manages to boil down his character to just the romance bits when - according to the writer - Solas will always bee written first with the non-romance in mind and the romance 2nd. The romance was added to make Solas more sympathetic as Weekes was worried that his leaving the Inquisition abruptly would rub people the wrong way. [I understand that his romance is more interesting, i frankly find it the better written one. but that's all due to Weeke's writing not because of what it is]
Likely his reason for "loving" female elf is no more interesting than why anyone is attracted to anyone - he just is attracted to women and elves. The End.
In my very un-popular opinion, I actually don't find the whole broken fairytale romance of Dread Wolf/Elf the most compelling part of the romance. We don't find out until the end, so you end up applying that knowledge to the feelings that you had for his character prior to that. I find him attractive because he confident, charming, intelligent, and kind. He's also got a host of flaws that make it fun to argue with him about and dissect. If and when the time comes for him to tell you the truth, my Lavellan is going to just be like 'ok..but that's a story and i know solas. you're still the same? yes? if you are then those are just neat stories told about you like people have about me...the inquisitor. they are meaningless to me.' It's something I'm sure she'd joke with him about, but in the end that's not who he is. Much like the Dalish aren't just their myths and their history.
In my very un-popular opinion, I actually don't find the whole broken fairytale romance of Dread Wolf/Elf the most compelling part of the romance. We don't find out until the end, so you end up applying that knowledge to the feelings that you had for his character prior to that. I find him attractive because he confident, charming, intelligent, and kind. He's also got a host of flaws that make it fun to argue with him about and dissect. If and when the time comes for him to tell you the truth, my Lavellan is going to just be like 'ok..but that's a story and i know solas. you're still the same? yes? if you are then those are just neat stories told about you like people have about me...the inquisitor. they are meaningless to me.' It's something I'm sure she'd joke with him about, but in the end that's not who he is. Much like the Dalish aren't just their myths and their history.
I love this, but I don't know how my girl is going to handle it. On the one hand, yes, the Dalish are more than their myths and history, but on the other until the whole ordeal with the vallaslin she very much believed in the Elven Gods being as real as Cassandra believes the Maker is, after that point she starts to lose faith in it and truly wonder about who they were, taking what Solas says about his belief that they were more powerful nobles than anything else into consideration.
Then, she finds out he's Fen'Harel, someone who she's spent her whole childhood and much of the Dalish's history being portrayed as a trickster, a liar. At the very least, my girl's gut reaction is that Solas tricked her all along, and to distrust him, but I guess it also boils down to how she finds out, and what other information we have at the time. For now, all her knowledge that the Elven Gods weren't what they seemed came from Solas - if she has other proof at the time, then she may react differently.
It's so hard trying to not put my feelings into my girl. xD
I think the majority of people found his character attractive because he was confident, intelligent, and smooth as ****. He's also one of the few characters who actively challenges the PC to expand their understanding of the world. Also: fade dates are basically the most romantic thing ever.
But what keeps me thinking about their relationship and caring about it now is the fact that it's unresolved, which is intrinsically linked to the fact that he's the Dread Wolf. It's not the most important part of their relationship, but it's the biggest obstacle they have to overcome (in that his being Fen'Harel means he has a lot of other serious obligations. Not just because of angst).
His being the Dread Wolf isn't a deciding factor in whether or not he is attractive to most people, because he could have been a god and still been boring or crass or any number of unattractive qualities, and were that the case my Lavellan probably wouldn't have been involved with him. But the whole 'old elven god' thing does have a serious effect on how the relationship will play out between the two of them, and I think that's what's compelling for most people. Not that he's a god (or whatever), but that his being a god means he has duties and motivations outside of simply catering to the PC. And that's pretty rare in games.
My issue with this take is that it applies a certain special-ness to the romance above the others companions for the very fact that he dates a female elf and is the Dread Wolf. It also manages to boil down his character to just the romance bits when - according to the writer - Solas will always bee written first with the non-romance in mind and the romance 2nd. The romance was added to make Solas more sympathetic as Weekes was worried that his leaving the Inquisition abruptly would rub people the wrong way. [I understand that his romance is more interesting, i frankly find it the better written one. but that's all due to Weeke's writing not because of what it is]
Likely his reason for "loving" female elf is no more interesting than why anyone is attracted to anyone - he just is attracted to women and elves. The End.
In my very un-popular opinion, I actually don't find the whole broken fairytale romance of Dread Wolf/Elf the most compelling part of the romance. We don't find out until the end, so you end up applying that knowledge to the feelings that you had for his character prior to that. I find him attractive because he confident, charming, intelligent, and kind. He's also got a host of flaws that make it fun to argue with him about and dissect. If and when the time comes for him to tell you the truth, my Lavellan is going to just be like 'ok..but that's a story and i know solas. you're still the same? yes? if you are then those are just neat stories told about you like people have about me...the inquisitor. they are meaningless to me.' It's something I'm sure she'd joke with him about, but in the end that's not who he is. Much like the Dalish aren't just their myths and their history.
I agree with you and wasn't implying the romance or romanticizing his identity as Fen'Harel meant more than the rest. I do think it has particular meaning for him if he falls deeply in love with someone whose entire traditions are crafted from the broken world and misunderstandings that arose from what he helped in some way to create. The Dalish, in their own ways, created something based on assumptions, which he also attempted to help in some way and was rejected and grew weary of them. The fact she's Dalish is no small thing, in my opinion. Not to mention the character development a Dalish Inquisitor can go through during the events of the game, not solely with his advice and information, but coupled with it....not even talking just the romance here, but it adds a little bit more.
I personally think it was the most fulfilling first playthrough I (or anyone) could have chosen, but the romance is just one part of that.
As for adding a romance to prevent people from seeing Solas as a villain/add depth to his character - my friends didn't understand why I felt how I felt when I finished since they didn't play elves or romance Solas. I had this lingering sadness over everything, even the final party and stuff. So it definitely helps those of us who did pursue the romance path to see him with more depth.
I think on the whole, he's extremely fascinating and it's also good to see both the friendship path and the path where he hates you because you get more bits to put together. Personally, all of those qualities were why I was drawn to him in the first place. And it's good that any knowledge of that sort usually comes late in the game, especially if you were like me and played that way the first time. Because it is paramount that you get to know him for him no matter what. He obviously can't leave for plot reasons so having his low approval path be so....informative (I've only watched videos since I know I wouldn't make enough decisions for him to hate me that much)
I love this, but I don't know how my girl is going to handle it. On the one hand, yes, the Dalish are more than their myths and history, but on the other until the whole ordeal with the vallaslin she very much believed in the Elven Gods being as real as Cassandra believes the Maker is, after that point she starts to lose faith in it and truly wonder about who they were, taking what Solas says about his belief that they were more powerful nobles than anything else into consideration.
Then, she finds out he's Fen'Harel, someone who she's spent her whole childhood and much of the Dalish's history being portrayed as a trickster, a liar. At the very least, my girl's gut reaction is that Solas tricked her all along, and to distrust him, but I guess it also boils down to how she finds out, and what other information we have at the time. For now, all her knowledge that the Elven Gods weren't what they seemed came from Solas - if she has other proof at the time, then she may react differently.
It's so hard trying to not put my feelings into my girl. xD
Obviously the reaction is going to be different for every player and then how everybody role-played. Mine is atheistic and pragmatic. For her, they were just stories. She would have a hard time seeing Solas as Fen'Harel. There is likely a kernel of truth to the stories, which I'm sure he'll tell her about, and that truth is likely going to be...problematic...but it will also be something that is already hinted at in his character. Something that she can understand as she puts the pieces together.
Regarding the vallaslin - I actually think it was a bit of a mis-step that they didn't give that scene to every Lavellan. It's a very powerful truth and provides a lot of wonderful opportunities to really dive into BEING Dalish for each player. I think it's sad that it's tied to the romance because they made it this intimate scene when at the end of the day it's about reconciling your own beliefs. Not about you and Solas. My .02 cents on that.
My Lavellan's approach to him is much how I would be. Rumors and stories are just that...rumors and stories. They aren't tangible and can be mis-trusted. Until I can see it with my own eyes, I will usually give somebody a chance. It's what I would hope for myself.
Regarding the vallaslin - I actually think it was a bit of a mis-step that they didn't give that scene to every Lavellan. It's a very powerful truth and provides a lot of wonderful opportunities to really dive into BEING Dalish for each player. I think it's sad that it's tied to the romance because they made it this intimate scene when at the end of the day it's about reconciling your own beliefs. Not about you and Solas. My .02 cents on that.
I completely agree with this. That scene is really romantic and all, but that mostly comes down to the staging and the emotional intimacy. It's frankly a little bizarre that you could play the whole game as Dalish elf and never have that option.
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