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You know, I'm actually not especially miserable at the hands of the hellspiral, to be honest. I had my moments, but I'm quite pleased that Solas is causing me to feel such strong feelings. Sure, I have this irremovable ache in my heart that clamps my heartstrings in its fist at times, and I may still cry like a baby over some scenes and artwork and writings, but ultimately I'm thoroughly enjoying myself. Better still, Solas led me to meet you wonderful people. Each and every person on this thread is beautiful, amazing, and brilliant, and I've come to respect you all immensely. I'm very, very glad to have met you people.

 

Confession time: I have yet to Hellspiral. The Solace romance is just too damn lovely for me to feel upset by it. He broke up with my Inquisitor and I was like, "Wow, that was just a beautiful scene. So lovely. Too pretty to be sad. The feels! Must watch again." Is that weird? It's probably weird.

 

. . .

 

Well, give me tragedy and I make rainbows with it! This is why Meer's space alien icon is just peeeeeerfect. <3


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I will definitely desire to read that story. When it's finished, if I could be allowed to read it I would be grateful and delighted.

 

Please feel free to read it if you like! I write about as quickly as a sloth moves, but our Samson works tend to be posted here on Archive.

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on Samson. It brightens my day a little each time someone sees him for the nuanced character he is. His sympathetic nature makes him an excellent antagonist, very human, very in line with the successful Dragon Age model for "villains" (Loghain, Orsino, Meredith, etc).


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*snip*

This will be an unpopular opionion but, I want the Inquisitor to die, the Inquisition to fall, and for a few of the companions to die. Inquisiton was very upbeat, the only downside is the fall of Haven, and even then I was like 'Oh no! Seggrit died? Let me wipe away my tears with the tissues my brand new awesome castle provides.' Jose breaks the chantry's lyrium hold with a snap of her fingers, we walk in and out of the fade without any consequences, we quick-march an army through a desert then win a siege against a fortress occupied by the best warriors on Thedas and a horde of demons, and so on. 

 

I never got the impression that my character or my companions were in danger, so I would love for that to all come crashing down. The Inquisitor can go out with a bang (I don't want a tree to fall on him or something), the Inquisition disappears, and Bioware has an excuse to make sure none of our decisions matter. 

 

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Ideal death scene:

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I secretly harbor a desire to see the Inquisition struggle. I mean, really struggle. I want to see them hit rock bottom. I want to see them challenged with an adversity that makes them truly believe in the likelihood of their not overcoming it. -snip short novel-

 

They did that with Mass Effect... And you may or may not remember how well that, er, ended. :P

 

Even if ME's ending had been a roaring success, they have done that story already. But in a strange way, I agree, I would like to see a worth adversary for the Inquisition to face. Corypheus was about knocking him down piece by piece until he had nothing left. I'd like to see something with the enemy on par or even far superior to the Inquisition where it is now - at the height of its power and influence.

 

Like mebbe Tevinter!


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So I'm trying to read The Masked Empire yet all the abuse toward elves is literally making me angry.

Am I just weird? 

Maybe I've become too attached to my Dalish Inquisitor.

Personally I feel parallels between my race and the elven race. 

Now on Chapter 6 I feel as though I'll have no regrets letting Briala rule in my current playthrough.

 

I thought the book did an excellent job of portraying the different aspects of elven culture. Have you hit the Dalish yet? I love that we aren't given this overly romanticized picture of them- we see them for what they are, every negative aspect of them, how isolated they've made themselves. I like it a lot better than... forest elves running around having a magical life and being perfect. Give me brutal, nasty, unpleasant Dalish all day every day. Give me Dalish that have flaws as deep as canyons. 


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I'm all for adversity... as long as there is a way to "win". I want to struggle to earn my happiness, to earn my desired outcome. No "no matter what, you die" like ME3. I hate that.


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Confession time: I have yet to Hellspiral. The Solace romance is just too damn lovely for me to feel upset by it. He broke up with my Inquisitor and I was like, "Wow, that was just a beautiful scene. So lovely. Too pretty to be sad. The feels! Must watch again." Is that weird? It's probably weird.

 

. . .

 

Well, give me tragedy and I make rainbows with it! This is why Meer's space alien icon is just peeeeeerfect. <3

 

Not weird at all. Solas' romance wouldn't be my favorite romance if it was all fluffy sunshine rays and rainbow-y life. If I wanted a saccharine sweet, ooey-gooey fairy tale, I would have romanced Cullen. What makes Solas' romance so wondrous to me is the emotion, the edges of melancholy, the realness and nitty-gritty humanity (I know, elves, but the word still works) behind it all. It's real, it does things to you, it's tragic and it's emotional, and without that, it just wouldn't mean the same to me. It's not all tragedy. Lavellan and Solas had a time of happiness together. That happiness just didn't last, and because of that, their time together is that much more precious and sweet.

 

Please feel free to read it if you like! I write about as quickly as a sloth moves, but our Samson works tend to be posted here on Archive.

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on Samson. It brightens my day a little each time someone sees him for the nuanced character he is. His sympathetic nature makes him an excellent antagonist, very human, very in line with the successful Dragon Age model for "villains" (Loghain, Orsino, Meredith, etc).

 

Oooooooh! I'm so going to spend my afternoon reading those. Thank you! <3

 

Awww! You're welcome, but I should be thanking you and the rest of those who appreciate what I have to say. I find joy, perhaps more than necessary, in writing out my thoughts and feelings. I'm just thankful people actually read them and don't write me off as, er, insane or something else. I just can't help but love characters like Samson, and Solas, who make me think this much and this deeply to the point where my writer senses won't let me rest until I write it out. Or, you know, that make me want to curl up in a ball with a stuffed animal because feels. So thank you. I totally agree that Samson is a fantastic basis for brilliant villains. I don't think calling them villains is right, though. They're people who made choices that defined them as villains, but who, though perhaps not entirely sane, did what they truly thought was best.

 

I have to stop now, because damn it, I can't respond to anything without turning it into an essay. 


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This will be an unpopular opionion but, I want the Inquisitor to die, the Inquisition to fall, and for a few of the companions to die. Inquisiton was very upbeat, the only downside is the fall of Haven, and even then I was like 'Oh no! Seggrit died? Let me wipe away my tears with the tissues my brand new awesome castle provides.' Jose breaks the chantry's lyrium hold with a snap of her fingers, we walk in and out of the fade without any consequences, we quick-march an army through a desert then win a siege against a fortress occupied by the best warriors on Thedas and a horde of demons, and so on. 

 

I never got the impression that my character or my companions were in danger, so I would love for that to all come crashing down. The Inquisitor can go out with a bang (I don't want a tree to fall on him or something), the Inquisition disappears, and Bioware has an excuse to make sure none of our decisions matter. 

 

Spoiler

 

Ideal death scene:

Spoiler

If a tree falls on the Inquisitor, does it make a sound?

 

 

Also, I would do the thing you allude to under the spoilers. I rewrote an alternate DLC ending a while ago:

 

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Hi everyone! I was wondering if Dorian comments on your relationship with Solas? I thought I heard that he does, but I can't find it. I wasn't able to get him to say anything last time I romanced Solas, and I didn't want to miss it this time. If he does what do I have to do so that I don't miss it? 



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It was so disappointing how little they included of elves in WoT volume 1. There's so much on humans, quanari, dwarves even ... but a page and a half on elves :(

 

edit: On top~ Can I just repost this amazing picture?

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Well the Index doesn't seem to reference that much elven god content, but maybe that's not indicative. I'd like things on dwarves and Qunari too. And beyond Thedas.

 

And nice Darth!Solas. He and Darth!Leliana can be the new Sith Lords.


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Confession time: I have yet to Hellspiral. The Solace romance is just too damn lovely for me to feel upset by it. He broke up with my Inquisitor and I was like, "Wow, that was just a beautiful scene. So lovely. Too pretty to be sad. The feels! Must watch again." Is that weird? It's probably weird.

Oh wow, it's like reading my own thoughts <3

The break-up scene is just so wonderfully done, I must have watched it a million times. Even when I experienced it for the first time, I couldn't stop admiring the beauty of this scene.. the animations, background music, dialogue, the overall atmosphere..

I'm not particularly crazy about the aggressive response though, because I'm a big softy, but the sad option.. wow..*relaunches video*


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Give me brutal, nasty, unpleasant Dalish all day every day. Give me Dalish that have flaws as deep as canyons. 

 

Iorveeeth!!!!  <3

 

Oh, sorry, wrong forum.


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Iorveeeth!!!!  <3

 

Oh, sorry, wrong forum.

 

Iorveth would make such an excellent Dalish though, let's not lie. 

 

And I would thirst over his problematic booty all day. 


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Hi everyone! I was wondering if Dorian comments on your relationship with Solas? I thought I heard that he does, but I can't find it. I wasn't able to get him to say anything last time I romanced Solas, and I didn't want to miss it this time. If he does what do I have to do so that I don't miss it? 

 

I'm not sure that he does...

 

Vivienne does, and Sera does...

 

That's about all I can think of... unless he says something in banter... though I'm not sure that happens either



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They did that with Mass Effect... And you may or may not remember how well that, er, ended. :P

 

Even if ME's ending had been a roaring success, they have done that story already. 

 

They also did it with DA2, where Hawke is just a normal person who happens to be at the center of events beyond his/her control.  And that was also super well received  :rolleyes:

 

I dunno.  Personally, I liked elements to ME3 and DA2, where you realize that the PC is not in fact superhuman.  S/he can make mistakes, and those mistakes can have terrible and unavoidable consequences.  On the other hand, there were definitely frustrating elements to it (the original ending of ME3, Thessia, not being able to do ANYTHING about Anders in Act 3...act 3's messy plotting in general).  And I think that backlash resulted in DA:I's storyline rolling back some of the experimental storytelling.  Which is a shame, since some of it was really interesting.

 

That said, I think Jaws of Hakkon did a good job of bringing it back down to earth if you chose to play it that way.

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Iorveth would make such an excellent Dalish though, let's not lie. 

 

And I would thirst over his problematic booty all day. 

 

He'd be a perfect Dalish. Just one who slices a non-elven visitor's throat as a welcome, who insults every stranger, and who sacrifices his fellow Dalish if he thinks it would gain him victory over the humans. 

But now I wonder what Iorveth would do about Dalish mages. Or about the Eluvians.


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Oh wow, it's like reading my own thoughts <3

The break-up scene is just so wonderfully done, I must have watched it a million times. Even when I experienced it for the first time, I couldn't stop admiring the beauty of this scene.. the animations, background music, dialogue, the overall atmosphere..

I'm not particularly crazy about the aggressive response though, because I'm a big softy, but the sad option.. wow..*relaunches video*

 

I thought it was so beautifully sad too. And I keep saying it, but everyone that worked on that scene, especially the writing, voice acting, and cutscene team (and motion capture) deserve so much credit. I chose the sad ending since that's what felt natural, though I plan for the angry one on my second Lavellan - the one where she's the one that walks off and leaves him there.

 

I too have watched it so many times. More than I'd probably admit outside here, but it's a special kind of well done.


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He'd be a perfect Dalish. Just one who slices a non-elven visitor's throat as a welcome, who insults every stranger, and who sacrifices his fellow Dalish if he thinks it would gain him victory over the humans. 

But now I wonder what Iorveth would do about Dalish mages. Or about the Eluvians.

 

I think they're such an integral part of that  ideal of ancient Elvhen culture that he'd probably be super into it. Iorveth would creepily make a shrine to Solas if he found out who Solas was. Not to Fen'harel. To Solas. 


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This will be an unpopular opionion but, I want the Inquisitor to die, the Inquisition to fall, and for a few of the companions to die. Inquisiton was very upbeat, the only downside is the fall of Haven, and even then I was like 'Oh no! Seggrit died? Let me wipe away my tears with the tissues my brand new awesome castle provides.' Jose breaks the chantry's lyrium hold with a snap of her fingers, we walk in and out of the fade without any consequences, we quick-march an army through a desert then win a siege against a fortress occupied by the best warriors on Thedas and a horde of demons, and so on. 

 

I do think the Inquisition will have to fall at some point. I mean, the Inquisition can't rule Thedas forever. Even the previous Inquisition came to the point when they realized they were no longer needed and disbanded.

 

I don't think I want to see everyone die. But by the end of the game, I was like, "So, the world's saved. Do we all go back to our separate lives now?"


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He'd be a perfect Dalish. Just one who slices a non-elven visitor's throat as a welcome, who insults every stranger, and who sacrifices his fellow Dalish if he thinks it would gain him victory over the humans. 

But now I wonder what Iorveth would do about Dalish mages. Or about the Eluvians.

 

Hmmm.....this gives me Tyrant Lavellan ideas...

 

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I think they're such an integral part of that  ideal of ancient Elvhen culture that he'd probably be super into it. Iorveth would creepily make a shrine to Solas if he found out who Solas was. Not to Fen'harel. To Solas. 

 

Yes. Right next to his Fen'Harel shrine, which he'd already have had for years. A god who betrayed the other gods and locked them away, thus rising against suppression in his desire to help the elves reclaim their power and strength? Iorveth would be all into that. He's probably be the first to dress in a wolf pelt as a sign of adoration.


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Yes. Right next to his Fen'Harel shrine, which he'd already have had for years. A god who betrayed the other gods and locked them away, thus rising against suppression in his desire to help the elves reclaim their power and strength? Iorveth would be all into that. He's probably be the first to dress in a wolf pelt as a sign of adoration.

 

Felassan already has the position of Fen'Harel fanboy locked up.

 

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Felassan already has the position of Fen'Harel fanboy locked up.

 

Felassan has the wee problem of

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Felassan has the wee problem of

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See edit. ha!



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I'm not sure that he does...

 

Vivienne does, and Sera does...

 

That's about all I can think of... unless he says something in banter... though I'm not sure that happens either

Thank you! That explains why I couldn't get him to say anything.