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I hope this doesn't come off as me being defensive or even arguing at all. I was just explaining my reasons. Both decisions are absolutely wonderful, and I'm happy for either one. 

 

Nope, you're fine!  One of the things I love about Cole's quest is how there's no right answer.  Sometimes you can tell in BioWare games what you're "supposed" to pick, and Cole's quest doesn't do that.  It's really well written.

 

 

I never take Varric for Hawke's death. I just can't handle his reaction to that scene.

 

Like I said, I've never felt worse in a video game.  Killing Hawke wasn't that bad.  Having to talk to Varric afterwords left me in tears.


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Also, Solas would likely inflict me with a Solas Disapproves over my consumption of this bottle of iced green tea, but I don't give a damn. 

 

No, Solas. I will not give up my tea consumption for you. Sorry.

 

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Bring on the disapproval! 


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I never take Varric for Hawke's death. I just can't handle his reaction to that scene.

Out of curiosity, does anyone have a playthrough were Varric isn't Hawke's bff? Does Varric react any differently to Hawke being killed in this case?



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Like I said, I've never felt worse in a video game.  Killing Hawke wasn't that bad.  Having to talk to Varric afterwords left me in tears.

 

Talking to Varric afterwards is a really beautiful and touching scene. I do love that.

 

But the moment when you walk out of the Fade and Varric asks where Hawke is and his speechlessness when you tell him? Nope. Nope, can't do it. Breaks my heart.

 

​I have some apologizing to do to Fenris too, but that's what fanfic is for.


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But the moment when you walk out of the Fade and Varric asks where Hawke is and his speechlessness when you tell him? Nope. Nope, can't do it. Breaks my heart.

 

I've never left Hawke behind because I'm too scared to face that scene. I just watched it on youtube and… nope. nope nope nope.

I need to go hug my cat for a bit.



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I'm deliberating whether or not to leave Hawke in the Fade when I do a third canon Solas romance playthrough. I'm just thankful Alistair is king and I don't have to deal with my Hero of Ferelden going psycho murderess on my Quizzy if I chose to leave Alistair. Because she would, and it would be bad. Instead, I have Stroud. Fenris, though... I don't know that I can do that to Fenris. I love my puppy-eyed emo elf, and breaking him through losing Hawke is an atrocity that hurts me. He might go massacre-making mode, might not when I consider a headcanon of mine. Furthermore, I'm also incredibly attached to my sarcastic Hawke - more than my Hero of Ferelden, even. She's just wonderful, and I adore her to stitches, but at the same time... Damn it, I love the essence of such an end; of such a story with poetic, angsty revelation. It gets me in all the right places, both as a dramatics, angst, and emotional feels lover, and as a writer. 


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Out of curiosity, does anyone have a playthrough were Varric isn't Hawke's bff? Does Varric react any differently to Hawke being killed in this case?

 

Mine were rivals - there was no difference. However, it was also an aggressive Hawke, so that version in particular of the "Hawke just had that effect on people" story still felt like it fit, to me. Maybe it was just inconceivable that many people would rival Varric of all people ;) Still, I imagine the differences would have been minor, anyway. Rivalry still impacted people and earned respect.



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I've never left Hawke behind because I'm too scared to face that scene. I just watched it on youtube and… nope. nope nope nope.

I need to go hug my cat for a bit.

 

This is exactly why Varric stays behind when Hawke is left in the Fade. I just can't handle it.



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I like Solas' dialogue in angry version better. But I also prefer his "What we have was real" dialogue at the end, and you need the sad version for that.

 

I play my Lavellan as a very flirty, humorous sort and so when Solas breaks up with her I like to choose the "sad puppy" version because the suddenness of it left her walls down and she over exposed her feelings...she has a massive cry & berates herself later about it.  Is it also really, really horrible of me that I like the "I love you" dialogue because I know it probably hurts more for Solas too?  Yea, I'm probably awful but there it is.

 

It really is quite cool that Patrick Weekes included so many variable dialogues during the breakup.  You have sad/sad, angry/angry, resigned/resigned, and every mix in-between.


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I've never left Hawke behind because I'm too scared to face that scene. I just watched it on youtube and… nope. nope nope nope.

I need to go hug my cat for a bit.

 

I had to stop playing and called my BFF in tears.  She had King Alistair, so for her it was Stroud and Hawke when I had Warden!Alistair and Hawke.  And she was like, "Man, you just can't catch a break."  And there were definitely kitty hugs involved.

 

I figured my Hawke would die young.  She was too far on the Anders crazy train to live a peaceful life.  But it's one thing to know that in the back of your head, and another thing to send your own PC to her death and watch the fallout.  I need my Lavellan to live; I don't think I'll be sacrificing another PC any time soon, even if it did make a great story.


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But...but...but... I'm a weak, weak girl for adorableness and fluffiness and sweetness and always for my precious Cole.

 

"Gentle. You watch me walk into darkness over and over, and you always worry. Thank you."

 

I can't... I just... It hurts me so beautifully, and sends me spiraling into the overwhelming urge to hug my baby Cole. I cry at that after scene every. Time.

 

Plus, I'm not sure I could live with myself and the guilt of Varric's, "He could have been a person".

 

Overemotional weirdo, did I mention that? 

 

 

Edit: Grammar. Fingers. 

 

Going with Cole to Val Royeaux after choosing the spirit path for him, he's so light and happy, and 'free' that it just reinforced that decision for me. My Lavellan listened to both of them but decided to go ahead and trust Solas on this. But it was also her, and my, decision. It felt like the right thing to do to me.

 

This whole quest was also emotional for me and it comes back now that I've been reading Asunder.


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My Lavellan is all about not changing for anyone so she's not about to make Cole change for Varric.  He's a spirit and he's going to stay one.  She's not giving up her vallaslin for Solas, either.  She told Dorian he was right about his dad being an ass, too, and they blew him off to go get drunk at the tavern, instead.

 

Well, mine didn't give up her vallaslin for Solas, she told him to take them away for her, because she has grown and learned more, and her knowledge is more grounded than it was in the past, because she trusted that he was telling her the truth knowing he speaks of freedom and values it, because she considered this, at this point in her life, to be a new start.

 

 


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I had to stop playing and called my BFF in tears.  She had King Alistair, so for her it was Stroud and Hawke when I had Warden!Alistair and Hawke.  And she was like, "Man, you just can't catch a break."  And there were definitely kitty hugs involved.

 

I also had Hawke and Stroud, so when people kept talking about some super difficult, heartbreaking decision, I was like....huh? Then I figured it out based on something I read and realized that Alistair could be your Warden contact.


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I was less of a fan of Varric this time around.  I get the character change and it made perfect sense with what he went through, but I just...eh.  It's not that I didn't feel bad for him, but I had a hard time being super broken up over Hawke. Also, I've never felt too attached to Hawke. It felt more like BW's character - which is fine - but it was a character that I was not particularly fond of.  So it was a seriously easy decision to leave her in the Fade.  On my Trev PT, she is alive and Stroud died.  


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I was less of a fan of Varric this time around. I get the character change and it made perfect sense with what he went through, but I just...eh. It's not that I didn't feel bad for him, but I had a hard time being super broken up over Hawke. Also, I've never felt too attached to Hawke. It felt more like BW's character - which is fine - but it was a character that I was not particularly fond of. So it was a seriously easy decision to leave her in the Fade. On my Trev PT, she is alive and Stroud died.

This. I'm a proud member of the loghain preservation society. The only way the choice would have been difficult, is if I was choosing between Loghain, and a robot posing as Loghain.

I saved hawke once in a Stroud playthrough, but didn't finish it.
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I had no troubles leaving Hawke in the Fade, but I did like ... that version, the modded one. The other one I liked the story, but the character herself I didn't have a lot of respect (does that word even apply?) for, and I have no particular attachment to. Nightmare Hawke I would definitely rival-respect, but consequently have no trouble leaving in the Fade because, well, I have trouble believing the seven-story spider comes out on top in that scenario.

 

That said, even if that were the case, I have enough trouble with developing emotional attachment to real humans. I have no particular problem with things that happen to fictional ones (all the talk of tears on this thread is like academic interest! Imagine me as Data, trying very hard and with great interest to understand), unless it is done badly - in which case it's more like a "you fumbled it!" than a "noooooooo!"


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Oh hey, art! :D

 

Solavellan stuff:

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Nice Fen'Harel sketch.

 

Nice artwork of the DAI companions minus Varric and Vivienne.

 

Solas and Zevran sketch.


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A couple more Solas Art

 

http://pendragon677....-Wolf-527534406

 

http://gummiberri.de...-Lost-527480191


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hehehe..I love that Capricorn posted art the same time I did.  Great minds.... 


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Oooh! I really like this one. The look in his eyes... Yeah, Solas, you contemplate on what you just did. :P


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 That said, even if that were the case, I have enough trouble with developing emotional attachment to real humans. I have no particular problem with things that happen to fictional ones (all the talk of tears on this thread is like academic interest! Imagine me as Data, trying very hard and with great interest to understand), unless it is done badly - in which case it's more like a "you fumbled it!" than a "noooooooo!"

 

Tears over fictional stuff all the time checking in. :P  I feel things very deeply. I even have song triggers that I know will ALWAYS bring me to tears. There are about three or four of those. I think about two or three people know which ones those are. Boyfriend teases me with one of them sometimes. He's quite a troll.

 

 If I am hormonal enough, I've been known to cry at movie trailers.


edit: I may have also just rewatched the Solas sad breakup again.


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This. I'm a proud member of the loghain preservation society. The only way the choice would have been difficult, is if I was choosing between Loghain, and a robot posing as Loghain.

I saved hawke once in a Stroud playthrough, but didn't finish it.

I'm still a little sore over the Architect but I'm feeling generous tonight- SOURCE

 

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If I am hormonal enough, I've been known to cry at movie trailers.

 

But seriously though, are you me? Because I do this. I get sooooo emotional in movies it's ridiculous. And if my hormones are acting up then basically anything can set me off; a few bars of sad piano music, adorable animals, film trailers. Once I cried because my friends hair looked really nice in a photo. I can't make this **** up.


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But seriously though, are you me? Because I do this. I get sooooo emotional in movies it's ridiculous. And if my hormones are acting up then basically anything can set me off; a few bars of sad piano music, adorable animals, film trailers. Once I cried because my friends hair looked really nice in a photo. I can't make this **** up.

 

Ha, same, really. I also find myself crying at the same moments in things I've seen so many times. Like....you've seen this 10 times already.....WHY is this necessary again?

 

 

Okay, I'm going to reveal one of my song tear triggers because, while not exactly thematically applicable to the end of Solavellan/the game's aftermath, it was also one of my initial hellspiral songs.

 


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How and when do we get this dialogue?


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