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I really hate to be that person especially since you put so much thought into this...but:

 

Elvhen (EHL-vehn): "Our People". Elven name for their own race

 

http://dragonage.wik.../Elven_language

 

Sorry :(

oh i know it means the people

 

i mean the base word

 

just like "vir abelasan" in chunks means "way sorrowplace" but is translated to us as "the well of sorrows"

 

like you would read "breakfast" as one word, meaning the first meal of the day

 

but in chunks it means to break your fast

 

or "vhenan' means heart but it's "place of [whatever vhen means]"

 

and also all of this made perfect sense to me at 3 in the morning but now i'm having a hard time articulating it


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Other than World of Thedas vol 2 and Jaws of Hakkon releasing on 3 more platforms in a couple of weeks, (just nearly wrote a couple of weekes - ha), there IS nothing. A lot of the WoT2 spec is in character threads, but some of it is spread out. I don't think we'll get any real hints at the future until after JoH is out for everyone.

Speaking of which, anyone besides me purchasing the Bioware exclusive edition of World of Thedas volume 2? 

Pretty excited it's shipping in about a week :3 


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Essentially, Abelas was just being a snob. :P That's how I took it. Also considering how he said Elvhen and how he looked at Solas, who responded with Elvhen as well.

 

Elvhen vs

 

Elven - the diluted mortal shell that you people are today.

Yeah. That's how I took it as well.  And that's when my spidey senses were tingling with Solas. Something was up.  And SOMETHING was up. 


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oh i know it means the people

 

i mean the base word

 

just like "vir abelasan" in chunks means "way sorrowplace" but is translated to us as "the well of sorrows"

 

like you would read "breakfast" as one word, meaning the first meal of the day

 

but in chunks it means to break your fast

 

or "vhenan' means heart but it's "place of [whatever vhen means]"

 

and also all of this made perfect sense to me at 3 in the morning but now i'm having a hard time articulating it

El (EHL): our.

Vhen (VEHN): "people of" or "belonging to the elves, the clans, elven society"

-An (AHN): suffix indicating place or location

 

http://dragonage.wik.../Elven_language


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Speaking of which, anyone besides me purchasing the Bioware exclusive edition of World of Thedas volume 2? 

Pretty excited it's shipping in about a week :3 

I am. Very excited.  Mostly they ahd the cute children's book to go with it. 


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Yeah. That's how I took it as well.  And that's when my spidey senses were tingling with Solas. Something was up.  And SOMETHING was up. 

 

"Elvhen such as you."

 

"Such as I."

 

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El (EHL): our.

Vhen (VEHN): "people of" or "belonging to the elves, the clans, elven society"

-An (AHN): suffix indicating place or location

 

http://dragonage.wik.../Elven_language

and there goes all my dreams~

 

i'm still firmly in the "elves are spirits wearing meat suits" camp but you're right and i have read the language codex, and my pet theories are just making me read more into the spelling variation than is probably warranted


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and there goes all my dreams~

 

i'm still firmly in the "elves are spirits wearing meat suits" camp but you're right and i have read the language codex, and my pet theories are just making me read more into the spelling variation than is probably warranted

Sorry >.>

 

If this were any other fandom, that analysis on the language would work. unfortunately, the way elven is set up is pretty poor, imo. (I'm probably just spoiled by Tolkien.)

 

I'm actually in total agreement with you on the elves were spirits like Cole thing. 


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Sorry >.>

 

If this were any other fandom, that analysis on the language would work. unfortunately, the way elven is set up is pretty poor, imo. (I'm probably just spoiled by Tolkien.)

 

I'm actually in total agreement with you on the elves were spirits like Cole thing. 

i know right? why are they so set on making these ridiculous word compounds rather than expanding the vocabulary?

 

their word for bow means "arrow thrower"

 

or wait i guess i just answered my own question, they want to keep the vocabulary small and manageable and keep the grammatical rules loose so they don't have to spend inordinate amounts of time double checking a fictional language

 

but while we're on the topic, should def check out fenxshiral's tumblr

 

"project elvhen" is their attempt to flesh out the language with extrapolation of canon words and some new ones that are really well thought out

 

plus if you ever have a hard time deciding what to name your elf pc, i believe they take requests to translate meanings into names for you which is super rad and useful



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i know right? why are they so set on making these ridiculous word compounds rather than expanding the vocabulary?

 

their word for bow means "arrow thrower"

The way they have the language set up...it's a cipher. A literal 1 to 1 translation of "this" means "that". Mary Kirby just makes up individual words when a new word is needed. I think that's why they'd rather stretch old words into new contortions rather than continue to add new. 


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i know right? why are they so set on making these ridiculous word compounds rather than expanding the vocabulary?

 

their word for bow means "arrow thrower"

 

I actually quite like the word compounds. And I like how poetic it is as a language, with so much of the meaning being dependent on context.

 

I just wish they'd been more consistent with it since, as many people have pointed out, there are times when elves say things that aren't even technically correct, based on the language guidelines given. But, I guess that's going to happen when you're constructing a 'language' ad hoc. And when your 'language' is really just a cipher, which makes sense from a game development point of view, not so much otherwise...


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Side note,

 

I just finished "In Hushed Whispers."

 

I've said it multiple times, but it deserves saying again.

 

Leliana is a BAMF

 

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oh i know it means the people
 
i mean the base word
 
just like "vir abelasan" in chunks means "way sorrowplace" but is translated to us as "the well of sorrows"
 
like you would read "breakfast" as one word, meaning the first meal of the day
 
but in chunks it means to break your fast
 
and also all of this made perfect sense to me at 3 in the morning but now i'm having a hard time articulating it


I interpret it as being the fantasy version of the Welsh language, except in this case it literally seems like you require some level of magic to fully comprehend it.

That, and just like Welsh only a small group of people understand/speak it.
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I want the Bioware edition of World of Thedas so badly, but it's rather pricey. I'll have to settle for the regular version instead. Poor me. 

 

Also, slowly fulfilling those prompt requests: http://archiveofouro...g/works/3784564


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The way they have the language set up...it's a cipher. A literal 1 to 1 translation of "this" means "that". Mary Kirby just makes up individual words when a new word is needed. I think that's why they'd rather stretch old words into new contortions rather than continue to add new. 

makes sense, although it's not very satisfying

 

i really wanted it to be one of those "see! we were planning this all along!" moments

 

I actually quite like the word compounds. And I like how poetic it is as a language, with so much of the meaning being dependent on context.

 

I just wish they'd been more consistent with it since, as many people have pointed out, there are times when elves say things that aren't even technically correct, based on the language guidelines given. But, I guess that's going to happen when you're constructing a 'language' ad hoc. And when your 'language' is really just a cipher, which makes sense from a game development point of view, not so much otherwise...

that's actually an excellent point, and the consistency of a language almost no one is going to read into is probably way down on their list of priorities

 

the voice actors are a big part of it, GDL's lines sound a lot more natural than some of the npcs who sound like they're reading it off a page. plus the rhythm he speaks in, which was weekes' doing, who we have already established is awesome.

 

I interpret it as being the fantasy version of the Welsh language, except in this case it literally seems like you require some level of magic to fully comprehend it.

That, and just like Welsh only a small group of people understand/speak it.

i can't believe welsh is a real thing, i'm not entirely convinced it isn't an elaborate joke all the people in wales are just very committed to


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Just want to make sure people have seen this - 

http://www.scattered.../DAPrompts.html


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Just want to make sure people have seen this - 

http://www.scattered.../DAPrompts.html

 

Just got:

 

Felix Alexius & Avernus


*backs away*

 

 

edit: Oh dear Maker, I am dying

 

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Just want to make sure people have seen this - 

http://www.scattered.../DAPrompts.html

 

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what am i even reading?!!??


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Just want to make sure people have seen this - 

http://www.scattered.../DAPrompts.html

 

7ewTEk8.png

 

omfg


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#97445
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7ewTEk8.png

 

omfg

the stallion and the bull, two world weary but virile warriors find solace in each others arms

 

beautiful


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:lol:

 

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*raises hand* It was me. One of my earliest hellspiral songs. It came on with my alarm in the morning soon after I finished and it stuck with me, like damn it just fits multiple stages.

 

I haven't made videos in forever but I too would like to make one to this song. 

 

I can't tell you how many times I've listened to this song on repeat and just jammed out to it. 

 

 

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I can't tell you how many times I've listened to this song on repeat and just jammed out to it. 

 

 

Spoiler

 

Wait, are you me?

 

At one point I was kind of listening to this a few times a day. Along with the DAI tavern songs and a lot of k.d. lang after reading that writers' music blog.



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pffft I have no idea how to post these but

                             

 

                             Sloth Demon    &   Duncan   

 

                                                                                 in a chat room

 

 

 

 


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#97450
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:lol:

 

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post break up solas rolls up to the rose, after a few moments deliberation between jethann and serendipity, they head upstairs

 

solas gives jethann the spare set of beige pajamas he stole from your room and then he cries all night, roleplaying how your life together could have gone while holding jethann's butt.


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