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[RebbyWriter]

Patrick Weekes ‏@PatrickWeekes 4m4 minutes ago

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. LEGO ships built studs-not-on-top. I watched Solas fan-art glitter atop the bookshelves.

 

[Heidirs]

Okay, I stayed up late for this, but I'm finally done with my fanart of Aicosu's Message Sent fic! Spoilered for size.

 

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http://sunnyartthing...ellan-modern-au

 

 

And now, I bid you all goodnight!

 

I do love this. I hope you share it with the author. She was linking to all the fanart in one of her previous chapters. 

[Kestrel]

Weekes has seen all of your naked Solas fan art. 

 

Also, random question, but are we ever given the clan name for the clan that's chilling in the Exalted Plains? I can't seem to find it if so. 

[Sable Rhapsody]

Weekes has seen all of your naked Solas fan art. 

 

Also, random question, but are we ever given the clan name for the clan that's chilling in the Exalted Plains? I can't seem to find it if so. 

 

I don't think we ever got their Clan name, just their Keeper's name.

[Giton]

 

Patrick Weekes ‏@PatrickWeekes 4m4 minutes ago

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. LEGO ships built studs-not-on-top. I watched Solas fan-art glitter atop the bookshelves.

 

 

I see the word "glitter," everything else is white noise.

[Armdin]

Weekes has seen all of your naked Solas fan art. 

 

I would absolutely love to see, from an objective standpoint, what Weekes thinks of all the naked Solas* fan art. x) I doubt he'd express an opinion even if asked, but it'd be interesting... Probably along the lines of, "Oh. My. God." at the kindest. xD

 

* Hell, naked any character he's written, but keepin' it on topic!

 

Edit because I don't have grammar today.

[Armdin]

Giton, may I say your Architect-octopus-thingy icon is my favourite of the series yet? ^^

[Giton]

Giton, may I say your Architect-octopus-thingy icon is my favourite of the series yet? ^^

Thank you, Meer created the Tentatect, High Sea Creature of Beauty.

[Kestrel]

I would absolutely love to see, from an objective standpoint, what Weekes thinks of all the naked Solas* fan art. x) I doubt he'd express an opinion even if asked, but it'd be interesting... Probably along the lines of, "Oh. My. God." at the kindest. xD

 

* Hell, naked any character he's written, but keepin' it on topic!

 

Edit because I don't have grammar today.

 

I have to imagine it would be a sense of being simultaneously flattered and horrified. 

 

Also, thanks Sable! I need it for this latest chapter... So I guess I have to make up a clan name for them. 

[Armdin]

Thank you, Meer created the Tentatect, High Sea Creature of Beauty.

 

He looks so happy!

[phaonica]

Random question. Does anyone have flycam footage of the fade when you are trying to find Kieran? I tried looking for the black city but I can't find it...and I don't have flycam. Idk I just want to see where it is.

 

I've flown all over the place in there and I don't know where it's supposed to be. There are a lot of distant or floating towers but nothing that looks to me like something obvious enough to be certain that it's the Black City.

[nikki-tikki]

I see the word "glitter," everything else is white noise.

Same. Especially considering he and Karen both like my art.

[Heidirs]

I made a thing! I don't know if it will make the final cut (and the resolution is bugging me), but this is the only part of my playthrough I have recorded right now and it's going to take about 100 hours to get the rest of it and I wanted to play really badly. So here you go, for your amusement:

 

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[Giton]

He looks so happy!

He's thinking: 'Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all

    Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.'

 

Then he is meeting Tenthius for drinks with little umbrellas in them.

[Sable Rhapsody]

My theory is they're trying to make the Dalish the biggest jerks possible so the players will feel as smug as possible when we tear them down.

 

I mean, between the Sabre Clan being retconned from fairly likable if wary of outsiders DAO to intensely, violently, murderously bigoted against anything different (like Merrill) in DA2, and the "magic is revered as part of the elves' lost heritage and mages are treated like just another member of the clan if they aren't leaders" in DA2 being retconned to "only 3 mages per clan and any more either get dumped on another clan or left to die in the wilderness," I feel like the devs WANT players to hate them. 

 

I chose to interpret the 3 mages per clan rule as being dominant in Orlais, not necessarily among all the Dalish.  Even Solas admits that Dalish clans vary wildly in their customs, and I could see the Dalish in Orlais being more wary of the templars and less willing to risk their attention with too many mages, since Orlais is the heart of the Chantry.  Lavellan says that her clan would never kick out a mage.  It's likely that Clan Lavellan's policy of moving between the city states' territories in the Marches protected them from templar reprisals.

 

Honestly, if they're trying to make me hate the Dalish, I don't think they're doing a very good job  I liked them least in DA:O when I found them a little boring and generic.  The more we learn about them, the more interesting they become to me, and the more I like them.  Flaws and all.  That's not to say I always like how they're written or implemented (the clan in Masked Empire comes to mind).

[phosphene]

I chose to interpret the 3 mages per clan rule as being dominant in Orlais, not necessarily among all the Dalish.  Even Solas admits that Dalish clans vary wildly in their customs, and I could see the Dalish in Orlais being more wary of the templars and less willing to risk their attention with too many mages, since Orlais is the heart of the Chantry.  Lavellan says that her clan would never kick out a mage.  It's likely that Clan Lavellan's policy of moving between the city states' territories in the Marches protected them from templar reprisals.

 

Honestly, if they're trying to make me hate the Dalish, I don't think they're doing a very good job  I liked them least in DA:O when I found them a little boring and generic.  The more we learn about them, the more interesting they become to me, and the more I like them.  Flaws and all.  That's not to say I always like how they're written or implemented (the clan in Masked Empire comes to mind).

I'm totally letting them slide on the way the dalish were portrayed this time around

 

they're clearly just trying to cover some plot holes and i'd rather they made the attempt than simply never address the fact that this whole mage dilemma they spent sooooo much time on can be immediately negated by one single inconvenient example

 

so for the sake of the story i'm just going to look the other way and pretend that this is how it's always been

 

 

 

very minor and tangential dlc spoiler

 

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i was thinking about spirit things and making myself sad after the dlc dealt with all this benevolent possession stuff

 

maybe that's what solas wants to do?

 

he doesn't relate to modern elves because they're just empty mortal shells (abelas calls them "shadows")

 

but forcing them to be taken over by spirits would make them magic-y and immortal again and cure their ignorance and give them the ability to restore the empire

 

 

and that's why he can't have a relationship with you because you're just a shell

 

"you're real and it means everyone could be real, it changes everything but it can't"

 

because if he admits to himself that he loves you, an empty mortal shell, then he has to admit that his world view is wrong and he hates doing that

 

but he can't keep dating you and continue with his plan to force a spirit into your body because you'll loose your selfness

 

 

which i think is where this whole theory falls apart pretty badly

 

he is very much against the subjugation of free willed intelligent beings and i don't think he'd force the entire race to undergo possession just to fix his mistakes even if it were for their own good

 

but on the other hand he is also a huge hypocrite and pretty desperate

 

 

and also it would be hard to implement game wise

 

if they offered you the choice, posses elves or don't posses elves, the don't option would be pretty easy you'd just have to kill solas

 

but if you went along with it how would you demonstrate that in game? especially if your pc is an elf? besides some minor role playing dialogue options

 

and how could you justify making that decision if you, like the majority of players, are playing as a human?

 

and do you get to pick the spirit that enters your body? because i don't want to end up with something lame like chastity or prudence or something

 

 

also sera and fenris would loose their nuggets

 

[nikki-tikki]

I guess. I just feel like the devs are pushing the whole, "SURPRISE! Elvhenan wasn't the great utopia the Dalish think and ancient elves were just as big a jerks as Tevinter and the Orlesians!" when I don't think it's either surprising or soul-crushing since the Dalish fully admit they know next to nothing about their past, and are trying to recover it.

 

 

My theory is they're trying to make the Dalish the biggest jerks possible so the players will feel as smug as possible when we tear them down.

 

I mean, between the Sabre Clan being retconned from fairly likable if wary of outsiders DAO to intensely, violently, murderously bigoted against anything different (like Merrill) in DA2, and the "magic is revered as part of the elves' lost heritage and mages are treated like just another member of the clan if they aren't leaders" in DA2 being retconned to "only 3 mages per clan and any more either get dumped on another clan or left to die in the wilderness," I feel like the devs WANT players to hate them. 

 

The Dalish were wrong. The Andrastians were wrong. The Qun is wrong. Everyone is wrong. 

 

K bye.

[DarthEmpress]

I would absolutely love to see, from an objective standpoint, what Weekes thinks of all the naked Solas* fan art. x) I doubt he'd express an opinion even if asked, but it'd be interesting... Probably along the lines of, "Oh. My. God." at the kindest. xD

 

* Hell, naked any character he's written, but keepin' it on topic!

 

Edit because I don't have grammar today.

 

He's totally into all the naked Solas fanart just becaue it makes him want even more fan tears.  Ahahaha look at all the naked Solas, they want him so bad so I'm going to do something dastardly to him, yessir~

 

[Cee]

The Dalish were wrong. The Andrastians were wrong. The Qun is wrong. Everyone is wrong. 

 

K bye.

[Cee]

He's totally into all the naked Solas fanart just becaue it makes him want even more fan tears.  Ahahaha look at all the naked Solas, they want him so bad so I'm going to do something dastardly to him, yessir~

 

 

 

Fan tears and chocolate covered espresso beans fuel this man.

 

Can't we borrow Cole to peek inside Weekes' head for a moment?

[Sable Rhapsody]

I'm glad it doesn't work on you, but it works on plenty of others. I wouldn't even really mind except I feel like the devs want players to hate them, and go out of their way to portray them as even more unsympathetic and unlikable with every new piece of media. (The Masked Empire being the worst so far, and DAI being not that much better since both elven companions are firmly anti-Dalish, and that horrible "Only 3 mages per clan and any excess gets dumped on another clan or left to die" retcon.) 

 

"It all comes back to intention," my sister always says. If I didn't feel it was the devs' intention to make people hate the Dalish, I wouldn't be bothered by it.

 

I dunno, I'm always hesitant to ascribe intention to the developers; after all, I don't know anything about them as people or the development culture in which they work.  Game storytelling is a complicated and collaborative process, and sometimes the individuals who work on the game aren't even aware of trends that may be unconsciously turning up in their writing.  They don't have a master plan of what the final product is going to look like when it all comes together.  The dead ex/deadbeat dad thing that was in a lot of the female LIs, for example, was completely unintentional.  A little obnoxious and maybe even obvious to the fans, but unintentional.

 

As for the lack of Dalish representation, I'm willing to at least give Sera a pass.  She's not so much anti-Dalish as anti-everything that disrupts her nice comfortable worldview: Corypheus, Mythal, the Dalish, the ancient elvhen, etc.  And that's fine.  That's part of who she is, even if it makes me want to strangle her sometimes 

[Elessara]

The Masked Empire being the worst so far, and DAI being not that much better since both elven companions are firmly anti-Dalish 

 

 

Just quoting this bit as this is all I'm responding too atm really ...

 

Sera isn't so much anti-Dalish as she's anti-elven.  Anything to do with elves she pretty much hates.  I honestly think she hates herself a bit because she's an elf.  She insults city elves, dalish elves, anything to do with elven culture.  She's really kind of racist.  And a hypocrite.  She says people should be people and treated the same but she kinda means that people should be treated the same except for elves, they should be mocked.

 

Apologies for the mini-rant about Sera.

 

Anyway, I don't hate the dalish.  I found some of them in DAO and DA2 to be rude and arrogant .. but once you talk to them a bit and if you're polite, the ones that were rude tended to relax and be polite back.  And it's understandable given the way a lot of humans treat them.  So I try to cut the dalish some slack.

 

The writers/devs just seem to like killing off entire clans wholesale.  You can kill Zathrian's clan in DAO, you can kill Merrill's clan in DA2, you can get Lavellan's clan killed off in DAI.  I haven't read Masked Empire but I hear a clan gets killed off there.  I rather wish they'd stop killing off clans left and right.

[Cee]

You can get clans killed but it also sometimes underscores the nomadic and isolated nature of Dalish life. There's a certain vulnerability in that sort of stubborn isolation. Not that killing entire clans wholesale is the best thing, but because they're made up of a group of people living together under rules, if the are going to be killed, it's likely to be most of them at once. Leaving a handful of survivors or one or two is not an unlikely scenario in this context.