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YAY HARRY POTTER!! :D I'm so excited for Fantastic Beasts next year!!!!!!

 

I was in two giant Harry Potter communities on LiveJournal way back when and one sorted me into Ravenclaw while the other sorted me into Gryffindor and it was a ball of awesome cosmic energies in all our canon personalities. So I just consider myself a Gryffinclaw XD


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YAY HARRY POTTER!! :D I'm so excited for Fantastic Beasts next year!!!!!!

 

I was in two giant Harry Potter communities on LiveJournal way back when and one sorted me into Ravenclaw while the other sorted me into Gryffindor and it was a ball of awesome cosmic energies in all our canon personalities. So I just consider myself a Gryffinclaw XD

 

Embrace your Ravenclaw side!  We have books and learning!


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Embrace your Ravenclaw side!  We have books and learning!

Oh I very much do! And I love how creative my fellow ravens are. Plus, knowledge is power *maniacal lion laughter*



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accidental double post.

 

Here have a Solas art to make up for it: SOURCE.

 

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So the forums are messing with me, what I thought was a double post turned out not to be a double post. (it is now though)

 

Anyway, I am happy to see other Ravenclaws, that's the house I always get sorted into as well. :)


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Oh I very much do! And I love how creative my fellow ravens are. Plus, knowledge is power *maniacal lion laughter*

 

That sounds like Slytherin talk!



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You've got to get back to Hogwarts, get back to school!

Get back to Hogwarts where everything is magical-cooooool!

Back to witches and wizards and magical beasts

To goblins and ghosts and and magical feasts!

 

Why am I perpetually out of likes. I like this.

 

YAY HARRY POTTER!!  :D I'm so excited for Fantastic Beasts next year!!!!!!

 

I was in two giant Harry Potter communities on LiveJournal way back when and one sorted me into Ravenclaw while the other sorted me into Gryffindor and it was a ball of awesome cosmic energies in all our canon personalities. So I just consider myself a Gryffinclaw XD

 

AAH ME TOO.

 

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And to be entirely random but on topic, does anyone know what Solas says to a max disapproval Inquisitor at the end of the game when he departs? Does he just fail to say anything at all?


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Why am I perpetually out of likes. I like this.

 

Just in case you thought I wrote that - it's from A Very Potter Musical.  Which is amazing and everyone should watch.



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And to be entirely random but on topic, does anyone know what Solas says to a max disapproval Inquisitor at the end of the game when he departs? Does he just fail to say anything at all?

 

I love how it's called the "Solas hates you version." But not much dialogue haha. He just bounces.



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I'm rather late to the discussion, but I'm Hufflepuff. With the quizzes, I could count on them giving me Gryffindor or Hufflepuff every time, with an occasional Ravenclaw. However, Pottermore sorted me into Hufflepuff. Every. Time. I took the quiz multiples times on different accounts I made to be sure. So I just took that as the tiebreaker and accepted that I was Hufflepuff. I wanted to be Gryffindor, if I'm honest, but now I've come to accept it, and am now a happy, fluffy Hufflepuff.


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Just in case you thought I wrote that - it's from A Very Potter Musical.  Which is amazing and everyone should watch.

 

I had no idea what it was from, but I've now watched the first act on YouTube. I think I must be too sleepy to appreciate it right now. I'll try again later. ;)

 

 

I love how it's called the "Solas hates you version." But not much dialogue haha. He just bounces.

 

Ha! He's just like, nah. I'm out. Cold, Solas.


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With all the talk of Regency!Solas going on, I thought people would be interested in the Regency-style Arlathan dancing I found:

 

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*perks head up* Did somebody mention Hogwarts Houses?! :D

 

Unfortunately, it's hard to tell because we aren't our most objective judges of character, and the Sorting Hat doesn't really sort people based on their overall personality anyway. Otherwise Hermione would have gone into Ravenclaw on account of her cleverness and love of learning, and Neville would have gone into Hufflepuff on account of his loyal and hardworking personality. It sorted them based on that small spark of courage that only would be been nurtured in a Gryffindor environment. (It seems to sort people based on where it thinks they'll best grow, thrive, and succeed.)

 

That said, Pottermore sorted me into Slytherin on my first go, and everyone who has ever met me has said I'm the ANTI-Slytherin. (Not cunning, not ambitious, neither have nor want "friends in the right places," don't believe in that "pure blood" nonsense, etc.) I'm probably a toss between Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw. Most quizzes I've taken have sorted me into Ravenclaw, though that might be subconscious quizzing on my part.

 

I also think of Solas as Ravenclaw because, at the end of the day, he still values and believes in seeking wisdom and knowledge for its own sake. Sure, he was a cocky, hot-blooded fighter in his youth (with Sirius shades of James Potter), and he does betray a cunning and ambitious underside (locking away the Old Gods in the past and trying to correct his mistakes in the present), but he seems he would be happier returning to the Fade to seek out ancient secrets in peaceful solitude, rather than trying to use them to amass power or influence.



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*perks head up* Did somebody mention Hogwarts Houses?! :D

 

Unfortunately, it's hard to tell because we aren't our most objective judges of character, and the Sorting Hat doesn't really sort people based on their overall personality anyway. Otherwise Hermione would have gone into Ravenclaw on account of her cleverness and love of learning, and Neville would have gone into Hufflepuff on account of his loyal and hardworking personality. It sorted them based on that small spark of courage that only would be been nurtured in a Gryffindor environment. (It seems to sort people based on where it thinks they'll best grow, thrive, and succeed.)

 

That said, Pottermore sorted me into Slytherin on my first go, and everyone who has ever met me has said I'm the ANTI-Slytherin. (Not cunning, not ambitious, neither have nor want "friends in the right places," don't believe in that "pure blood" nonsense, etc.) I'm probably a toss between Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw. Most quizzes I've taken have sorted me into Ravenclaw, though that might be subconscious quizzing on my part.

 

I also think of Solas as Ravenclaw because, at the end of the day, he still values and believes in seeking wisdom and knowledge for its own sake. Sure, he was a cocky, hot-blooded fighter in his youth (with Sirius shades of James Potter), and he does betray a cunning and ambitious underside (locking away the Old Gods in the past and trying to correct his mistakes in the present), but he seems he would be happier returning to the Fade to seek out ancient secrets in peaceful solitude, rather than trying to use them to amass power or influence.

 

I'm pretty sure the Hat wanted to sort Hermione into Ravenclaw but, like Harry, she picked Gryffindor. It's been a while since I read the books, so I may be misremembering.

 

I think Solas (on topic!) would make an amazing Ravenclaw, but he has just as many qualities that make a fantastic Slytherin.


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Well, I killed the thread.

 

Great.


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I'm pretty sure the Hat wanted to sort Hermione into Ravenclaw but, like Harry, she picked Gryffindor. It's been a while since I read the books, so I may be misremembering.

 

Oh, I've read the books fairly recently. It's true the Hat's first choice was to sort her into Ravenclaw, but it also sensed a small spark of courage/adventure/defiance in her, and ultimately chose to put her into Gryffindor on account of that spark. (It helped that that's the House she wanted.)

 

I think it's worth noting though that while the Hat takes people's desires into account, it doesn't base its decision entirely on them. According to Pottermore, the Hat also sensed a bit of courageous potential in Neville (buried underneath it all), and wanted to put him into Gryffindor to nurture it. However, Neville was intimidated by Gryffindor's reputation and wanted to go into Hufflepuff instead. The reason the Hat took so long to sort him wasn't because it couldn't decide, but because it took so long to bully convince Neville to accept being sorted into Gryffindor. If it just took his desire into account, he would have been sorted into Hufflepuff in ten seconds and that would have been that.

 

I think Solas (on topic!) would make an amazing Ravenclaw, but he has just as many qualities that make a fantastic Slytherin.

 

Yeah... That's kind of another problem I have with the Sorting concept. Most people don't fit neatly into little boxes or stereotypes. Most people are more complex than "You value wisdom and knowledge, so go to Ravenclaw," or "You're ambitious and cunning, so go to Slytherin."

 

It's also complicated by how the Hogwarts House system works. They get students young and teach and raise them into the kind of people they'll be when they go out into the big wide world. Since the tween and teenage years are so vital to their personal development, the Sorting Hat examines their potential and puts them into the environment it thinks they're most likely to thrive.

 

We don't see Solas as a child or young man, so we don't know how he would have thrived had he been sorted young. We see that he values wisdom and knowledge now, but that could have been shaped by events in his childhood and young adulthood that we haven't seen. He claims he was cocky, hot-blooded, and eager for a fight when he was younger, which, for all we know, means he would have been eager to be sorted into Gryffindor at that age. He also hints that he had been very ambitious and out to prove himself when he was young, so maybe Slytherin? I feel Solas implies that he now values wisdom, introspection, and self-reflection at least in part because his illusions of grandeur blew up in his face, and so now he's been humbled and seeks self-betterment for its own sake.

 

Now that I think on it, it's hard to tell. =(



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Oh, I've read the books fairly recently. It's true the Hat's first choice was to sort her into Ravenclaw, but it also sensed a small spark of courage/adventure/defiance in her, and ultimately chose to put her into Gryffindor on account of that spark. (It helped that that's the House she wanted.)

 

I think it's worth noting though that while the Hat takes people's desires into account, it doesn't base its decision entirely on them. According to Pottermore, the Hat also sensed a bit of courageous potential in Neville (buried underneath it all), and wanted to put him into Gryffindor to nurture it. However, Neville was intimidated by Gryffindor's reputation and wanted to go into Hufflepuff instead. The reason the Hat took so long to sort him wasn't because it couldn't decide, but because it took so long to bully convince Neville to accept being sorted into Gryffindor. If it just took his desire into account, he would have been sorted into Hufflepuff in ten seconds and that would have been that.

 

 

 

 

Yeah... That's kind of another problem I have with the Sorting concept. Most people don't fit neatly into little boxes or stereotypes. Most people are more complex than "You value wisdom and knowledge, so go to Ravenclaw," or "You're ambitious and cunning, so go to Slytherin."

 

It's also complicated by how the Hogwarts House system works. They get students young and teach and raise them into the kind of people they'll be when they go out into the big wide world. Since the tween and teenage years are so vital to their personal development, the Sorting Hat examines their potential and puts them into the environment it thinks they're most likely to thrive.

 

We don't see Solas as a child or young man, so we don't know how he would have thrived had he been sorted young. We see that he values wisdom and knowledge now, but that could have been shaped by events in his childhood and young adulthood that we haven't seen. He claims he was cocky, hot-blooded, and eager for a fight when he was younger, which, for all we know, means he would have been eager to be sorted into Gryffindor at that age. He also hints that he had been very ambitious and out to prove himself when he was young, so maybe Slytherin? I feel Solas implies that he now values wisdom, introspection, and self-reflection at least in part because his illusions of grandeur blew up in his face, and so now he's been humbled and seeks self-betterment for its own sake.

 

Now that I think on it, it's hard to tell. =(

 

I have a lot of problems with the Harry Potter books (although I love them) and the Sorting is one of them. It takes children at a very young age and basically picks their life for them.  The books themselves say this is a bad thing (with Dumbledore's musing that Snape may have turned out differently if he'd not been sorted into Slytherin) but at the end of the serise it doesn't seem like the house system has changed at all.

 

I'm actually know thinking about how various DA character would fit into the different houses and how that would help shape their personalities.
 



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Of course, since the Hat seems to put evil people in Slytherin to become more evil, its definition of "thrive" seems to be wholly amoral.



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Of course, since the Hat seems to put evil people in Slytherin to become more evil, its definition of "thrive" seems to be wholly amoral.

 

This is one of my main issues with Harry Potter.  There's nothing wrong with being cunning or ambitious, but the characters (and the books themselves) treat anyone who is sorted into there as evil.  Even the frigging TEACHERS. (I'm looking at you Professor Minerva 'Escort the Slytherins from the school because you assume none of them want to fight Voldemort' McGonagall).


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A couple more arts to share

 

Lavellan is so graceful

http://pakipaki-yuki...anger-529392074

 

Solas Chibi - I like the eyes

http://zedonias.devi...chibi-529305849

 

 

 

And Morrigan..just because this is such beautiful work

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I have a lot of problems with the Harry Potter books (although I love them) and the Sorting is one of them. It takes children at a very young age and basically picks their life for them.  The books themselves say this is a bad thing (with Dumbledore's musing that Snape may have turned out differently if he'd not been sorted into Slytherin) but at the end of the serise it doesn't seem like the house system has changed at all.

 

I'm actually know thinking about how various DA character would fit into the different houses and how that would help shape their personalities.
 

 

To be fair, isn't it like that with most aspects of our lives? None of us chose the families or bodies we were born into, many of us didn't choose the homes we grew up in or the schools we attended growing up (often these things are picked out by our parents, or chosen for our parents thanks to their socio/economic circumstances), but we just make due with the hands we're dealt with. 

 

Coming back to Hogwarts, it sounds like they still "pick their lives for them" just by virtue of creating a world where magic children have only a handful of magical schools all over Europe. If you live in the UK, you get selected to go to Hogwarts. You don't want to go to Hogwarts? Too bad, wizarding boarding school is the only place where you can learn to control your magic, and thus become a proper adult and functioning member of society. (Poor Ariana...) Homeschooling? Local public schools? Dream on! You get expelled from Hogwarts (as they often threaten their students)? Too bad, you get your wand snapped and are never allowed to use magic again for as long as you live, like poor Hagrid. (Now THAT'S incredibly unfair; you make one mistake when you're young and stupid--that age when most of us screw up--and you have to pay for it for the rest of your life??) 

 

There's a lot of control along the students' lives even when you remove the Sorting House system, though that one is also pretty destiny-controlling, now that you mentioned it...

 

EDIT: Now I'm starting to see why Solas is so gung-ho about everyone getting freedom, opportunities, and agency to choose their own path. I'd wonder if he'd see the Hogwarts system (especially the House system) as a rather dubious method of teaching mages, since their environments large telling them what they are rather than letting them decide who they are, and so forth. (Then again, it's no Circle tower with Templars guarding them, so maybe not...)


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Fanart music video is finally done!

 

 

Hopefully, I'll be able to message all the artists tonight. If not, tomorrow.


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message sent updated!

 

pardon me while i melt into a puddle


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To be fair, isn't it like that with most aspects of our lives? None of us chose the families or bodies we were born into, many of us didn't choose the homes we grew up in or the schools we attended growing up (often these things are picked out by our parents, or chosen for our parents thanks to their socio/economic circumstances), but we just make due with the hands we're dealt with. 

 

Coming back to Hogwarts, it sounds like they still "pick their lives for them" just by virtue of creating a world where magic children have only a handful of magical schools all over Europe. If you live in the UK, you get selected to go to Hogwarts. You don't want to go to Hogwarts? Too bad, wizarding boarding school is the only place where you can learn to control your magic, and thus become a proper adult and functioning member of society. (Poor Ariana...) Homeschooling? Local public schools? Dream on! You get expelled from Hogwarts (as they often threaten their students)? Too bad, you get your wand snapped and are never allowed to use magic again for as long as you live, like poor Hagrid. (Now THAT'S incredibly unfair; you make one mistake when you're young and stupid--that age when most of us screw up--and you have to pay for it for the rest of your life??) 

 

There's a lot of control along the students' lives even when you remove the Sorting House system, though that one is also pretty destiny-controlling, now that you mentioned it...

 

EDIT: Now I'm starting to see why Solas is so gung-ho about everyone getting freedom, opportunities, and agency to choose their own path. I'd wonder if he'd see the Hogwarts system (especially the House system) as a rather dubious method of teaching mages, since their environments large telling them what they are rather than letting them decide who they are, and so forth. (Then again, it's no Circle tower with Templars guarding them, so maybe not...)

Actually, homeschooling is allowed, or was mentioned to be such in Deathly Hallows before the Death Eater regime made it mandatory. How this squares with the whole wand thing, I have no idea, but I suspect that was an idea that Rowling may have dropped later on.



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On it.

 

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Edit: God, I felt mightily aflutter. THIS FIC. <3


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