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It's just another form of Circle tower.  Like you said: they don't get much freedom to choose where they want to go. Break the rules and you're screwed

 

Not only the Circles, it's also the Qun. Only difference is (and it applies to both, Circles and Qun), "you can check out any time you like but you can never leave". The Qun will "re-educate" you to forget your silly little ambitions of freedom and own choice, while the Circle simply locks you away and lets you suffer from your longing for freedom, or takes away all emotion from you by the rite of tranquility if you seem like you might cause trouble.

 

Maybe it is even a bit more like the Qun, which (like the houses in Hogwarts) makes it all seem like a cool thing to be pigeonholed, something to be proud of. "Ah, you're smart and not brave", "So you're pragmatic and evil", "Hello there kind naif". As if we used those MBTI types to school our children, "No, sorry, INTJs can't sign up for this class, we both know you will never be an actor anyway" or "Uhh... see how that little ESFP looks at the science book? Too funny."

 

(Though one thing I never really understood is how the houses influence the kids so massively. They are in the same courses, have the same teachers after all.)


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Not only the Circles, it's also the Qun. Only difference is (and it applies to both, Circles and Qun), "you can check out any time you like but you can never leave". The Qun will "re-educate" you to forget your silly little ambitions of freedom and own choice, while the Circle simply locks you away and lets you suffer from your longing for freedom, or takes away all emotion from you by the rite of tranquility if you seem like you might cause trouble.

 

Maybe it is even a bit more like the Qun, which (like the houses in Hogwarts) makes it all seem like a cool thing to be pigeonholed, something to be proud of. "Ah, you're smart and not brave", "So you're pragmatic and evil", "Hello there kind naif". As if we used those MBTI types to school our children, "No, sorry, INTJs can't sign up for this class, we both know you will never be an actor anyway" or "Uhh... see how that little ESFP looks at the science book? Too funny."

 

(Though one thing I never really understood is how the houses influence the kids so massively. They are in the same courses, have the same teachers after all.)

 

Older pupils influencing younger pupils who were influenced by their parents, I'd assume.  Look at the way talking to Hagrid affected Harry's view of Slytherin, after all.  And Ron even mentions that he thinks his brothers would disown him if he wasn't in Gryffindor.  He's got a huge pressure to be in that house - his mum and dad were in it, al his brothers were in it.  To Ron (who has low self esteem pretty much his entire life) getting into another house would be like there was something wrong with him. 

 

The comparison of Hogwarts Houses and the Qun is amazing and you're amazing for coming up with it.
 



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and on that topic - where do Hogwarts students learn their non-magical lessons?  Do they just reach the end of primary school and the magical world says 'yup.  you're educated.  Carry on'.  

 

The Ministry of Magic expects parents of magical children to handle their education. So, either they are home schooled (in the case of the Weasley's) or they attend Muggle school (in Harry's case) until it's time to go to Hogwarts.

 

Since you were wondering...



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The Ministry of Magic expects parents of magical children to handle their education. So, either they are home schooled (in the case of the Weasley's) or they attend Muggle school (in Harry's case) until it's time to go to Hogwarts.

 

Since you were wondering...

 

That is a terrible system. No one is actually learning anything new!



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I believe that Patrick also confirmed that his interactions with the other members of the Inquisition were genuine. I think that this is pretty important.

This.  The romance was meant to underscore that since PW's fear was that his abrupt leaving would cause players to question the sincerety of his bonds with the Inquisition memebers.  And I think whatever is to come, Solas is going to realize that his relationships within the Inquisition(outside of the Inquisitor) did change him and were important to him.


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This.  The romance was meant to underscore that since PW's fear was that his abrupt leaving would cause players to question the sincerety of his bonds with the Inquisition memebers.  And I think whatever is to come, Solas is going to realize that his relationships within the Inquisition(outside of the Inquisitor) did change him and were important to him.

 

I really hope this is the case.  But the Tower card doesn't make me hopeful.



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I really hope this is the case.  But the Tower card doesn't make me hopeful.

I put way more stock and confidence in Patrick Weekes discussion of his character than a do a card that was designed by the art and the marketing department. I'm being serious. I would take more heart in what the writer says than design of those cards. 

 

I think they mean something in an abstract way but I think people put way too much meaning into them. 

 

I think they were a fun and beautiful way to describe important aspects of the character that are KNOWN when the game ends.  Not to show how his story is going to play out - or anyone's for that matter.


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Wow...Sims 4 Skyhold is amazing!!  I was pondering making Hawke's mansion or Fenris' mansion but it's too much work and I'm lazy. :-P

 

btw...I am also a cat. This is me right now. I just woke up. 

 

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I think they were a fun and beautiful way to describe important aspects of the character that are KNOWN when the game ends.  Not to show how his story is going to play out - or anyone's for that matter.

 

I do agree that the cards seem to be used as a way of showing a character's current state, not a foreshadowing of future events. Across the board, the cards change when a significant event happens to a character (such as romance). Varric, for example, has an extremely depressing card if Hawke is killed. When I first saw it, I thought something horrible had happened to Varric's character. Then we played Wicked Grace, and Varric's card changed once more. The terrible card I had fretted over was only meant to show Varric's grief at the time of his friend's death, not to imply that he couldn't recover.

 

In the case of the The Tower, that specific card in tarot is meant to represent a sudden and unexpected change - in Solas' case, the destruction of the orb. Solas' plan the entire game has been to get the orb back. Now, the orb is crushed, which means whatever he had planned for the orb can no longer be carried out. And, I believe, the orb's destruction means he'll have to take Mythal's power (something I think Solas always had as a backup plan but had hoped to not have to use). This is emotionally crushing for him - and that is what I think the Tower card represents: the weight of his ruined plan and what he knows he now has to do. But the card is only representing his state at the end of the game, not indicating his future (which follows with the other cards we see in the game).


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No new art to post this morning, but I wanted to share Widdershins-Works art gallery with you.  He has some amazing Dragon Age art of the Elven Pantheon, Abelas and a few of Solas.

 

http://widdershins-w...deviantart.com/


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No new art to post this morning, but I wanted to share Widdershins-Works art gallery with you.  He has some amazing Dragon Age art of the Elven Pantheon, Abelas and a few of Solas.

 

http://widdershins-w...deviantart.com/

 

I love looking at his gallery. *___*

 

Same here, no new art at the moment except this one. xD

 

Lavellan has creepy elf hands. (Check out the video in the artist's Tumblr post to see why. *shudders*)

 

SOURCE

 

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#98812
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Oh my goodness...what a horrible glitch..hehehe.


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I love looking at his gallery. *___*

 

Same here, no new art at the moment except this one. xD

 

Lavellan has creepy elf hands. (Check out the video in the artist's Tumblr post to see why. *shudders*)

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This artist - who is on tumblr - has some nice Solas/Lavellan stuff but uh...I go there for other very obvious reasons(her Samson/OC stuff...which is just...*sigh*) - http://the-zombie-cat.deviantart.com/

 

She doesn't like people reposting to tumblr without her permission- but I recommend watching her Deviantart.  I like her stuff for, again, VERY obvious reasons.  

 

Here's some Solas/Lavellan(she has some colored stuff too but I like this pose) - SOURCE

 

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EDIT - Oh god I just went through her Samson stuff(she adds more everyday because I think she likes pain)

This is me RITE NAO

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I really hope this is the case.  But the Tower card doesn't make me hopeful.

 

The Tower card just makes me sad.

 

But these cards do kind of pertain to the events in the game and how they affect characters. Though I want to put a teensy bit of hope in the beauty and serenity of his romance card (though that's more or less how he felt with her and how she affected him so positively....even giving him some sense of hope. so even this can be contained within DAI's events)



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This artist - who is on tumblr - has some nice Solas/Lavellan stuff but uh...I go there for other very obvious reasons(her Samson/OC stuff...which is just...*sigh*) - http://the-zombie-cat.deviantart.com/

 

She doesn't like people reposting to tumblr without her permission- but I recommend watching her Deviantart.  I like her stuff for, again, VERY obvious reasons.  

 

Here's some Solas/Lavellan(she has some colored stuff too but I like this pose) - SOURCE

 

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Ah yes! I know that artist. :) She's the one who draws artwork of Solas and her friend's Lavellan, Tala, whom I've personally dubbed as the "third Tala" (after mine and RogueBait's Lavellan :ph34r:). I do enjoy looking at her works too and sort of recently followed her on Tumblr. (Her Samson/OC stuff's pretty hot.)


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Oh, is that the one the Tala War was declared against? :P


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Oh, is that the one the Tala War was declared against? :P

 

Yeah... xD The whole war thing is just a joke of course. (At least, I hope it's a joke...lol)


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CHAPTER 12 of Message Sent is now up!!

 

*goes to read*

 

EDIT: Just finished reading.

 

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I just finished.

 

 

Need.....more....



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I love looking at his gallery. *___*
 
Same here, no new art at the moment except this one. xD
 
Lavellan has creepy elf hands. (Check out the video in the artist's Tumblr post to see why. *shudders*)
 
SOURCE
 

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LOL! I swear I live for these type of glitches lately. Need laughter. Always need more laughs.

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EDIT - Oh god I just went through her Samson stuff(she adds more everyday because I think she likes pain)

This is me RITE NAO

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There there..it will be okay, Falon. <3

 

Edit: TOP SOLAS!

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One day I'll use all the notes I made for a cyberpunk AU and actually /do/ something with it. Otherwise, they're just rotting away. 



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One day I'll use all the notes I made for a cyberpunk AU and actually /do/ something with it.

 

You have my attention...



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One day I'll use all the notes I made for a cyberpunk AU and actually /do/ something with it. Otherwise, they're just rotting away. 

 

 

Between you and Sable....someone do this already. :P

 

 

 

I told my friend there were new chapters of Message Sent and she couldn't ask me for the link fast enough. :lol:  Now she waits with the rest of us.



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Sable has a thing that's really good and has some cool modern-ish elements to it that she should share if she feels comfortable! 

 

I have literally nothing beyond a roughly sketched out series of ideas about how I could incorporate cyberpunk into Dragon Age. 



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There there..it will be okay, Falon. <3

Thanks to your gif this song is stuck in my head. :lol:  tumblr_m5olu7xVsP1r70p9yo2_250.gif

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