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I personally think it's a great pose, just the right amount of subtlety, and just beautiful overall.

 

I assume that might be it... When I see those "computer graphic style" pictures with clear lines and colors, they are pretty and all. But it's hardly more than that. I did a picture with bézier curves recently. Used a Latex program, defined the coordinates and angles, and gradually adjusted the values until it looked like I wanted. It's tedious work, but it's "simple" to get a nice looking result after enough iterations. Free drawing however amazes me. And in those sketches I can see the abilities of the artist. Helper lines and maybe tiny fixes or double lines for adjustment, that's the things that emphasize how good the picture itself is and how well the artist is able to capture a movement or proportion. The less polished, the more an image affects me. And it takes longer to get the picture. Eye and brain have to process and organize more, that motivates me. :lol:

 

Blahblahblah Siha. In short: it is beautiful. There are so many talented people here, it's incredible.

 

 

I try to get my boyfriend off his butt to go to art museums and the like and he thinks viewing pictures online of paintings and sculpture is just as good. But no. I love the way you described that, since one of my favorite things is to probably make the museum guards worried since I walk up as close as I can get and look for the traces of brushstrokes, lines peeking out from underneath a layer, patterns, details up close, etc. And it's the same with sketches, as you said. Or when I visit exhibitions or museums where writers' books/notes/manuscripts are stored.

 

Now that people create so much on machines, we lose a bit of these touches. They tell so much. Not that I'm slamming digital art or writing, because I am not. It's just a new stage of where we are.

 

I think I will have to write the fluff piece I've had in my mind that includes mention of Solas finishing a section of his fresco while Lavellan is away.


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I don't see it as awful at all!  With how Solas views freedom this gift is a very important one.  According to Weekes he did intend to tell her about the vallaslin there as a lead in to the truth about himself, so it's not like he just thought up something on the spur of the moment and though 'yup.  Good enough.  Day saved.'

I had to listen to the interview to be sure, but, while I don't think he brought it up spur of the moment either and I'm sure he wanted to tell her -- it was definitely in his back pocket and I don't think it was his plan (unless I'm missing an interview).

My paraphrasing of the interview around 57 minutes:
"Solas is one step from telling you the truth about himself, and the actor did a fantastic job on the delivery,and if you do his romance there's one key moment where he says "you're a beautiful person, want to show you how much I care, etc....wanna show you that you deserve some truth". He (the actor) breaks on that line, because that's the part where he almost tells you the truth, then twists it to talk about the vallaslin instead. He chickens out on it, in that moment he is about to tell you, then pulls back at the last minute and tells you about the vallaslin. Goes in to kiss you, ready to lose himself and forget about the past, and he has to push back. And that's when he physically steps back, too, because he knows he will betray himself if he doesn't let you go."

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I don't see it as awful at all!  With how Solas views freedom this gift is a very important one.  According to Weekes he did intend to tell her about the vallaslin there as a lead in to the truth about himself, so it's not like he just thought up something on the spur of the moment and though 'yup.  Good enough.  Day saved.'

 

The bolded bit: exactly. That's why I dislike how they tied this to the breakup scene. If you say Weekes said [...] that's good but I never heard this before. It's always "he wanted to tell her the truth about himself, but then he hesitated, chickened out, and spoke about the vallaslin instead". Like a plan B. Solas should tell her anyway, it should have been an own and independent scene, nothing that comes off like second best, but currently (in my feeling) it is very close to being just that. "Hey, I can't be with you after all so... have this consolation prize."

 

And that's also why I dislike that he doesn't tell the other inquisitors (maybe just not offer them to take them away?), but this is personal preference anyway. 


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The bolded bit: exactly. That's why I dislike how they tied this to the breakup scene. If you say Weekes said [...] that's good but I never heard this before. It's always "he wanted to tell her the truth about himself, but then he hesitated, chickened out, and spoke about the vallaslin instead". Like a plan B. Solas should tell her anyway, it should have been an own and independent scene, nothing that comes off like second best, but currently (in my feeling) it is very close to being just that. "Hey, I can't be with you after all so... have this consolation prize."

 

And that's also why I dislike that he doesn't tell the other inquisitors (maybe just not offer them to take them away?), but this is personal preference anyway. 

 

I am reasonably sure that Weekes said that.  If anyone has the transcript for the NA interview or a link to it I'll be able to confirm.

 

Don't forget that it was the breakup that was a spur of the moment thing, not what he told Lavellan.  It's not like he took her to the fire swamp and sad 'I hate your tattoos.  Also, I'm breaking up with you lol'.

 

It's also important to remember that, without the romance, the only hint we'd get about vallaslin is what Corypheus says during the end game.  It makes me think that it was intended to be something all Inquisitors would learn in a DLC and Lavellans just got to learn it earlier due to their boyfriend being an ancient elven god.



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I am reasonably sure that Weekes said that.  If anyone has the transcript for the NA interview or a link to it I'll be able to confirm.

Two posts up!

I don't get why he had to keep secrets from her anyway. He says it'll all be made clear after Cory's defeat -- was this only if the orb remained intact? So since it broke he doesn't tell her anything?

Or did he mean WAY after Cory's defeat and it all had to be hush hush till then? It's these sorts of questions that make me think Lavellans everywhere deserve that wolf hunt DLC, rofl.



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Two posts up!

I don't get why he had to keep secrets from her anyway. He says it'll all be made clear after Cory's defeat -- was this only if the orb remained intact? So since it broke he doesn't tell her anything?

Or did he mean WAY after Cory's defeat and it all had to be hush hush till then? It's these sorts of questions that make me think Lavellans everywhere deserve that wolf hunt DLC, rofl.

 

Thanks.  I'll check it out asap.

 

At the point he said everything would be made clear Solas still thought he could get the orb back.  Then it broke and his plans changed very quickly to what we saw during the epilogue.

 



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Thanks.  I'll check it out asap.

 

At the point he said everything would be made clear Solas still thought he could get the orb back.  Then it broke and his plans changed very quickly to what we saw during the epilogue.

If it went down that way, then it gets so much sadder when I think about how he heartbrokenly said "It wasn't supposed to happen this way/What we had was real". Like part of that could encompass Solas was supposed to be with Lavellan ;^;


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As far as we know, it is likely he still held out some hope if he could get the orb back, but when it broke, the orb and the power it represented for him, and any hope of even thinking about returning (remember, he also left a painting sketched out but unfinished) evaporated and he had to go take plan B.



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Like part of that could encompass Solas was supposed to be with Lavellan ;^;

 

...for like 2 hours of his time and then she's 92 and dies... I dunno, their relationship was ill-fated to begin with. Either way it goes, Solas must suffer from it.


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...for like 2 hours of his time and then she's 92 and dies... I dunno, their relationship was ill-fated to begin with. Either way it goes, Solas must suffer from it.

Neverrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!

-clings to head canon that the mark's connection to the fade will render her immortal-

Shhhhhhhhhh.... shhh... it's all okay, Lavellan. Don't let Siha worry you. -pat pat pat-


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Neverrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!

-clings to head canon that the mark's connection to the fade will render her immortal-

Shhhhhhhhhh.... shhh... it's all okay, Levallen. Don't let Siha worry you. -pat pat pat-

 

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-hands teeny tiny Team Optimism flag-

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This is adorable.  :D


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It's art time again. :)

 

The artist's favorite kind of Solas.  ^_^

 

The same artist also did some Solavellan smut, for those who want it.  :ph34r:

 

Sad Solas.

 

Very cute doodle of the Inquisition members.


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You did know what you did, right? I HOPE YOU ARE SORRY!!

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Or maybe I actually did it yesterday because I adore that movie and it was only a matter of time. We'll never know.

 

The first rule of Suledin is You Do Not Talk About Suledin.

 

The second rule of Suledin is Dirth Ma Banal Nadas, Var Suledinan.

 

(I probably fudged the grammar, but Elven's complicated)

 

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In my mind, every conversation between Cadash and Bull has this subtext...

 

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Something we might not have discussed (knowing us, we probably have) - I keep coming back to the Mark on the Inquisitor's hand. We know that the mark came from the orb Corypheus carried, and we know the orb is elven and that the orbs were foci for elven power. And presumably the orb is Solas' orb that he stored his own power into.

 

Which means the mark on Lavellan's hand is Solas' mark.

 

I mean, the whole time the two of them are together and he's talking to her, romancing her, she has this mark on her hand that is from him, of him. And I - I just -alsjdflsjfla!

 

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Something we might not have discussed (knowing us, we probably have) - I keep coming back to the Mark on the Inquisitor's hand. We know that the mark came from the orb Corypheus carried, and we know the orb is elven and that the orbs were foci for elven power. And presumably the orb is Solas' orb that he stored his own power into.

 

Which means the mark on Lavellan's hand is Solas' mark.

 

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Considering that Solas is Fen'Harel, the term "Solas' mark" creates certain associations in my head..

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Brain, whyy?!

 

Anyway, I'm not sure the power could be tied to Solas at this point, it might just be raw power. 


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Disturbing mental images aside, I'm not sure the power could be tied to Solas at this point, it might just be raw power. 

 

I've always thought of the orbs as something the elven gods could store their own power into - and with Solas' obsession with the Fade and the orb being use to tear open the veil to the Fade...

 

But you are right, it is just pure speculation on my part. (fanfic ideas???)



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Tiny art time

 

I love these!

http://whatitmeansto...would-531360412

http://whatitmeansto...ansal-531360943

 

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Something we might not have discussed (knowing us, we probably have) - I keep coming back to the Mark on the Inquisitor's hand. We know that the mark came from the orb Corypheus carried, and we know the orb is elven and that the orbs were foci for elven power. And presumably the orb is Solas' orb that he stored his own power into.
 
Which means the mark on Lavellan's hand is Solas' mark.
 
I mean, the whole time the two of them are together and he's talking to her, romancing her, she has this mark on her hand that is from him, of him. And I - I just -alsjdflsjfla!
 

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As proof that I belong here in the trash, my first thought was, "So if she gives him a hand job..."

That aside, I am a fan of ridiculous, unhealthy video game relationships. I romanced Anders, ffs! The idea that she's already tied to him through the mark and then possibly can bind their freaky thing tighter by drinking from the Well entertains me. She doesn't know it, but a sensible Solas should be nope-ing the hell out of there, just like he does.

I'm in the "he should tell all Lavellans" camp. I would much rather the vallaslin reveal was tied to full approval rather than the break-up scene.
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As proof that I belong here in the trash, my first thought was, "So if she gives him a hand job..."
 

 

There has been art like this. :mellow:

 

And there has been mention of a "Riftjob" fic that was mentioned to the devs at PAX. And then there is...this NSFW creation:

http://carrieliarts....en-if-you#notes
 


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Something we might not have discussed (knowing us, we probably have) - I keep coming back to the Mark on the Inquisitor's hand. We know that the mark came from the orb Corypheus carried, and we know the orb is elven and that the orbs were foci for elven power. And presumably the orb is Solas' orb that he stored his own power into.

 

Which means the mark on Lavellan's hand is Solas' mark.

 

I mean, the whole time the two of them are together and he's talking to her, romancing her, she has this mark on her hand that is from him, of him. And I - I just -alsjdflsjfla!

 

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Yes, it's his orb, meant for focusing his power, and he wasn't strong enough yet to unlock its potential. So yes, her power comes from him, indirectly. Makes sense that he's the one that teaches her what to do, waving it away in theories and guesses and The Fade.

 

Also, in the initial codex on Solas, before it updates late game to mention his deception, Leliana mentions that he "guessed" that the mark on the Inquisitor's hand was growing and tied to the Breach. So yes, he knew.
 



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...for like 2 hours of his time and then she's 92 and dies... I dunno, their relationship was ill-fated to begin with. Either way it goes, Solas must suffer from it.

 

But even real life human relationships deal with mortality. Death can happen whenever. Love is risk in many ways, but on the other side of that is the potential impact it can have.

 

It's a different dynamic with an immortal or between people with wildly different natural lifespans, but it's not like that idea hasn't been explored before. I liked how Mass Effect managed some of these discussions with regards to a Liara romance, though it could've gone further (so there's headcanon).


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Also, in the initial codex on Solas, before it updates late game to mention his deception, Leliana mentions that he "guessed" that the mark on the Inquisitor's hand was growing and tied to the Breach. So yes, he knew.

 

Although, I do wonder how much of it he understands. He's surprised she's able to use it to enter the Fade. So while he knew she could use it to close the rifts, I don't know if he fully comprehended how much power the mark actually gave her.

 

Yes, it's his orb, meant for focusing his power, and he wasn't strong enough yet to unlock its potential. So yes, her power comes from him, indirectly. Makes sense that he's the one that teaches her what to do, waving it away in theories and guesses and The Fade.

 

What just blows my mind about the mark being from his orb and presumably his power is it's just another thing that ties them together. Lavellan spends the whole game using this thing and she has no idea what it is or what it means, not really. And after Solas leaves, she still has this mark on her hand that in some strange way is tied to him.


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