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[Sable Rhapsody]

But even real life human relationships deal with mortality. Death can happen whenever. Love is risk in many ways, but on the other side of that is the potential impact it can have.

 

It's a different dynamic with an immortal or between people with wildly different natural lifespans, but it's not like that idea hasn't been explored before. I liked how Mass Effect managed some of these discussions with regards to a Liara romance, though it could've gone further (so there's headcanon).

 

And personally I think lifespan is the least of Solas and Lavellan's problems at this point.  They need to sort out...well, everything else first  And even if their lifespans are different, Solas could always enter uthenera after she dies if he really can't handle the thought of living without her around.

 

Also, in the initial codex on Solas, before it updates late game to mention his deception, Leliana mentions that he "guessed" that the mark on the Inquisitor's hand was growing and tied to the Breach. So yes, he knew.

 

Corypheus was the one who used the orb to create the Anchor.  Solas might be able to guess at its properties, but I think Cory was the only one who really knew the full extent of what it could do.  Sadly, he's no longer around to enlighten us in his booming, magisterial glory.

[Cee]

Although, I do wonder how much of it he understands. He's surprised she's able to use it to enter the Fade. So while he knew she could use it to close the rifts, I don't know if he fully comprehended how much power the mark actually gave her.

 

 

What just blows my mind about the mark being from his orb and presumably his power is it's just another thing that ties them together. Lavellan spends the whole game using this thing and she has no idea what it is or what it means, not really. And after Solas leaves, she still has this mark on her hand that in some strange way is tied to him.

 

I agree on this. It's clear that he knows only certain things.The early stuff, definitely.  And that power grows and changes over time, as she learns to use it, and then kind of uses it instinctively at Adamant to save them. From a game perspective, gaining Focus powers like Mark of the Rift and the one you can get in JoH are just abilities, but from a story/lore/character perspective, some of this is likely a surprise to him.

[Cee]

And personally I think lifespan is the least of Solas and Lavellan's problems at this point.  They need to sort out...well, everything else first  And even if their lifespans are different, Solas could always enter uthenera after she dies if he really can't handle the thought of living without her around.

 

 

Corypheus was the one who used the orb to create the Anchor.  Solas might be able to guess at its properties, but I think Cory was the only one who really knew the full extent of what it could do.  Sadly, he's no longer around to enlighten us in his booming, magisterial glory.

 

He could pull an Arwen of sorts, yes. Only she never quite saw 3000. But yes, they have much to sort out. And I wonder if Solas will need the Anchor for DLC or whatever he's working on.

 

This as well. There's much Solas clearly doesn't know and it's in the statements he makes and questions he asks. He didn't know what Cory would plan and certainly didn't expect him to survive it. The ritual that happened wasn't his making or doing. It's clear Solas knows something, but that it's limited.

[Cee]

Tiny art time

 

I love these!

http://whatitmeansto...would-531360412

http://whatitmeansto...ansal-531360943

 

Zevran

http://ytoti.deviant...evran-531357888

 

The first two are really cute in style.

 

And that Zevran.

[Heidirs]

 And I wonder if Solas will need the Anchor for DLC or whatever he's working on.

 

I know that's been brought up before, and I really do wonder, considering that Solas need the power from the orb and Lavellan at least has some of it on her hand.

 

Given that mark has more power than Solas realizes, I think it would be interesting if later down the road it suddenly dawns on him that he could use it.

[Cee]

I know that's been brought up before, and I really do wonder, considering that Solas need the power from the orb and Lavellan at least has some of it on her hand.

 

Given that mark has more power than Solas realizes, I think it would be interesting if later down the road it suddenly dawns on him that he could use it.

 

He's surprised, as well as pleased that she's been in the Fade physically, and then if he tags along at Adamant, even moreso with his nerding out. So this could be something.

 

In any case, I do wonder what the hell is going to happen. I want there to be some way she finds out the truth about who he is, and maybs gains greater understanding.

 

Everything is just so open ended and confusing for her. :/ I know sometimes that just happens in real life too, but damn it, we can hope for some kind of closure, at minimum.

 

*waves tiny optimism flag*

[Uirebhiril]

Something I've been thinking about is how everyone says Solas lied about who he is because he didn't tell anyone he's actually Fen'Harel - at least, he seems to be if what we've seen in the game is assumed correct. Well. The counter to that is who would believe him, or how would anyone trust him then with such an important thing, and so on.

 

Can you just imagine if he DID tell people he was Fen'Harel, but no one believed him? They let him hang around because he did know a lot about the Fade and the breach, but they all thought he was just nuts. It'd be a completely different character, but just imagine it. And in the end? "I damn well TOLD you who I was!"

 

Would have been interesting to say the least.

[Heidirs]

He's surprised, as well as pleased that she's been in the Fade physically, and then if he tags along at Adamant, even moreso with his nerding out. So this could be something.

 

In any case, I do wonder what the hell is going to happen. I want there to be some way she finds out the truth about who he is, and maybs gains greater understanding.

 

Everything is just so open ended and confusing for her. :/ I know sometimes that just happens in real life too, but damn it, we can hope for some kind of closure, at minimum.

 

*waves tiny optimism flag*

 

I do think they have to clear that up. I just can't even begin to fathom how that's going to happen.

[Cee]

I am so tempted to repost the WHAT'S UP NERDS, UR ALL WRONG set again, but I just did that a few pages ago.

 

As far as that, no, it's prudent, given just how most Dalish (especially) see Fen'Harel, as well as all the legends, not to come out and say it directly. And then with his actions indirectly responsible for this world threatening sky tear?

 

He could've merely claimed to be ancient, but that would've also led to questions. It gives him a plausible way of denying certain things and obscuring things to present himself as Solas.

 

And taking on the name of Solas is significant in itself, as a bit of a reminder.

[Illyria]

I cannot find the words to adequately describe how much I love this so this  will have to do 

 

 

 

 

 

This is a serious problem. I feel your pain.

 

 

Words cannot express how much I love this.

 

Since I can multi quote again;

 

I'm glad you all enjoyed it

 

And now I can't get the mental image of Bull kissing Shale's... blarney stone... out of my mind.

 

Cannot unsee.

 

 

No matter how long or I live, or what I accomplish in my life, I want my lasting impact on the world to be 'once caused people to picture Golem/Qunari BDSM sex.'

[Illyria]

I'm in the "he should tell all Lavellans" camp. I would much rather the vallaslin reveal was tied to full approval rather than the break-up scene.

 

I'm in the 'he shouldn't tell all Lavellans' camp.  It's the one thing we have that's unique to the romance.  The other two romance scenes are just extensions of general scenes and every romance gets post-Halamshiral scene.  I woulnd't ask to be able to read poetry with Cassandra or duel for Josie if I wasn't romancing them.

[Illyria]

Thank you! Haha, no worries, I'm getting the vibe that the theory has died down a bit anyway, ah, well.

 

The theory crafting has only died down because we've pretty much run out of theories.

 

Edit: And Madrar and Caddius running off didn't help.

 

Edit again: where are they, anyway?

[Cee]

The theory crafting has only died down because we've pretty much run out of theories.

 

 

Solas is the creator of chocolate, and that's how he lured the elven gods away.

[Illyria]

Solas is the creator of chocolate, and that's how he lured the elven gods away.

 

Cee, that's not a theory.

 

That's canon.

 

Unrelated to Solas but does anyone know what happened to Faerunner?  I was looking through yesterday's posts for the stuff I wanted to reply to and her account is now guest_faerunner o.O

[Delphine]

Unrelated to Solas but does anyone know what happened to Faerunner?  I was looking through yesterday's posts for the stuff I wanted to reply to and her account is now guest_faerunner o.O

 

I think she deleted her account following some posts she felt were hostile and making her feel unwelcome ._.

[Illyria]

I think she deleted her account following some posts she felt were hostile and making her feel unwelcome ._.

 

 

 

Poor Faerunner.

[Cee]

I'm presuming the I'm out post was taken to heart after the bunch of discussions that happened? I think her arguments and criticism were good, though sometimes she did approach in a way that came off as dismissive and a bit....rough.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I think she deleted her account following some posts she felt were hostile and making her feel unwelcome ._.

 

 

She and I barely ever agreed on anything, but I liked our discussions nonetheless.

[Illyria]

I'm presuming the I'm out post was taken to heart after the bunch of discussions that happened? I think her arguments and criticism were good, though sometimes she did approach in a way that came off as dismissive and a bit....rough.

 

I can understand why.  This is clearly a subject she feels passionate about.   I hope she comes back at some point.

[Cee]

I can understand why.  This is clearly a subject she feels passionate about.   I hope she comes back at some point.

 

Agreed, though even I (and I'm patient and also care about similar matters pretty deeply) stopped really responding to that discussion after her replies came off as really dismissive. I do still think having that kind of perspective is important though, and nobody should be made to feel that unwelcome because of it.

 

edit:

 

BEHOLD, VHENAN, I need no modesty flaps

 

[phaonica]

I'm presuming the I'm out post was taken to heart after the bunch of discussions that happened? I think her arguments and criticism were good, though sometimes she did approach in a way that came off as dismissive and a bit....rough.

 

One of her threads was locked after it became super hostile, too, which I wonder if it had anything to do with it. I hope she's okay.

[nikki-tikki]

I'm in the 'he shouldn't tell all Lavellans' camp.  It's the one thing we have that's unique to the romance.  The other two romance scenes are just extensions of general scenes and every romance gets post-Halamshiral scene.  I woulnd't ask to be able to read poetry with Cassandra or duel for Josie if I wasn't romancing them.

 

I think it should matter to all Lavellans. All elves in general. Why should everyone else be parading around with slave markings on their face but only special Lavellan gets to know the truth. It would have been better if both genders were given the option. It would make more sense to Solas' character, even to a friend, that if he apposed slavery so much why wouldn't he want his friends to know...

 

I'm presuming the I'm out post was taken to heart after the bunch of discussions that happened? I think her arguments and criticism were good, though sometimes she did approach in a way that came off as dismissive and a bit....rough.

 

Just a little bit. But I enjoyed our talks. 

[Cee]

People tell friends and lovers different things, especially if the person you love is closest to you and thus someone you trust in a different way. It's not unrealistic. Plus, he's giving her that knowledge, which she could also disseminate. 

 

Could all Dalish benefit from that knowledge? Yes.  But it's a personal moment that's just for them, him giving the woman he loves a certain gift reflective of his highest values, and that's also okay.

[nikki-tikki]

People tell friends and lovers different things, especially if the person you love is closest to you and thus someone you trust in a different way. It's not unrealistic. Plus, he's giving her that knowledge, which she could also disseminate. 

 

Could all Dalish benefit from that knowledge? Yes.  But it's a personal moment that's just for them, him giving the woman he loves a certain gift reflective of his highest values, and that's also okay.

 

I know...but stillllllllllllllll. My poor Mahanon baby has no idea that he's wearing Sylaise's slave markings...HE WILL NEVER KNOWWWWWWWWWW

 

[CapricornSun]

Plus, let us not forget, he didn't initially bring her to the fire swamp to tell her the truth about the vallaslin. He just had to think of something to say to her when he suddenly chickened out on telling her who he really is.