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Don't anyone dare even mention Exile. My heart oh my god it broke into a million pieces when I found out what they did to Exile.

 

Atton and Exile... they never quite got there...

 

*snip*

 

Screw. You. TOR. Team.

 

what they did to the Exile?!?! O_O I'm scared...



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Can't sleep. Must. Think. Of. Solas.

 

Solas is love. Solas is life.


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Don't anyone dare even mention Exile. My heart oh my god it broke into a million pieces when I found out what they did to Exile.

 

Atton and Exile... they never quite got there...

 

I will never play that questline, and it is pains me that I know it exists.

 

Yeah, that's why I never got into TOR. But rejoice! The Star Wars EU is no longer 'canon', so we can imagine whatever ending we like and Revan can be a woman!

 

Really, I don't care if it was rushed, KOTOR 2 had the perfect ending; Atton and the Exile walking off into the sunset together.

 

Spoiler

 

And speaking of which, I've been replaying KOTOR 2 recently and the emphasis on Solas being a character who looks at things in shades of grey reminds me of...Kreia. Which makes me really really excited. Kreia is one of my favourite characters ever. She really shook up the Star Wars universe for me. I have a feeling that Solas might do something similar for Dragon Age.


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I was imagining Solas as a bit of a Vulcan, which was no bad thing considering every so often they really have to mate.   However, VA said he is very passionate about his beliefs which doesn't sound Vulcan at all, which is much better.    Then thinking again about the logical, the thought sprang into my mind "Sherlock Holmes".   He is passionate about what he does, but doesn't like to think of himself as being subject to all those distracting emotions which can get in the way.    However, there was one woman that he holds above all the rest.    Of course he was never romantically entangled with her but she did stir something in him.   So even if Solas turns out not to be a romance, I wouldn't mind being "The Woman" against which all others are measured and found wanting.

 

Really though, I'm thinking Solas is going to be unique, not really like anyone we have encountered before and I really can't wait to meet him.   Hope it's not too long into the game and that he definitely comes looking for us because otherwise I'm going to be chasing around all over the place hoping to find the right location to hook up.


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I don't think Solas will be the unemotional type.  Between the VA saying he's passionate about his beliefs and the devs saying he'd be scotch bonnet candies if he were a food (scotch bonnet peppers are pretty damn hot), I'm going to guess that logic and emotion aren't going to be mutually exclusive for him.

 

Yeah, I'm really curious about Solas going looking for the Inquisitor.  Does that mean he shows up at Skyhold after a certain point?  Which would probably mean you'd have to reach a certain point in the story before he could join.  Is he hanging around somewhere that the Inquisitor eventually/inevitably has to go to - somewhere where there's a rift maybe?  Where and when I can get companions is one of the few things I'm eager for spoilers about.  Getting everyone as soon as possible means more time with them.


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Oh no. Don't get me started on TOR. My exile ran off with Atton into the sunset and Revan is somewhere in space doing whatever with her bad self. Probably drinking piña coladas on some weird space beach. Nothing will convince me otherwise. (I reject your reality and substitute my own! :L)

As far as Solas, it's interesting. The people who join are supposed to be the best of the best, correct? Solas is an expert on the Fade. He must know very important things about it to have convinced the Inquisition that he is necessary. (Although with his voice my Inquisitor would let him join even if he was a sheep herder.) It will be interesting to find out how he learned so much about it.


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@Nefla, @Karach, @Felya, @Lucius, @jellobell, and also @ClassicBox

ajdsfja LIKES. LIKES FOR ALL OF YOU. [throws them out like flowers]

i will resist the urge to reply to each and every one of you because i 100% agree so hard and then i'll just be going on and on and on about KOtOR instead...
so i'll just sum it up as GROUP HUG.
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in here we will be safe from the BS and the bad writing and oh did i mention BS???
i am also 1,000% there with those of you who refuse to believe in anything other than Revan being perfectly fine and off doing whatever SHE wants and also Atton and our Exiles living happily ever after. NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE nothing any lame MMO or sorry excuse for a book tries to tell me will change that NOOOPE.

 

but anyway, bringing it back to DA and Solas and GamesCon...

i also don't particularly see Solas as unemotional. i mean, it's possible, and i suppose i wouldn't be terribly surprised if that were the case... but i don't think it's guaranteedeither. i mean, being described as passionate and all... though maybe that's just in regards to things personal to him? but even if that is the case, he could end up as being super cool-headed and rational... until someone pokes him in the right spot or something hits close to home. ...which i'm kind of enjoying the mental image of, now...

i am also totally imagining vivi to be the first person to manage to licit such a response. didn't the writers have some tweets or something about them having "explosive" dialogue, but "mostly in a good way"? it's been so long i can't even remember... but even if i'm making that up in my head it'd still be a fun thing to see.

so many different ways to 
interpret and speculate, so little evidence of how it'll actually be...


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I can picture Sera laughing and Vivienne just scowling at her. She would say they look darling and Varric would make it a story. Bull might hit on them.   

I think he would hit on them anyways XD

 

what they did to the Exile?!?! O_O I'm scared...

They made her in love with Revan, die for "him" and then hang around "him" for 300 years as a force ghost. :rolleyes: At least making Revan a man meant she was safe from being a sacrificial lamb for the sake of a male character's backstory/motivation...I guess :sick:



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Well, Solas has been described as "stoic", which suggests he hides emotions and tries to stay cool and calm. But he's also supposed to be passionate about his beliefs, so I can picture strong emotions poking through every now and again even if he tries to remain stoic. I don't imagine he'll be completely unemotional or even Sten-level unemotional.  And if it turns out that Mr. Weekes's romance tweet is about Solas, he'll have quite a few moving moments if he's a love interest!

 

Also, hiya Solas thread! I've been away for a bit. How's it hanging? I'm assuming there's no news.  :lol:


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I didn't mean to imply he'd be reactionary like Sera just that it's unlikely that he'll be strictly cool logic all the time.  There's some fire in there somewhere.

 

Sten-level unemotional cracks me up.  I once had him say, "I have no feelings you can hurt" after he started calling my Warden kadan.  It was very tsundere of him.

 

No news, of course.


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Well, Solas has been described as "stoic", which suggests he hides emotions and tries to stay cool and calm. But he's also supposed to be passionate about his beliefs, so I can picture strong emotions poking through every now and again even if he tries to remain stoic. I don't imagine he'll be completely unemotional or even Sten-level unemotional.  And if it turns out that Mr. Weekes's romance tweet is about Solas, he'll have quite a few moving moments if he's a love interest!
 
Also, hiya Solas thread! I've been away for a bit. How's it hanging? I'm assuming there's no news.  :lol:


^This is why Solas gives me a Thane "vibe". Not background wise (or the path his character will necessarily take), but stoic, with an undercurrent of strong emotion (and a dash of humor, me thinks/hopes). Emotion that may bubble to the surface during certain times or events. ;)

Oh, and Sten was often a cut-up to me. :lol: Sten and Shale together..... <3 :D
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They made her in love with Revan, die for "him" and then hang around "him" for 300 years as a force ghost. :rolleyes: At least making Revan a man meant she was safe from being a sacrificial lamb for the sake of a male character's backstory/motivation...I guess :sick:

 

... I'm really left without words. Sometimes it seems we've come so far, and yet... :mellow:

 

Am I wrong in remembering it's "canon" that Revan and Bastila ended up together and spawned their own little future Jedi producers? Because, wow. No words.



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They made her in love with Revan, die for "him" and then hang around "him" for 300 years as a force ghost. :rolleyes: At least making Revan a man meant she was safe from being a sacrificial lamb for the sake of a male character's backstory/motivation...I guess :sick:

 

...

 

...that's...

 

...urgh...

 

HORRIBLE!!!!!

 

how could they do that?!?!?! that's... :sick:  :sick:  :sick:

 

it doesn't make any sense!!!! really, what dugs....no. I really don't want to know. It would have been better not mention at ALL of those character, if they had to destroy them in this horrible way. :angry:

and really...why would the Exile even look at Revan, when she had the "perfectly star wars style" (almost non) romance with Atton? :blink:

 

(and for me is even quite a sick thing too, since I always headcanon the Exile being Revan's little sister. mostly because I loved the head model with short spiky hear  :ph34r:)

 

 

for Solas...I still see him as a little irritable. but mostly because most of the companions are what would make any calm and less "people person" nut. :P I can picture a lot of suffering "sigh" from Solas and Cassandra.


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Had another one of my odd little random thoughts; what if the reason Solas wants to help is not because he is concerned for Thedas but that he wants to protect the Fade.   Obviously Thedosians are worried about the implications for themselves should the rift become irreversible and the material world and the Fade sort of merge into one but Solas thinks of the Fade as a fascinating, wondrous place, provided you enter it in the right frame of mind, so what becomes of this otherworld when it is no longer "other"?    For example, in the Chant of Light it almost seems as if it is the Magisters who corrupt that piece of the Fade by coming into contact with it, not the other way around and then the mixing of the two creates the darkspawn.    Solas may not agree with the Chant of Light take on the place but the reality of what happens when the two converge may not be so far from it.    

 

Note: I realise that the trailer seem to suggest the Inquisitor has actually physically been in the Fade but may be Solas can explain something of what occurred there too.


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I REALLY hope we see Solas at Gamescom! If not, then at least I'll have this adorable gif to cheer me up. Solas is a hedge mage indeed!  :D

 

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Am I wrong in remembering it's "canon" that Revan and Bastila ended up together and spawned their own little future Jedi producers? Because, wow. No words.

 

Not wrong. One of their descendants figures prominently in both of the Jedi storylines in SWTOR.  And as awesome as she is, her existence and BW's insistence on defining Revan and the Exile's canon is a major reason why I can't get into KotOR or KotOR II. 



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The Fade kind of works like the Dark Side Cave in Empire Strikes Back, what's inside is only what you take with you. If it takes on an appearance based upon who you are and your state of mind perhaps that is why the Magisters saw the Black City instead of the golden one they were promised?

If what happens to the Inquisitor is anything to go off of, physically entering the Fade changes you perhaps sacrificing tons of slaves and lyrium might have altered them into the Darkspawn?
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Had another one of my odd little random thoughts; what if the reason Solas wants to help is not because he is concerned for Thedas but that he wants to protect the Fade.   Obviously Thedosians are worried about the implications for themselves should the rift become irreversible and the material world and the Fade sort of merge into one but Solas thinks of the Fade as a fascinating, wondrous place, provided you enter it in the right frame of mind, so what becomes of this otherworld when it is no longer "other"?    For example, in the Chant of Light it almost seems as if it is the Magisters who corrupt that piece of the Fade by coming into contact with it, not the other way around and then the mixing of the two creates the darkspawn.    Solas may not agree with the Chant of Light take on the place but the reality of what happens when the two converge may not be so far from it.    

 

Note: I realise that the trailer seem to suggest the Inquisitor has actually physically been in the Fade but may be Solas can explain something of what occurred there too.

 

I have thought about this.  I have also thought about the possibility that Solas would see the merge as a good thing, which is part of the reason why I could see him being a traitor or villain.


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I have thought about this.  I have also thought about the possibility that Solas would see the merge as a good thing, which is part of the reason why I could see him being a traitor or villain.

 

 

And then, if he's an LI, then we have our bad guy romance :D



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But I thought there were no 'bad guy' romances.
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But I thought there were no 'bad guy' romances.
: <

 

Depends on what you think ;)



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Had another one of my odd little random thoughts; what if the reason Solas wants to help is not because he is concerned for Thedas but that he wants to protect the Fade.   Obviously Thedosians are worried about the implications for themselves should the rift become irreversible and the material world and the Fade sort of merge into one but Solas thinks of the Fade as a fascinating, wondrous place, provided you enter it in the right frame of mind, so what becomes of this otherworld when it is no longer "other"?    For example, in the Chant of Light it almost seems as if it is the Magisters who corrupt that piece of the Fade by coming into contact with it, not the other way around and then the mixing of the two creates the darkspawn.    Solas may not agree with the Chant of Light take on the place but the reality of what happens when the two converge may not be so far from it.    

 

Note: I realise that the trailer seem to suggest the Inquisitor has actually physically been in the Fade but may be Solas can explain something of what occurred there too.

 

I would say the bolded part is very possible. His character summary does mention that the Breach is having an effect on "all worlds" and that his knowledge could make the difference between salvation and utter destruction. So whatever is going on seems like it could be affecting the Fade adversely as well.


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But I thought there were no 'bad guy' romances.
: <

 

It would be a pretty big spoiler if they said there was one, right?  Although I am firmly in the "don't get your hopes up for anything romance related" camp for DA:I.


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This is just a thought, but wouldn't the Fade cease to exist if the Breach was left unattended? The physical world is controlled by things like the laws of physics, spirits/demons can't exist for long without being in a place where the Veil is thin or riding around in a possessed body so no Fade means those creatures will no longer exist.

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Not entirely true; both Asunder (Cole) and Masked Empire (Imshael) seem to suggest the idea that powerful spirits can exist independent of their host.   Obviously we're not clear exactly what is going on with Cole but when Imshael was released from the spirit trap he was able to stay in the material world without a host, even if he would rather have had one.    Later he is persuaded to leave the person he is currently possessing but doesn't return to the Fade.    So some spirits/demons can exist and that is why they are pouring into the material world through the breach.    What may be more serious for the Fade (and Thedas) is that it is shaped to some extent by the emotions, dreams and memories of morals and mixing it with the material world could create some sort of living nightmare.    I definitely do think it is just as bad for the Fade for the veil no longer to exist as it is for Thedas, so I'm not too worried about the possibility of Solas turning traitor because he would not want the Fade harmed or changed for the worse.


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