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[Cee]

It's interesting that people have gravitated toward the Anders romance out of wanting to help him. My Hawke's version of helping him was to rival him the whole game through her insistence that he was possessed and couldn't control Justice the way he thought. Best analogy I can come up with is an alcoholic who knows they get out of hand sometimes but still don't think they have a "problem." She thought it would be best for Anders to acknowledge that there was a problem and that it was worse than he thought. And then, once he made that realization, the two of them could start at rock bottom and work their way toward fixing things. She wanted to be his friend, but his refusal to acknowledge just how bad things were caused a lot of tension.

 

No, you're right, and I do find parallels in addicts and the sometimes desperate situation friends and lovers can find themselves in when they love someone who is struggling and sometimes motivated to do terrible or wildly unhealthy things as a result. That's why it felt kind of right within the totally screwed up, helplessness of the entirety of Hawke's situation in the game.

 

And, as sable mentioned, even people who make terrible choices are still people and feel and love and suffer and exist. And sometimes others love them too, even if that means a trainwreck spiral.

 

About 20 years ago, when I was a little girl, my mom loved a guy who turned out to be an addict. I did not understand a lot at the time.  She really did love the guy, but eventually broke it off. I don't know if he ever got help.  I think I may have put some of those memories from the into the Andersmance because of how ill-fated and desperate it all felt.

[CapricornSun]

It was the game that made me go read The Masked Empire, so coming from that perspective, it was just not addressed very well in terms of the rebellion. And news would've gotten out. I think they did a better job of getting Cole's story and origins and some of the events of Asunder into the game (now that I've finally also read that) than the Halamshiral background. Though man, I really wish more of the war table missions were more like the Sutherland line. Going out to find and help Rhys & Evangeline would've been so good.

 

 

Same. Though I seem to always gravitate toward the most story-relevant romance without trying. And often, this seems to mean sadness.

 

I agree with you on that war table mission thing. The Sutherland war table missions were great. Being able to personally help Rhys and Evangeline would have been awesome (even though I've never read Asunder, but that's another thing entirely).

 

And yeah, I tend to gravitate towards story-relevant romances unintentionally as well. xD I should probably learn by now that they'll usually end up breaking your heart, one way or another. 

[Heidirs]

I think I'm already expecting most, if not all, of my canon romances to have no happy ending at this point...

 

Hmm. I wonder if I should change my canon playthrough of Origins to have Alistair and Liara break up when she decides to spare Loghain's life...

 

Damn, I don't know if I can handle something that heartbreaking. It's so much easier just to break up with him after learning he's in line for the throne and romance Zervan.

[Cee]

Speaking of characters people dislike. Loghain always dies for me. I cannot bear what that does to Alistair.

You'd think having a Warden go and become queen would result in a nice, stable, kind of happy relationship, but no, most stable definitely goes to Zevran.

[Cee]

I agree with you on that war table mission thing. The Sutherland war table missions were great. Being able to personally help Rhys and Evangeline would have been awesome (even though I've never read Asunder, but that's another thing entirely).

 

And yeah, I tend to gravitate towards story-relevant romances unintentionally as well. xD I should probably learn by now that they'll usually end up breaking your heart, one way or another. 

 

 

Asunder is really good, though it gave me even more Cole feels when I wasn't aware that was possible.

[CapricornSun]

Hmm. I wonder if I should change my canon playthrough of Origins to have Alistair and Liara break up when she decides to spare Loghain's life...

 

Damn, I don't know if I can handle something that heartbreaking. It's so much easier just to break up with him after learning he's in line for the throne and romance Zervan.

 

I can't ever imagine changing my canon playthrough of any DA game. Mostly because I've already accepted that whatever I did in my first playthrough of each game will be the canon story of my PC. xD But then again, I'm weird like that so if you feel like you want to change your canon, feel free.

 

Also, I tried sparing Loghain once as an experiment to see how it all goes down with Alistair... Never again (even though I do find Loghain as a character quite fascinating).

[CapricornSun]

Asunder is really good, though it gave me even more Cole feels when I wasn't aware that was possible.

 

Ah, I really need to read that book. My sister's mother-in-law just arrived from the US along with some of the DA books we've ordered -- Asunder, Last Flight, and The Art of Dragon Age: Inquisition (which is a late birthday gift from my sis and her hubby) so it won't be long before I could finally read them. (I just need to meet up with my sis so she could give me the books.)

[Illyria]

Speaking of characters people dislike. Loghain always dies for me. I cannot bear what that does to Alistair.

You'd think having a Warden go and become queen would result in a nice, stable, kind of happy relationship, but no, most stable definitely goes to Zevran.

 

I'd rather execute Eamon for he did to Alistair.  The fact that Alistair is grateful for being made to sleep in the kennels and sent off to the Templers because Eamon's wife didn't want him around and there's no option to ever call him out on this is just wrong.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Same. Though I seem to always gravitate toward the most story-relevant romance without trying. And often, this seems to mean sadness.

 

I think I'm already expecting most, if not all, of my canon romances to have no happy ending at this point...

 

Warden!Alistair, Anders, and Solas.  I'm good at dating, you guys! 

 

I tend to pick the less story-relevant romances for my second playthroughs, and those are generally better.  We don't talk about Zev and my Tabris, but Hawke/Izzy and Adaar/Dorian are doing just fine.

[Illyria]

I can't ever imagine changing my canon playthrough of any DA game. Mostly because I've already accepted that whatever I did in my first playthrough of each game will be the canon story of my PC. xD But then again, I'm weird like that so if you feel like you want to change your canon, feel free.

 

Also, I tried sparing Loghain once as an experiment to see how it all goes down with Alistair... Never again (even though I do find Loghain as a character quite fascinating).

 

My canon DAO playthrough is actually my third completed one.  And I have two versions of it! (one is an Alistair romance, he stays a Warden, Dark Ritual is performed and Architect lives and the other is a Leliana romance, Alistair is king, Loghain dies against the Archdemon and the Architect is dead). 
 

[Sable Rhapsody]

I'd rather execute Eamon for he did to Alistair.  The fact that Alistair is grateful for being made to sleep in the kennels and sent off to the Templers because Eamon's wife didn't want him around and there's no option to ever call him out on this is just wrong.

 

At least you can throw a wrench in all of Eamon's plans by making Anora queen on her own, and keeping Alistair with the Wardens.  His disappointed bitchy comments were the highlight of the Landsmeet for me 

 

I suppose alternatively you could have the Warden marry or be Alistair's mistress, then install herself as chancellor to block Eamon out of all political influence.

[Heidirs]

I can't ever imagine changing my canon playthrough of any DA game. Mostly because I've already accepted that whatever I did in my first playthrough of each game will be the canon story of my PC. xD But then again, I'm weird like that so if you feel like you want to change your canon, feel free.

 

My first playthrough, I actually quit after the Landsmeet because I killed Loghain and kept Alistair as a Warden (because he wasn't hardened and didn't want it). I realized that wasn't what I wanted so I started all over again and did the romance Alistair half way, break up, and romance Zevran, spare Loghain, Alistair married Anora playthrough. And I was much happier with that. But in your case of the first playthrough being your canon, I never actually finished mine.   I do wonder a bit how much of my romancing Zevrin is because I love Zevrin or because I can't be with Alistair.  I'm honestly not 100% sure.

 

 

Also, I tried sparing Loghain once as an experiment to see how it all goes down with Alistair... Never again (even though I do find Loghain as a character quite fascinating). 

 

Yeah, that scene gives me no joy. Who knew Alistair could yell so much? 

[Heidirs]

At least you can throw a wrench in all of Eamon's plans by making Anora queen on her own, and keeping Alistair with the Wardens.  His disappointed bitchy comments were the highlight of the Landsmeet for me 

 

I suppose alternatively you could have the Warden marry or be Alistair's mistress, then install herself as chancellor to block Eamon out of all political influence.

 

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[MoonDrummer]

Speaking of characters people dislike. Loghain always dies for me. I cannot bear what that does to Alistair.

Also, I tried sparing Loghain once as an experiment to see how it all goes down with Alistair... Never again

 

I'd rather execute Eamon for he did to Alistair.  The fact that Alistair is grateful for being made to sleep in the kennels and sent off to the Templers because Eamon's wife didn't want him around and there's no option to ever call him out on this is just wrong.

I blame Maric for that one, who thinks its a good idea to drop your bastard child on your brother-in-law? Really, that could be viewed as a political insult, and given that Thedas back in DA:O was more gritty, shitty and GRRM-y, I think Alistair was treated about as well as you could hope. 

[CapricornSun]

Warden!Alistair, Anders, and Solas.  I'm good at dating, you guys! 

 

I tend to pick the less story-relevant romances for my second playthroughs, and those are generally better.  We don't talk about Zev and my Tabris, but Hawke/Izzy and Adaar/Dorian are doing just fine.

 

I tend to play human males for my second playthroughs. Don't ask why it's never dwarf males or elven males or qunari males, I just do. xD I have m!Cousland/Leliana (but he was originally with Morrigan), m!Hawke/Merrill, and m!Trev/Cass. I guess they're gonna be fine? Maybe? At least compared to my canon romances.

 

My canon DAO playthrough is actually my third completed one.  And I have two versions of it! (one is an Alistair romance, he stays a Warden, Dark Ritual is performed and Architect lives and the other is a Leliana romance, Alistair is king, Loghain dies against the Archdemon and the Architect is dead). 
 

 

It's good to have alternatives. I'm just... gonna live with the consequences of whatever actions I took with my playthrough... It's gonna hurt bad, I know it...

 

My first playthrough, I actually quit after the Landsmeet because I killed Loghain and kept Alistair as a Warden (because he wasn't hardened and didn't want it). I realized that wasn't what I wanted so I started all over again and did the romance Alistair half way, break up, and romance Zevran, spare Loghain, Alistair married Anora playthrough. And I was much happier with that. But in your case of the first playthrough being your canon, I never actually finished mine.   I do wonder a bit how much of my romancing Zevrin is because I love Zevrin or because I can't be with Alistair.  I'm honestly not 100% sure.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, that scene gives me no joy. Who knew Alistair could yell so much? 

 

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Believe me, whenever I replay my canon playthroughs for nostalgia's sake, I say to myself, "I'm gonna make different choices this time!" I always end up thinking later on, "No, no, no! That's not how her story went the first time! What you're doing now is wrong! Go back and choose whatever it was you chose the first time around" 

 

Like I said, I'm weird.

 

And yes, Alistair yelling... I felt so horrible...

 

 

 

 

Sorry MD. I do like Loghain, but Alibear comes first.

[CapricornSun]

Art break!

 

Sweet Talker.

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http://didiher.tumbl...36/sweet-talker

 

 

PLAYELF (slightly NSFW-ish?)

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http://bloodhype.tum...ing-else-to-say

 

 

A nice Solas sketch.

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http://duck-dumpling...vourite-egghead

 

[Cee]

That magazine cover.

[Cee]

Clicking on the new Leliana thread that popped up and going nope and remembering why I stay in here most of the time. 

[Junebug]

I like how he looks all surprised yet he picked up a copy 'cause he misses the booty hahaha.

 

also..."Fenris fisting tips"

I'm so done.

[legbamel]

Hevara & Solas - the smell of spring

Solas & Michel de Chevin - post apocalyptic AU

Solas & Cullen - sweaty palms

Michel de Chevin & Cole - the absence of fear

Anders & Cole - one last wish (This... I have feels).

I'd read he hell out of the Michel/Cole one but that last prompt? My brain immediately pictured Anders asking Cole to kill him so Hawke didn't have to do it. Now I have to go hide in the restroom for a few minutes in case I start crying.

ETA: ToP and I'm on my phone! Instead of a pic how about an on-topic question--I've always thought our companiona had bedrooms, even if we didn't get to see all of them. What do you think Solas keeps in his, particularly as he as an "office" in the rotunda?

[Heidirs]

 

I blame Maric for that one, who thinks its a good idea to drop your bastard child on your brother-in-law? Really, that could be viewed as a political insult, and given that Thedas back in DA:O was more gritty, shitty and GRRM-y, I think Alistair was treated about as well as you could hope. 

 

I do tend to give Emon some slack with how Alistair was raised. I mean, Isolde thought Alistair was Emon's child - that he had cheated on her and was landed with a bastard son. That could not have been good for family relations as it was. To have accepted Alistair into his home, Emon probably would have lost his wife and son, and who knows what would have happened politically. I think he did the best the he could under the circumstances.

 

I haven't read The Calling yet but it does seem like Marric is the one to be more upset with if he just handed Alistair off and said, "Here. You deal with it."

 

That said, I thought his political movements in regard for getting Alistair on the throne were a little shady. Like, is that all you freaking care about? Alistair is standing right there and this whole fiasco about whose son he is is over with. You have nothing a little more caring to say?

 

I would have loved to have kept Alistair off the throne just to spite him, but not putting him on the throne and sparing Loghain makes Alistair a wandering drunk, and I can't accept that. And I do think he and Anora balance each other out. 

 

 

Believe me, whenever I replay my canon playthroughs for nostalgia's sake, I say to myself, "I'm gonna make different choices this time!" I always end up thinking later on, "No, no, no! That's not how her story went the first time! What you're doing now is wrong! Go back and choose whatever it was you chose the first time around" 

 

Like I said, I'm weird.

 

See, I do the exact same thing after I establish what I consider to be my canon playthrough. It just might take me a few tries because I get the game where I want it, and I then I have to play the same thing over and over because that just how it goes.

[CapricornSun]

Clicking on the new Leliana thread that popped up and going nope and remembering why I stay in here most of the time. 

 

Something bad happened?  I'd look, but I don't know if I want to.

[Heidirs]

Something bad happened?  I'd look, but I don't know if I want to.

 

It's someone advocating for Liliana to be romancable in Inquisition and a bunch of people responding "no,"

[Cee]

I'd read he hell out of the Michel/Cole one but that last prompt? My brain immediately pictured Anders asking Cole to kill him so Hawke didn't have to do it. Now I have to go hide in the restroom for a few minutes in case I start crying.

ETA: ToP and I'm on my phone! Instead of a pic how about an on-topic question--I've always thought our companiona had bedrooms, even if we didn't get to see all of them. What do you think Solas keeps in his, particularly as he as an "office" in the rotunda?

 

The Anders/Cole prompt gave me such feelings and I think I have to do something with it.

 

As far as that, I do think they have bedrooms. Though Sera and Vivienne and Blackwall are pretty much in theirs. I don't know if Solas, who speaks of a bedroll, spreads his on the floor of the rotunda or has a separate room. The rotunda seems to be quite personal for him. Cassandra also has a bedroll and she sleeps above the forge.

[Sable Rhapsody]

ETA: ToP and I'm on my phone! Instead of a pic how about an on-topic question--I've always thought our companiona had bedrooms, even if we didn't get to see all of them. What do you think Solas keeps in his, particularly as he as an "office" in the rotunda?

 

There's a bunch of empty bedrooms all over Skyhold; I figured that when the Inquisition arrives, the Inner Circle just all call dibs on both their normal "hang-out" areas and the bedrooms.

 

Solas in my headcanon has a bedroom close to the garden, and sometimes leaves his windows open so he can smell the flowers.  But most of the time he just falls asleep on the couch in the rotunda because he's been up too late reading or painting, and the couch is REALLY comfy.  After he and my Lavellan are comfortable in their relationship, he pretty much abandons that bedroom and sleeps in her quarters when he's not in the rotunda.