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[Cee]

Unrelated: I tried DAMP for the first time and really enjoyed it.

 

I tried it for the first time last weekend before this new content and did not quite enjoy it much but there was no one with me and it tossed me into a match alone, as a Keeper. Then an archer appeared after two rooms and we got swarmed by demons and died. I do plan to try again, but the unlocks for classes are super annoying. I wanted to play my usual class (Assassin, but it's locked) and you have almost no abilities. So going to try going in as duelist next and hopefully getting enough to unlock Assassin.

[Felya87]

It is never clear what he wants or intends to do, but from what we can piece together, the condition and state of the elves in modern Thedas is an indirect result of what he did, so he likely wants to help them in some way (whether that will go well or not is another story). He tells Flemeth when he goes to get Mythal's power  that he should pay the price for what he has done but "the People need me"....meaning elves. He was weakened in the beginning of the game so he needed to unlock and restore his power to do...whatever he plans to do.

 

 

 

You know why I find it strange? because he seem to became interested in doing something for the elves only after the Temple. Before, he seem to be only angry to the Dalish and pity the City Elves. He doesn't seem to be in any way interested in helping any of them. It seem like he tried to talk to the Dalish, and when he tryed to tell them something, they just send him away, maybe attached, and surely insulted him.

 

He doesn't like them, and doesn't want to help them. Actually, I think he doesn't really have to help them. Somehow, the situation as sad and bad as it is, is quite stable for both City and Dalish after Cory is gone.

He became interested in the world only after stayng in the Inquisition for a while. So I think whatever he want/have to do is something he have decided to act about only after the Temple, and not before.

[legbamel]

The great thing about killing Anders is that Seb and Aveline can stay friends!

That's not why I kill Anders but it's a side benefit to avoid having to humiliate Seb so badly. He's a cute little thing, throwing his tantrum at the cost of other people's lives, but I prefer him sane.

I'm actually into all three of the DA2 guys for different reasons. Right now I've got Anders plotty pron and a Hawke/Fenris novelization with a side of friend!Sebastian going but I've written Hawke with all three, concurrently, consecutively, or exclusively. I'm just feeling protective of Anders after the dislike he's been getting here lately.

[Sable Rhapsody]

That's not why I kill Anders but it's a side benefit to avoid having to humiliate Seb so badly. He's a cute little thing, throwing his tantrum at the cost of other people's lives, but I prefer him sane.

I'm actually into all three of the DA2 guys for different reasons. Right now I've got Anders plotty pron and a Hawke/Fenris novelization with a side of friend!Sebastian going but I've written Hawke with all three, concurrently, consecutively, or exclusively. I'm just feeling protective of Anders after the dislike he's been getting here lately.

 

I love all three of the guys as well, as characters and as LIs.  They're all so nutty and problematic but also very human.  So I find it very hard to dislike them, even if I do like to do horrible things to them in my canon   I guess Fenris is fine.  He's run off to be a pirate with Izzy.

 

 

You know why I find it strange? because he seem to became interested in doing something for the elves only after the Temple. Before, he seem to be only angry to the Dalish and pity the City Elves. He doesn't seem to be in any way interested in helping any of them. It seem like he tried to talk to the Dalish, and when he tryed to tell them something, they just send him away, maybe attached, and surely insulted him.

 

That's not the impression that I got.  IMO after listening to his disapproval conversation about the elves, I got the impression that he wants to help them, but just doesn't know how.  He's bitter and jaded and frustrated with the modern elves, but that doesn't prevent him from wanting to better their lot.  His comments vary based on the Inquisitor's race and responses, but you can get him to say things like, "For my part, I will do what I can."  And a Dalish elf can even get him to admit that he's better off trying to reach a few elves than helping none at all.

[Cee]

You know why I find it strange? because he seem to became interested in doing something for the elves only after the Temple. Before, he seem to be only angry to the Dalish and pity the City Elves. He doesn't seem to be in any way interested in helping any of them. It seem like he tried to talk to the Dalish, and when he tryed to tell them something, they just send him away, maybe attached, and surely insulted him.

 

He doesn't like them, and doesn't want to help them. Actually, I think he doesn't really have to help them. Somehow, the situation as sad and bas as it is, is quite stable for both City and Dalish after Cory is gone.

He became interested in the world only after stayng in the Inquisition for a while. So I think whatever he want/have to do is something he have decided to act about only after the Temple, and not before.

 

No, he wanted to unlock his orb because he wanted to do...something to help. This stuff weighs upon his mind long before the temple. Solas' banter with Cole is one place where we get hints of the inner conflict Solas carries.

 

     Cole: You don't need to envy me, Solas. You can find happiness in your own way.
    Solas: I apologize for disturbing you, Cole. I am not a spirit, and sometimes it is hard to remember such simple truths.
    Cole: They are not gone so long as you remember them.
    Solas: I know.
    Cole: But you could let them go.
    Solas: I know that as well.
    Cole: You didn't do it to be right. You did it to save them.
    Inquisitor: Solas, what is Cole talking about?
    Solas: A mistake. One of many made by a much younger elf who was certain he knew everything.
    Cole: You weren't wrong, though.

    Solas: Thank you, Cole.

 

 

Though one can argue that Solas' time with the Inquisition personalizes the people of Thedas, and has made him question certain assumptions he had made based on limited knowledge or judgments. They're more 'real' to him individually and he has learned something.

 

Whether people are still pawns on a chess board  after that, well, we'll see what he actually does.

 

But all of this weighed upon Solas from the beginning, which was why he tried to get his power back. If he had gotten his power back first, I wonder what might have happened without those experiences he had with The Inquisition....given his positions that he has learned from by game's end.

[Felya87]

The great thing about killing Anders is that Seb and Aveline can stay friends!

Since I can't stand Sebastian, Anders got a saviour.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Since I can't stand Sebastian, Anders got a saviour.

 

But he's SO FLUFFY

source: http://rabbitzoro.deviantart.com/

[Illyria]

That's not why I kill Anders but it's a side benefit to avoid having to humiliate Seb so badly. He's a cute little thing, throwing his tantrum at the cost of other people's lives, but I prefer him sane.

I'm actually into all three of the DA2 guys for different reasons. Right now I've got Anders plotty pron and a Hawke/Fenris novelization with a side of friend!Sebastian going but I've written Hawke with all three, concurrently, consecutively, or exclusively. I'm just feeling protective of Anders after the dislike he's been getting here lately.

 

I don't hate Anders!

 

I...

 

okay, yes, I hate Anders.

 

Since I can't stand Sebastian, Anders got a saviour.

 

Poor Sebby.  He seems to get a lot of hate from DA fans.

[Cee]

 

That's not the impression that I got.  IMO after listening to his disapproval conversation about the elves, I got the impression that he wants to help them, but just doesn't know how.  He's bitter and jaded and frustrated with the modern elves, but that doesn't prevent him from wanting to better their lot.  His comments vary based on the Inquisitor's race and responses, but you can get him to say things like, "For my part, I will do what I can."  And a Dalish elf can even get him to admit that he's better off trying to reach a few elves than helping none at all.

 

Yes, this. He's frustrated and remember that some clans might be super arrogant. We don't know what his approach was like (other than WHAT'S UP NERDS). And he's been called a liar, a fool, and a madman. He also can't just be like "Hey, I'm Fen'Harel, and despite all that terrible PR over the centuries, I'm actually a flawed, but caring and well-intentioned kind of guy."

 

He doesn't know how to help them in their current state and it has worn on him.

 

Some of the scenes of Solas talking to an Inquisitor he dislikes are given such depth of pain that further prove what a fantastic voice actor GDL is.
 

[Sable Rhapsody]

Poor Sebby.  He seems to get a lot of hate from DA fans.

 

The DA2 cast in general get fandom hate for being their crazy selves.  Which I think is a shame, because the polarizing nature of the characters is what I love about them. 

 

The worst characters aren't the ones that inspire hate.  The worst characters are the ones that get a "meh" in response.  Characters that inspire extremes of emotion are IMO the most interesting ones, and it's perfectly possible to hate a character, and still appreciate their power as a character.  Casavir from NWN2, for instance, though that's an Obsidian game.  F***ing hate that guy.  Still think he's a great character.

[CapricornSun]

But he's SO FLUFFY

source: http://rabbitzoro.deviantart.com/

 

Aww. xD

 

Speaking of fluffy... Anders, Cullen, and Solas could be fluffy too.

 

SOURCE

 

[Illyria]

The DA2 cast in general get fandom hate for being their crazy selves.  Which I think is a shame, because the polarizing nature of the characters is what I love about them. 

 

The worst characters aren't the ones that inspire hate.  The worst characters are the ones that get a "meh" in response.  Characters that inspire extremes of emotion are IMO the most interesting ones, and it's perfectly possible to hate a character, and still appreciate their power as a character.  Casavir from NWN2, for instance, though that's an Obsidian game.  F***ing hate that guy.  Still think he's a great character.

 

I like Seb because he's the only one in the team without a huge dark side and he really tries to get on well with the other party members.  Sometimes this is sucessful (his friendship with Fenris is really sweet) sometimes it isn't (his attempts to reach out to Merrill with the possibility of connected gods leads to confusion).

[Junebug]

Unrelated: I tried DAMP for the first time and really enjoyed it.

Yeah, I actually really like it...although, I rarely get stuff meant for mages -__________- And Virtuoso is really fun. Finally a mage that can cast and walk at the same time

[Cee]

Yeah, I actually really like it...although, I rarely get stuff meant for mages -__________- And Virtuoso is really fun. Finally a mage that can cast and walk at the same time

 

Added bonus of more Weekes writing.

 

I'll unlock him at some point, but I need my assassin first.

[Kestrel]

The DA2 cast in general get fandom hate for being their crazy selves.  Which I think is a shame, because the polarizing nature of the characters is what I love about them. 

 

The worst characters aren't the ones that inspire hate.  The worst characters are the ones that get a "meh" in response.  Characters that inspire extremes of emotion are IMO the most interesting ones, and it's perfectly possible to hate a character, and still appreciate their power as a character.  Casavir from NWN2, for instance, though that's an Obsidian game.  F***ing hate that guy.  Still think he's a great character.

 

I was pretty meh about most of the DA2 characters. >.> They just did nothing for me. 

[legbamel]

OMG, that hurts me with cute!

I wonder if there isn't a perceptible change in Solas's attitude once he discovers at the temple that the ancient sentinals still exist. I hadn't noticed one but I wasn't looking for it, either.

[Caddius]

Hello again.
Well, Cory does comment about Solas. Sorry for ruining your cannon .



And maybe he's able to make Cole forget because he took Mythal's power, no ?

My job is done.
*returns to lurk in the shadow*
 

Thank you.

I'm so pleased that Racist Old Man Cory managed to go out in a blaze of elf-baiting glory.

So either Solas let Corypheus take the Orb, or he did it in disguise. Letting him take it himself seems like the kind of thing Solas would do.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I like Seb because he's the only one in the team without a huge dark side and he really tries to get on well with the other party members.  Sometimes this is sucessful (his friendship with Fenris is really sweet) sometimes it isn't (his attempts to reach out to Merrill with the possibility of connected gods leads to confusion).

 

Well, he gives up on Anders.  But to be fair, so does everyone else by Act 3, except for Varric.  And with good reason.  I love that nutty apostate, but he's a colossal ass.

 

 

I was pretty meh about most of the DA2 characters. >.> They just did nothing for me. 

 

They do hit the Angst Dissonance point for a lot of players, and I can see why.  Especially Anders and Fenris.  

[Rhoxi]

I'm just feeling protective of Anders after the dislike he's been getting here lately.

 

*suddenly appears in a poof of smoke*

 

I'm sorry, did someone call for the Anders defense squad? I am here!

[Junebug]

I'll unlock him at some point, but I need my assassin first.

Yayy! If you ever want a buddy, add me sometime (JunebugVhenan—goes to anyone here, lurker or regular poster )!

 

Top post:

Someone made edits of what it would've been like if BW kept the original concepts:

 

Spoiler

 

 

More (Cassandra and Sera) here.

 

Kinda wish they kept it but I see why they didn't. I think they look better swarthier and I will never deny more poc in any game :3

[Cee]

*suddenly appears in a poof of smoke*

 

I'm sorry, did someone call for the Anders defense squad? I am here!

 

I've also taken up this banner.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I've also taken up this banner.

 

I've got a foot in the love and the hate camp.  So...half the banner?

[Caddius]

I've got a foot in the love and the hate camp.  So...half the banner?

A pennant. You've got a pennant.

[Cee]

I've got a foot in the love and the hate camp.  So...half the banner?

 

I have many feels, which is often the case. Some of those feels include frustration and anger. But there's a foundation of understanding. And as a player, Awakening and then the shift....well, that laid that foundation.

 

But for you, yes.

[Illyria]

*suddenly appears in a poof of smoke*

 

I'm sorry, did someone call for the Anders defense squad? I am here!

 

 

I've also taken up this banner.

 

 

I've got a foot in the love and the hate camp.  So...half the banner?

 

*silently judges you all*

 

Except Sable.  Only half judging you.