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[Sable Rhapsody]

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VGS @VGS_640  ·  2h 2 hours ago

#Biowarechat There is one cut in @dragonage inquisition where there is a "Quest for Solas" epilogue @davidgaider
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I WANT IT NOW.

 

They better have cut it figuring, "You know what?  This is better served as a 20 hour expansion.  And at the end you get to grab HIS damn booty!" 

[Cee]

Another thing that is intriguing me. I saw this post on Tumblr:

http://fenharelenasa...otif-and-let-me

 

and this is something I've wondered about myself before. It may be nothing, but maybe one of you is better at this and can pin it down.

[Heidirs]

Another thing that is intriguing me. I saw this post on Tumblr:

http://fenharelenasa...otif-and-let-me

 

and this is something I've wondered about myself before. It may be nothing, but maybe one of you is better at this and can pin it down.

 

One of the comments says "it’s the cello repetition in the beginning of the Elder One Theme and it’s interspersed through the whole soundtrack"

 

EDIT: https://youtu.be/AUFDsMe1asA

 

You can start to hear the cellos around 0:47. Maybe that's what they are talking about.

[ChuChu]

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VGS @VGS_640 · 2h 2 hours ago
#Biowarechat There is one cut in @dragonage inquisition where there is a "Quest for Solas" epilogue @davidgaider
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I WANT IT NOW.

Wait wait. Did this drop today? Who wants to bet some Bioware puppet masters will be peeping their heads in here all silent like, to see how badly they've poked the bee's nest??

I really hope that foreshadows some positive vibes for DLC -- team optimism ftw!!

-insert Lavellan waving tiny flag picture-

[Cee]

One of the comments says "it’s the cello repetition in the beginning of the Elder One Theme and it’s interspersed through the whole soundtrack"

 

Hmm. I have heard repeated motifs but wasn't sure which was being referred to. The Elder One Theme is one of the highlights, IMO, but I've come to really like the whole thing.

 

edit: Actually, I meant to post that here earlier and that comment wasn't there at the time. Serves me for not refreshing the tab that has been open for hours.

[Cee]

Wait wait. Did this drop today? Who wants to bet some Bioware puppet masters will be peeping their heads in here all silent like, to see how badly they've poked the bee's best??

I really hope that Foreshadows some positive vibes for DLC -- team optimism ftw!!

 

 

Weekes does the interview next with them, and the complete thing will be posted eventually, so can't wait for that.

[ChuChu]

Weekes does the interview next with them, and the complete thing will be posted eventually, so can't wait for that.

-mutters about iPhone putting best instead of nest-
You correct that quote right now, Cee! I will fight you. With weak happy fists of hope.

[Illyria]

So according to David Gaider earlier there was originally going to be a quest to find Solas in the epilogue... Hmmmm...

 

What?  Awesome.  Source?

 

I've heard rumors in the Twitter thread and the like about Bioware hinting that the next DLC will involve the Deep Roads? Which I'm all for.

 

please be Kal Sharok.  Please, Bioware.

[Illyria]

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VGS @VGS_640  ·  2h 2 hours ago

#Biowarechat There is one cut in @dragonage inquisition where there is a "Quest for Solas" epilogue @davidgaider
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I WANT IT NOW.

 

*grabby hands intensifies*

[Cee]

*grabby hands intensifies*

 

I quoted and retweeted it with a *serious grabby hands*.

 

Because someone needs to ninja that cut out of the BioWare offices.

[Char]

Weekes does the interview next with them, and the complete thing will be posted eventually, so can't wait for that.

Weekes' interview was yesterday, only caught some of the Twitter teasers though. Think there is another one to come I think though and of course the videos will be up soon

[Cee]

Weekes' interview was yesterday, only caught some of the Twitter teasers though. Think there is another one to come I think though and of course the videos will be up soon

 

I thought it was, but then I remember something was postponed a day and I thought  his was. I'll have to look back.

[Illyria]

Weekes' interview was yesterday, only caught some of the Twitter teasers though. Think there is another one to come I think though and of course the videos will be up soon

 

*excitement intensifies*

[Caddius]

What?  Awesome.  Source?

 

 

please be Kal Sharok.  Please, Bioware.

We did get a cameo with them, complete with them apparently coming out of the ground to take down the Venatori.

[Cee]

Yayy! If you ever want a buddy, add me sometime (JunebugVhenan—goes to anyone here, lurker or regular poster )!

 

 

My Origin acct with all my BW games is under Karmagical (which is really silly but whatever, I like wordplay and picked that years ago). I updated the avatar on my account from Origins Leliana to Inquisition Leliana recently.

[Junebug]

My Origin acct with all my BW games is under Karmagical (which is really silly but whatever, I like wordplay and picked that years ago). I updated the avatar on my account from Origins Leliana to Inquisition Leliana recently.

Awesome. Added ya

[RynJ]

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VGS @VGS_640  ·  2h 2 hours ago

#Biowarechat There is one cut in @dragonage inquisition where there is a "Quest for Solas" epilogue @davidgaider
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I WANT IT NOW.

 

I love popping in here and seeing awesome things!

 

Though I wonder if in that original quest, we don't actually find Solas. That's likely. We probably find some kind of hint, though, and maybe a lead into future content!

[Caddius]

I love popping in here and seeing awesome things!

 

Though I wonder if in that original quest, we don't actually find Solas. That's likely. We probably find some kind of hint, though, and maybe a lead into future content!

Could be like the end of Witch Hunt.

A thirty second conversation, then he steps through an Eluvian. If you romance him, you get to follow him.

Post-credits for Solavellans, you end up in a hellscape battling all of the trapped elven gods as high-powered bosses. (June drops the best crafting schematics.)

A day in the life of Fen'harel.

[Siha]

So, I had some time today and I played with a vector program (I know, I know. But I get obsessive over new toys. It'll be over soon, I promise.)

 

This is what I had wanted to draw (alright, I had wanted to draw more clothes, but I am lazy):

 

But then DJ Shuffle picked Tom Jones's Delilah and.... I don't know what happened, really! But when I looked again, it was this.

(And Delilah should be taken as a fair warning before clicking. No complaints later! )

 

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[Sable Rhapsody]

Post-credits for Solavellans, you end up in a hellscape battling all of the trapped elven gods as high-powered bosses. (June drops the best crafting schematics.)

 

Oh June.  Beloved glamour toad.  Sorry, but gamer greed for crafting schematics will always win out over my love for you and your brethren.

[EnaShepard]

I commissioned static-byte on tumblr, so here's her drawing of my Coria Lavellan & Solas, of course! It illustrates the end of my first fanfiction =D

Source: http://static-byte.t...yhold-i-have-so

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[Caddius]

Oh June.  Beloved glamour toad.  Sorry, but gamer greed for crafting schematics will always win out over my love for you and your brethren.

But really, though. Can you imagine the sheer chaos that a full boss fight rush with the Creators would be?

With Hawke, the Hero of Ferelden, and Solas as your party members? 

BIOWARE: Let's throw awesome things at each other until the game explodes.

WEEKES: ...Um. David told me that the Creators ride undead griffons into battle. It's a lore thing. Trust me.

GAIDER: I never said anything about-

WEEKES: Well you shouldn't have left us, then! I am in command now!

[Caddius]

http://fenharelenasa...blr.com/page/12Found on this page.

I approve.

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And then there are the Profane. What the hell is up with the Profane?

At the most basic level, of course, they are a textbook example of why eating red lyrium is a bad idea (you wouldn’t think you would need to explain this to people, but somehow …).

They might just be spirits, of course. Another case like the various undead monsters you’ll end up fighting pretty much anywhere in Thedas. Spirits who so completely failed to grasp the difference between a living thing and a not living thing that they ended up possessing a rock.

But then, of course, there is this:

We who are forgotten, remember,
We clawed at rock until our fingers bled,
We cried out for justice, but were unheard.
Our children wept in hunger,
And so we feasted upon the gods.
Here we wait, in aeons of silence.
We few, we profane.
– The Profane
That puts things in rather a different light. These were people who were abandoned or imprisoned – left to starve in the Deep Roads, just as Hawke and her friends have been left. Eating red lyrium was either a last ditch effort to survive, or a deliberate choice to become monsters in order to avenge themselves. Or both. Why not both.

To their credit, they do seem aware that eating lyrium is not really a great thing to do, although maybe not for practical reasons. In doing it, they are ‘feasting upon the gods’ and ‘profane’. Lyrium represents the gods, or perhaps literally is a god (modern dwarves venerate ‘the Stone’, after all). The question is, was it eating the gods that made them profane, or were they profane before that, and so figured they had nothing to lose?

One problem is that dwarven society is really good at forgetting things when it wants to. I mean, every civilisation covers up the nasty stuff, but the dwarves have made an art form out of it.

But things of interest, regardless.

In dwarven mythology, Rock Wraiths – Profane – are dwarves so corrupt and awful that the Stone has rejected them. So, the casteless, then. Now, setting aside the fact that that’s a bloody odd thing to say about beings who seem to be literally made of rock, the idea of casteless becoming Rock Wraiths upon death is a bit silly. There are a lot of casteless, and Rock Wraiths are incredibly rare. My poor Hawke might have trouble believing this, given that they just mobbed her, but so the Codex says. But still, the idea is there.

There isn’t really an origin story for the casteless. Shaper Czibor will tell you a little story about dwarven brothers and how they formed the caste system. It’s almost certainly not in any way a true story, but it exists. The casteless, however, are aggressively forgotten. The Shaper looked my Brosca Warden right in the eye and told her that before she became a Grey Warden, she did not exist. Common dwarves, who can’t avoid noticing the casteless, will tell you a little bit more. They’ll say casteless are descended from criminals and outcasts who weren’t supposed to breed – but did anyway.

Whatever happened to the Profane, it was deliberate. You don’t ‘cry out for justice’ if you’ve been trapped in a cave in. You might cry out for help, or in despair, but natural disasters aren’t deliberately oppressing you. Someone trapped the Profane in this place. And they didn’t just trap the adults, who might just possibly have done something awful enough that the rest of the population had to lock them up and run, they trapped the children too. Whoever they were, the Profane weren’t meant to survive. There wasn’t supposed to be a next generation.

So I wonder if maybe some of them ate lyrium and became Rock Wraiths … and some very few found a way out, and tried to go back to their people.

The other thing of note is that apparently the tabletop RPG claims that Rock Wraiths have a connection to the Fade and are prone to possession. I don’t own that, so I’m just going by what is in the Wiki, and I don’t know what words it actually uses. But certainly the Rock Wraith I got a screenshot of here is possessed, and the Profane use a fair bit of magic: they’ve a tendency to summon shades and throw lightning around and generally make your life unpleasant.

In one sense, that’s unremarkable. They eat lyrium. Meredith held onto that lyrium idol for a few years and she was bringing statues to life. Lyrium is living magic. It gives you super powers.

But at the same time – however mutated, lost and strange they may be, these are almost certainly dwarves. Dwarves dreaming in the Fade. Dwarves doing magic. Dwarves getting possessed by demons. And they claim to have been trapped aeons ago. So long ago that their people might not have had Paragons or castes. That’s just bizarre.

So then I wonder – which came first?

Of all the societies in Thedas, I would say the dwarves most resemble the Qunari. They live by a religion that doesn’t care very much about gods or the Fade – although of course it has its own kind of mysticism. They have a rigid social structure in which everybody is expected to play a particular role – and woe betide anyone who has dreams of their own. They are intensely isolationist, and they are scientifically advanced. The details differ, of course. But the framework is the same.

The Qunari are utterly terrified of their mages – maybe even more so than the Chantry. Dwarves just don’t have any. Maybe they were more efficient at getting rid of them.

Then I think thematically. Dragon Age 2 is largely about the desperate things people do when they feel trapped, from the small-scale stories of Hawke’s friends to the large-scale fate of the world. It’s unfortunate that it’s a little light on the plight of the elves, but given how unfocused Inquisition was, perhaps it’s a good thing they decided to hone in on the plight of the mages.

In Kirkwall, some mages – like Orsino – choose to become monsters because they can see no other way to keep fighting. Some, like Evelina, become monsters because they are too frightened to think rationally. It’s not a question of blame. If you push people to breaking point, sometimes they break in ways that are … let’s say unpleasant for the people who are hurting them.

But I do rather wonder if we just found more imprisoned mages. They are profane. Cursed. Saarebas. The idea gets around.

Now, it’s worth backing up a minute. Lyrium is, after all, supposed to be very bad for mages – even worse than it is for an ordinary person, and it’s pretty awful for an ordinary person. But that assumes the Profane initially consumed raw lyrium. They may have done no such thing. Lyrium had religious significance for these dwarves, they may well have known how to prepare it. It is suggested that these dwarves are unique. By this point they are no longer flesh and blood, so the old rules don’t apply.

It’s also hard to timeline such creatures, but past a certain point I’m not willing to try. They are from very long ago, when the world was different.

Whatever went on with the Profane, they are … remarkable. They aren’t Red Templars, and they aren’t darkspawn. They are unique. And even if they weren’t lost mages before, they are now. They are dwarves who do magic. The cure in this instance isn’t anywhere near worth the price – but as proof that it could still be possible for them to do it? That is interesting.

(Emphasis mine)

Did you just propose the idea that the Profane are dwarven mages, long since discriminated and imprisoned within a Thaig…

Mind blown.

What more, this theory makes every bit of sense. That dwarves systematically went around imprisoning and condemning their mages within abandoned areas of the Deep Roads for what ever reason that came about. Not because mage oppression reasons (aka: “oh no it’s everywhere”…even though it is), rather because of all the evidence given to us in that Thaig.

Not to mention Sandal who was left alone in an isolated, abandoned Thaig (mind you one filled with glorious mosaics that further the idea of elves and dwarves sharing magic, from WoT2) as well, most likely addled from lyrium that he no doubt was forced to live off too and showing every bit of the signs to being a mage himself.

So yes, this one of the best theories I’ve seen put together on in this fandom and I’m actually really invested in this one now.

[Illyria]

We did get a cameo with them, complete with them apparently coming out of the ground to take down the Venatori.

 

And a wartable mission to go there.

[Illyria]

But really, though. Can you imagine the sheer chaos that a full boss fight rush with the Creators would be?

With Hawke, the Hero of Ferelden, and Solas as your party members? 

BIOWARE: Let's throw awesome things at each other until the game explodes.

WEEKES: ...Um. David told me that the Creators ride undead griffons into battle. It's a lore thing. Trust me.

GAIDER: I never said anything about-

WEEKES: Well you shouldn't have left us, then! I am in command now!

 

Weekes: Also the giffons are bred by a group of steampunk gnomes.  They speak in iambic pentameter.