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Art. :P

 

"You're said to have sex with spirits in the Fade. How was that?"

 

Anachronism.

 

The Wolf.

 

Solas, forever thankful that Lavellan's parents banged and made her.  :rolleyes:

 

Cute Solas and Lavellan by diealevtine done for osatokun.

 

Cute Dragon Age charms which could be found on the artist's Storenvy store.


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I laughed too hard at this: http://chocolateandp...k-there-were-no

 

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I laughed too hard at this: http://chocolateandp...k-there-were-no

 

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Oh my god... xD



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My question is: why is Lavellan taller than Solas in this scene? Dude's at least a head or two taller than Lavellan of either gender.


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I was also wondering why that was the case, but I still laughed.



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He's already the God of Dining Out and the God of Bad Decisions.  Now we can add God of Awkward Necking to the list.


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And my other favorite, God of Bad PR.


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Ahem. I know I'm super late to respond, but I was thinking about it. so...here it is. I fail so hard at drawing vallaslin and bodies and hands. (fracking hands!)..Mostly I just draw floating heads. I need so much practice. It would help if I actually used reference pictures..I just like to doodle (lazily) on my bed while my cat walks all over me.

 

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So, new song on my tragic heartbroken Solas playlist and thougth I would share.

 

No lyrics, just soundtrack music.

 

Feel the feels.

 

 

I think I need some help getting out of the heartbroken denial stage. What is stage 2 of Solavellan hell?

 

For that matter, what are all of the stages?

 

 


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I don't think there are actual stages...It's kind of just an unending spiral. :/ We're doomed.


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I wonder whether he did the artwork in the armoury and the stables, or was that one of the people working there? Both look a little more Ferelden than Elven, so maybe it was another aspring artist around Skyhold?

 

I know that the Inquisition is meant to look official, but part of me misses the random graffiti that Kirkwall had in DA2 and wishes more places in Skyhold had there own little murals painted by the people living there, to make it look a bit more lived in?

I wouldn't put too much stock in it...that particular painting (the one in the barn? with the bear and halla lady embracing?) is all over the place. There's one in Calenhad's Foothold and another in Crestwood, if I'm not mistaken. 

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The dwarves sure do seem to deal with demons a lot for people without mages.

Then there's Malvernis from Legacy. A pestilent creature that managed to corrupt the Stone itself and was imprisoned in the surface by a Paragon.

So you've the usual, "Well, we cut out the parts of society that drag us down" ruthless meritocracy part of their culture, and you've got the actual Blight creeping up the walls of the Deep Roads and the red lyrium that's starting to blossom and move up to the surface. (A giant plot point that was never addressed fully in Inquisition, much to my frustration.)

And in Fairel's Tombs, the Tevinter magisters seem astonished that dwarves were able to imprison demons and use them as guardians.

The Gangue Shade is a demon you can summon in Origins too, by wearing all the Legion of the Dead armor. There's clearly something funky going on with dwarves. The whole "severed arm" thing and Dagna's "have to be separate to use it" makes all my lore senses tingle.

 

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Chapter 14 of Message Sent is now up, by the way. :D

 

EDIT: So I finished reading. OMG, the author just loves teasing us. Evil genius she is. :P


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 Weeks remembers the line as "Why did u let Corypheus take your orb"  the diff between "gave" and "let" is huge if that is true regarding the fact that it was not intentional with him being week from his slumber and all that :) Eh who knows i guess we will see in future content or games :) Plus i was organizing my keep yesterday and played my story and then i saw this and to be shocked at first glance what a small lil' detail with such a huge meaning.I'm guessing u guys already knew that :P
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I just found out the orb is Mythal's not Fen'harel's 

http://www.reddit.co...cene_explained/

I can't imagine I'm the only one who thought it was Solas' orb >_>;;

But Fen'harel isn't a proper pantheon I guess. 

 

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source: somewhere on http://reubelyn.tumblr.com/

 

I remember back when fans first found that out there were theories around here that this was a remnant of when the Temple of Mythal was part of DA2:Exalted March.  It was possible that Hawke was meant to find the orb and that would wake Solas up?

 

In which case: Hawke, stop waking up ancient mages, please 


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I remember back when fans first found that out there were theories around here that this was a remnant of when the Temple of Mythal was part of DA2:Exalted March.  It was possible that Hawke was meant to find the orb and that would wake Solas up?

 

In which case: Hawke, stop waking up ancient mages, please 

In my case, Hawke, please keep waking up ancient mages. :D

Why don't you be a good lad and find the rest of the Seven Magisters, Hawke? Ooh, and I hear if you take a left at the Sea of Ash, you can bump into the ghost of Sauron's haunt spot! :D


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I think the poster's theory of the orb being Mythal's rather than Solas' simply because of the game file being named "elv_orbmythal" is super shaky. There's no possessive in there, and file names can be totally bonkers. When I'm naming projects, the file name usually just encompasses the main bits of what the subject matter is about for easy reference later.

 

For instance: I doodled Solas wearing a party hat a while back. I called it solas_birthday. But it wasn't about Solas' birthday (or anyone's birthday, for that matter). I suspect this is just a file name that would have flicked on the lightbulb for any devs looking for it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Also, I tend to think that Solas' orb is 100% his orb. Even if Mythal gave it to him at some point, it's still his. Like, if I were to join a very exclusive University and work my ass off with the aim of gaining admittance to a super awesome club with super awesome people who all had super awesome matching club jackets, and then finally gained admittance and was given my very own matching club jacket, it would be mine, even though it was the super awesome exclusive University club chairperson that originally gave it to me.

 

Unless of course Mythal simply lent it to him. But Mythal doesn't strike me as a loaner of super awesome matching club jackets. ;)

 

This is probably the best theory.  Some of my projects have completely random names, or names that reflect what I was planning on doing but the actual story ended up totally different.  And some just have names that are meant to stick out so I see them when scrolling through documents.
 


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This is probably the best theory.  Some of my projects have completely random names, or names that reflect what I was planning on doing but the actual story ended up totally different.  And some just have names that are meant to stick out so I see them when scrolling through documents.
 

Obsidian's habit of naming games after US Presidents comes to mind. :D

Most of my stories are 'Project: (Weird Unrelated Thing). When I was younger, acronyms and long passwords were of course required.

I'm kind of curious what AFCKAIELAKIE was actually about, but I can't figure out the 67 letter password.  :lol: 15 year old Caddius was a wily bugger.


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I laughed too hard at this: http://chocolateandp...k-there-were-no

 

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Lavellan: Solas - what the -

Solas: Hush, vhenan.  This is the traditional mating dance of gay and bisexual elves.

Sera: *raspberry noises intensifies*


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In my case, Hawke, please keep waking up ancient mages. :D

Why don't you be a good lad and find the rest of the Seven Magisters, Hawke? Ooh, and I hear if you take a left at the Sea of Ash, you can bump into the ghost of Sauron's haunt spot! :D

 

I wonder if, after waking up enough ancient mages, she gets a certificate or something?  There has to be a prize.  She wouldn't keep doing it otherwise.


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I wonder if, after waking up enough ancient mages, she gets a certificate or something?  There has to be a prize.  She wouldn't keep doing it otherwise.

40% off on Black Emporium items and access to exclusive DLC perhaps?  :lol:



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Chapter 14 of Message Sent is now up, by the way. :D

 

EDIT: So I finished reading. OMG, the author just loves teasing us. Evil genius she is. :P

 

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Gad, work had me tied up all day but I WILL respond, grrr.

 

There's a lot of hints that 'The Stone', the gods the Profane feasted on, and 'the blood of the world' may all be connected. (Jury's out on whether the one possible Titan spotting was asking for lyrium or dragon blood. The World of Thedas Volume II's mention of the dwarf led ships from the west buying lyrium and fleeing a catastrophe of some kind suggests the Titans needed lyrium to me.)

So red lyrium is lyrium, living in a way, that has been corrupted by the Blight. From the murals in the Arbor WIlds, and a lot of hints through the stories of the elven gods, it seems that the Blight is somehow connected to the Void and the Forgotten Ones. Andruil hunted them in the Void and was corrupted by the Blight and is depicted as having armor similar to Samson's rock-candy suit. Mythal eventually cures her, but not until she ushered in an age of tyranny for her own subjects and wreaked a lot of havoc. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that one of the gods tried to use red lyrium as a cudgel against the others to gain power, only to have it backfire. It reminds me of the Bore in The Wheel of Time. Ancient Aes Sedai trying to tap a new power source, only to discover they just broke open the primordial manifestation of evil and he wants to play. 

One of the best theories on Solas's backstory and the downfall of Arlathan was that red lyrium began to corrupt them, Mythal was assassinated, and the whole thing descended into lunacy. Solas, uncorrupted by red lyrium, as Cole mentions Solas warning the others, seals them away, and figures that the elves can lead themselves now.

The Primeval Thaig's latest theory I've heard was that the ancient dwarves sealed their mages away. These mages began to consume massive amounts of lyrium, red or otherwise, and became the Profane. What's curious is that red lyrium is Blighted, according to Bianca, but the Primeval Thaig is free of darkspawn and other obvious signs of the Taint. It could be evidence for the Blight's influence long before the darkspawn.

What I want to know is how red lyrium feels to a dwarf with stone sense. Oghren's was strong enough to detect the amount and quality of it in the mountain at the Temple of Sacred Ashes, (Which seems to have been built over a temple to Mythal, judging by the mural.) and I doubt that it was red then. So Corypheus's ritual to rip open the Fade turned it red? Or was his using Blight magic with the Orb that managed to cast a pallor over the nearby lyrium? Or does enough raw magical power equal the Blight?

So we've got a lot of ideas.  :lol:

EDIT: Also: "OOOOODDRIN! OOOOOOOODRIN!"

I couldn't help but picture you joining that crowd in crying out for The Witcher:lol:

 

Yes. This. I remember reading about this and liking the theory. I totally agree about the Bore, too, that's the first thing I thought of on hearing about Andruil's... exploits. Actually, knowing WoT (and seeing as it seems to be a massive source of inspiration for Bioware), we could probably piece together a lot more on this just based on the parallels.

 

So, this is interesting by itself, that the Primeval Thaig was free of darkspawn, that would really indicate a different timeline than the Chantry version (which is naturally suspect anyway) with regard to what the Blight actually is and where it's from... this theory on dwarven mages is fascinating, though I want to mull it over a bit more before I get any ideas.

 

Now the stone sense - I'm wondering, is it possible that the orb itself is somehow the cause of corruption? I mean, it is the "power of the gods" as we understand it based on our vague information, could it be that this is like the Choedan Kal of Thedas? Perhaps not directly corrupt, yet without the ability to control it properly, the inadvertent "evil life-giver" in a sense? It could bestow a kind of spirit power on lyrium that is unnatural to it, I mean, red lyrium is way different to regular lyrium with its aggressive spreading and its actual consumption of living things to procreate it becomes the next thing to being corrupt itself. Much to speculate on, hmm. Or like basic alchemy - the mix of these particular energies causes a kind of "fissure" between worlds which isn't supposed to happen orginally. Hmmm....

 

(I'm right there in the Witcher crowd, believe me, showing off my Zoltan-style lion roar to find Odrin!  :D )

 

So computers need a certain amount of free space to 'breathe', so to speak. My computer has long been crazy and slow-running (fifteen minutes to start-up), because when my computer nerd friend said, "Yeah, seventy gigabytes of free space for your rig," I apparently heard, "Five gigabytes of free space is ideal."  :unsure:

Cue the deleting rampage, the uninstalling horrors. I'll miss you, Rome II, but your little sister Attila is just flat out better than you. :(

So I get rid of sixty gigabytes of crap. Check my amount of free space. It's gone down to 4.5 free gigabytes. I reboot, I follow the guides on various technical websites.

It's down to 3.5 free gigabytes now.  :huh: But it starts up faster. But it runs slower.  :blink: I'm close to embracing my inner Luddite and just chucking the computer out the window.

 

Oh, wow. 3.5 gigs and it runs... you need at least 15 for smooth functionality, but more is always better. I try to keep as much free as possible without sacrificing my favorites, hahaha. Also, the reason why it goes down is because you're actually creating new temp files, etc. by running applications, including uninstalls, but you can unclog a lot of gigabytes if you have a program that clears away that sort of unnecessary stuff at regular intervals. Anyway, I'm fairly good at this sort of thing, if you ever need a brain to pick.  :D

 

There's also the idea of "gangue" or impure spirits of the stone. The dwarves consider it their duty to take it out of the Stone. I wonder if their idea that the Stone is alive comes from lyrium veins, which turns out are alive. Therefore impure Stone would be corrupted lyrium?

 

Ah, yes! The culling of the gangue - like a plague in the stone, hmmm...

 

The dwarves sure do seem to deal with demons a lot for people without mages.

Then there's Malvernis from Legacy. A pestilent creature that managed to corrupt the Stone itself and was imprisoned in the surface by a Paragon.

So you've the usual, "Well, we cut out the parts of society that drag us down" ruthless meritocracy part of their culture, and you've got the actual Blight creeping up the walls of the Deep Roads and the red lyrium that's starting to blossom and move up to the surface. (A giant plot point that was never addressed fully in Inquisition, much to my frustration.)

And in Fairel's Tombs, the Tevinter magisters seem astonished that dwarves were able to imprison demons and use them as guardians.

 

I think there is so much here that needs exploring - maybe in a DLC...?  :D They've really gone into digging into lore in Inquisition, so it's entirely plausible they will address this further... I mean, red lyrium is really prominent throughout the game. The fact that it kind of takes a backseat to all the revelations makes me think that they will expand at some point, as it's kind of a large loose end.

 

The Gangue Shade is a demon you can summon in Origins too, by wearing all the Legion of the Dead armor. There's clearly something funky going on with dwarves. The whole "severed arm" thing and Dagna's "have to be separate to use it" makes all my lore senses tingle.

 

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O! I didn't even know about this. Or did I? I had Legion of the Dead armor, I think Oghren got it; how does this come about?

 

The severed arm thing is really suspicious... in fact, a lot of Dagna's cryptic revelations are fascinating that way.


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*snipedy do da*

Oh my lords, the first time I heard Zoltan's screaming in The Witcher 1, I cried with laughter.  :lol:  :lol: And Geralt's exasperation with it all.

So a puzzle for you computer tech-savvy folk. My computer now claims I have 1.02 GB unused on a 690GB computer. Yet when I ran a JDiskReport to let me know where all the gigabytes were actually stored, it blandly reported that everything combined was about 420 gigabytes.

Or, at least it did.  :o Just now it claims I have 30 gigs available! :D Which is, y'know, still wrong, but it's much better!  :lol:

(The downside is that my computer is still a little more sluggish depicting giant armies of Goths hacking away at each other in Attila than I think is proper.  <_<  <_< )

For the WoT, I can't help but imagine a showdown between Ishamael and Solas.  ^_^ Or Thom and Leliana trying to out cloak-and-dagger each other. (My money's on Thom. Old age and treachery, every time.)

The Orb having some corruption is an interesting idea. It would appear that Corypheus has been using his own Blight power to amplify the Orb, or perhaps that was what he needed to do to unlock it himself.

The red lyrium in Bartrand's mansion encouraged the entry of demons and ghosts and hauntings, didn't it? So blue lyrium increase one's connection to the Fade, but red lyrium is able to damage the Fade?

The Seven Magisters were said to have been massively mutated by lyrium even before their assault on the Black City, and used elf blood and lyrium to open up the way. Yet Corypheus's body in Legacy is imbued with what appears to be blue lyrium, or some kind of mineral, while by Inquisition he's rocking the red lyrium look. Was this corruption by the Orb, or did he accessorize after Bianca led him to the Primeval Thaig?

EDIT: 103 GB's FREE! I HAVE WON! I HAVE CRUSHED MY PSYCHOTIC COMPUTER AFTER A WEEK OF BATTLE! HEAR MY TRIUMPHANT CRY!

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...wait. That's more than enough space for Rome II. Which I uninstalled because I thought my computer was about to explode from being overstuffed.

...it's going to take me months to re-download it and all of the bloody mods I used.  :mellow:


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The dwarves sure do seem to deal with demons a lot for people without mages.

Then there's Malvernis from Legacy. A pestilent creature that managed to corrupt the Stone itself and was imprisoned in the surface by a Paragon.

So you've the usual, "Well, we cut out the parts of society that drag us down" ruthless meritocracy part of their culture, and you've got the actual Blight creeping up the walls of the Deep Roads and the red lyrium that's starting to blossom and move up to the surface. (A giant plot point that was never addressed fully in Inquisition, much to my frustration.)

And in Fairel's Tombs, the Tevinter magisters seem astonished that dwarves were able to imprison demons and use them as guardians.

 

Makes you wonder, what if half the demons that we encounter bound into objects, weren't locked away because they were dangerous, but were just bound spirits like those used as servants in Tevinter? But after being abandoned and left forgotten in a ruin for several millennia, the isolation and imprisonment ended up driving them nuts?


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