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Makes you wonder, what if half the demons that we encounter bound into objects, weren't locked away because they were dangerous, but were just bound spirits like those used as servants in Tevinter? But after being abandoned and left forgotten in a ruin for several millennia, the isolation and imprisonment ended up driving them nuts?

...Dude. :mellow:  :huh:  :blink:  :unsure:  :o  -_-  :)  :D  :lol:  :P 



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...Dude. :mellow:  :huh:  :blink:  :unsure:  :o  -_-  :)  :D  :lol:  :P 

 

"Phenomenal cosmic powers, itty bitty living space."

 

I know, it's a scary thought, right?


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"Phenomenal cosmic powers, itty bitty living space."

 

I know, it's a scary thought, right?

 

Like the Arcane Warrior who barely remembers ever being an elf.


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damn it Solas you made pride demon spill his tea

 

 

From the Boxers or Briefs Thread. Evidently Solas wears butt flaps...


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*snip*

 

It was simply hilarious.  :D Zoltan  <3  :D

 

Alright, 130 gigs free is great! Now I wonder how it reported 1.02 earlier...  :huh: I can say for certain, though, that you can't always trust what your computer says you have in lieu of space - trust no one!  :P Cleaning software is the way to go to fix that, too.

 

Ishamael vs. Solas: epiiiiiic.  :D Better yet, as Moridin! I mean, Ishamael was just stark raving mad, but reborn as Moridin at least he seems to have his wits about him. Well, mostly anyway.  :D I don't think Solas would be impressed by his "I am the Great Lord of the Dark" routine, hahaha.

Thom vs. Leliana showdown: ooh, I'd put my money on Thom, too. He still sees value in the art of performance, which gives anyone a huge edge in the Game (in both worlds, haha). Not that Leliana has entirely forgotten, but well, her bard cunning has gone a little dim. Strings twitching in the shadows and the like, but Thom is always in the thick of things.

 

This makes sense to me, this blue lyrium increases the connection while the red damages it; in fact, if we take into consideration Solas' description of a world where the Fade and the real world are kind of intertwined, then it could be that red lyrium is the original cause of people not being able to connect to the Fade. Perhaps the dwarves were the first to become so tainted that they had to cull magical ability out of themselves to preserve their people, but as a result they culled the ability to connect to the Fade... which would mean that the Fade is somehow reduced, kind of like how Tel'aran'rhiod bends to the mind, it's "real" as long as there is someone dreaming it in a way, i.e. with so many forgetting how to dream consciously, the Fade recedes from the world and becomes separate. Like myth fading into memory, suddenly monsters are just figments of fancy. They are only real to people with magic - magic is utterly inseparable from the Fade, but what if in a time where the Fade was unified with the world everyone had a kind of magic? Not as mages do in modern Thedas, yet it would simply be the ability to manipulate the world around you, much as picking up a fork from the table is changing your physical environment.

 

Oh, ghosts and haunting - perhaps... the red lyrium is kind of like salt and water, it draws in the moisture of the Fade and changes it, i.e. it brings spirits across, thus recreating an imperfect bridge of some sort.... hmmmm.... that's why there's so much red lyrium after the explosion, it's a byproduct of what Corypheus achieved.

 

I think it plausible that the orb causes Corypheus to go from blue to red; he is corrupted originally, yet that is the darkspawn corruption, which apparently does have some difference to red lyrium corruption. Perhaps the two shouldn't even be equated - it could be that the magisters were literally contaminants well before they ever entered the Fade, but perhaps that corruption connected to a different, more ancient evil that they brought back to the world (which manifests as red lyrium). Or... something. My brain tells me there's something here.

 

Yep, now I've been reduced to wild ramblings. I need sleeeeep for this...  :D


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From the Boxers or Briefs Thread. Evidently Solas wears butt flaps...

 

 

*coughs*

 

ninja'd

 

:P

 

EDIT: But it's always good to have that art reposted.



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Makes you wonder, what if half the demons that we encounter bound into objects, weren't locked away because they were dangerous, but were just bound spirits like those used as servants in Tevinter? But after being abandoned and left forgotten in a ruin for several millennia, the isolation and imprisonment ended up driving them nuts?

 

 

Oooh, they were either bound or trapped - what if they were trapped because of a sudden "shifting away" of the Fade, like Avalon receding into the fog and leaving them stranded? Or like rematerializing in a wall in a botched teleportation experiment. That would mean that the stone is truly alive, but now it's alive in a different way... hmmm.



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Like the Arcane Warrior who barely remembers ever being an elf.

 

The Arcane Warrior is ambiguous though, was that really him or just a Spirit who thought it was him? Sometimes Spirits can identify with people so strongly they end up mistaking themselves for that person, like Cole did and the Spirit who came to help;

 

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But then Flemeth was able to give Hawke an amulet containing a small fragment of herself to resurrect herself, so perhaps the Ancient Elves were capable of surviving death by putting their essences into objects, after all?

 

:huh:



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The Arcane Warrior is ambiguous though, was that really him or just a Spirit who thought it was him? Sometimes Spirits can identify with people so strongly they end up mistaking themselves for that person, like Cole did and the SNIP

 

But then Flemeth was able to give Hawke an amulet containing a small fragment of herself to resurrect herself, so perhaps the Ancient Elves were capable of surviving death by putting their essences into objects, after all?

 

:huh:

 

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The Arcane Warrior is ambiguous though, was that really him or just a Spirit who thought it was him? Sometimes Spirits can identify with people so strongly they end up mistaking themselves for that person, like Cole did and the Spirit who came to help Telana in JOH?

 

But then Flemeth was able to give Hawke an amulet containing a small fragment of herself to resurrect herself, so perhaps the Ancient Elves were capable of surviving death by putting their essences into objects, after all?

 

:huh:

 

Perhaps it was even a common practice, like a precursor to phylacteries. That is a kind of blood magic essentially, which would indicate more than ever that the connection between reality (blood) and the Fade (lyrium) is part of creating this specific type of magic, perhaps the only kind that can bridge the two worlds. Which is why the magisters chose to do what they did by using lyrium and blood magic both... hmmm.


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The Arcane Warrior is ambiguous though, was that really him or just a Spirit who thought it was him? Sometimes Spirits can identify with people so strongly they end up mistaking themselves for that person, like Cole did and the Spirit who came to help Telana in JOH?

 

But then Flemeth was able to give Hawke an amulet containing a small fragment of herself to resurrect herself, so perhaps the Ancient Elves were capable of surviving death by putting their essences into objects, after all?

 

:huh:

 

The Arcane Warrior is ambiguous though, was that really him or just a Spirit who thought it was him? Sometimes Spirits can identify with people so strongly they end up mistaking themselves for that person, like Cole did and the Spirit who came to help Telana in JOH?

 

But then Flemeth was able to give Hawke an amulet containing a small fragment of herself to resurrect herself, so perhaps the Ancient Elves were capable of surviving death by putting their essences into objects, after all?

 

:huh:

I think the Arcane Warrior was probably the actual Arcane Warrior. The spirits imitating people, like Justinia, seems to happen in the Fade when they witness that person. So unless the Arcane Warriors were also utilizing spirits in combat and were particularly close, like the Emerald Knights and their wolves, then I'm willing to bet the poor sod was the real deal. It also works as foreshadowing the elven god Mythal using something similar to resurrect herself in 2

Blood magic is ambiguous, isn't it? The claims to its origins are:

1) Arlathan knew it, and the magisters captured them and extracted the information. Blood magic would play a key role in their victory over Arlathan.

2) Archon Thalsian learned it from the Archdemon Dumat.

3) Mages learned it from the Forbidden Ones.



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Skyhold often loses art supplies.

Frescos entertain nobles, his artistic redecoration excites lovers.

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This is awesome! But now we need one for Dread Wolf! :)
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I'm thinking Capricorn posted some of these already...I don't remember, my brain doesn't work this morning

 

Art

 

Dread Wolf

http://limely.devian...-Wolf-532380568

 

Cute Lavellan and Solas

http://static-byte.d...Solas-532357374

 

Concept Art Solas Sketches

http://widdershins-w...Solas-532399945

 

I guess some people never leave The Hinderlands

http://a-dark-angel....lands-532285689

 

Fenris

http://reborn-gp.dev...mpion-532347203

 

And I just think this is beautiful

http://kinpachi-sens...earts-532379360


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Dwarves aren't connected to the fade. Lyrium is connected to the fade. Templars feel like dwarves to Cole. Lyrium is alive. The simplest fit seemed, to me, that lyrium could be the dwarves' lost connected to the fade and magic. Dwarves even "return to the stone" when they die instead of the fade. Justice hears the song of lyrium. Dwarves hear the song of the stone. It's like their fade, but stuck in the ground and being consumed by everyone because "ooh magic." How that would work with the new profane/mage theories I don't know (or how it fits in with titans for that matter.)

 

Anyway, I don't think the orb itself would be blighted. I think Solas would steer clear of it if it was. I don't know why Corypheus would go from blue lyrium face plates to red lyrium face plates so suddenly, though. At first I figured it was just because he was in stasis before Hawke woke him up and didn't change physically, so his darkspawn corruption didn't have enough time to corrupt the lyrium. But...we don't know how long he was wandering around before the grey wardens captured him. I don't think it was because the orb was corrupted, though. Especially if the blight was a concern for the ancient elves. I just can't see Solas having anything to do with a corrupted orb regardless of how desperate he was.


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Oh, Message Sent, you tease. You well-written, addictive, adorable tease. ^_^


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Agreed, on both accounts.
 



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I think that lyrium is made of dead Dwarves. I don't really have any proof for this, its just a hunch. There is the machine during the anvil of the void mission that shoots out Dwarf spirits and it is directly connected to a lyrium vein. 

 

The ghosts in Dragon Age have always confused me, I guess they are spirits drawn through the veil or something? Aside from the mother and child in the Brecilian forest, the ghosts have been Dwarves living in cities destroyed by Darkspawn. Even then tehy act differently, the Spirits-ghost-dwarves in Ortan thaig attack on sight, in Bownammar they attack after you take their things, and in Kal Hirol they don't attack at all, but in Kal Hirol they are fighting Darkspawn ghosts.

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Ahem. I know I'm super late to respond, but I was thinking about it. so...here it is. I fail so hard at drawing vallaslin and bodies and hands. (fracking hands!)..Mostly I just draw floating heads. I need so much practice. It would help if I actually used reference pictures..I just like to doodle (lazily) on my bed while my cat walks all over me.

 

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 *dies of embarrassment*   :blush:

 

 

 

Don't be embarrassed. I found those adorable.

 

Hands are the worst, really. This just about sums it up: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/how_draw_hands

 

In fact, for his birthday, I spent time sketching one of my boyfriend's MMO characters for him, and years later, he still (lovingly) teases me about the awful hands. I can manage simple drawings and sketches if I really try/spend time on it, but anatomy eludes me, and I have no digital art skill. Everything I try to draw digitally, if not abstract, is just...floating and weird.


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Normally I'd agree with you, but, at this point, she can pretty much do no wrong for me no matter what she writes. Also, I give the characters a little wiggle room since Ellana doesn't know Solas' name. She doesn't have anything to call him other than professor and she usually saves that for...special occasions. And whenever he says her name it just emphasizes that he hasn't told her his name yet and also crosses that whole "too real" line they don't like crossing.

 

Not that I've been spending almost as much time thinking about this fic as the actual characters in the actual game...



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Normally I'd agree with you, but, at this point, she can pretty much do no wrong for me no matter what she writes. Also, I give the characters a little wiggle room since Ellana doesn't know Solas' name. She doesn't have anything to call him other than professor and she usually saves that for...special occasions. And whenever he says her name it just emphasizes that he hasn't told her his name yet and also crosses that whole "too real" line they don't like crossing.

 

Not that I've been spending almost as much time thinking about this fic as the actual characters in the actual game...

 

 

Except Solas knows Ellana's name (and always has) but his narration is always thinking of her as 'his da'len' and he does when he's thinking of her in a romantic context.  Don't get me wrong, I love Message Sent.  I think it's one of the best modern day AUs I've read.  It's just that particular aspect bothers me and it's becoming more of a bother the more romantic their texts get.


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Off topic: I restarted Pillars of Eternity and now I'm trapped in character creator hell again.

 

Regency Top:

 

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http://silverchimaer...au-stuff-for-da

 

Although I regret looking in the Solas tag to find that.  It has... strange stuff today.


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Hey, I know you're discussing and I don't like to interrupt, but yesterday I tried to color my picture. I found it astonishingly difficult. It's like 20% what I wanted, 50% what I was actually able to do, and the rest an equal mix of "Gotta do." and "What happens if I do that...? Ugh. Ah, uh, not so bad maybe." I settled for this non-background background because... yeah, because I didn't know how to go on. So I wouldn't call it a deliberate design choice as such. 
I'm not sure I ever want to do this again... but I did have fun. So in case I do decide to do it again, any helpful hints? (Helpful means nothing like "Draw better." because really, I can't :lol:).

Oh, and I am aware their clothes aren't actually so torn and Solas never even has a scratch, but I liked the idea of them having to stitch their gear up after a fight and looking broken and weakened.
Honest feedback appreciated.

 

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I really like the background, Siha. The mixture of cracked rocks and flowers. Very nice! I also really like the pale colors you used. Like water colors. I don't see that very often.  I think you did a great job, your art stands out. It's different in a good way.


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Don't be embarrassed. I found those adorable.

 

Hands are the worst, really. This just about sums it up: http://theoatmeal.co.../how_draw_hands

 

In fact, for his birthday, I spent time sketching one of my boyfriend's MMO characters for him, and years later, he still (lovingly) teases me about the awful hands. I can manage simple drawings and sketches if I really try/spend time on it, but anatomy eludes me, and I have no digital art skill. Everything I try to draw digitally, if not abstract, is just...floating and weird.

Thank you so much. >w< I know that it just takes practice and discipline to get better at drawing. I just need to actually apply that knowledge. I draw blocky ff7 hands all the time. They're horrible.   :lol: Also, The Oatmeal is awesome!

 

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 For this, I can see why people get weirded out, but I always just think of it as a senpai/-chan thing so it doesn't really bug me. (I am also addicted to this fic and it's this thread's fault.I didn't like the idea of a "Texting fic" but ugh it's so gorram cute!)   :wub:

 

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Hey, I know you're discussing and I don't like to interrupt, but yesterday I tried to color my picture. I found it astonishingly difficult. It's like 20% what I wanted, 50% what I was actually able to do, and the rest an equal mix of "Gotta do." and "What happens if I do that...? Ugh. Ah, uh, not so bad maybe." I settled for this non-background background because... yeah, because I didn't know how to go on. So I wouldn't call it a deliberate design choice as such. 
I'm not sure I ever want to do this again... but I did have fun. So in case I do decide to do it again, any helpful hints? (Helpful means nothing like "Draw better." because really, I can't :lol:).

Oh, and I am aware their clothes aren't actually so torn and Solas never even has a scratch, but I liked the idea of them having to stitch their gear up after a fight and looking broken and weakened.
Honest feedback appreciated.

 

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Siha!  This is lovely!

 

For this, I can see why people get weirded out, but I always just think of it as a senpai/-chan thing so it doesn't really bug me. (I am also addicted to this fic and it's this thread's fault.I didn't like the idea of a "Texting fic" but ugh it's so gorram cute!)  :wub:

 

I don't mind the harhen part so much.  It's the da'len part that bothers me.  And the 'his da'len' part in particular.  Nope.  Nope nope nope nope.  While I get the senpai=harhen thing, da'len means child and I really don't like it being used in a romantic context.  It's not cute.  It's just creepy.  I'd much prefer him to use lethallan.  It's informal and shows he thinks about her in friendly terms without infantilising her.  She's the same age as me!  If the person I saw as a potential lover constantly referred to me a child I would nope out of there so fast.  And if I found out they thought of me as their child in a romantic context then I would need to take several showers then burn my phone.

 

EDIT: Then gather the ashes and burn them.  Also you get a <3 for Firefly.


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