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I'm sure everyone has posted this like a bazillion million times on this thread....

 

...but I'm on my second play through and I'm here again.

 

 

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*sigh*

 

And sorry if the picture is to big. Not sure what I could do about that.

oh my god.. I am sorry for you <3

 

I know what it feels like cause I am Janic99 from youtube who makes the solas vids and I had to do all these scenes like 10 times because I recorded with flycam + without music and different choices of answers... it was killing me inside everytime T_T


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I have been wondering how long Solas had been awake before the conclave.. I don't think there is anything to go on for that yet. I'm just really curious. I want to know what happened to Solas before everything happened! :/ I also really want to read all the books.

There isn't much to go on but that is something I keep wondering about too. Corypheus is said to have been attempting his plans for a couple of years, but we know nothing of why or when Solas woke up, where he was, or how the orb actually got to Corypheus.

 

I also spend time wondering where Solas went to spend his uthenera, given the circumstances and what is needed for the process, as we get from game info and The Masked Empire. And since he's Fen'Harel, after doing what he did, I figure it might make him a target to be in such a vulnerable state. In The Masked Empire (I will spoiler tag for your sake)

 

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While we are talking about Dwarves, I got this info on Sandal from the Dwarf thread, its from WOT2 so I will spoiler it. 

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#101404
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Solas & Lace Harding - What a pleasant vacation

Vivienne & Solas - the spread of corruption

 

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While we are talking about Dwarves, I got this info on Sandal from the Dwarf thread, its from WOT2 so I will spoiler it. 

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I'll be damned. :D That sounds like a fantastic picture.

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As for when Solas wakes up: The Black Emporium had a text that appears somewhere between 9:34 and 9:37 Dragon that, translated from code, mentions 'An eclipse as Fen'harel stirs'. So he's probably been awake for four to seven years by the time of Inquisition​'s beginning. :)

On a personal note: Now that my computer recognizes that it has 192 gigabytes of free space instead of, um, 1, it's running on graphics settings with Attila and the like that I didn't even know existed. :D


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I'll be damned. :D That sounds like a fantastic picture.

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What where is this text. I must have it.



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What where is this text. I must have it.

 

DA2 - http://dragonage.wik...gent_Compendium


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I think you're secretly me. :mellow:

 

Maybe I'm an alternative universe you who really hates Anders?


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Maybe I'm an alternative universe you who really hates Anders?

 

So that explains it. ;)

 

 

 

 

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oh my god.. I am sorry for you <3

 

I know what it feels like cause I am Janic99 from youtube who makes the solas vids and I had to do all these scenes like 10 times because I recorded with flycam + without music and different choices of answers... it was killing me inside everytime T_T

 

Nicely done with the videos.

 

I have been tempted to use flycam in a playthrough. I think I read/heard somewhere that it can cause extra heartbreak though with any Solas scene with a romanced Lavellan because of the facial expressions and body language you never really see otherwise.

 

Even without flycam just doing a 2nd playthrough you notice all kinds of subtle Solas that breaks the heart. And I have also realized nearly everything he says could easily have 2-3 meanings to it.


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Nicely done with the videos.

 

I have been tempted to use flycam in a playthrough. I think I read/heard somewhere that it can cause extra heartbreak though with any Solas scene with a romanced Lavellan because of the facial expressions and body language you never really see otherwise.

 

Even without flycam just doing a 2nd playthrough you notice all kinds of subtle Solas that breaks the heart. And I have also realized nearly everything he says could easily have 2-3 meanings to it.

If he was this subtle in Inquisition, I can only imagine what the Arlathan divine court was like. :D

And Elgar'nan just sighing in exasperation at it all...

Is it weird that I associate Elgie with Cu Chulainn? A rather angry god, and a rather angry Irishman with warp-spasm rages? *shrug*

I can totally see Elgar'nan falling in love with Mythal/Emer because of her cryptic talk and riddles. :D

...and her getting pissed about his cheating on her with the dwarf empress.  :o


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If he was this subtle in Inquisition, I can only imagine what the Arlathan divine court was like. :D

Fen'Harel would have court approval of infinity +1.

And he wouldn't even have to jump off of balconies to do it.


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If he was this subtle in Inquisition, I can only imagine what the Arlathan divine court was like. :D

And Elgar'nan just sighing in exasperation at it all...

Is it weird that I associate Elgie with Cu Chulainn? A rather angry god, and a rather angry Irishman with warp-spasm rages? *shrug*

I can totally see Elgar'nan falling in love with Mythal/Emer because of her cryptic talk and riddles. :D

...and her getting pissed about his cheating on her with the dwarf empress.  :o

I would kill for some sort of scene where we see Solas in Arlathan court. Mostly because he must have really enjoyed based on how he acts about the Orlesian ball and all. If I'm not mistaken, talking about being at court may be the only time he really kinda slips up and has to recover with a whole "Uhhh...saw it in the Fade!!!" line.


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I'll just leave some art here. :P

Solavellan art with a poem by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, "The Arrow and the Song".


And another Solavellan artwork.


And not Solas-related but here's a beautiful Zevran/f!Mahariel artwork by shalizeh7 with him wearing that Crow armor.

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*dons tin foil hat*

 

Theory One:

Archdemons aren't corrupted by normal darkspawn. They can only be corrupted by their corresponding High Priest. Either that, or the High Priests were the only ones outside of the Wardens to know where, exactly, in the deep dark their own gods were buried. 

The darkspawn dig in the vague direction of the call, and the remaining Magisters take control of large groups and direct them to the real target. This was mostly inspired by the fact that the Architect was once Urthemiel's High Priest, and he was the one to corrupt him in the end. I enjoy the poetry of it.

Theory Two:

The Old God beneath the Western Approach is still there, and is probably Razikale.

While I don't know many spoilers about Jaws of Haakon

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Then there's the business with the Weisshaupt Wardens, the First Warden in Last Flight investigating blood magic and subversion within Warden ranks going back centuries, and so on and so forth. This all feels like the foreshadowing to Razikale making a big entrance in a coming up DA game, which I'm all in favor for. Especially if the corresponding Magister, the Augur of Mystery, shows up. :D

As for Razikale or Lusacan being beneath the Western Approach: The Wardens have many outposts throughout the south. While demon-summoning and blood sacrifice is shady enough for them to retreat to their most isolated and abandoned outpost, the urgency of their Calling coming means I'd doubt they'd want to go very far from their first target. They've set up in the Western Approach for privacy, to build their auxiliary demon forces, and then to head a short distance to crack open Razikale's prison. I've heard reports of people seeing a flash of something draconic and hearing strange sounds from the collapsed mine, which is deliciously creepy. 


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*brain explodes* Ugh, too many ideas in my head after catching up... I'm not sleeping much tonight, either, I see.
 

Dwarves aren't connected to the fade. Lyrium is connected to the fade. Templars feel like dwarves to Cole. Lyrium is alive. The simplest fit seemed, to me, that lyrium could be the dwarves' lost connected to the fade and magic. Dwarves even "return to the stone" when they die instead of the fade. Justice hears the song of lyrium. Dwarves hear the song of the stone. It's like their fade, but stuck in the ground and being consumed by everyone because "ooh magic." How that would work with the new profane/mage theories I don't know (or how it fits in with titans for that matter.)

 

Anyway, I don't think the orb itself would be blighted. I think Solas would steer clear of it if it was. I don't know why Corypheus would go from blue lyrium face plates to red lyrium face plates so suddenly, though. At first I figured it was just because he was in stasis before Hawke woke him up and didn't change physically, so his darkspawn corruption didn't have enough time to corrupt the lyrium. But...we don't know how long he was wandering around before the grey wardens captured him. I don't think it was because the orb was corrupted, though. Especially if the blight was a concern for the ancient elves. I just can't see Solas having anything to do with a corrupted orb regardless of how desperate he was.

 

To clarify, I don't think the orbs have corruption by themselves exactly - more that the level of power they carry is so great that an untrained hand using it would botch it and create corruption. An indirect source of destruction, much like (another Wheel of Time ref.) saidar and saidin, which can kill you, maim you and others around you easily even though it is a benign force, if you can even call it that. Point being, there is a cut-off level after which a power is so far beyond what we understand that it ceases to exist within the scope of good and evil, pure and corrupt, rather it is shaped by whoever wields it and becomes good and evil based on how inept or controlled they are, perhaps even more so than their actual intent. You can intend something without having the faintest hope of achieving it, after all.

 

As to the dwarves - that's just it, though, dwarves must have been able to connect to the Fade in a way because they are connected to lyrium. Not in the direct way that other races are, but that's still a connection.

 

I can totally subscribe to the hive mind theory in general and all that about the Titans, I imagine there is some kind of basic breakdown of dwarves experiencing the Fade through the stone and other races experiencing it ...

 

Actually, elements!

 

Wait, wait. Guys. Elements! Dwarves would be earth, naturally. Perhaps elves could be water and humans air, or vice versa. The qunari could be fire, based on their dragon-descended theory. Oooh, I have to chew on this a bit.

 

*suspends further theory on this*

 

I think that lyrium is made of dead Dwarves. I don't really have any proof for this, its just a hunch. There is the machine during the anvil of the void mission that shoots out Dwarf spirits and it is directly connected to a lyrium vein. 

 

*snip*

 

So... soilent green? :D But really, there is something to be said for their whole lore about "returning to the stone" and there are all those imprints of memories we see in the Deep Roads, e.g. in Awakening.

 

*snip*

 

What Gwyvian said is one aspect.

 

*snip*

 

I tend to agree - though I have to say I've lived on 700 gigs quite nicely without any problems. *cough* I also have at least 2 T's of data on external drives. *cough* Selection is important! :D

 

But in general, maintenance is key even if you don't expand your rig, cleaning, defragmenting, software updates, blah, blah, blah. I couldn't say too much more or address these odd issues really unless I had a more complete picture of the system in question, but these routine things usually keep computers alive. It's just good practice.

 

*snip*

3) How Cory Got Orb! *snip*

 

Interesting. I had forgotten about Malvernis being released that way... I need to go replay DAII. I'm still on the fence about this theory in general, but I would say that the fact that Corypheus and Solas don't recognize each other shouldn't be given overly much weight. I think Corypheus would have tried to fracture your ranks by spitting out info that he knows Solas, the fact that he didn't suggests to me that he really doesn't know who Solas is. That doesn't mean that Solas doesn't know him, of course, but this again would suggest that he obliquely provided the orb, not directly. Plus it would seem strange to me that Solas' contingency plan for the orb was to leave it lying around an ancient magister.... that doesn't sound like a sound practice to me, so I wouldn't support the notion that Solas was awakened by Corypheus finding Solas' orb that he deliberately left there - yet, if it was a mistake, i.e. Solas had no idea, then it would match. Then again, I would add that Solas seemed to have planned this whole thing at least to a degree, so there had to be some deliberate action there, i.e. he was awake and possibly in possession of the orb well before DA:I events. What seems most likely to me is still that he learned of Corypheus, sought him out as a pawn of sorts and then realized that his plan was backfiring... again. Maybe he shouldn't plan so much....

 

*dons tin foil hat*

 

*snip*

 

1: interesting concept. I like it.

 

2: Oooh, another Blight! That would mean we must wait forever to get the lore we need, but oh, well. *dramatic sigh*


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Obvious answer is obvious: Solas wore a perm wig when he let Corypheus get the Orb. :P

If the Qunari are fire, then I can't help but notice they're an island nation that launched a massive invasion, and use higher levels of technology, and have some Buddhist elements, and their original religion was an animist one with some vague similarities to Shintoism. I'm just saying, Qunari Uncle Iroh would be a sight.  :P

I take y'all's advice about getting more gigabytes as an endorsement of the Solas thread buying me a new computer? :ph34r:  ^_^

(Once again oh my lords and garters it's running so fast now  :wub: )

I'd comment more on Gwyvian's post, but, um, sleep.  :lol: 



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Yaaaay artttt. Looks good! I'd put warmy colours on extremities such as ears and fingers and parts where blood circulates. I also agree it has a watercolor vibe which is cool! I think the stamps/textured brushes of differing colours do well to give the two characters different moods :D

 

Haha... there's about a hundred and three thousand things wrong with my picture and you give me pro tip no. 47.

But good, very clever. I tried it. Don't think I got it right, but I like the slight touch of color it adds. I don't know if I'd see the difference if I didn't know though.

Just maybe... let's not call it art. Feels weird to use that word for my picture, considering how many people in this thread actually produce art :ph34r:

 

I admire how you people do this. It took me forever and still doesn't look like I wanted it.

Maybe, if I do this again, I should get a mouse? Though the laptop touchpad probably wasn't my greatest weakness.

 

The Old God beneath the Western Approach is still there, and is probably Razikale.

 

Okay, beginner's question: the old gods, who are they now? I once read somewhere here they are in fact the gods Solas locked away, only corrupted and called by other names by the Tevinter. But in the end the same entities. Is this the case? If not, who are they then? Different gods, who were also locked away by coincidence? Or do we not know?

And who would be Razikale exactly?



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Okay, beginner's question: the old gods, who are they now? I once read somewhere here they are in fact the gods Solas locked away, only corrupted and called by other names by the Tevinter. But in the end the same entities. Is this the case? If not, who are they then? Different gods, who were also locked away by coincidence? Or do we not know?

And who would be Razikale exactly?

This will be a start  http://dragonage.wik...m/wiki/Razikale On a side note i wonder why Solas says "An impressive creature.There is a purity in such undiluted power" Now thinking about the orb "used to channel power from our gods" did they channel this power from the old gods? I may be going on nothing here but it did cross my mind :P Oh and then why he hates the grey wardens ?If they kill the old gods/ archdemons  and they (the elves) channeled power from them?Who knows how are they all connected,i mean were they real rivals like good or bad sides?And then there's the Forbidden Ones (demons i think) and the Forgotten Ones( Only in dreams do we hear whispered the names of Geldauran and Daern'thal and Anaris, for they are the Forgotten Ones, the gods of terror and malice, spite and pestilence. We who are forgotten, remember, We clawed at rock until our fingers bled, We cried out for justice, but were unheard. Our children wept in hunger, And so we feasted upon the gods. Here we wait, in aeons of silence. We few, we profane.)

Source http://dragonage.wik...ry:_The_Profane


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Random thought: Wonder if Coryfish recognized Varric.  "Hey...that's the guy that killed me that one time..." 


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#101421
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More art

 

Tattoo

http://caddynhinja.d...attoo-532571126

 

Sketches

http://duck-empress....mp-22-532579790

 

Aaahh....friggin' creepy!!!!

http://katieisalady....I-was-532562333

 

Much better

http://feyuca.devian...harel-532508377

 

Tahni Lavallan Part 1

http://oddmoy.devian...ellan-532584764

 

Part 2

http://oddmoy.devian...n-pt2-532585188

 

Part 3

http://oddmoy.devian...n-pt3-532585526

 

Part 4

http://oddmoy.devian...n-pt4-532585692


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That tattoo is some commitment at this point.

 

I have friends with game-related tattoos, but they are of things that have stood out for them over a long period of time.



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baes how are you all :)


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That tattoo is some commitment at this point.

 

I have friends with game-related tattoos, but they are of things that have stood out for them over a long period of time.

Yeah...same...and I mean long. Like a tiny princess peach or Link. Characters that have resonated with them since they were little so like 28 years.  This is...these tattoos are something else.  It's their body so 'god speed' I suppose. Also, that would have been the last picture I would have tattooed on my body. It's a nice painting and all but just...not one that I would want on me for the rest of my life. 


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#101425
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If I were to get a Solas tattoo..it would probably be him as a Fen'Heral puppy playing with his "ball"  :lol: