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[EggplantRed]

Hi thread! Have a quick question...

I know this isn't the Cole thread but I could probably get a faster answer if I asked in here, does anyone know if Cole can hear the whispers from the Well in quizzies that drink from the Well? TIA!

[CapricornSun]

Art time again.

 

deedylovescake drew a Solas counterpart to this picture.

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http://deedylovescak...s-picture-and-i

 

 

Solas in his original package enhancing outfit. Dat bulge...

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http://lepas.tumblr....-being-adorable

 

 

Concept!Solas and Inky.

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http://xiactorvi.tum...in-and-i-can-do

 

 

Draw your OTP in a haunted house.

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http://50shadesoftha...a-haunted-house

 

[ChuChu]

Okay! Uh. I don't think anyone is really interested in this except for maybe Caddius, but you are all welcome to it! It's my hope it might help some of you lore craft. Obviously the really interesting bits don't have dates and are only speculative. Thus, they aren't in here. But you get the idea. Also Caddius' written timeline is to blame for most of the text references so if there's something wrong... point your fingers at him!

Kidding. Kidding.

I also put this together for personal reasons. I wanted to have a scope of how far apart things are. I also wanted to have all three forms of calendar (FA, TE, and Chantry) in here for easy reference. The top graph is representative of everything, while the bottom is a zoom in of more recent events (well, the past 1200 years). The coloured part on the top far right represents events after the Chantry took over. Little itty bitty thing compared to the rest of DA's history, isn't it? So much blank space we don't know about before that. Andraste's era was the most dense. So is the Dragon Age, but I deliberately left a lot of the Dragon Age out because we know most of it and it gets really busy. Because of that, Inquisition events aren't really covered at all.

It's not huge but it's between 2000x2500 pixels so big enough to warn you. Here it is! 

Now back to that Solas painting I was supposed to have finished by now.
 

Preview:

[Gwyvian]

Okay! Uh. I don't think anyone is really interested in this except for maybe Caddius, but you are all welcome to it! It's my hope it might help some of you lore craft. Obviously the really interesting bits don't have dates and are only speculative. Thus, they aren't in here. But you get the idea. Also Caddius' written timeline is to blame for most of the text references so if there's something wrong... point your fingers at him!

*snip*

 

Oh, lovely! Count me in the interested camp, I'll study this a while... 

[ChuChu]

Oh, lovely! Count me in the interested camp, I'll study this a while... 

Hurrah! Uh. Just remember it's not official and, I believe some nugs snuck in to my office while I was sleeping. So while I tried my best I'm sure there are things amiss somewhere

[Illyria]

Just so you know, Aicosu just posted Chapter 15 of Message Sent.

 

eeeeeeeeeeeeee!

 

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Still not keen on the 'da'len' thing though.

I don't think I ever will.

[Sifr]

Okay! Uh. I don't think anyone is really interested in this except for maybe Caddius, but you are all welcome to it! It's my hope it might help some of you lore craft. Obviously the really interesting bits don't have dates and are only speculative. Thus, they aren't in here. But you get the idea. Also Caddius' written timeline is to blame for most of the text references so if there's something wrong... point your fingers at him!

 

Add another one to the interested camp, the timeline is fascinating.

[Nightspirit]

Now that's an interesting thought. Dragon's blood + magic = blood magic. How awesome would it be if blood magic turns out to be what's needed to save the world after all the chantry's forbidding of it?

 

Hah, that would be awesome. I was already enthusiastic to reply that Merrill used blood magic to cleanse the tainted eluvian *wink wink*, but then I recalled she only used it to increase her power, because she had no lyrium. There goes my enthusiasm *sobs*

 

Some minor things that got me thinking when I was replaying the Dalish Origin recently.

 

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According to Tamlen, the statue at the Brecelian Ruins is Falon'Din, the Creator who was known for walking the paths between Thedas and the Beyond? Opposite his statue is the Eluvian we encounter, which can lead to the Fade with enough power (as both Mythal and OGB-Kieran both show) which leads me to wonder, was this one of Falon'Din's own Eluvians and how he got into the Fade?

 

What if the city that Tamlen saw was not underground (he's unsure about it when he says it), but actually the Black City within the Fade? If it connected to an Eluvian within the Fade near the Black City, it could explain why the Taint has spread through the mirror to the ruins around it?

 

"It's showing me places? I can see some kind of city... underground? And there's a great blackness..."

 

On a lesser note, what about those two men standing on both sides of the Eluvian? What if instead of humans, they were actually meant to be elves originally and were a representation of Dirthamen and Falon'Din? The reason for their human ears and appearance could be that the statues were later altered by Tevinters (docking elven ears to erase their history does seem to be vogue) when they plundered or occupied the ruins, as it's mentioned that human artefacts are strewn alongside the elven ones throughout the ruins?

I completely forgot about Tamlen's mentioning Falon'din.

I'd heard the Black City theories, and that Arlathan was sunk beneath the earth and the Black City is the Fade's reflection of the most heavily magical area in (under) Thedas. It being the Black City would explain the whispers.

Oh.

Crap.

I remember Mike Laidlaw, years after the fact, commenting that, "Merril repairing the mirror? Really bad idea." Which I thought was confusing, since they'd dealt with the demon that was going to use it to hop into the Fade-

Oh, dear. *frets*

 

I just played the Dalish Origin last week. When Tamlen spoke of his vision, I immediately thought of the black city..which could be Arlathan.

Would it be possible.. that there's an entity in the fade that wants to get out and can only escape through an eluvian? And the same entity played mind games with Tamlen, sent Audacity to tempt Merrill into fixing the eluvian and when that didn't work out, sent Felassan after Briala's eluvian network? I'm assuming it's Falon'Din, but I have no proof. I know I had one good example to support my hypothesis, but naturally, I didn't write it down and forgot.

 

Okay! Uh. I don't think anyone is really interested in this except for maybe Caddius, but you are all welcome to it! It's my hope it might help some of you lore craft. Obviously the really interesting bits don't have dates and are only speculative. Thus, they aren't in here. But you get the idea. Also Caddius' written timeline is to blame for most of the text references so if there's something wrong... point your fingers at him!  

I love this 

+1 in the interested camp. I want to stick that timeline on my wall.

[CapricornSun]

So this amazing artwork done by vilify for geeky-jez's fanfic Var Hellathen popped up on my tumblr dash and it looks amazing! Dark, but amazing nonetheless.

 

SOURCE

 

 

[NightSymphony]

Just a couple to share this morning

 

His Heart, His Prey

http://darthakanta.d...-prey-533175080

 

Again..he needs to be wearing this when we finally find him in DLC

http://mhfreak.devia...Harel-533154601

[Heidirs]

The human ears on the statues always made me curious. 

 

That could just be due to dev oversight. At the Temple of Mythal, the spirit thing that rises out of the Well of Sorrows when Corypheus goes for the eluvian has human ears. The devs admitted that was an error on their part as they didn't think the spirit/being/thing would be able to be seen so clearly. 

[coldwetn0se]

Hi thread! Have a quick question...
I know this isn't the Cole thread but I could probably get a faster answer if I asked in here, does anyone know if Cole can hear the whispers from the Well in quizzies that drink from the Well? TIA!

Didn't want this to get lost in the lovely art and theory crafting.

Wish I could answer this for you, but I haven't played a quizzy that drank from the Well...yet. Neither have I looked for all the different outcomes available (in regards to companion reactions). Hopefully someone will have an answer for you.

[Illyria]

That could just be due to dev oversight. At the Temple of Mythal, the spirit thing that rises out of the Well of Sorrows when Corypheus goes for the eluvian has human ears. The devs admitted that was an error on their part as they didn't think the spirit/being/thing would be able to be seen so clearly. 

 

I don't think this is the same as human!Mythalspiritthing

 

The statues are fairly big and they're not a case of reused art assets - this is the only time these statues are seen in the game.  The fact that Duncan calls it a Tevinter artefact is what makes me wonder if they were originally a Tevinter thing which was retconned to being elven.  But then there's also a big deal made about the fact that the ruin shows signs of humans and elves (and possibly dwarves) living together.

[Heidirs]

Has this been posted before? 

Why Solas isn't invited to play Wicked Grace.

[Illyria]

Has this been posted before? 

Why Solas isn't invited to play Wicked Grace.

 

Several times.  But it's always nice to see it again.

[MoonDrummer]

I don't think this is the same as human!Mythalspiritthing

 

The statues are fairly big and they're not a case of reused art assets - this is the only time these statues are seen in the game.  The fact that Duncan calls it a Tevinter artefact is what makes me wonder if they were originally a Tevinter thing which was retconned to being elven.  But then there's also a big deal made about the fact that the ruin shows signs of humans and elves (and possibly dwarves) living together.

What statue are we talking about? This one?

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I also seen this statue at the temple of Sacred Ashes. 

I can't really remember much about the place, but could the Dwarven tunnels have been made by Darkspawn trying to get to the Eluvian?

[Cee]

Just a couple to share this morning

 

 Again..he needs to be wearing this when we finally find him in DLC

http://mhfreak.devia...Harel-533154601

 

All I think of is San.

 

No, Solas, please don't.

 

 

[Illyria]

What statue are we talking about? This one?

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I also seen this statue at the temple of Sacred Ashes. 

I can't really remember much about the place, but could the Dwarven tunnels have been made by Darkspawn trying to get to the Eluvian?

 

The statues that are on either side of the eluvian.

[CapricornSun]

The statues that are on either side of the eluvian.

 

This one?

 

EDIT: Found a bigger image.

 

[MoonDrummer]

The statues that are on either side of the eluvian.

Tevinter could have did all the decoration themselves and only left the mirror itself as it was. 

[Heidirs]

The human ears on the statues always made me curious.  Duncan calls it a Tevinter artefact and I did wonder if the Eluvians being elven was a retcon during Witch Hunt.  But eluvian is a very elf-y sounding word.

 

The entire ruin from the Dalish Origin is fascinating.  It's human architecture with statues honouring the elven god and a passage created by dwarves (okay, it's for a Lord of the Rings joke, but it could mean something).  Mahariel can suggest that the elves who lived there were slaves, but why would there be a statue honouring Falon-Din?  It's not hidden - it's right there at the eluvian chamber.  What if the ruin was a place where elves and humans lived together, possibly even before Tevinter destroyed Arlathan?  It would explain why the place was dedicated to elven gods, but the eluvian is flanked by human statues.

 

So thinking on this a little more. Duncan calls it a Tevinter artifact, but he could be mistaken. Like, there's a banter where Dorian tells Solas a magic technique is from Tevinter and Solas informs him it's elven. 

 

As far as the human-made temple honoring Falon-Din - I could be mistaken, but didn't the elves try to live peacefully with humans for a while before discovering their lifespan was shortening because of them? So your theory that the ruin was a place where elves and humans lived together before the fall of Arlathan could be right... actually, I'd think it'd have to be even before Arlathan because I think that's when the elves segregated themselves from the rest of the world.

 

 

Tevinter could have did all the decoration themselves and only left the mirror itself as it was. 

 

Or that.

[NightSymphony]

Perfect day to be running out in The Fallow Mire.  It's raining, I have my window open so I can smell the rain and hear the thunder.  I'm scared!!! 

[Cee]

Perfect day to be running out in The Fallow Mire.  It's raining, I have my window open so I can smell the rain and hear the thunder.  I'm scared!!! 

 

Hopefully there's a shortage of undead in your area.

[Illyria]

This one?

 

EDIT: Found a bigger image.

 

 

This image makes me even more sure that it's from a time when humans and elves lived together.  If the eluvians really had been retconed to being an elven artefact then BW would've updated the model for it in Witch Hunt.  But this clearly still has human ears.

 

Now I really want to replay DAO properly.  I just wish I could play as a Dalish mage with mods...
 

[Heidirs]

Perfect day to be running out in The Fallow Mire.  It's raining, I have my window open so I can smell the rain and hear the thunder.  I'm scared!!! 

 

I swear they upped the lightening on the latest patch. I can't tell you how many times the lightening struck right next to my party, which made me jump every time and left a smoldering black spot next to where Varric had been standing.