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WoT Vol 2 says that the Wardens locked him away because of his ability to resurrect in Wardens/Blighted creatures. It does not say how they stumbled upon him.

 

WoT Vol 2 says that the Wardens locked him away because of his ability to resurrect in Wardens/Blighted creatures. It does not say how they stumbled upon him.

In the decades after Dumat's death, the Grey Wardens discovered intelligent darkspawn who can control parts of the darkspawn horde during the first Thaw. Warden Sashamiri arranges a trap for one of them and captures Corypehus. He's imprisoned, and they spent years interrogating, experimenting on, and trying to kill or control him. When they eventually realize that he's functionally immortal and can't be bound, Warden-Commander Daneken seals off Vinmark Prison and makes it a top Warden secret. I'm not sure if they knew he was a Magister. I remember some Warden saying in a journal that what Corypheus claimed was impossible. The Wardens that got close to him suffered short-term memory loss once they were out of his influence, so they probably didn't know.

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P.S. You guys talking about The Witcher 3! Friends keep saying I would like it, but it just seems so.... male.... to me! And I can't trust them for an honest review since they tease me alllll the time. Do you guys recommend it?
 
Hehe same here i have the game but nothing calls to me to go play it :)I cant feel his voice at all i cant connect to anything,don't think i can roleplay if i cant immerse myself into it :)

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Hmm.  Maybe the Architect can do that too, and we just didn't know it back in Awakening.  Maybe getting killed and respawning causes your memory to slowly fade if you do it too often?  Corypheus only did it three times: once after Hawke opened the prison to Larius/Janeka, once to a random Grey Warden after the Conclave explosion (not shown, but IMO highly likely), and once at the Temple of Mythal.

 

But Cory's respawn ability was tied to the Horcrux dragon, and once it was dead, he couldn't body surf any more.  Does that mean he had a Horcrux dragon back when the Wardens first captured him?  *head hurts*

I think his respawn ability was OP, and the Maker downgraded him by making it a class requirement to pour a lot of himself into the dragon.

I think he accidentally put too much of himself into it, to make a speedier recovery, to have more control about where he respawns, to blaspheme against the Old Gods. And there's his downfall. I think he only recently acquired the red lyrium dragon. Before, he was devout.

I'm fairly confident that in playthroughs where the Architect dies, he escapes through Velanna's sister. It's a good reason to keep a blighted person around. :)

So I'm guessing the other Magisters laid low after Corypheus's capture. Maybe they discreetly pop up and command segments of the Horde. Maybe they command the hordes that try to find their own Old God, then serve as the vanguard when the war stars.


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Is it said somewhere the architect in Awakening is the same as in The Calling?

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P.S. You guys talking about The Witcher 3! Friends keep saying I would like it, but it just seems so.... male.... to me! And I can't trust them for an honest review since they tease me alllll the time. Do you guys recommend it? 

The Witcher is the Keith Moon of games.

(That's the highest honour I can give anything.  :lol:)


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Is it said somewhere the architect in Awakening is the same as in The Calling?

He has a certain follower with him from the Calling and he makes a reference to a promise he made to that character and the writers have mentioned it. :)



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I'm pretty tempted by Sera this time, even knowing what I know and how hard it is for a Lavellan to win her over....still, no, Fade Tongue will be happening soon enough.

 

Sera is currently Greatly Approving of my Adaar.  Woof.


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Well, he was mad at her. Then he was flirting. Then he broke her heart a little. Then he made her swoon. Then he broke her heart a lot.

 

I think I started crying a little right around "Rare and marvelous spirit." 

 

I believe that I have heard talk of a blanket fort? And hot cocoa?

 

...I'm about to reload and play the scene 3 to 5 more times, just to see if my heart is still intact by the end of it. 


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I guess I am glad that I went ahead and bought WoT2 this month since one of my jobs is being cut for budget reasons and this puts me in a very bad situation for the time being. 

 

I need The Gif

 

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Oh no!

 

*hands you a cup of tea*

 

Everything is better with a cup of virtual tea from a virtual friend!

 

(also, it's Anders Positivity Week from the 25th-31st May on tumblr.  Hashtag is #AndersPositive)
 


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P.S. You guys talking about The Witcher 3! Friends keep saying I would like it, but it just seems so.... male.... to me! And I can't trust them for an honest review since they tease me alllll the time. Do you guys recommend it?

 

I...had trouble getting into the Witcher, though I started with 1 which is definitely a clunkier game.  I have no problem playing male characters: BroShep, Man Adaar, Man Hawke, Adam Jensen, and The Nameless One were all fine for me.  It was more the sexism that bothered me, though apparently that gets toned down in 2, and you're able to better control Geralt's RP.  I've been told to start with Witcher 2, and it's in my Steam queue, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

 

 

I think his respawn ability was OP, and the Maker downgraded him by making it a class requirement to pour a lot of himself into the dragon.

I think he accidentally put too much of himself into it, to make a speedier recovery, to have more control about where he respawns, to blaspheme against the Old Gods. And there's his downfall. I think he only recently acquired the red lyrium dragon. Before, he was devout.

I'm fairly confident that in playthroughs where the Architect dies, he escapes through Velanna's sister. It's a good reason to keep a blighted person around. :)

 

Like Sauron and the One Ring.  Though it's also possible that the red lyrium dragon existed back when he was a magister, and was dormant all those years he was in stasis.  The Wardens never did find out what made him respawn.

 

I really hope the Architect can respawn.  I love that dude, and I want him, my Amell, Morrigan, and Solas to team up in Western Thedas for a grand hurrah of bad life choices.


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I...had trouble getting into the Witcher, though I started with 1 which is definitely a clunkier game.  I have no problem playing male characters: BroShep, Man Adaar, Man Hawke, Adam Jensen, and The Nameless One were all fine for me.  It was more the sexism that bothered me, though apparently that gets toned down in 2, and you're able to better control Geralt's RP.  I've been told to start with Witcher 2, and it's in my Steam queue, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

 

 

 

Like Sauron and the One Ring.  Though it's also possible that the red lyrium dragon existed back when he was a magister, and was dormant all those years he was in stasis.  The Wardens never did find out what made him respawn.

 

I really hope the Architect can respawn.  I love that dude, and I want him, my Amell, Morrigan, and Solas to team up in Western Thedas for a grand hurrah of bad life choices.

Yeah, the sexism could get a little...tiresome in 1. The game is ultimately worth it, but I prefer 2.

In 2, it's much better. A lot less random sex scenes, more character development for everyone, and more developed female characters beyond Triss and Shani. Geralt stops acting like a blank-faced sex machine and more like a gentleman that just happens to have a weakness for his lady-friends that one character is more than happy to call his greatest weakness.  :lol: Which, as I understand, is much more in line with what he was like in the books.

The reason I don't think the red lyrium dragon was around beforehand is that Solas speculates that it's him lashing out against the gods, and making a mockery of them by twisting a dragon into their image, but with red lyrium. Maybe it wasn't corrupted beforehand. *shrug*


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Nope, can't do it. Twice is enough for one day.

 

Okay, so I decided to drink from the well, mostly because I didn't in my last game, but I was also curious to see how the tension would play out between Solas and Ninaeve over it. Now I'm wondering if I would have preferred letting Morrigan have it again. Does there tend to be a more popular option with those of you who have done/seen it both ways? 



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I never realized how intimate this moment was till i went with free cam!So beautiful:(

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Your Lavellan is so pretty!  Do you have sliders?

 

My Wardens and Inkys always end up looking more striking than traditionally pretty.

 

You also get <3 for using the best modded Skyhold PJs.

 

So before I retire for the night, I just wanted to show you guys my latest artwork. It's not Solas but Felassan is just as good, right? :whistle:

 

 

So yeah, that's how I more or less pictured Felassan to look like in my head. I waffled between giving him Dirthamen or Falon'Din's vallaslin but chose the latter at the end. xD

 

I still don't know what vallaslin Best Elf uses.  Since I'm positive it's the markings of the one who murdered him, I'm sure it's not Mythal's.  I tend to lean towards Falon'Din because he's been set as a villian (and he's also the first elven god to be mentioned in DAO if you play a Dalish Origin.  You can't even walk past the statue without Tamlen calling attention to it.  That converstation also had Tamlen comparing Falon'Din and Fen'Harel - with Falon'Din in a positive light - it makes me sure that was some brilliant foreshadowing).

 

Going to play Dragon Age Origins again soon and I'm afraid of falling for Alistair again. It feels so wrong! He's not even elvhen T_T 

Damn you Alistair and your stupid voice and stupidness!

Then I have to play DA2 after Origins ... never really connected with that game (How are there people so attached to that game?) I've romanced Fenris and Anders before, but never really loved them.

 

Alistair totally counts as elven (I like to picture my heroes and their LIs meeting up in a pub and Hawke feeling awkward because she's the only human there as Alistair is immediately claimed by the elf side).

 

Romance Fenris on the friendship path as a pro-mage apostate.  Everything will become wonderful and you will love the game.

 

Nope.  The Alistair love is real  :lol:

 

Funny thing, though; it was DA:I that rekindled my love of Alistair.  I first played Origins when I was 20, and upon replaying it five years later, I was like "OMG Alistair, you're cute but STFU ABOUT DUNCAN ALREADY."  But then DA:I came along, with ten-years-older Warden!Alistair, and I basically swooned all over my monitor.  He grows up real well!

 

^^^ So much this.


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Nope, can't do it. Twice is enough for one day.

 

Okay, so I decided to drink from the well, mostly because I didn't in my last game, but I was also curious to see how the tension would play out between Solas and Ninaeve over it. Now I'm wondering if I would have preferred letting Morrigan have it again. Does there tend to be a more popular option with those of you who have done/seen it both ways? 

 

I particularly like having Morrigan drink from the Well if Kieran's around and has Urthemiel's soul.  The story comes full circle in such a wonderful way, and that scene with Flemeth is particularly satisfying when Morrigan basically realizes that her own drive for knowledge has completely f***ed her over.  (Don't get me wrong, I ADORE Morrigan, but the poetic justice is too much to pass up :D)

 

If Kieran's not around, IMO it's more even.

 

 

Yeah, the sexism could get a little...tiresome in 1. The game is ultimately worth it, but I prefer 2.

 

That's good to know.  Can I just skip 1?  Or is it like Mass Effect where I really am better off just trying to ignore the clunky bits and completing the whole series?


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Nope, can't do it. Twice is enough for one day.

 

Okay, so I decided to drink from the well, mostly because I didn't in my last game, but I was also curious to see how the tension would play out between Solas and Ninaeve over it. Now I'm wondering if I would have preferred letting Morrigan have it again. Does there tend to be a more popular option with those of you who have done/seen it both ways? 

 

My Lavellan drank from the Well.  That was a RP choice - even if Solas dumped me over it (and the first time I played I thought he had) there is no way I could ever make a different choice.  My Lavellan isn't just a Dalish elf - she's the First of Clan Lavellan.  Her entire life has been about preserving the history of her people.  She had the arcane knowledge perk and drank from the Well knowing all the risks.  I also feel it makes more sense for Solas' dialouge afterwards.  He asks her what she's going to do with the power of the Well.

 

But it's like the Cole choice and vallaslin choice.  There's no right or wrong answer.


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That's good to know.  Can I just skip 1?  Or is it like Mass Effect where I really am better off just trying to ignore the clunky bits and completing the whole series?

I skipped 1 and watched a short summary on youtube, I didn't feel like I missed out on much. 


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The reason I don't think the red lyrium dragon was around beforehand is that Solas speculates that it's him lashing out against the gods, and making a mockery of them by twisting a dragon into their image, but with red lyrium. Maybe it wasn't corrupted beforehand. *shrug*

 

Yeah, but then where does his body surf ability come from in Legacy?  He can do it to Janeka/Larius, the dragon was nowhere to be seen, and he'd yet to acquire the orb that supposedly gives him control over the dragon.  

 

Maybe the dragon serves as a sort of signal amplifier instead of being the source of the body surf.  So for example, he can body surf to Janeka/Larius because they're RIGHT FREAKING THERE.  Bianca gave the location of the primeval thaig to a Warden who was definitely possessed by Cory, but didn't look like him.  So maybe the red lyrium dragon lets him surf greater distances and immediately change the host into his form.  It basically supercharges the ability.  Then at the end, when the dragon dies, there's a feedback thing like what happened with Saren and Sovereign that temporarily shuts down his ability to surf.

 

Or maybe I'm just reading too much into a plot hole  :P


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Hehehehe..go for it, Lavellan.  Zevran won't break your heart like soooome elves we know.

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Art!  And not just Solas! (follow the link to properly view the image.  The small version does not do it justice).

 

 

I disagree with a few of the houses, but it's pretty cool.


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"Open the gates.

And when you stand before me, 

I shall give you designs

That shall rival the greatness of heaven. 

I will make you First among the new gods,

And you will build a paradise on Earth". 

 

Sadly ironic, that this was the Architect's goal, more or less. The world was hell and isn't making peace between darkspawn and everyone else "paradise?" 


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Yeah, but then where does his body surf ability come from in Legacy?  He can do it to Janeka/Larius, the dragon was nowhere to be seen, and he'd yet to acquire the orb that supposedly gives him control over the dragon.  

 

Maybe the dragon serves as a sort of signal amplifier instead of being the source of the body surf.  So for example, he can body surf to Janeka/Larius because they're RIGHT FREAKING THERE.  Bianca gave the location of the primeval thaig to a Warden who was definitely possessed by Cory, but didn't look like him.  So maybe the red lyrium dragon lets him surf greater distances and immediately change the host into his form.  It basically supercharges the ability.  Then at the end, when the dragon dies, there's a feedback thing like what happened with Saren and Sovereign that temporarily shuts down his ability to surf.

 

Or maybe I'm just reading too much into a plot hole  :P

 

Yeah, but then where does his body surf ability come from in Legacy?  He can do it to Janeka/Larius, the dragon was nowhere to be seen, and he'd yet to acquire the orb that supposedly gives him control over the dragon.  

 

Maybe the dragon serves as a sort of signal amplifier instead of being the source of the body surf.  So for example, he can body surf to Janeka/Larius because they're RIGHT FREAKING THERE.  Bianca gave the location of the primeval thaig to a Warden who was definitely possessed by Cory, but didn't look like him.  So maybe the red lyrium dragon lets him surf greater distances and immediately change the host into his form.  It basically supercharges the ability.  Then at the end, when the dragon dies, there's a feedback thing like what happened with Saren and Sovereign that temporarily shuts down his ability to surf.

 

Or maybe I'm just reading too much into a plot hole  :P

Yeah, I think so too. Isn't there some mention of the dragon amplifying his ability?

I imagine that the Magisters and the Archdemons both have the body-surfing ability, it's just that the Magisters can even do it to ghouls like Wardens.

 

As for Witcher 1: I'm torn. Witcher 1 introduces you to Geralt and company, as well as many of the movers and shakers of the storyline, gives you your first brush-up against the Wild Hunt (Who are discussed a lot but do not appear in 2), gives you lots of hints at Geralt's past that come up again in 2, and let's you know the general themes, monsters, and kingdoms involved. Also, you get to know the other Witchers of Kaer Morhen, who again, show up later, but not in 2. There's the Full Combat Rebalance mod if you decide 1's combat is too clunky and too easy.  :lol:

But Witcher 2 is the bomb.com.  :wacko: And, while many of the characters and Geralt's search for his memory plot carry over, the main plotline of 2 and 3 are largely unrelated.

But Witcher 1 has Thaler and Eredin. :wub:   

I will admit that in 1, the Prologue and Chapter One are weak. Chapter Two is where it gets good. It's like when you are finally free to wander the galaxy in ME1. 

 

If you're going to skip 1, look up a general sum-up of Witcher lore and characters, and then the final cinematic cutscene of 1, which segues directly into 2's plot. :)


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Art!  And not just Solas! (follow the link to properly view the image.  The small version does not do it justice).

 

 

I disagree with a few of the houses, but it's pretty cool.

 

So...what House would your quizzies be in?

 

My Adaar is 100% a Gryffindor.  My Lavellan is harder.  She's sweet and loyal like a Hufflepuff, but plays the Game like a Slytherin.  Maybe I'll just compromise and say Ravenclaw.



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So...what House would your quizzies be in?

Baratheon! Oh, um, nevermind. 


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So...what House would your quizzies be in?

 

My Adaar is 100% a Gryffindor.  My Lavellan is harder.  She's sweet and loyal like a Hufflepuff, but plays the Game like a Slytherin.  Maybe I'll just compromise and say Ravenclaw.

 

 

My Lavellan a Gryffindor, my Trevelyan Templar a Gryffindor, my mages evenly split between Ravenclaw and Slytherin, and my rogues Slytherin, except for the Josephine-mancer, who's a definite Ravenclaw. (Hmm...improve the combat training of the Inquisition, or give me a lot of books to read about Chantry history, or obscure business practices of the dwarven Carta...Guys, mount up. We're going to take over a fort so I can get all of the books! Don't tell Josephine, she has this idea of a 'budget'.)

Cole is enough to fill Hufflepuff by himself. 

I myself have never scored less than 100% Ravenclaw.  :lol:


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Yeah, I think so too. Isn't there some mention of the dragon amplifying his ability?

I imagine that the Magisters and the Archdemons both have the body-surfing ability, it's just that the Magisters can even do it to ghouls like Wardens.

 

So there has to be something about mortal souls that's inimical to Archdemons, but not to magisters.  It also begs the disturbing question of WTF happens to the souls of the people that Corypheus possesses.  They don't explode in a flash of light the way the Archdemon does.  Does Cory just sort of absorb them, blob style?  Ewww.

 

 

Baratheon! Oh, um, nevermind. 

 

All hail Stannis the Mannis!


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